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Well, what is happening? Any being used, anyone still making them? I have a loop, and i dont know if to upload as is or make the full track out of it that i have in mind.

did a google search using rubber duck vst and not much came up thats even related, let alone on it. I'll look again some other time. Got enough toys at the mo :)

Nah britpop/indie mate. Acoustic is when theres no electrical instruments playing, just normal ones mic'ed up, or not mic'd, but no electric instruments, just old style instruments.

At 8/10/05 04:38 AM, -idle- wrote:

At 8/10/05 01:53 AM, SpamWarrior wrote: Maybe NG thinks it cant match the competition, maybe it just doesnt want to, but i reckon it could, and i think an NG label would be SICK, and if they sorted out the mass 0 voting problems they would have an EASY way of deciding who would sell and who wouldnt.

Thats a good point, but as long as there is a voting system OF ANY KIND, people will complain. You have to understand, when you put music on a site for public listening and voting, the score will always annoy you. As someone has mentioned already in this thread, the people who vote 0 aren't all just dicks who want to lower your score and can't appreciate good music. Talented musicians are doing it too.

Yes, and they are dicks who are trying to ensure they beat the competition. I'm sure some things deserve 0's for sure, and an NG label would only make the mess worse, but a system where you can only affect the points when giving a review would help the problem to some extent.

At 8/10/05 03:45 AM, SWiTCH_ wrote: By "real bands", I meant groups with multiple members. We aren't "bands".
And I don't think they are better than us. In fact, the music in the audio portal is a lot more creative and diverse than any of those other sites. Which is exactly why I don't want NG to become one of those sites. We're just individuals making our own music without trying to fit into a certain type or genre, because frankly there's no one to impress. :)

I think you have made one of the best points in this thread. More and more proffessionals are submitting to the Flash Portal everyday (due to it's increased exposure), but is that necessarily a good thing for the litle people like us. Most people submit to the site for fun, and to learn a few things. Making the AP more mainstream would slowly push these people out; it's about giving people a go, not trying to have the best audio on the web.

Not really, as we could learn from even better n bigger musicians than we have now. Imitation is a great way of learning things, and dont tell me that anyone who does is an uncreative pussy, everyone copys their favourite artists/genres to some extent...

One of the things i have always loved about the AP is the huge variety of music here. I have found so many strange and classic gems in my time, that simply wouldn't be found on other sites. We should always keep this in mind. The changes suggestsed should be about making the portal better and easier to use for the artists, because I think the quality level is fine as is.

Quality of what? Musicianship? Sure its good for a site thats mainly based on 15 - 20 year olds, but many of the older n more experienced musicians wont be here for us to learn from....

The quality/mainstream argument is a bit silly really, as to beat mainstream you have to be even more creative or skilled, this can only lead to better music. Also, would rock musicians be seriously upset if a current commercial rock band came here to chill n chat, give out some advice about recording techniques and how it works, for example? Not sayin it would, just if it did.
And as for creativity, trust me, for some of the obscure shit you can find on myspace and other sites like the acid pro site shows that true creativity is not deadin these places, even tho they have top "professionals" like metallica signed up, techno isnt shunned as the are different niches...

and sorry EckHart, I know this isn't what the topic is about at all. >_>

Yeah, we went a little off topic; like that never happens on forums ; )

I've gone wildly off on one, stop me if i make any sense.

At 8/9/05 06:31 PM, SWiTCH_ wrote: What? I'm not afraid that bands are going to replace me.

"real bands would come in and take our places"

You are insulting yourselves and others implying that we dont have "real bands" here, insinuatin that we are all lesser mortals just because this isnt garageband or whatever... Talent is everywhere, and "real bands" would inspire us to work harder, or realise that we have no talent.

:The audio portal takes a back-seat to the flash portal as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, it does. Does that mean it should?

Newgrounds is a flash site. I post my songs here only because I post flash here as well. All I'm saying is that there are plenty of places for serious musicians to post there music and get recognized, and newgrounds isn't (and shouldn't be) one of them.

Whyever the hell not? You tellin me monkeybullman, bounc3 and pandora arent "serious" musicians? There are many others, but they are the ones that spring to mind. (hey rucklo if you're readin this, you're good, i just dont know if you WANT to be a musician as a profession)

Maybe NG thinks it cant match the competition, maybe it just doesnt want to, but i reckon it could, and i think an NG label would be SICK, and if they sorted out the mass 0 voting problems they would have an EASY way of deciding who would sell and who wouldnt.

At 8/9/05 09:40 PM, NDP wrote: Believe or not, audio isnt important in flash. They dont need us but we need them so why shouldnt we be treated like we are.. coming from me,you should take that seriously because i am a very enthusiast pianist/composer and i know that a good thing shouldnt come cheap.

Silent movies went out a loooooooooooooooooooooong time ago. I've seen maybe 3 of some quality on NG in the looooooooooooooooooooooong time i've been visiting this site.

Another point.

How many top bands DEPEND on a flash movie? Musicians dont depend of flash artists for shit all.

Sure, free site. Free hosting, free to receive abuse from the mindless....

WHAT HAVE I TOLD YOU ABOUT EXPOSING YOURSELF IN PUBLIC!? DOWN BOY DOWN!

He's italian, make of that what you will :P

At 8/9/05 04:19 PM, SWiTCH_ wrote: If the audio portal gets any bigger, it will just become another garageband/purevolume. Real bands will come in and replace all of us, and it would take away from the point of this site (the flash). I'm glad Tom and co. aren't working to make the audio portal bigger, 'cause it would split the site into two parts. The audio portal is just here so that people can have royalty free music to use in their flash movies. Nothing more. If you want to get popular from your music I would try a different site (like garageband or purvolume).
In my opinion. >_>

Arent you the guy who makes good punk on his own?

Would you really fear the competition, seriously? Would you not buzz off having even better artists to compete with?

Could you not find an internet punk band, or help find band people in your area?

Anyone who fears being "replaced by proper bands" is just a pussy, adapt or die, which one would it be for you?

And as for splittin it into two sites... whats the problem with that? It'd still be newgrounds, and newgrounds will always have the edge over other flash sites...

Can you cut/copy n paste files in magix? If so do that...

IN

They're missing out on a potential goldmine, imagine if NG creamed off the best artists and sold their tracks...

You dont like loops? In what context?

Cos songs are chains of loops....

Since hes tellin us they arent goin to do anythin, i'm regardin that as a message for the better musicians to fuck off to another site and stop bad mouthin this one.

5'ing your own tracks is NOT a bad idea, as those checking audio for use in their loops are more likely to check the front pages, since they'll have no understanding of how the system works, or even care that more honest and sometimes better works can be found in the very last pages....

That is f'in marvellous, it helps clear my head up regarding it, i thought i was gonna go insane. I should have an AP loop out tomorrow, but now i'm goin bed. Cheers mate.

That is f'in marvellous, it helps clear my head up regarding it, i thought i was gonna go insane. I should have an AP loop out tomorrow, but now i'm goin bed. Cheers mate.

Another tactic is to find a sample you like in a commercial track, nick it, and try copying it, this time by using free samples mashed together. You'll have to be careful of flanging, and it wont be a nice clean sound, but maybe thats the same as the sound you're copying :)

Lol thanks for your time, but that was absolutely no use :)

I need to know soonish cos i'm workin on a track and i think the polyphony is part of the key to why it sounds wrong to my ears, but i'm not sure :s

Any other takers? Yes, i've read the f'in manual, and it does not give any detail.

Since my qustion got so eloquently ignored in the reason thread, i'll ask in this one instead.

On the subtractor synth, what does polyphony do? I know it means more than one voice, but is it volume, harmonising octaves, chords, what? Just what the hell does it do?

Rubberduck? Is this for real? And is it free?

To person two above this one - they wont if you get them legally, but if you do backup your hard drive anyway, as the more progs you get the more they conflict with each other, if you know more than i do about sortin device conflicts please help

To person one above - can you get korgs as soft synths? No way! i might have to save for one then...

What the hell is polyphony? What does it do?

I understand the literal meaning - more than one voice, but i need some context.

To be fair, there is nothing wrong with nicking drums n synth from loops long as you chop it up.

I mean come on, the biggest selling artists "coughs RAP coughs" nick entire samples from artists that came before them, so its a bit silly to tell others not to.

www.looperman.com
www.audio360.com

I think. If you dont like those ones do what i did and try www.justfuckinggoogleit.com

Well its best for everyone to figure their own best methods, just realise that if the volume is going over the red numbers on the master tracks the audio will render sounding awful, and is most likely damaging your speakers too.

I'd be lyin if i said i knew everything, so just ask me about things you're unsure about after you've found some tutorials, tho i'm sure theres something helpful in the help menu....

Lol cheers ac for makin me out to be such a nice guy.

To the original poster, what do you want to know?

Ah well in that case i'll join in *waves a fist*

If it was date stamped i'd have no issue. Is this a sign that people want to try change the system, or a sign that people are just whinging again, thus making us even more of victims?

All this is like arguin over whether an oboes better than a guitar....

If i make it i'll still be here, keepin my eye out for new artists for my own company, but i wont have that for a long time.... we shall see.