At 10/9/08 05:52 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:
At 10/9/08 05:36 PM, SouthAsian wrote:
These beheadings by the Muslim Chechens took place years and years ago. The video I just linked to in my last post is from the mid 90's. It was the Russian Neo-Nazis that retaliated by beheading some immigrant in Russia.
I'm just saying the Chechens and Russians have been fighting even durng the 90's with renewed vigorus clashes since around 2000.It's common for russian nationalists to go after the Muslim immigrants and the Muslims to be using acts of sabotage and assasniation on Russian authority in their land.Theres probably dozens moe vidoes throught the years. It's like it doesnt show when the fighting started.Its just been going on.
Nobody is defending Vlad the Assailer here, but last time I checked, the Russian soldiers didn't meticulously behead captured Georgians.
I know.I just wanted to emphasize Russias attempts in crushing local opposiiton in the region and reinforcing it's presence in an imperialist style in the Caucasus when it comes to Russian authority in securing places like Chechnya, Dagestan, and Georiga, and the Caucasus in general.
Sure, but there is ZERO defense for what the Chechens did. Zero.
I think that from my persepctive chechens had every right to resist the invasion of russia in the 90's and to this very day of trying to escape the russian efforts of "assimilating" them like russia has demonstrated it intends to do with South Ossetia and Abkhazia of Georgia.
Quit fucking defending these people just because they're your Muslim brothers. It's pathetic.
I don't side with mujhadieen as you can clearly see what they had done to Afghanistan.I sympathise for the Dagestani migrants who happen to be Muslim and Chechens who are caught in the middle of Russias stubborn resolve to see it become the authoritarian power in the area through becoming Chechnyas new master like in the Cold War. Also the Russian nationalists who treat the Caucasus as some place to vent their hatred of the people living there because they aren't Slavs.
I am also guessing elements of the Mujhaideen that fought Russia in Chechnya are still around that vicinty and now they are operating in the Caucasus.They have sought revenge for spilled Muslim blood and they are only reacting the way you probably would in defense of your reigion and nation.
It's absolutely mind boggling that you're rationalizing their actions.
They're desperate.Unfourtunately the all mighty chechen military is uhh... out of commission.So raiding towns to capture russians who would otherwise be the ones holding the guns at them is what they are left for in terms of showing defiance .
There's a difference between DEFENDING your religion and your country, and getting REVENGE by torturing, mutilating, and barbarically killing captured soldiers and videotaping it for propaganda.
I absoulutely agree.But people behave abnormal when all they see in the midst of foreign military excursions by foregin powers(Russia) in your homeland(Chechnya) and racist murderous ideology(Neo Nazis) against migrants(Dagestanis) and they reside in the fact that to show their contempt they have to use such brutal dehumanzing tactics.