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At 12/3/10 02:43 PM, The-General-Public wrote: Provided the literature isn't biased toward a particular point-of-view

what if one carries less risks than another option; that would be a bias. would we have to censor this risk in order to avoid bias?

At 12/1/10 11:04 PM, Memorize wrote: I'm just wondering why so many pro-choice organizations and individuals crusade against anything that would reduce abortion numbers.

Even if when it's something as simple as showing an ultra-sound.

i read about a few states having a 24 hour waiting period with provided literature on alternatives. that seemed to be a fairly responsible way of addressing the issue of minimizing abortions; i'm sure most people don't know their options (hell, i have no idea how one would do in such a situation) prior to the situation, and the clinic is likely the first stop on their unwanted pregnancy journey. not sure about the reasons allowing for an abortion in those states though.

i wonder; do adoption centres and other such agencies provide literature on abortion... you know, just so you're aware of the options?

At 12/2/10 06:02 PM, Imperator wrote: In light of the balls-tighteningly awesome news from today's NASA press release, add the model of life to the list of "debunked" science myths. :)

you have to link, man; i was excited at the prospect of new NASA findings, but what it is was better then expected.

i'm assuming i found the right one?

At 12/2/10 02:45 PM, Musician wrote: The problem is, and has been, that Israel is unwilling to support any resolution to the conflict that includes reasonable provisions for the Palestinians.

i figured the whole "nothing but the destruction of Israel will ensure peace" was another fairly considerable reason for the lack of negotiations.

Hamas saying they'll actually be democratic (for a little bit at least)?

interesting? impressive? lies?

At 12/1/10 05:10 PM, Memorize wrote: For a group of people who claim to want "as few abortions as possible', could you give me a good reason on how an individual could have a legitimate claim to several abortions?

are records kept for abortions and the individuals receiving it?
and speaking of abortions; i heard Canada has no real legislation on it other than "its legal; have fun."

i should probably go do some research instead of bringing hearsay into a discussion like this. to wiki!

At 12/1/10 04:41 AM, Memorize wrote: ...and drugs (even hard drugs)...

woo! party!!!
so anyone want to confirm this thread is topically different from other religious threads? or was it, but it fell into the internet's evil trap?
anything i can weigh in on or do you guys have it under control?

i don't remember from the other NK attacks, but SK seems to be mighty pissed and is promising to not give a fuck about restraint and appeasement next time the North tries any of this shit.

news, or not really?

At 11/30/10 08:47 PM, Ravariel wrote: Link to full-size.

those round earthers want us to believe we wouldn't be able to see the remnants of the lunar landings from earth but then they put out stuff like this showing the space station and ship and expect us not to see how theres no contradiction in seeing it orbit the sun in such detail!

i mean come on; they didn't even bother scaling it to their imagined sizes!

At 11/30/10 09:59 AM, Ravariel wrote: For my first trick, I shall show you that the Big Bang was not, in fact, the beginning of the universe, and that we have found evidence for events that happened PRIOR. If these observations hold up it may be the single biggest discovery in cosmology since the background radiation itself.

huh, interesting. although last time i heard about gravitational waves being searched for, it was to prove something else about the Big Bang (thanks for confusing me Discovery channel!).

In less theoretical news, we may have re-gained a 9th planet for our solar system, a distant planet larger than Jupiter that is chucking snowballs at the inner solar system.

while we're on the topic of Oort clouds and the outer solar system; Eris, the planet that helped demote Pluto, may in fact be smaller than Pluto rather than its larger cousin. (not that this will promote either of them from dwarf-panets but the more you don't know!)

Also, speaking of stars, recent observations have basically tossed out our ideas of how large a star needs to be to create a black hole when it goes supernova. We now basically have zero clue how marginal-mass black holes actually form.

damned!

All science is wrong. All science was more wrong yesterday and will be less wrong tomorrow. That does not mean that unscientific ideas are right.

well there is always the possibility it will be more wrong tomorrow, but hopefully it'll reright itself sooner or later.

Link to the full-size pic. <-- You'll wanna click that.

imma go rol... i mean study, and then have me a look at that.

At 11/29/10 11:09 PM, Korriken wrote: and putting someone in a cage isn't barbaric?

could be; imprisonment is a pretty new concept, and we like to think our fancy, modern solutions to crime are without fault.
the problem with simple "which is better" comparisons is that while we can look at the pros and cons for each, as well as which is more effective, it tends to limit how we look at things, i.e. we're pointing out how neither is particularly enlightened or without harm to the individual (although that could be a negative for some), yet we don't seem interested in seeking other solutions to the issue.

restorative justice would be an example of another means of dealing with crime, though i have no idea how effective it is against reoffense [can't imagine it being anymore so than incarceration]

At 11/29/10 10:38 PM, Korriken wrote: multiply that by about 20. that's what being hit a whip feels like. tell me how many people you know would go do some kind of petty crime if that's what's gonna happen to them.

cool, but making a joke about jail rape doesn't mean i was attempting to represent whipping/caning as a less than barbaric practice.

nor is getting sexually assaulted for that matter... but we aren't exactly discussing that in this thread...
although how common that is in the prisons housing low-risk inmates might be relevant

At 11/29/10 09:06 AM, Korriken wrote: even a hardened criminal would be squealing like a stuck pig when the leather hits his back a few times.

even those who put up with the non-consentual butt-sex when they get sent to jail, and who still return to a life of crime afterwards? you'd think the double wammy of confinement and aggressive cell mates would make people realise crime doesn't pay, its just a pain in the butt. *zing!*

false dichotomies are fun!

At 11/28/10 12:06 AM, RightWingGamer wrote:

At 11/28/10 12:00 AM, TheRedRocks wrote: It should be a crime to lie on T.V.... But then again Fox news wouldn't be on air....

Didn't MSNBC make the same fucking mistake?

can we all agree thats its sad to be one of the few English language networks falling for it?

can war break-out if war never really ended?

someone special came back to the forum today but i played nice so you don't have to banstick me today.
happy birfdayz!

i crashing your mod party@

At 11/27/10 12:58 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: A "host" you say?
......Two human beings reproducing and somehow a type of "parasite" is made?
Yep, things like this conclude that thr world is fucked with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire.

roflcopterzzzz; i agree with shaggy.
that is all.

no, i'm completely serious: its a terrible misuse of biological terminology.

i can't forget where i saw it but another conspiracy claimed to have found its "smoking gun" and compared it to the Zapruder film in its importance in "substantiating" the Kennedy conspiracy.
i don't see why this film is getting such a sudden revival in proving the conspiracy's point despite the fact it is neither new nor left unaddressed. made me do much facepalming.

At 11/24/10 08:24 AM, satanbrain wrote: The ottoman empire conquered this land, the arabs who angered by the selling of lands only rented those lands.

ah i see, they just moved to their summer homes and were perfectly comfortable.

At 11/23/10 01:59 AM, ToddM wrote: What about his friend Jesse Ventura? They act the same way execpt he has a TV show.

"i was a SEAL, thus i know how the government works!" seems to be how he goes about 'proving' his theories.
that and getting very angrywith, and intimdating people smaller than he is [i.e. everyone].

am i the only one who gets angry when i see things like UFO and ghost (and conspiracies of course) shows on the discovery and history channel?

At 11/20/10 04:00 PM, Proteas wrote: Oh, and by the way? CAIR (the Council on American-Islamic Relations) has issued a travel advisory; Muslim women can be exempt from TSA Patdown and backscatter x-ray security screenings if they object to them, opting for alternative measures. Gotta love poltical correctness and the sensitivity it brings.

looking at the article it sounds like they may be one of the groups doing the most to influence the TSA into toning down. they cite pilot and rights concerns as well as Islamic concerns; and the impression that this is a double standard based on PC (which i'm not saying it isn't) will likely do wonders to help us reconsider having our junk jingled.

At 11/19/10 07:33 PM, Warforger wrote: The acceptance of who was Roman changed, since Rome is and was an Italian state that constantly expanded it had no choice but to accept the new people or else they wouldn't have enough military forces to control their territories.

i was referring more to the limited rights and numerous abuses of people living under Roman authority (and who were genetically "Roman" [of the peninsula and Latium more specifically]), but thats relevant too seeing as who was Jewish, or Israelite, hasn't been singular or completley united since the time of Abraham.

At 11/19/10 06:55 AM, satanbrain wrote: a simple question, what happened to the jews under roman reign?

what happened to the "Romans" under the Romans?

At 11/18/10 10:10 AM, satanbrain wrote: Jews share more DNA resemblance with jews than with any other nation. that proves that jews are a nation, and were for the last 3000 years.

black Jews! they do share a genetic lineage from Israel, but to say they are more similar to ancient Israelites than the populations of Ethiopia might be stretching it (shit; what if they're actually the original Jews? what if they are more genetically related within the Beta Israel community than other Jewish communities among and between themselves?).
not that common ancestry doesn't have a place in defining nationhood, but very few modern (hell even historic) nations quantify themselves through genetic homogenity (or would be able to).

At 11/17/10 11:41 PM, orangebomb wrote: This is a rather difficult subject, only because your trying to weigh the rights between privacy and the security standards of the airlines and the TSA.

while i can't say letting everyone on with anything is particularly desirable, the fact such measures have been seemingly ineffective is pretty disappointing.

At 11/17/10 07:34 AM, poxpower wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZHHh1yJB Kg&feature=sub

Good times.
This isn't the first time I've heard about this, obviously but that's a funny news segment on it.

it seems to be part of the zeitgeist; i've been hearing about it too, and the good news is teachers have a hell of a time proving you had something ghost-written (its almost fool-proof; except you spent lots of money on something that required the tiniest effort).

they should fire whoever does their lighting and mak-up though, so much shine [he had his lighting projects paid for in film school?].

At 11/16/10 07:12 PM, fatape wrote:

At 11/16/10 06:56 PM, frigi wrote: Stoners are no better than murderers and pedophiles. In fact you are worse.

To Obvious. 0/10.

too* !!!!!!!!

grammar-nazi troll is win.

At 11/15/10 03:52 PM, chairmankem wrote: I'm not condoning the use of them, but just laying them out their as options.

none of them seem to include banning Al Jazeera, does that mean doing so is unnecessary. if so; end thread?

At 11/14/10 04:14 PM, SohlTofang wrote: Drugs and alcohol,
over hyped, over used and over rated

meh.