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At 1/18/06 07:40 PM, 31SlipKnoTonKpilS13 wrote: the problem:
Isralies are looking for a common ground to settle and make peace. The palistinians will stop at nothing to just push the Isralies into the sea and kill every last man, woman, and child. Welcome to genocide.

actually its mostly Palestinian extremist groups who want to do that, many have accepted Israel as their neighbour (or realized its military is simply to powerful to be able to do anything against) and Israel doesn't have a very good history of respect of Palestinian human rights.

i think this was done before...or i just saw the article somewhere

and Israeli settlers didn't violate the original land deals, or the six days war when Israel stole land from Egypt, Syria and Jordan.

i think you've missed the point of this. the government is not goin to "bust in" or "invade the Hague" they have worked it into their legal system that american troops cannot be tried by an international court on war crimes charges, that only the US (or other countries they've approved) could try them. i find this to be absolutley ludicrous that the US is a major part of the UN (the Hague is the UN's international court for war crimes etc.) but has made itself unaccountable to any other court but the US's. the US is a member of the international community and its soldiers or others should be able to be tried by the an international jury if attrocities are commited, this has basically made the US untouchable, if anything happens how can we be assured that a US jury has fairly tried one of its own since the actions might have been taken as part of US interests?

well at the very least they should allow the inspectors in so as theres no suspicion

the question isn't about Israel's right to exist or how it was set up (which is somewhat questionable, though legal, so lets not get into it, theres other posts for that) but has the creation of Isreal created more hate towards Jews by such people as the Palestinians. as you said that they are "safe from prejudiced Arabs"(maybe not exact quote) but i get the impression that these prejudiced Arabs are a result of the creation of a Jewish state which has removed land from them or other Arabs making them seak revenge by hating Jews around the world, which is ridiculous since most have very little to do with Israel.

those crazy neo-nazis (yes i know this is a pathetic attempt to keep it going)

another thing about Israeli nukes is that they were acquired illegally and in secret

actually kinda fits in with the rest almost

and most people have some respect for the Brits, i thinks its better that they don't start mentioning them

could we mock white-supremacists?

not sure if it should be, anyone want to attempt to breathe new life back into it?

hey arauthor's garbage was removed, i just noticed, yay!

actually i have a variant to your original question that i believe will be easier for us to find an answer to; can god create a breast (single breast, attached or no is your choice) so large that he himself cannot fondle?

and why is this post attracting so many white-supremacists, dammit

he posted and made no statement they weren't his ideas, usually submitting something without saying its from somewhere and not saying its yours is still considered plagerism, but thats not the point of this

At 1/17/06 03:16 PM, Magicthegamer666 wrote: Are we actually listening to an entire nation denying the holocaust? WTF!

i doubt that the entire nation actually denies it

i changed my tune? and its more because we end up having to hear so much about how the US is going to save the world

Ya you guys are right

ah, i understand a little better.

but i'm starting to wonder, is Jew fuck actually insulting...i mean it doesn't seem to be very coherent orsensical

ah alright, forgive my jumping to conclusions

At 1/17/06 02:22 PM, Nighthawk24us2002 wrote: Damn, and I was going to go at him some more, but I will respect your wishes and keep a lid on it.

fuck it, this thread has failed, i'm not listening to what i said, go at him

unless white supremesist became its own race it isn't racial discrimination and if you were referring to me as a "Jew Fuck!@" you are slightly mistaken since i am 100% white (of italian origin). so thankyou for giving us the "evidence" but this is the wrong thread to post it on, if you want you can make a new one if you did that i wouldn't give a shit.

i think hes become too much bother for the government so they removed him from the media and presto no one cares anymore and they don't have to give a shit

aye i figured, was just trying to stop this entire thing from turning into "U NAZI PRICK!!11" and so that it keeps going the way it was

At 1/16/06 06:11 PM, FAB0L0US wrote:

At 1/11/06 07:55 PM, shi_huangdi wrote: and easier access to North America?

Mind explaning this?

and as far as Israel is concerned, it too has nuclear weapons and could be just as likely to launch a nuke at Iran or other muslim/Arabic countries as Iran is to do the opposite

Has it happened yet? Has Israel ever implied it wants to kill all Arabs like many of the Arabic countries around them have? No? Case closed, shut the fuck up.

well first off if you knew just a tiny bit about world geography you would realize North Korea is closer to the continental US than Iran, just a quick shot over the pacific and there ya go.
secondley the word likely is meant to indicate the possibility of something happening, so no it hasn't happened but it very well can.
as far as threats are concerned Iran makes threats Israel actually fights. when ever Israel is attacked it tends to strike back with unneccessary force and very little regard for the well being of Palestinians caught in the cross-fire. i think this over-zealous "self-defence" attitude of Israel speaks louder than the words of the Iranian president.
p.s. don't tell me to shut the fuck up, arrogant fool

this thread was not meant as an objection to Israel or the Jews but simply to question the amount of good a Jewish state had done for them and possibly how it affected others. though i find some actions taken by Israel deplorable i do not encourage hate towards it, the Jews or any other cultural group for that matter.
how it lead into and what it has to do with Arauthator's comments i don't know but i'm hoping its possible to ignore them as they detract from the actual purpose of this thread. if there are any elements from his posts that can be used bring them up and discard the rest of it.

Arauthator i'm questioning what all that had to do with this

At 1/16/06 09:29 AM, mackid wrote: Zionism, and by extention, the founding of israel, has resulted in the creation of a Jewish state that respects human rights and serves as an example to the entire middle east. It has stayed vigilant against terror and its enemies when surrounded on all sides and the only escape being the mediterranian(sp?).

In my opinion, Zionism is not very far from Judaism itself. We respect the rights of others, but demand that we have our own homeland.

Israel: an Example for the Entire Middle-East
it might respect the rights of its citizens but it seems to have little respect for those of the Palestinians. when i started this thread i thought that we should focus on how zionism affected the Jews, but now because of the arrogant and ignorant statements of some i feel that they should be enlightened about their "perfect state" so as they will not come and post random garbage because they think they know everything.