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I AM STUNNED GOOD GOD THIS IS GORGATIOUS THIS IS MATRAMONY. I CAME TODAY FOR A LITTLE FEW VOTES FOR MY LEVEL AND THE SITE IS REDESIGNED HOLY SHIT!

At 6/26/07 01:09 PM, rottenmyscabies wrote:

At 6/26/07 01:08 PM, Pugberto wrote: I've been lead to believe would have to over 10,000 signed people for the attention to be brought up in the house of commons.

Doesn't meen it has to be 10,000 different people.

MUAHAHAHAH

This is wrestling who gives a shit?

PS: I hope that guy is ok regardless of his occupation.

No one else has thoughts on this serious petition? I'm surprised

At 6/26/07 11:44 AM, scottmale24 wrote: I'm not british, but I think I faked it rather well:

LOL

None else have views on a quite possibly critical Petition.

Newgrounds a porn site? not quite.

At 6/26/07 09:30 AM, DrHood wrote: Have petitions ever solved anything?

I don't know, but this being on the Downing street website may help. Anyway I will whore this link around the net as much as I can right now. Try and get the petition rolling (and no I didn't start the petition I was merely informed of its existence)

At 6/26/07 09:21 AM, Link50000 wrote:

MH2 is gonna pwn on the Wii :D

If only it would be released :D.

At 6/26/07 09:08 AM, SmackBang wrote: "The BBFC have recently refused to rate the videogame "Manhunt 2". As such, adults in this country will never be allowed to play this game. Adults should be allowed to make their own decisions with regard to what videogames they want to play.

LOL forgot link

Petition

"The BBFC have recently refused to rate the videogame "Manhunt 2". As such, adults in this country will never be allowed to play this game. Adults should be allowed to make their own decisions with regard to what videogames they want to play. We all understand that this game is extremely violent and unsuitable for children. As such an 18 rating should have been applied.".

This petition is on 10 downing streets website, only British citizens are allowed to sign it. Well, if you are a British citizen Sign it now! since this one may actually have the ability to influence the powers that be instead of an anonymous random and usually pointless one this petition may actually go somewhere.

At 6/25/07 02:55 PM, RampantBunnyLove wrote:

I have more links if you'd like hun.

Ownage approved sir.

What a stupid name choice in the first place. He would be the easiest target in a school, he would suffer a lot of hardship and pain JUST BECAUSE OF A SHITTY NAME.

In my opinion there are 4 types of people, the ignorant, the mislead, the weak minded and atheists.

I agree wholeheartedly with this entire post, other than maybe there are more variations of people than just those four types.

At 6/23/07 07:53 PM, stafffighter wrote:

At 6/23/07 07:49 PM, SmackBang wrote: Global Cooling, the number one reason why I think Global warming is utter shit.

You should celibrate that witty statment by laying out in the sun for like half an hour

Then afterwards peeling off my skin from being sunburnt!. Sadly there aint much sunshine where I live :(.

Global Cooling, the number one reason why I think Global warming is utter shit.

Ad- Aware - its free and scans files very fast. I have got lots of shit like tracking cookies off of my PC with it.

At 6/21/07 08:00 PM, LordZeebmork wrote:

mentally capable enough to ban the game

Well, obviously, if they take censorship (already a stupid idea) to this exceedingly idiotic level, they aren't very "mentally capable", now are they?

I Didn't write that material I only quoted it from a source.

At 6/21/07 06:45 PM, Lordofthefarm wrote: But the publicity on this has been very high. The Metro has had the story covered for the second day now, with opinions of this ban today.

But meh, what the hell do I know. Hope it goes though. I'll buy the damn game and shove it up one of their tight arses.

Yes I noticed the Metro wrote something about it, didn't read it mind you mainly because tabloids usually lie badly so I wasn't going top bother reading drivel.

At 6/21/07 06:41 PM, supyohos123 wrote:

At 6/21/07 06:07 PM, SmackBang wrote: From my point of view The whole eye thing is related to the Pickman project weapons, example someone activates the "weapons" Leo Kasper or whomever. There is a really good fan site http://www.projectmanhunt.com/ has all the up to date information on the Manhunt series. Solid stuff.

I am well aware of that site. The first one was a little dull, but Piggsy was awesome.

lol, yes Piggsy really was a cool bad guy. Oh and be sure to check out my thread on the BBFC's response to destructoid.com it really seems to me like the BBFC have made a BIG MISTAKE. Notice how the sporkesperson is a bit evasive at times and their own violence in videogames report contradicts the image they are spreading.

Linky to my thread (good read btw)

At 6/21/07 06:40 PM, Lordofthefarm wrote: Hopefully. But it's not gonna be easy to undo the shit in the UK. And if they did 'change their minds' or something, it would be an embarrassment to them.

Well, their own report contradicts to what they are putting across. But the first time I game got revoked (Carmageddon) an appeal was made and it got through. No one lost face. To me it seems they have played Manhunt 2 with a level hack and completely ignored the story.

"Dear BBFC

My name's Jim Sterling, a videogame journalist who works for Destructoid.com and who had to report for his site earlier today that you'd decided to effectively ban Manhunt 2 in the UK. I find this news depressing beyond all reason. I didn't even like the first Manhunt, but for this game to be banned because a select group, a small part of the population won't let us decide what media we can and cannot handle is just a shocking example of how farcical this country has become.

Hardcore pornography is legal, movies show shocking and deplorable acts time and time again, but because this is a videogame, we in the United Kingdom have suddenly been told we're not allowed to experience it. This is the kind of sickening double standard that an industry that rakes in more money than Hollywood has to deal with and we, the consumers, are the ones who get punished. What will it take for this childish and reactionary prejudice against videogames to end?

To claim that this game is harmful is a statement of purest arrogance. I would optimistically hope that the BBFC actually played this game before banning it - are your testers harmed in any way, shape or form by what they saw, or believe they saw? Evidently not, if they are not in therapy currently and were mentally capable enough to ban the game, so what justification do you have to just assume that everyone else is too weak to handle playing it? That's an insult to adult gamers up and down the country and I choose to take that insult personally. I'm 23 years old and I don't live with mummy anymore, I should be able to make my own decisions about what videogames I can safely play.

It just fills me with an icy dread that this is merely the beginning. Once an action is taken and succeeds, it becomes consequentially easier for that action to happen again and again. I hope Rockstar fights this and I hope Rockstar wins, not just for its own game, but for every game that could potentially fall victim to the whims of the few.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a game to import.

On principal alone.

Thank you for your time and for any general, copy/paste reply I may recieve,

Jim Sterling"

The BBFC responded to Jim's letter with these comments

"Dear Jim Sterling

Thank you for your email and your interesting comments.

The BBFC has considerable experience in classifying games, and we employ
several highly knowledgeable and experienced gamers as examiners. Although
it was not possible to play the game in its entirety, a significant sample
of MANHUNT 2 was played and examined by a number of our examiners, both
gamers and non-gamers, before a classification decision was made. We also
have access to various cheats and 'God' modes, provided by the company, to
enhance greater access to all parts of the game. All our classification
decisions are made in line with our published guidelines. These guidelines
are available on our main website - http://www.bbfc.co.uk - under the
section entitled 'downloads'.

You will find it useful to read our press release regarding our decision on
MANHUNT 2. This is available on our main website - http://www.bbfc.co.uk -
under the section entitled 'news', and then 'press'. The release is dated
19 June 2007.

You also like to read our recent video game research published earlier this
year. This study is also available on our main website under the section
headed 'downloads'.

I can also assure you that this response is neither a 'general' one nor a
cut and paste job.

Yours sincerely,

J L Green
Chief Assistant (Policy)"

Jims thoughts ?

"I thank Mr. Green for his personal (and amusingly sarcastic) response to my email, but what do we think? Did he answer the questions this issue raises to a satisfactory level? Considering many of my points were not addressed in the least (I seriously want to know what damage was done to the BBFC's testers), I have to say that I'm not entirely satiated by what I have been told.

You can guarantee that more comprehensive answers on not just this issue, but many issues involving the unbiased and equal treatment of videogames will be actively sought out from this point forward. Stay tuned to Destructoid for upcoming news regarding just how these answers are being searched for.

Remember, this is not just about Manhunt 2, this is about videogames. "

Source : destructoid.com

Jim also has a conversation log between him and a BBFC person on the phone

Phone conversation

In the conversation We can see that one of the reports of violence in videogames goes back on what the BBFC are doing by saying things like :
"We were particularly interested to see that this research suggests that, far from having a potentially negative impact on the reaction of the player, the very fact that they have to interact with the game seems to keep them more firmly rooted in reality. People who do not play games raise concerns about their engrossing nature, assuming that players are also emotionally engrossed. This research suggests the opposite; a range of factors seems to make them less emotionally involving than film or television. The adversaries which players have to eliminate have no personality and so are not real and their destruction is therefore not real, regardless of how violent that destruction might be. This firm grasp on reality seems to extend to younger players."

With things like this I'm begginning so see a glimmer of hope for Rockstars Appeal.

At 6/21/07 06:00 PM, supyohos123 wrote:

At 6/21/07 05:57 PM, SmackBang wrote:

At 6/21/07 05:56 PM, supyohos123 wrote: I want everybody in this thread to hear some of the shit that the game is about.

Old If you had been keeping in touch with Manhunt 2 news like myself, I think that voice acting is great.

You are obviously ahead of me with information, but it seems not too many people know about the depth of the games story. Probably something about a government conspiracy. I think that the squarish object in the eye of my sig has something to do with the need to kill.

Are you being sarcastic?, I can't tell either way a quick Wikipedia read will tell you all about the plot.

From my point of view The whole eye thing is related to the Pickman project weapons, example someone activates the "weapons" Leo Kasper or whomever. There is a really good fan site http://www.projectmanhunt.com/ has all the up to date information on the Manhunt series. Solid stuff.

Starting at about 2001 I would have thought either that or 2002. Now , I know much much more.

Citizen Kane number one? Not what I would have on Number one.

At 6/21/07 05:56 PM, supyohos123 wrote: I want everybody in this thread to hear some of the shit that the game is about.

Old If you had been keeping in touch with Manhunt 2 news like myself, I think that voice acting is great.

You complain about people on Newgrounds that fall into the category of a "noob" yet your account would be regarded as many, a noobish account.

For America I believe they can appeal against the AO rating. As for the ban in the U.K Rockstar can hold an appeal against the ban, I am told it is like a court case. I also read a spokespersons comments on appeals from the BBFC it was talking about how most appeals win and that most appeals are on the grounds of very dark pornographic content.

Look at it in this way, all those seedy porno producers most likely didn't have a huge budget for their appeal team, Rockstar on the other hand I am sure would be able to form with their money a n awesome Appeal team. If this appeal team wins consider all of this ban bullshit as advertisement for Manhunt 2 ;)

At 6/20/07 01:14 PM, Ezgamer wrote:

At 6/20/07 12:54 PM, SniperWolf1564 wrote:

At 6/20/07 05:37 AM, Ezgamer wrote:

At 6/20/07 04:45 AM, Sunglasses wrote: Yes, some of you saw this coming (and already posted it, it seems).

Needs more Bedn.

What? No Tom? Shame.

I can't believe i forgot to put Tom in there. Unacceptable...

LMFAO 10 points for teh funneh.

At 6/20/07 03:41 AM, Torkelson wrote: Love can be found anywhare...

LMFAO I was just thinking that