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Response to: Jon Stewart for President!!! Posted September 26th, 2005 in Politics

Haha...even though its never going to happen, I would actually vote for him if he ran.

Response to: P.e.t.a Posted September 25th, 2005 in Politics

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

Read and enjoy...

Response to: Why are schools Liberal? Posted September 25th, 2005 in Politics

Because most liberal thoughts inspire open-mindedness, respect, equality, and learning, rather than regressive thinking.

Response to: Why I'm glad Hurrican Katrina hit Posted September 25th, 2005 in Politics

At 9/25/05 06:39 PM, Soviet_Guy wrote:
Hopefully you'll think about what you just said now in 20 years when you're going to be stuck in a dead end job and I'll be well off, close to the dreams that I've always strived for, of course you won't know me, because what kind of an idiot seeking political power would tell people his name on a forum where he's an Anti-American.

I'm already on the way to my dreams actually, I'm doing steady commission work with my art and doing a joint piece with a good friend of mine, as well as getting a book published in the near future at 19 years old. If I keep up at this rate, by the time I'm in my mid-40s I should be able to retire with a reliable amount of money and a lesiurely lifestyle.

Response to: Communism: Good or Bad? Posted September 25th, 2005 in Politics

As has been said already...

Good on paper, bad in practice.

Response to: Why I'm glad Hurrican Katrina hit Posted September 25th, 2005 in Politics

At 9/25/05 02:48 AM, Soviet_Guy wrote: You wouldn't be pissed off at me if you weren't American.

I'm not pissed at you and I'm American. You're so fucking stupid you're more comedy than anything else. Its like watching a retard try to fight off a Grizzly bear when you try to argue your points. Honestly, keep going, you're so far gone I don't even see why people argue with you, I'm just grateful that most people who think like you are disappearing in massive numbers...I mean, I actually don't even need to say anything else besides, your way of thinking is basically a dead school of thought that will hopefully and most likely be gone by my grandchildren's generation.

...absolutely hilarious...you're like this angry little harmless poodle that barks a lot and gets kicked by the neighbors.

Response to: anti-matter, don't see the point. Posted September 25th, 2005 in Politics

At 9/23/05 05:54 PM, bilgin wrote: It's pointless research like that that makes us poor.

Who is poor? Poor by some technicality perhaps, but we have more than enough ability to conduct business and research, as well as allocate funds properly in the US.

Response to: Anti-War Protest Posted September 25th, 2005 in Politics

http://www.usatoday...02-WMD-indepth_x.htm

Link above ends argument and provides proof that the government mislead the US to enter the war, therefore had no credible reason to do so, if substantial truths cannot be provided to the people, the war is not worthy of being waged. Read and stop bickering.

Now, onto what this thread was actually about.

I'm so incredibly happy to see people finally standing up and showing they have an opinion on this pointless waste of US funds and lives. Faux news has been cracking me up though. So Faux News says "Watch in after this commercial to see the wave of anti-war protestors, descending on our nation's capital". Hahaha...like they're fucking terrorists or something; DESCENDING on our nation's capital. Oooohhh nooo...the anti-war protestors are descending, like vultures, everyone watch out as they try to convince us to be peaceful! Not fucking peaceful! Oh god, not that! Get the Marines in here, fire at will, fire at will! They're going to instill peace and love into our people!

Its so incredibly relieving to finally see my fellow citizens are not cowards and don't agree with Bush just because they feel its their obligation. It brings a warm smile to my face.

Response to: Would this be ethical? Posted September 22nd, 2005 in Politics

I'm thinking we may want to try out making it illegal for them to purchase it first...

Response to: Inacurate History Text Books Posted September 19th, 2005 in Politics

I'm not sure what history book you read...but the ones I read in school, had an entire section on the persecution of the Indians, along with pictures of smallpox victims, and in depth explanations about what happened.

And this was in Oklahoma...the Bible belt...the heart of darkness persay, of the white Christian Republican movement...

And so...your argument has no merit as is...not to say I don't agree that history books are biased...but the points you brought up were blatantly untrue...

Response to: Video games Posted September 18th, 2005 in Politics

At 9/18/05 03:31 AM, The_Exterminator666 wrote:
Man, it's not so difficult to have a social life at the same time u play video games. And what do u mean a social life, going out every saturday? That can be as pathetic as playing video games all saturday...

I'm not sure what you're going on about here...I play video games and have a very functional social life, and know plenty of people the same...its called balance...

By the way, I would love to tell u something which happened once, on America. A child, who played Final Fantasy a Lot, once asked for his parents to buy a FF sword. Some time later, one night, the child got up, and got the sword, and killed both parents, with Final Fantasy style. Well? What do u think about this? Was it the Game's fault to his madness? Or he had already a mental problem and used that as a way to "express" himself?

I am willing to bet a good deal, that event you just explained never actually happened. But even if it did happen. I started collecting swords at at 15 years old...I thought they were intriguing. At absolutely no point in my entire life did I ever even think of taking one of the swords and actually hurting somebody with it. If this child did...it was because he was psychotic and/or badly brought up. I really don't understand how people hear these situations (if it ever occured in the first place...) then think to themselves "aww...poor kid got brainwashed..."...it should be as simple as comparing yourselves to them. See, I compare myself, a normal, level-headed, and intelligent individual, to those who listen to movies on TV or video games and kill people...and its pretty quickly I realize, video games, music, and movies don't control my mind, they don't control anyone's mind, everybody is responsible for their own actions.

Response to: Video games Posted September 17th, 2005 in Politics

Video games...as of yet, have not transferred fat into anyone's lazy gut or had subliminal messages to keep them playing. People play video games because they are fun...its their fault if they're too lazy to get a work out or talk to society.

Response to: Leader of the free world asks this? Posted September 17th, 2005 in Politics

Hahaha..."Oh no wee-wee!"

Yeah, this is defenitely over the line, the man needs to piss, why do I care? I mean, I may hate him...but I really couldn't give a shit less if he needs to go pee-pee.

Response to: Why do other countries hate america Posted September 16th, 2005 in Politics

Because they listen to silly little stereotypes and fail to notice how painfully similar everything about their people and country is to ours...

We're all generally pretty similar...I get along with people from every country pretty well. I have to take the annoying jabs at America in stride because most are too blind to listen to to reason as it is...but other than their ignorance, I get along with people everywhere pretty equally. I've made good friends and gotten along with a good deal of foreign exchange students in real life and talked to a lot of people over the internet...and all in all, we're all pretty much the same...I mean, we're all unique in our own ways...but none of those ways seem to be dominant to any culture.

Well...besides the English...I will admit...they are oddly unique as a people. No one else on Earth deals with politics quite like they do. Everybody seems to want to hear only the good things and be told what to do, whereas the English always want to hear the worst of things right off the bat and just deal with it...but otherwise, everybody chooses bad leaders, everybody is angry and ignorant towards other countries, and we're all just humans.

So all in all, they hate America because they don't know much about it, they've been told they should, or they don't know how to direct their indignation towards the leaders and not the people or the country itsself. I actually heard a friend of mine from Australia say she would "never visit America even on holiday" because of how crappy it was here...when in all reality, its one of the nicest countries on Earth, with some of the best-kept cities, some of the best crime-rates, some of the best schooling, and some of the most peaceful living conditions around...so obviously a good deal have been pathetically uninformed about the US. I enjoy living in this country a lot and most of the exchange students I used to talk to, said they really enjoyed it here too. (And this was in Oklahoma...which is one of the most boring, shitty places in the country)

As it is...there is no good answer anyone can give for why they hate 'America'...

They could probably give plenty about why they hate Bush or the administration, or certain people...and for good reason...but anyone who thinks America as a whole is worthy of being hated, are ignorant and naive.

Response to: Where that Osama be at Posted September 14th, 2005 in Politics

Sipping lemonade with George Bush at his ranch, I would imagine...

Response to: Soda In Schools Posted September 14th, 2005 in Politics

While I don't agree with banning soda in the slightest, mostly because it helps students stay awake in classes they might otherwise fall asleep in.

I will say, I stopped drinking all carbonated drinks about two months ago...and have since, shed literally 20 pounds after replacing it with purely water, juice, and milk and otherwise, did not change my diet even in the slightest, and am still losing weight. So I suppose if they're trying to make kids not quite as fat, it could be a good idea...but who are they to decide that? If a kid wants be a butterball, let him be...

Response to: everyone is a goth. everyone. Posted September 13th, 2005 in Politics

At 9/13/05 01:34 AM, _FLAGG wrote: My parents always told me they'd give me enough rope to be myself, but not enough to hang myself with.
I think those are words of wisdom.

Those really are fantastic words of wisdom, I've got to agree. In fact, thank you, I think I'll always remember that phrase.

Response to: everyone is a goth. everyone. Posted September 12th, 2005 in Politics

Haha...this is classic. I'm apparently a hardcore goth...and any minute now, I will begin sacrificing virgins to my dark god, Satan.

Response to: Please explain something to me. Posted September 12th, 2005 in Politics

At 9/12/05 09:32 PM, Frozenserpent wrote: Well, those electron, protons, stuff are made of quarks... then we get into quantum physics, then there is relativity... which is has mathematic backgrounds.

As knowledgable as you do seem on physics and atomic structure, you have apparently forgotten, that a quark defies the laws of conventional physics and relativity. In fact, the only way a quark and its functions can be quantified and made legitemate is through the alternate and not quite as accepted, String Theory (Unless you fully accept the more abstract extremes of Quantum Physics). And if String Theory were correct; the way you say you perceive the world in the rest of this (Which I have left out just for sake of brevity...but I think you can draw which conclusions I'm addressing)...would actually be incorrect.


We don't understand much about the brain... and how can we? It is incredibly complex. In fact, most people see cells as magical things of life... different from say a rock. The only difference, to me, is that these protons, neutrons, and electrons are arranged differently.

The problem in this view is. You are confessing a view of the solidarity of facts in all things, as if we can understand it all, yet preface it with the claim "How can we (understand the human brain)?"...if what you are saying, and there is nothing we cannot figure out, why is it, despite our elementary, but adequate knowledge of the makeup of the brain...we can find nothing that constitutes the human consciousness as a whole? AKA, what is doing the observing? What is your and my personality consistant of? We can't answer this...because apparently, whatever it is, does not exist as a part of the brain, such as the Hipocampus and the Hypothalamus, we have done extensive research, and can find nothing that explains with undeniable fact, the human race's brain functions as a whole...or even the discoveries in psychology for that matter.

Now also note, we have solid ideas of the makeup of stars, the percentages of what elements make them, their life spans, how they have come to be, how they function, and how they will end, as well as their relations to other astral bodies and abstract forces that we have never directly witnessed. We have extensive theories tracing the functions of supermassive blackholes and wormholes...how the depths of space are expanding and in what shape it could possibly be. We have theories on the very genesis of all life, prim-eval atoms, and dark matter, things that could very well have never existed. But as a race, we have quantified them with almost undoubtable accuracy.

Yet...despite all these things; we cannot figure out the human brain, this piece of computing grey mass in our skulls, we don't even really know where to start...we have elementary knowledge of how it functions on a simplistic level, we can draw simple conclusions by relating parts of the brain and their functions in relation to eachother. But as it is, it is quite possibly, from what we can see...unexplainable in some ways...because it functions in a unique and unexplainable way to all stimuli, which as you, as a human know...has no equal in nature. Does it say nothing of how special humanity is, that this non-descript piece of meat inside our skulls has no equal to be found in the entirety of the universe as we know it?

Now see, this is not the root of my philisophical or spiritual beliefs...I would never anchor my spirituality in something as trivial as an ever-changing science, but as you, your entire life may have seen science as a way to disprove spirituality, I have seen it my entire life, as a way to explain the beauty in life.

Response to: Sept 11th, What really happend? Posted September 12th, 2005 in Politics

The biggest problems behind these arguments are...they always lead back to blaming Bush for 9/11...

And in some roundabout way, it has been said he might have been...but only in a way that many would consider overstated. I have a problem demonizing Bush to the degree that he somehow let these attacks happen on his own soil. It just seems like a bit much to me.

I mean, I'm open to the extreme possibilities this might be true, nothing too extreme can really happen in today's world, I just highly doubt these things happened as explained.

Response to: Why I'm glad Hurrican Katrina hit Posted September 12th, 2005 in Politics

At 9/12/05 08:33 PM, bcdemon wrote:
At 9/12/05 01:21 PM, punisher19848 wrote: Not really: the only nations providing any significant aid are Kuwait and the Arab Peninsula states. The reason they are sending aid is because we protect thier interests in the region in exchange for oil. In short: if we fall, they fall.
LMAO, if you fall, they sell oil to China.

"Keep up appearances"? Nah, were not like americans, we don't worry about our own self glorification. How many other countries do you know of that actually brag about the aid they give to countries? BTW, the Vancouver S&R team, who were the first search and rescue team in St. Barnard parish certainly weren't worried about "keeping up appearances", they were to busy trying to save your countrymen, when your country wouldn't.

And here lies a post by a man who is completely out of touch with reality.

First off, perhaps you haven't been informed yet, but if the US falls, your country and every other country on Earth is going to feel an enormous and unmistakable shockwave in their economy and way of life, imagine the economy as a nice big-top tent...now imagine the enormous support that is directly in the middle, falling out. That would be the world economy if the US fell. So yes, they may try to sell oil to China...but if you think that's going to be an "Oh well, we've got China, no big deal!" kind of thing, you obviously don't understand just how profitable the oil trade is, when concerning America, without the oil trade as it is now, the world economy would change drastically (For the better or the worse is up for grabs...there are convincing arguments for both sides...but most side towards worse), and everyone would feel enormous shockwaves.

And yes, every country is worried about keeping up their public appearance, its part of politics, it has been through history, it always will be. There is no politician that is going to be stupid enough not to try to make themselves look good in situations that may not warrant it. Its part of the game. Yes...even Canada.

Response to: The bible in my school Posted September 12th, 2005 in Politics

Non-Fiction...well, would it be more offensive if it were said to be Non-Fiction, or if it were put in the Fiction section? Saying it is automatically all untrue and fabricated? Which imposes on the person's religion more honestly?

In reality, the Bible, despite what most neighsayers like to say, holds an incredible amount of historical significance, and does cover a great many events which really did happen, and other than the Bible are not recorded anywhere else. (Yes, events that have been proven to happen...none of that please)...one will notice quite quickly when actually reading the Bible, it is more like a history book, laden with explanations of a higher power, than it is vise versa, as is perceived.

However, I think putting religous texts in Fiction or Non-Fiction is probably dangerous, most book stores I've seen have sections devoted just to Religion, which I think is obviously the way to go.

Response to: Fourth Anniversary of 9/11 Posted September 12th, 2005 in Politics

At 9/12/05 08:08 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:
I will not begrudge someone for not caring about 9/11 as much as an American. Just like I dont want someone holding my callousness towards other events like the tsunami. I know it was bad and all, but I simply do not care as much about those people as much. I relate to Americans first and the world second. As does everyone with their own country.

See...I'm quite different, I felt no less shock or sadness for the bombings in England and Spain, than I did for 9/11. They all affected me the same.

Response to: Fourth Anniversary of 9/11 Posted September 12th, 2005 in Politics

At 9/12/05 07:38 PM, Grandy wrote:
At 9/12/05 06:49 PM, Solthiel wrote: and those were your brothers, sisters, mothers, and fathers dying in those twin towers, no matter who you are or where you are in the world.
Yes, those were my brother and sisters in that tower, but I never met them, and they weren't there when I broke my leg, or walked my first steps, so I don't really know who they are. Its the same as walking to a cemetary and crying for every dead that you don't know, I bet you don't do that.

Somebody was asking you to cry for the dead?

I think its sad that you don't understand the difference between respecting the dead and crying for them.

I've actually seen it said over and over in this thread, and I really don't know why it isn't sinking in. Nobody wants you to sympathize or cry for anyone, they want you to respect these people who died far before their time.

In contrast, would you walk into a graveyard full of war casualties and piss on their graves?

Response to: Fourth Anniversary of 9/11 Posted September 12th, 2005 in Politics

I can't believe people are still fighting over this. And I can't believe people are still trying to defend the viewpoint of "Well, it wasn't my country, so I don't care"...

What exactly is a country? Its a nice imaginary line with human beings taking claim over it. I'm afraid the people that died in that tower are the same as anybody else. How the hell does distance make a person no longer worth being mourned for?

"Oh sorry, you aren't in my imaginary lines, you aren't worth being mourned for anymore" is basically what you are saying with "Sorry, I just don't care because it didn't happen in my country"

Ridiculous people, falling under the same callous and apathetic mindsets of the stereotypical Americans you are so angry at. After talking to too many people to count from other countries...you know one thing I've noticed?

They aren't any different from Americans, they just think they are; I can tell you this because I live in this country afterall, and I can tell you, people from other countries are all the same, they pass the time the same, they think the same, they vote the same, they think the same. I really don't care what language you speak or what color your skin is, we're all humans here, and those were your brothers, sisters, mothers, and fathers dying in those twin towers, no matter who you are or where you are in the world.

Response to: Get rid of sex-ed Posted September 12th, 2005 in Politics

At 9/1/05 07:02 PM, Buckdich wrote: How about we just get rid of sex all together, its really nasty anyway. With the recent developments of cloning technology within the last decade, I am sure we can construct a genetically perfect people without having to engage in the exchange of disease laden bodily fluids.

Haha...I think this post may be the definition of dry sarcasm...hahaha

Response to: Think you can run america? Posted September 11th, 2005 in Politics

Give me a moment...so let me take in this argument. Because one criticizes something, they have to be able to do better?...hmm...wow, so what you are saying is, when we see a man that cannot do his job, unless we are willing and able to replace him, we are to follow him blindly into his absurd mascarades and listen to all of his lies?

And no, its not fashionable...its realistic. Fashionable would mean people are doing it because its a trend that has nothing to back it up...but you see, that would be a blatant lie. In fact, there are so many reasons why one should dislike that monkey, that there is a 45 page thread in this very forum, outlining his moronic exploits and lies and he is being lambasted by the cowardly news media itsself for his shortfalls as a President on the news as we speak.

Whereas you may be quite confident following a man who is obviously not very bright (Yes...I say in full confidence I am more intelligent that George Walker Bush, as well as the majority of people I know...), who lies to, steals from, and cheats his own citizens, in order to kill tens of thousands of innocents and sacrifice the lives of thousands of Americans for an unsure motive; there are those of us who are not. Not surprisingly, I and a good deal of intelligent informed individuals, are among these people.

Now I on the other hand will NOT claim that I could run this country better than Bush, I have not been raised and taught the ways of statecraft and politics in-depth enough...but I am 100% sure there are an overwhelming amount of politicians who could. Bush is a disgrace to this country for an incredible list of reasons...one of the minor ones among them being; he is such a terrible speaker, I, the average American citizen am stereotyped as stupid, because he sets such an example. If I were to have a man in presidency who I much disliked, I would much rather him not have the vocabulary of a twelve year old.

Bush is possibly the worst President since Nixon, the only difference is, apathetic, uninformed individuals in our society are too afraid to speak out against him. Bush's name, whether many would like to admit it or not, will go down in history with a myriad of very bad occurences, includng the Downing Street Memo, Curveball, Hurricane Katrina, and Karl Rove; and mostly likely, a short list of good occurences, chief among them, his speech at the twin towers after 9/11, nothing much better.

I do not support Bush, and I am overwhelmingly happy to see that others are joining in to the growing crowd and noticing his pathetic downfalls as a leader.

Response to: Fourth Anniversary of 9/11 Posted September 11th, 2005 in Politics

This thread is a living testament, that morons will troll any tradgedy they want. I love how serious this was, and how at the time it happened, everybody was sitting there going "Holy shit, I can't believe this is happening"...but immature little teenagers, four years later now try to say things like "Oh, well America deserved it"...

Its called human deaths, kids. Those were real people in those buildings, not actors or video game characters, those were our mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, daughters, and sons...there is a difference between realistic pessimism, and apathy. Saying "Oh well, shit happens..." is apathy.

You know, of course that happens on several threads in these forums, its just a fact of life on a site like this, that brings in so many different types of people. But its great to see, that within the first page, all trolls have been put in their place, so I find no need to go any further.

In any occasion, I mourn the lossof those in 9/11 and all of the other terrorist bombings, as well as those in Spain and several other countries, truly the man who did this should have been caught by now, he should have been tried by a court and made to see what futility an attack of such cowardice would surely bring him. Unfortunately, he has not been, and there is very little chance he will be. Osama Bin Laden is not to be heard of in the flawed agenda of the Bush administration...as it is showing itsself to do many times over (Some more recent failures notably more obvious; Katrina?), cannot and seemingly will not, address and solve any problem directly or correctly.

But I think its unfair to turn this into a political thread, so I'm done. I think it should be instead, somewhere for people to offer honest condolences to the dead in the twin towers and the families who have to live with these deaths every day.

Response to: Read this article Posted September 10th, 2005 in Politics

Yeah...I think she's going in the right direction. But it cracks me up how she'll be on a really good rant and I'm totally with her and really proud of her, and then all at once she'll say something absurd like "Women would never war"...like she thinks women aren't supporting the war in Iraq or didn't vote for Bush or something?...yowza, ever heard of Anne Coulter, miss Powter? Or perhaps, every woman from the conservative party who goes to speak on TV? (Well I'm sure they're controlled by the 'corporate boys', as she puts it) Yeah, she's a really intelligent, open-minded, interesting individual, but I'm afraid feminism will always be a bit too radical for me, being a levelheaded individual. Its just a bit too extreme.

I'll just never understand the silly feminist propaganda, I guess its useful as an means to an end...but not as an ends to the mean...meaning...it will liberate some people from the problem, but it doesn't get rid of the original problem, and at the same time creates more by being extremist. But yeah, I really do respect that she's trying to get women to think and discover and become something, its a crying shame that more women don't stand up and try to expand themselves.

Response to: Newgrounds: Politics Posted September 7th, 2005 in Politics

I am neither democrat nor republican. I think both sides have things skewed, and both sides have some things correct. I fit under no political umbrella and have no desire to. However, my views on a few different tests, have been most closely related to people like Mohatma Ghandi and the Dalai Lama. So I suppose...the view of Tibetan-Buddhist Theocracy, might be...close? Anyway. I just don't like the idea that anybody agrees with either party unconditionally.