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Response to: Martial Arts Club Posted April 13th, 2005 in Clubs & Crews

At 4/13/05 03:53 PM, Mike- wrote: I know theres a bunch of moves that can end up putting them in a arresting position, for one: they grab with their left arm to your left arm you can reverse the grab, move your left arm to their elbow pull and push on the arm and bring them to the floor, wile they're on the floor you put your knee on their back and simply hold their arms like they were handcuffed and they lay helpless without feeling any pain, unless you did the move wrong they shouldnt feel pain.

Hmmm the karate i went to must have been completely shit. I didnt even see blackbelts do any grappling moves. They thought themselves above it, it seems.

sorry for wasting your time, but the description isnt very descriptive.

I'm not trying to diss karate, it can be as effective as any other art for most people. I just think aikido's probably the best art for the smallest man. I dont believe any other art would teach the appropriate skills for someone to be able to wrist lock someone twice their size. Again, i'm biased, i admit.


But if you want to hurt them instead, reverse the grabtake your right hand and smash down on the elbow and break it so that now it bends the wrong way lol.

Heh, aikido is ALL these horrible moves. The point being that the safe move and the nasty one are one and the same, but with different pressure applied. If somone aikido locks somone, and they try to get up they'll just move to where the opponent is putting the extra pressure on themselves, instead of trying to force the opponent.


I dont know how accurate that is only because im writing it instead of doing it so sorry for any little errors.

Heh, no worries. I'll try write one, just to see how hard it is. Actually, just look for "Irimi" by "Hiroshi Ikeda". Theres a couple of them, but one of them is hilarious.

Response to: Do Not ... Posted April 13th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/13/05 06:14 PM, LegendaryPancake wrote: so if you get a dong and just play it backword or slightly alter it is that ok?

If you play it bacwards, theres a good chance no one will notice. If you slightly alter it, they will. The reason no one will notice the backwards song is that backwards songs sound shit mostly if you leave them backwards all the way through :)

Response to: Martial Arts Club Posted April 13th, 2005 in Clubs & Crews

At 4/13/05 05:18 PM, BigLundi wrote:
probably, hmmm, i study the animals and drunken boxing and jeet kun do...would listening to music be good for any of them?

Truth be told i'm just giving my personal opinion. Discount it. :)

Response to: Do Not ... Posted April 13th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/13/05 05:32 PM, Maus wrote: the artists themselves don't neccessarily own the rights. Click the link I provided, it goes into it in a lot more detail.

Apologies, i didnt see your post. I could swear it werent there before.

Anyway, i've decided to give up the fight. Its about time i started learning to write anyway.

I was just on a buzz, and now its time to be over and for a new one to begin.

Response to: Do Not ... Posted April 13th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/13/05 02:43 PM, FDA wrote:
At 4/13/05 04:57 AM, SpamWarrior wrote:
At 4/13/05 03:11 AM, FDA wrote: Do not upload copyrighted material.... if I catch you or anyone else doing this.... you risk having your account suffer the consequences.
Well since i make remixes, and i am making the claim that it is my intellectual property, and will suffer the direct actions of the industry accordingly, can i still put my tracks up?

Or is it time i spread my wings and left newgrounds until i have some writing equipment?

Yeah yeah, its made from original artists work. I claim the remix as mine, with the original artists being given credit as they would in any respectable real life set. Since I'm not making any money, what can they really get me for?

Heh, i'm gonna regret bringing this up :)
no need to leave... but remixes are based upon the original. You do not really have the right to do the remixes as these are not official mixes and there for you are uploading someone else's work. Most audio portal sites would honestly feel the sameway if they

The work is at least partly MY intellectual property. The work i am uploading is not recognisable as any one artist.

Tell you what, i'll write to the artists them and email them, and if they do not reply, how about taking that as permission? It'd stand in a court of law as being permission through no denial. I'd be willing to try it anyway.

realised the legality. While you may thinking that the legal folks would just got after you.. you are mistaken.... they would go after who is hosting the illegal file which is NG in this situation.

Is it just me that feels like it would be negative publicity for the music industry if the industry was to try to take down a site full of legitimate artists? There would be a massive surge in hate for the industry i think, tho it is only speculation?

I believe it would cause its own death if its actions crushed young talent which could make them money in the future. So i'm pretty sure they would come after me, and i would accept the circumstances and explain my position.

I KNEW I SHOULD'VE KEPT MY FUCKING MOUTH SHUT.

Response to: midi to .wav Posted April 13th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/13/05 09:42 AM, thebigboo wrote: what is a good prog for doing this??

The ones i'm aware of are acid and cubase. In cubase you can record to midi AND manipulate it, in acid you can just manipulate it and run it through software synthesisers.

Basically both go to wav i think, but you cant write a midi track in acid.
Does that make any sense

Does anyone know any free progs with this feature, or am i being lazy and should just look at the threads Denvish put up?

Response to: Do Not ... Posted April 13th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/13/05 08:31 AM, Denvish wrote: Wow. Nice job of requoting my post (which was already quoting the rules) without actually adding anything constructive, Zendra.

SpamWarrior: I think the third rule

# If you turn out to not be the original author, you will be responsible for any repercussions.

is basically a disclaimer for NG, saying that they're not going to get involved in any legal action regarding copyright. So basically, if you get sued for using copyrighted material, NG will wash their hands of it, and you're on your own. Despite RC's comment about NO COVERS, the Video Game genre is full of remixed versions or versions played on different instruments, and I'm fairly sure that most of those tunes are copyrighted to Namco/Nintendo/Square Enix or whoever.

Hmmm well the way i see it a cover is a tribute to the original in most cases, tho i'm not sure what mxpx meant to achieve by covering barbie girl..... (shameless plug for a shitty remix)

As long as the originals are credited, i dont see the problem with covers myself, but i have no power or influence so i'll STFU :)

Response to: My tracks.. Posted April 13th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/13/05 07:50 AM, Geotrail wrote: Ok, here is a link to my Audio: www.soundclick.com/geotrail

Drop some feedback if you wanna..

You have a good sense of rythm, and that one with chirpy synth is nice. What i object to is imitation of US voices and styles, in people that arent from the US. If you're british, get fucking British, dont go fake and pose like you're an american. Even Roots Manuva sounds more British than you, and both his parents are Jamaican.

Sorry to be scathing, but hip hop should come from the soul, not a commercial image of what hip hop is.

Even GLC are more true than any US imitators, and i'm pretty sure GLC are taking the piss.

Response to: Do Not ... Posted April 13th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/13/05 07:16 AM, Zendra wrote:
Hehe, indeed. But they've made a longer story of it:

"# You are making the legal claim that it is your own original work.

MY intellectual property, THEIR sources, so i'm a little confused on that.


# Loops you made from existing copyrighted songs are not your own original work.

I dont make loops. I make whole tracks and advertise them on here so people can review them and give constructive criticism.


# If you turn out to not be the original author, you will be responsible for any repercussions.

See first point, cos i'm a little confused, as to what my role is. Maybe by asking i'm just asking for trouble, but i'd like to know.


# You are giving permission to Flash authors to use your audio, free of charge.

Fine, its not like anyone wants to use my horrible madman shit anyway. And its not like its a copyrighted track that is being played, it is something made that i put my own creativity into to make, made from copyrighted sources.


# You will remain the owner and credited author of the submission."

I credit my sources where i can fit it in, and if i havent then i i've probably made the track name out the original artists tracks, such as Massif Amusement. Then all thats needed is a google search. Oops, my bad, i didnt realise Massif was a proper word, i thought Squarepusher stole it from youth culture. Anyway, just in case, Massif Amusement is a mix of squarepusher and weeksy.

So, even thought i'm juggling with fire, poking a tiger with a pointy stick etc, do i have to get out yet?

Linux Posted April 13th, 2005 in Audio

Apologies for starting a new topic for this, but i see it as relevant, as much of the software Denvish told us about is likely to be windows or mac only.

Here is something I got told about today, i have no knowledge of it apart from that it is cheap.

No idea of the quality, but it looks nice :)

http://www.ferventsoftware.com...k=view&id=26&Itemid=56

Maybe linux isnt necessary, but its linux based. Something like you load the cd and a linux studio desktop opens up, and then when you take it out its back to normal.

Whether it works for windows or not, i forgot to ask.

Response to: Do Not ... Posted April 13th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/13/05 05:59 AM, RedCircle wrote: Covers are NOT allowed.

Punk-o-matic clips are NOT allowed.

That's pretty much it.

Apologies for seeming dumb, but i'd like you to clarify this; Am i allowed to remix, given the terms i stated, which i believe agree with the newgrounds rules?

Response to: Martial Arts Club Posted April 13th, 2005 in Clubs & Crews

At 4/12/05 10:22 PM, Mike- wrote:
Well I know a real trained Martial Artist coudl whip a boxers ass, but I dont think what im doing is good enough for me, I like boxing and karate, I didnt mean to make it seem like karate wasnt as good lol. Im gonna stick with karate though, more people I know do it and ive gotten too far to quit now.

At 4/12/05 07:18 PM, SpamWarrior wrote: If i had time and motivation i'd do some form of kung fu and or tai/chi, and aikido.
Im sure your great at it.

Heh. I was ok at it til i did it wrong and injured myself.

Thats where aikido differs from the punching and kicking arts. Its completely about defense. You cannot attack someone with actual aikido.
Yeah thats what my karate place is about, I dont know anything about aikido though.

I mean by form, there is no such thing as an attacking aikido punch.

If somone gets a hand on your wrist, you move them so they want to move in a certain direction and exploit it.
Oh yea my sensi tells us about a million things to do when someone grabs you.

How many of them end up with you controlling the opponents arm and having the chance to break it in at least one place? Aikido is about arresting people in a non damaging way, yet having the chance to break their arms in a real life, really dangerous situation ie fight versus two crackheads. No amount of punching will hurt a crackhead who is the same size or bigger than you.

What form people choose is personal. however since i have no time to make myself bigger and punch faster etc i choose the art of manipulating the enemy. I'm not saying i'm good at it, i'm not, just my personal preference.

Response to: Martial Arts Club Posted April 13th, 2005 in Clubs & Crews

At 4/12/05 07:36 PM, BigLundi wrote: i got another question, do you guys listen to music while you train? if so which one? my brother told me that if i listen to a really fast song and train to the fast beat, i get better faster, is this true?

Heh no one here would admit to screwing up, everyones too proud, myself included.
Depends what art you study regarding the music. For a hard style art, it'd be good physical training. For something thats less muscle and more timing and skill, ie tai chi and aikido something like that, learning new moves to music would only cause later confusion i reckon.

Heh nearly fell for the trap Posted April 13th, 2005 in General

Of puttin up all my capitalism stuff into one thread, which the capitalists then ignore.
This way if i bump up the old thread i will get in trouble with the mods, and if i dont they win through sheer scheming.

The evil of capitalism is a social constant, so dont expect me to give up any time soon.

Response to: Do Not ... Posted April 13th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/13/05 03:11 AM, FDA wrote: Do not upload copyrighted material.... if I catch you or anyone else doing this.... you risk having your account suffer the consequences.

Well since i make remixes, and i am making the claim that it is my intellectual property, and will suffer the direct actions of the industry accordingly, can i still put my tracks up?

Or is it time i spread my wings and left newgrounds until i have some writing equipment?

Yeah yeah, its made from original artists work. I claim the remix as mine, with the original artists being given credit as they would in any respectable real life set. Since I'm not making any money, what can they really get me for?

Heh, i'm gonna regret bringing this up :)

Response to: Martial Arts Club Posted April 12th, 2005 in Clubs & Crews

If i had time and motivation i'd do some form of kung fu and or tai/chi, and aikido.

Thats where aikido differs from the punching and kicking arts. Its completely about defense. You cannot attack someone with actual aikido.

If somone gets a hand on your wrist, you move them so they want to move in a certain direction and exploit it.

For an example go on a fileshare prog and but aikido vs karate to see the possibilities.

People think boxing training is brutal, or whatever training, they want to try doign the riot police aikido course in japan. I've only read about it and i'm scared of going. Crazy shit like an hour of press ups. You're only allowed off the mat to be sick or if your instructor says you can go. People have died of heart attacks doing the course.

Is there any other place that teaches its arts that severely? Not rhetoric, i'm just wondering how many crazy people there are in the world :)

Response to: The Capitalist Machine Posted April 12th, 2005 in Politics

At 4/11/05 05:39 AM, Haggis_Mc_Haggis wrote: What are the distinguishing elements of capitalism? I do not think the division into classes and into oppressors and oppressed will do it. People enslaved each other for about 6000 years. That is probably _not_ specifically capitalistic.

Too clarify, capitalism is about the values of "fuckgeddabout everyone else, lets just think of me and mine"

People say these values are fine, yet they despise criminal organisations that have exactly the same values, but use different methods to the average man.

The methods are not so different to the mob however.

In the past violence was used to earn obvious power. Now people go behind the scenes and pull strings. In the past the mob owned newspapers, shops, whatever.

The ruling class owns it all, the entire system. Is it that hard to believe that someone can rule it all, when even uneducated gangsters could rule sicily, and have influence in the USA?

Response to: Capitalism Vs. extreme socialism Posted April 12th, 2005 in Politics

No arguments about why people would work without the incentive of material goods?

Have i completely blown you away by saying that people would like to do jobs that require more training, for the sheer pleasure?

Or are you just enjoying your expensive goods, locked in a bubble away from a real world of pain and misery?

Response to: Martial Arts Club Posted April 12th, 2005 in Clubs & Crews

At 4/11/05 10:17 PM, dsmking wrote:

Anyone who tries to follow form in a real fight tends to get battered. Eg, if i was to try soft style aikido which is my form i'd get battered. Use your moves, but get creative ffs.

Response to: a really cheap job... Posted April 12th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/12/05 04:17 AM, -Frogs- wrote:
At 4/11/05 10:28 PM, pieoncar wrote:

Heh, I got owned. Thanks for sharing your knowledge though.

Sound to midi? Posted April 11th, 2005 in Audio

Is there such a thing as a programme which can translate a song into a complex midi piece, with different channels fir the instruments, or have i just found the the ultimate question for remixing?

Response to: a really cheap job... Posted April 11th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/11/05 10:49 AM, SpamWarrior wrote:

Seriously regarding the 5 dollars, after its been exchanged for pound sterling its only worth a pack of 10 cigarrettes here, or about 8 mars bars. Whilst it would be nice, the practice at production is what i'm really after.

And i dont smoke anymore or eat that much chocolate anyway :)

Response to: a really cheap job... Posted April 11th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/11/05 10:15 AM, TheShrike wrote: Sending it via email might not work. Most services impose a 10 meg limit on attachments. I'd suggest posting it to the web somewhere.

Where tho? File sharing services have too much stigma cos of piracy for respectable people to be associated with them.

Actually, i think a msypace account could do it. Go on myspace.com, click music and get then artist signup. I dont think theres a limit on the meg per track, if you upload it to there i can easily download it.

Response to: The Capitalist Machine Posted April 11th, 2005 in Politics

At 4/11/05 05:39 AM, Haggis_Mc_Haggis wrote: What are the distinguishing elements of capitalism? I do not think the division into classes and into oppressors and oppressed will do it. People enslaved each other for about 6000 years. That is probably _not_ specifically capitalistic.

It is, just because you think capitalism and insane human greed has only been around since the industrial revolution....

The Romans - Capitalists, you point out slavery that this has being going on for thousands of years.

If people who go seeking "opportunity" (Taking others lands and resources because they can) in order to increase their own gain, that is capitalism.

Just because it isnt pleasant doesnt make it not capitalism

Sure, you can try the bullshit about the african tribes selling each other to the white man.

These were people of simple values being taught the capitalist system.

They would have only sold the slaves if people would've bought the slaves

People say i shuld study economics and STFU? There you have it, supply and demand.

Response to: Why are most college profs. left? Posted April 11th, 2005 in Politics

At 4/11/05 02:51 AM, JusticeofSarcasm wrote:
At 4/11/05 02:43 AM, darknezz1 wrote: Don't be a flaming pile of shit, if you can help it.
The point you amde was ignorant, and you came off like an asshole with the way you said it. Right-wing opinons are just as valid as left-wing. You are portraying an unneccisariy and untrue sterotype. If I siad all people from Wisconsin make cheese for a living would that be ignorant, woudl I be an asshole or dumbass for saying it? Classfying all republicans as southern red-necks with guns is stupid. There are dems who are front he south, John kerry hunts. Sure alot of people fromt he south support the red, but they arent all red-necks, just like alld ems are arent pot smoking hippies.

Would it be fair to say all rednecks are right wing?

Republicans continually promote the values of "fuck everyone else, all i need to care about is me and mine"

Selfish Bastards, the lot of them

Response to: Sony Sound Forge. Posted April 11th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/11/05 04:22 AM, Denvish wrote: Oh, I should probably add that I'm still using SF4.5h, from back when it was still owned by Sonic Foundry, rather than Sony. The menus might have changed somewhat since then, but I'm guessing the features are still there.

OK, thank you, you truly are a nice geezer. I'll be looking into the newer versions, which i bet are better and even more complex :S.

Response to: a really cheap job... Posted April 11th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/11/05 04:29 AM, fli wrote: It's just about 25 megs as a mp3, but I can easily send you an invite to gmail. You get a 1000 free megs. You don't need to keep gmail, just use it this once to download the file-- and to send it back to me...

Got an email so that I can send you an invite?

I've got a 250 meg inbox with hotmail, so feel free to send it. Seriously i have no idea about a paypal account, and i just want a good excuse to play with my toys. If thats still a problem send me an invite.

Response to: A culture of life? Posted April 11th, 2005 in Politics

At 4/11/05 12:14 AM, Rooster349 wrote: If we paid reparations for every casualty of every war that we've been in, we'd be 500 times as bankrupt as we already are. Demanding reparations for an act of war would be even more ridiculous than the US asking the terrorists to pay us back the 2 trillion dollars in damages on September 11th.

Sell some fucking nukes then, go on, sell some WMD to dictators, so you can start a war years later on the grounds that they are dangerous. Then go in, subjugate the people, enforce your culture upon them and steal the oil.

America bankrupt? BULL SHIT MOFO. It has nukes as part of its military power, it needs nothing else. Everyone else fears you, and you like it. Bully.

Sony Sound Forge. Posted April 11th, 2005 in Audio

What can you do to sound files with this programme?

All i can do with soundforge is trim files down to fractions of second. All very nice, but i get the feeling theres sooo much more. Ie i heard rumour you can reverse sounds on it, but no one ever said how and i cant work it out.

Response to: Best Quality Posted April 11th, 2005 in Audio

At 4/10/05 08:23 PM, commander221 wrote: ummm... are you asking what kind of file to use, or the size. mp3 is the best for me. and the size of mp3 is larger than wav. but it also depends on how big the file is. there is no telling how big it will be. maybe i dont understand your question. maybe you are talking in terms of 56k, 128k, 256k, 300k. well obviously the bigger the better in this case. well good luck with whatever your trying to do.

I have NEVER heard of an mp3 being larger than a wav. Am i entirely ignorant?

The comment based on sample rate is mostly correct.