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Response to: mixposure Posted August 30th, 2005 in Audio

myspace.com is good too, 4 tracks max, free, you can decide whether people can d/l or not. Only a select few get my myspace account details tho :)

Response to: The Audio Forum Lounge Posted August 30th, 2005 in Audio

Weasels can fly if you stoke the boiler enough. Also the tarantula is renowned for its cake eating abilities, and its way of living in goo.

The hand axe passed its driving test, and it walked home from the shops.

Response to: Post Your Lyrics Posted August 21st, 2005 in Audio

For some reason i think chrona's track should be made into a HAPPY black metal track, if its possible :S

Response to: Limp Bizkit: New Old Sound? Posted August 20th, 2005 in Audio

Fred Durst is beyond irritatin. They oughta replace him with Eminem. That'd be interestin.

Response to: Sound card Posted August 20th, 2005 in Audio

how much you willing to learn, pay for, and what do you want to do with it?

http://www.tweakhead.._the_home_studio.htm

Response to: Post Your Lyrics Posted August 19th, 2005 in Audio

Yeah goatfukers on the point there.

Just randomly, those that are into making pop music or "alt rock" or something similarly soft, read some shakespeare, i think it'll help.

And for all the hard rock and techno heads, fuck it, who needs to scream in iambic pentameter anyway :P

Nah seriously tho, everyone read shakespeare. If it helps, great, and if not, HA BLOODY HA on you.

Well, dont read it if you dont understand english.

Yes redundant point.

No, not high, just ecstatic that my uni'll have me.

Response to: What band or artist Posted August 19th, 2005 in Audio

The Prodigy. Nuff said. Techno metal may have been around before their mish mash of sound, but i havent heard of it. Techno-Junglist-Metal. Yesai.

Response to: good mixing prog.! Posted August 18th, 2005 in Audio

Acid Pro 5. Mix audio and midi.

Response to: Music downloads and reviews. Posted August 15th, 2005 in Audio

Face it mate, if you dont make trance dnb or techno then you're a target. Speak out against 0 voters and crews, like i do, and you're a target. Complain to the ng staff some of whom are unscrupulous and in the crews, about 0 voters, and you become a target. If its bitin you that much mate then its time to move on, and go to somewhere where the owners actually give a shit about audio.

Redcircle says yeah yeah, it'll be better in the future, but they're too busy right now.

Wade himself says, nothing doing for a LONG time.

I dont think there'll be anything done for a long time, and any improvements will be marginal at best. Certainly nothing stopping anonymous 0 voting, who'd like to deny the wanker crews some influence? Not the NG staff, thats for certain... they'd say invasion of privacy, yeah, cos its such a serious matter if someone if 0 voting someone that they're going to cry if they're exposed... BS all the way.

Merry monday everyone.

Response to: My new song. Posted August 14th, 2005 in Audio

At 8/14/05 06:26 PM, -API- wrote:
At 8/14/05 06:18 PM, djAPI wrote: lol. I do appreciate that you guys continue to vote down on that song.
Hey man what the fuck stop advertising your shit.

Jesus, guys. Stop arguing. The song was amazing anyway, too bad you guys won't listen to it. So what if the guy is an asshole.

LOL

Api, most of us didnt downrate your tracks, yes i know its you, i like your music, and i dont really care for this post one way or another, i'm too tired to care about attitude. Its probably some clocks or ss type people saw it and thought, who can we victimise today.

Response to: Can Midi's Convert To Wav's? Posted August 14th, 2005 in Audio

If you want them to sound realistic/good you'll need fruity loops or acid pro.

They are kinda expensive and it will take some effort, but i dont know of any basic programmes

Response to: Whats the best music maker for... Posted August 14th, 2005 in Audio

Yeah, cos you, intenseman, with 0 submissions has a better grasp on things than psybot.

But yeah, check denvishes post, guide to audio - samplers n sequencers i think its called.

Response to: Hertz to BPM Posted August 13th, 2005 in Audio

Yep, some notes sound better at some tempos, most of its personal choice but i've had people advise me when a tracks been too slow, i've sped it up just a little and its all suddenly glued together. I still dont get this whole idea tho, ie maybe you can write a tune using a root note at the tempo, then the correct multiples of that for the different notes? I dont know... :S

Response to: Drummers?? Anyone? Posted August 13th, 2005 in Audio

Got a cheap headset mic, a kit, plus some software progs. I like grunge, punk, metal, techno, some trance, some experimental, also like jazz.

I'm up for it, just a matter of how we record n mix the tracks together, but we'll see about that.

I'm in, is anyone else?

Response to: Petition! Posted August 13th, 2005 in Audio

At 8/13/05 05:01 AM, -idle- wrote:
At 8/12/05 08:34 AM, SpamWarrior wrote: If you could see who voted, and it was only audio artists who could vote, it would stop genre morons 0'ing whole other genres for a laugh as the 0's would soon be returned to them... It would help stop people 0'ing others over personal grudges or political differences. Would in short, take all personal bullshit out of reviewing and leave a more relevant objective view of the MUSIC and not the MUSICIAN.
Please read the following lines very carefully:

Seeing the username of the voter is an invasion of privacy, and it's never going to happen. Ever. I personally wouldn't want the artist to see what score I was giving his work. What if, for example, I wanted to give someone a 0, or a 1, because their audio was absolute shit. OH WAIT I CANT, for fear of the artist in question seeing my low score, and going and giving the same score to all my audio. That is just one scenario which would occur in this crazy, bizzaro world of seeing who cast each individual vote.

Whereas, now, people who make shitty audio can 0 others who make good audio anyway, and thats all well and good? Bollocks to this opinion, NG is corrupt, and run with the crews. This is what this is all about. NG doesnt want to expose how much of a covert influence they have over it, instead of admitting that some are in the crews, and point the crews in a direction. they keep the anonymous 0 voting.

And as for the breach of privacy, since this is a PRIVATELY run site anyway, that PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR, who would take something this PETTY seriously in a court of law?

"Your honor, i shat on Bounc3's work, and NG let him know who did it. Can you please send them to prison please"

Even in lawsuit happy, responsibility-free america, that would get LAUGHED out of court, if it even made it to court at all.

As for 0'in shitty audio, who needs to 0 shit audio, you just dont vote, and 5 the ones that are far better, same overall result.

So, back to the main point. NG charts are OWNED by the crews, the crews do this with NG's blessing, which is why they cannot be bothered revealing the identitys of voters.


Not only that, but the logistics of implementing that system would be a nightmare. If voting isn't annonymous, then it's pretty pointless if you ask me. Something simialr to the reviews in the Flash portal would be handy however, where each track would have a voting score, and a review score (yes, I know it already has an average of the reviews, but maybe put this in a place more obvious to the eye).

Why the fuck is voting pointless if its not anonymous? My only conclusion, see point about flagrant corruption above...


Yeah, and we provide a resource to the flash musicians? Not much chance i know, but if we all threatened to piss off and give them a bad rep, maybe they'd do something about it.
Hahaha, yeah, I could see that working. Go for it.

It WOULD be the most likely scenario to get them to fix it, but they probably still wouldnt.


BTW, just out of interest, have you ever run your own site? You seem to be a fan of putting private run businesses into the same category as the government...

er, what?

Logic - you want visitors to a certain thing, you make people who are regulars want to stay so that the visitors see people that want to stay..., nothing to do with the government or whatever.

I can TELL already that you're a conservative, and a tight-ringed one at that...

Response to: How Do I Close My Account? Posted August 13th, 2005 in Audio

To close your account go to general, post i'm leaving messages, lots of them, and you'll be banned. Thats as near as you can get to gettin it closed.

Response to: DJ Tiesto Posted August 12th, 2005 in Audio

At 7/31/05 05:18 PM, Whirlguy wrote:
At 7/31/05 11:42 AM, hofi8 wrote: Im personaly am a big fan of DJ tiesto, do you gouys know any websites where i could download (for free) traffic and Audigo for strings? I want a website not from kazza or programs that are alike.
Why not buy a cd, if everyone did that we'd get rid of the shit is bananas and crazy frog..

I FUCKING HATE THE CRAZY FROG. I'D ACTUALLY PAY TO USE NG COS IT'D MEAN THEY WOULDNT HAVE TO USE THAT GOD DAMN, MOTHERFUCKING, SHIT EXCUSE FOR MUSIC.

Response to: Breackore Posted August 12th, 2005 in Audio

Woah chavs do mostly sound the same everywhere, only with a bit of regional accent. Devvo'd stick out round my way cos hes a yorkshire chav, and they're all mancs round here, but you couldnt tell until he opened his mouth. Safe video.

Response to: Petition! Posted August 12th, 2005 in Audio

At 8/12/05 01:36 AM, -idle- wrote:
At 8/11/05 01:22 PM, SpamWarrior wrote: Yeah, statin facts really implies intention...
It was how he stated those supposed facts. I'm not an idiot, I read his posts, and I decided to take his comments the way I saw fit. Do you really care so much to quote it? Context is often lost on the internet, stop being so petty.

It is the entire problem. Why say its for loops, yet give us more than twice the space we need for it? People do come here to here new tracks, and i like the idea of having around 4 mins of audio to play with, ITS GOOD PRACTICE.
BECAUSE, one of the major complaints I hear from people is that there ISN'T enough space for longer tracks. Many people complain the the file size limit is too small. The way around this is to reduce the quality, and I have heard plently of full tracks in the AP that don't breach the filesize limit. I couldn't imagine them ever changing the filesize limit, for two reasons:

1. The filesize for Flash is 5 meg, and it would be silly to suggest that the audio should have a larger limit. The 4 meg limit in the AP is more than satisfactory for it's purpose.

2. There would be no point changing it to a lower limit, like you alluded to in your post. That would be effort for nothing. Sure you don't need 4 megs for loops, but does this really matter? They were obviously giving a bit extra to play with.

Now, never once was I saying people don't come here to submit full tracks. Many people do. But that isn't going to affect a change of the limits. LEARN TO LESSON YOUR FILESIZE. Simple.

I'd be bothered by your shouting, but its like a gnat pissing in the wind a hundred miles away.


What is the flash theme of the site? do you really think that you have one absolute correct view on what is good and bad music for flash? Ie, it should all be techno, or all be rock, or whatever? Anything can go, if you dont see that then shut your mouth and use your brain...
WTF are you talking about? I said its a FLASH site, as in it's orientated towards FLASH (you know, the MACROMEDIA program). I'm going to explain it for you in laymens terms now, because you obviously aren't getting it one bit.

"There is lots of music I make which I would never submit to NG, simply because it doesn't fit the Flash theme of the site" Clearly you dont understand your own posts....


The point of the Audio Portal is to provide music for Flash animators, royalty free. Therefore, for something to be OF USE to a Flash animator, there are certain restrictions which need to be put in place. That is why the system works the way it does. This site is NOT an audio site. People submitting audio are providing a resource for Flash animators.

So?


To up the quality of the music made for the site? I mean, another point is, it was originally for loops, yet they give us nearly 4 meg to make something, a whole track can be fitted into that. If it was to be loop only, make it loop only, dont have it as one or the other. If it was to be loop only, whilst i wouldnt like it i'd at least know where i stand.
Why change something that is fine? You don't have to submit loops, you can submit full tracks. YOU CAN SUBMIT ANY AUDIO WHICH IS IN THE FILESIZE LIMIT. Would you personally like to go through and change all the programming to implement this pointless change?

Nah, i dont do programming, so i have no idea of how much of a task it would be. Why submit full tracks? You're only gonna get hit by emo faggy 0 voters and have your efforts stepped on. It'd be less of a problem if we could see who they were....


Just because it was originally designed for loops, this doesn't mean you HAVE to submit loops. FFS.

Really? Clearly i'm some kind of stickler for conformity and following the rules...


I mean come on now, there are artists that could be professional that i know of, that cannot be arsed putting in full effort in to the tracks they put here, simply due to losing faith. This is because of anonymous 0 voting,
Ok, imagine you couldn't vote 0. Just 1 - 5. And only audio artists themselves could vote. And you could see a list of who voted.

THERE WOULD STILL BE PEOPLE WITH LOW SCORES, AND THERE WOULD STILL BE PEOPLE WITH HIGH SCORES.

Yes? You got the wrong end of the stick here, you think i'm some kind of hippy with a problem with ranking? Even if i was. so what?

If you could see who voted, and it was only audio artists who could vote, it would stop genre morons 0'ing whole other genres for a laugh as the 0's would soon be returned to them... It would help stop people 0'ing others over personal grudges or political differences. Would in short, take all personal bullshit out of reviewing and leave a more relevant objective view of the MUSIC and not the MUSICIAN.


Why would anyone lose faith from looking at a number. This is what happens when you let people vote, no matter what system is in place.

Ok, how about you spend some time puttin some tracks up, and then me and about 20 other people go and 0 all your work. you go from 4 to 0.5 in a day, on the day its submitted. If that didnt make you angry or irritated in the slightest, you should be a policeman.


Sure, music for flash. People use commercial music in flash, so why shouldnt we try getting better artists to come to the audio portal? The only people that whine are those that would be OWNED by the new artists coming in, and cannot face the competition...
Who cares about getting better artists in? How many times does it have to be said that this isn't an audio site.

Funny, cos its got all the ingredients of one. A place where your music can be listened to, a chart based on a scoring system, and a community of artists who arent boring and like everyone else. Minus the voting system, this could be Myspace.


They have already said they wont, we need a revolution, i mean nearly ALL the musicians that submit music to cry out for change.
You can't have a revolution on privately owned site, doofus. The owners provide a valuable resource, FREE OF CHARGE.

Yeah, and we provide a resource to the flash musicians? Not much chance i know, but if we all threatened to piss off and give them a bad rep, maybe they'd do something about it.


If we had to pay a membership fee, then it would be slightly more plausable.
Response to: Petition! Posted August 11th, 2005 in Audio

At 8/11/05 11:51 AM, -idle- wrote:
At 8/10/05 07:33 PM, TedJohnston wrote: who said i wasn't interested in trying to help? oh wait...no one did, you assumed it.
Well, in your post you were acting like there is no point voicing changes, because "the Fulps don't care". If this isn't your standing, then I apologise.

Yeah, statin facts really implies intention...


yes, those changes are all good and great...but until the Fulps decide that the Audio Portal is more than just "music for flashes," everything will generally remain the same, no matter how many changes are implemented. you see what i'm saying? the problem isn't, "things need to be fixed", the problem is wrong attitudes.
I see what you are saying, but I think you are taking it to the extreme. The Fulp's can still keep the AP as "music for flashes", while implementng some good changes to help the artists submittong the work. As I have said many times before, this shouldn't be about revolution, everyone knows the AP will be "music for flashes" for quite some time. I don't think the idea behind the Audio portal has anything to do with the problem.

It is the entire problem. Why say its for loops, yet give us more than twice the space we need for it? People do come here to here new tracks, and i like the idea of having around 4 mins of audio to play with, ITS GOOD PRACTICE.


again...if i didn't care, i wouldn't write about it, or be a part of it at all for that matter, now would i? i'm just trying to point out what the real problem is; it's not the voting system, it's not the graphical interface, it's not that enough people don't know about it, it's not --- . the problem is the Audio Portal's purpose on Newgrounds.
I think you are totally wrong here. The problems which need to be addressed have been mentioned many times, and once again, they have nothing to do with the AP being flash music orientated. NG is a flash site, everyone knows this, and it's obvious the Audio sections are designed to complement this, not operate as stand alone thing. The audio submitted is supposed to be for the use of Flash artists. I suggest some of you read up on the history of the AP; it was designed for loops and short tracks, not huge, professional tracks. You have to remember the theme of the site. There is lots of music I make which I would never submit to NG, simply because it doesn't fit the Flash theme of the site.

What is the flash theme of the site? do you really think that you have one absolute correct view on what is good and bad music for flash? Ie, it should all be techno, or all be rock, or whatever? Anything can go, if you dont see that then shut your mouth and use your brain...


This isn't a music site, it's a flash site. Why do people want to change this?

To up the quality of the music made for the site? I mean, another point is, it was originally for loops, yet they give us nearly 4 meg to make something, a whole track can be fitted into that. If it was to be loop only, make it loop only, dont have it as one or the other. If it was to be loop only, whilst i wouldnt like it i'd at least know where i stand.

I mean come on now, there are artists that could be professional that i know of, that cannot be arsed putting in full effort in to the tracks they put here, simply due to losing faith. This is because of anonymous 0 voting,

Sure, music for flash. People use commercial music in flash, so why shouldnt we try getting better artists to come to the audio portal? The only people that whine are those that would be OWNED by the new artists coming in, and cannot face the competition...


sorry if i sound like an ass -idle-, i'm just a cynic; don't take it personal. now don't be like jarrydn and take it the wrong way. well, good luck (i suppose...). cheers an g'day people.
Thats ok, I can see what you are saying, it just annoys me when people use things like this as an excuse to not do anything about it. The admins aren't going to go and change something if their is no demand for it. Thats where we come in...

They have already said they wont, we need a revolution, i mean nearly ALL the musicians that submit music to cry out for change.

Response to: The Reason Thread Posted August 11th, 2005 in Audio

NVM, solved it, but have another problem now. In the matrix sequencer i had notes at the end of a pattern tied to the first. Seems a bit stupid for it to work like that on the FIRST notes tho...

Now i gotta find another way to rewrite it. Grrrr.

Response to: The Reason Thread Posted August 11th, 2005 in Audio

WHAT THE HELL IS REASON DOING TO MY BRAIN.

I got a melody, and part of it is 4 1/4 notes in a row. Polyphony is on 8. I have ONE matrix analogy sequencer connected, yet the first pair of notes sound different to the second pair. They are all the same, - - - - , tiednormal, tiednormal. I get some high harmonics or something on the first notes AND I'M BLOODY SICK OF IT.

I change polyphony down to 1 and its killed a lot of my track, but i can fix that. I'm just well irritated and fucking confused since, the synth is meant to be monophonic, using the particular sequencer i'm using, so i've racked up a lot of synths to deal with different parts of melody lines.

So, where am i going wrong, or is my version of reason fucked, and this is yet another ERROR IN THE PROGRAMMING that hasnt yet been discussed?

Response to: paragonX9 Posted August 10th, 2005 in Audio

Ah right, well yes, paragon is good, but hes not the only good artist here, he may own dnb, i dont know, but there are other good artists, paragon does not own the entire audio portal. This is why i get mad, cos people come in going paragon pwns, the guy is hardly ever here and everyone still loves him. Yes, part jealousy i admit, but i think its a bit of a cobb for everyone too.

Response to: paragonX9 Posted August 10th, 2005 in Audio

At 8/10/05 05:30 PM, StarStylerz wrote: If you only knew the work everyone (i hope) puts into their music, or try to make a super duper awesomness track urself i doubt u would keep yelling than.

and the entire main point of that jumble of sentences is? Lay off the e's, they're bad for you...

Response to: fruity loops problem with buying Posted August 10th, 2005 in Audio

Did you get it off the official site, or off ebay or what?

Response to: What happened to loops for the AP? Posted August 10th, 2005 in Audio

I said i'd spit on you, not on your grave, silly. You just want to haunt my ass.

Response to: paragonX9 Posted August 10th, 2005 in Audio

Agreed, we should either have a paragon thread sticky up, or have some kind of filter that deletes any post that mentions his name. Sure, great artist. BUT HE'S NOT THE ONLY ONE. NOW GO AWAY.

Response to: Audio Software: Software Synths Posted August 10th, 2005 in Audio

*adds to list of things to do when in a dry spell*

cheers, seriously.

Response to: I Can Get You Anything You Need!!! Posted August 10th, 2005 in Audio

Whilst you're at it i want sylvia saint, whole alive n happy, tied to a bed, willing to serve. Not likely tho :)

Response to: What happened to loops for the AP? Posted August 10th, 2005 in Audio

Yes, AC n chronamut get what i was on about. I'm still gonna spit on you anyway AC, but only cos i lubs you.

Well stuff it, i'll make a loop and add it to the pile, tho i get the feelin my loop is gonna be too mellow (ie boring) to the majority of the NG demographic (ie younger teenagers)