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At 12/8/07 05:30 PM, Bolo wrote:

At 12/8/07 03:50 PM, SEXY-FETUS wrote: Looking into 9mm sidearm.

Ah, I see. It's ghetto-cruising time.

Wow you have it exactly right! I'm even going to mount some sights on the side of the barrel so I can shoot acurately and gangsta. Or maybe I'm going to take it to the shooting range and have some fun getting more acurate with a short barrel.

win 7mm
thompson contender - 45 long colt, 30.30, 223, and 22 barrels
Looking into 9mm sidearm.

christopherr, utah mormons are a complete different breed. Comparing a utah morman to one outside of the state is like comparing a muslim in Iran to one in kentucky. They're worlds apart and geography plays more of a role then religion.

At 12/6/07 08:02 AM, xTxJx wrote:

At 12/6/07 12:41 AM, SEXY-FETUS wrote: I bet it's all in the context of how you bring it up. If you bring it into a conversation and then procede to say "if you disagree you're a retarded asshat." or something on those lines, ofcourse someones going to jump down your throat. Also if you happen to bring it out of no where that would call for it as well, politics are touchy let topics come naturally into discussion and let it go if they don't. Or maybe they're not really jumping down your throat at all. If you bring up something someone disagrees with they'll most likely inform you they disagree with you and give reasons why. Then if you're closed minded and ill informed on a topic you'd feel cornered on the topic with no reply and feel like they're jumping down your throat.

I do let them come up. And I don't call them retarted for their opinion. Everyone has their own opinions. And that's fine with me. And I said it calmly she liike started yelling and saying I was wrong...I was like "sorry for bringing it up :[" And she goes "You're just a teenager, what do you know?" I was liike "alot more than you think I do." So see? She did jump down my throat. People just think teens don't know anything on one subject.

I see. You've found what certain cultures would refer to as a "bitch", they should be avoided when possible, they can be easily spotted through their lack of facial expression and male partnership. The simple way to in return make her feel like a jackass is to simply ask "What was your opinion on abortion when you were my age?" Chances are if she's that jumpy right off the bat she's held this belief strong for a long time. It will also invalidate her claim that your opinion is worth less due to your age. Also not to dig, but saying "like" alot makes your comments sound like they weren't thought through. Just replace with "said" and "replied". I know it sounds goofy, but it reads alot easier.

I think the parents have the most control over this. You need to start young.
Teach them discipline and respect. It's important when they're older to be used to the feeling of depriving themselves of something they want to achieve something they need. With respect it's alot easier to respect yourself when you respect others. And a good sense of respect for yourself is a good way of using pride to keep yourself in good condition.
Never use food as a reward. Reward them with something that's good for them, a game of catch, going out to the park, letting a friend stay the night. You never want them to associate bad behavior with doing something good. It feels good to do well enough to recieve praise and reward, you don't want them having a pavlovian response of that from eating a bowl of ice cream.
Be sure they have responsibilities that must be carried out. Have chores for them to do, even if it's a simple token task, have it, set rewards and punishment for when they do or don't do them. Understanding responsibility is understanding actions have consequences good and bad and understanding that gives you a good mindset of thinking forward. It's not always fun or pleasant for the kid and parent, but giving your children these values will not only help them avoid obesity, but help them become good adults.
As for parents not having an iron will. Remember it's for your children and you'll find it.

I bet it's all in the context of how you bring it up. If you bring it into a conversation and then procede to say "if you disagree you're a retarded asshat." or something on those lines, ofcourse someones going to jump down your throat. Also if you happen to bring it out of no where that would call for it as well, politics are touchy let topics come naturally into discussion and let it go if they don't. Or maybe they're not really jumping down your throat at all. If you bring up something someone disagrees with they'll most likely inform you they disagree with you and give reasons why. Then if you're closed minded and ill informed on a topic you'd feel cornered on the topic with no reply and feel like they're jumping down your throat.

1) Define marketing as any outside influence.
2) Claim that outside influences change who we are.
3) Claim that's a bad thing.
4) ?
I'm not seeing where you're going here? Are you telling me you're evil because you're "marketing" this particular opinion?

doublelink - If you actually look into the veto'd chip bill you'd see that it was going to do very little. The point of it was to punisha group, not help children. And republicans are all for welfare as in helping people who actually need it, but we also dont believe the lazy deserve the help set aside from good will. Personally I'd be happy with any amount high or low spent on welfare if the qualifacations for recieving it weren't so loose.

The scouts won't be bullied. They'll simply find someone that will accept their homophobic money elsewhere.

The schiavo case was more about a disagreement in what condition she was actually in. The parents believed she had a good chance to improve and wanted to keep her alive to find out, her husband thought there was no hope and wanted to end any possable suffering. I personaly would like to see favour going towards life, but I have no clue of the facts the doctors have put together on the woman so really can't compliment on if she should have lived or not. I'll skip this one and just keep defending unborn children and death-row inmates.

At 12/2/07 09:12 AM, Drakim wrote:

At 12/1/07 10:03 PM, ElGufoPazzo wrote: I've never met a republican who thought a democrat was an idiotic because of their political views. If you're referring to places like the deep south, they hate intricates, not democrats. On that note, they would hate a liberal republican; it's not about political view, it's about religion and culture for them.

Ann Coulter wrote a book called "If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans.", which I have yet to see a single republican say is a bad book. (haven't been searching too much though)

You might as well rename all of that womans books as "Look at me, I need attention!" Vol. 1 Vol. 2 etc...
I have yet to meet a single republican that takes her seriously.
On topic though. I've noticed when ever someone finds out my lean is to the right they seem to turn a bit condescending and arrogent. They honestly think there is no other explanation, aside from serious mental retardation, that you could have a different opinion. I sometimes get the feeling that their only tool to measure a persons intelligence is finding out political affiliation. Even if you were in a good discussion before hand they suddenly turn off to the new ideas and look as if they're speaking with a talking dog. To say they are more open to "new ideas" seems a bit exagerated or more accurately bullshit, because they only seem open to the "new ideas" brought by the same old people.

I'd doubt we would have as many abortions in countries that have the ability to put law enforcement into preventive positions. Yes people will break the law, but that doesn't mean the law doesn't need to be in place. We have traffic laws and drug laws and gun laws and laws concerning everything trying to protect the safety of others and ourselves. People break the laws and do damage, but countless more would do the same actions if laws weren't in place. Hell I wouldn't go below 100mph on the freeway if it weren't for the fear of getting a ticket and possible impound.

I think someone just had a lecture about "scarecrow" debate tactics. YAY for learning!

I just want to rant off a bit about all the little idgets that love to throw in a religious debate "Ahteism isn't a belief it's a lack of belief, hehehehehehehehehaaa." STFU all ready. It's a belief, you believe there is no god or higher power. Define yourself by what you believe not by what you don't.
It's just one of my little petpeves like someone that must point out that black isn't a color, it's the absense of color. If I want a black shirt I'll say I want a black shirt, I won't ask for a not red blue or green shirt. And if someone asks what I believe I'll tell them I'm an atheist, not a not christian.

There is no middle ground on most issues, but there are alot of common sense givings. I'm pro-life, but I understand that in some rare cases it's inhumane to force a mother through a pregnancy. I'm pro gay marriage, but I don't believe religous groups should be looked at as hate groups. I'm pro-gun but I believe certain people should never own or handle one. I'm an athiest and I have no problem seeing a nativity scene during christmas. I'm pro-military but disagree with the war in iraq and in a premature pullout. I like capitalism but fear it may lead astray if people don't grow some balls or brain tissue and figure out they've been screwing themselves.
You find middle ground people by dividing up the issues and allowing yourself to differentiate from the different ideologies. Sure you may look at things and decide you're completely liberal or conservative, but I bet the majority will have a few variations on big and little issues.

I just gotta say a few things to this. The crusades USED religion to get violence and power. The kings wanting to expand their empires used the excuse of spreading christianity to get the commonfolk to go along with it. Today we see the same thing invading iraq. We're doing to to expand democracy! Sure not as many people are going for it, but does that mean democracy is evil or bad? Or is it the people using it as an excuse to whatever goal they're trying to achieve?
Sure we could cut down religion by not allowing parents to teach their children, but then again that sounds like an asshole trying to force his beliefs down someones throat. Besides they're parents, it's religion. How are you going to ban such a thing? Kids ask questions. You're gonna have to explain something when they ask who that guy on the cross is or where you go every sunday and who are you talking to before dinner. It's not so much taught as it is picked up from living with the person.

I can't remember what state it was, but anyways major red state bible thumper type. A piece of legislation went up that would ban abortion, basically hoping to get the supreme court to look at it again to at least put it in the states rights to control. Needless to say it was shot down because it just plain outlawed abortion regardless of rape, incest, and valid medical reasons. So you see even these evil jesus freak pro-lifers see the importance abortion CAN have and don't even want to ban abortion completely. Besides that. Have you ever actually heard anyone say that YOU shouldn't use birth control? No, it's a personal belief they take on themselves(catholics mostly) and it's looked at lightly that if you do happen to use birth control the only punishment is you don't take sacriment the following sunday. Saying this is next in line to an abortion ban is as asinine as saying bestial marriage is short to follow after allowing homosexual marriage. And since I know the question is going to come up. The punishment for performing an illegal abortion should be loss of liscense(if applicable) and jail time for the performing doctor and short stay at a state mental institution to determine mental stability of the woman.

How is a noose racist?

So much of this thread is reminding me of enders game.

The problem in iraq is that we have changed our tactics. It's a different type of fight. Civilians and enemies are very closely woven together, we can't just carpet bomb and send troops to pick up the pieces. We need precision here and that takes people and that means more lives are at stake. Considering that we have done a wonderful job at preventing casualties. We're reinventing the wheel here. We've asked our troops to enter hostile territory and when they come to face with someone they must first identify friend or foe then decide the risk involved in non-lethal capture if that's not possible they can use deadly force, every incident is investigated btw. Now with all that in mind are you surprised there's a few casualties on our side and among civilians?

I've contemplated that idea a few times. You just have to regard everything as infinately small and infinately big. However if the speed of light truly is the speed limit that would disprove it completely by the fact that we move. If our universe is an atom on someones finger the act of typing would mean the distance our universe travels is millions of times faster then the speed of light to our perception. Ofcourse it would be a nifty explanation for nuclear power. The act of splitting an entire universe apart and the reaction caused by effectively breaking every physics law it holds with it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qU1fixMAObI
This explains the tenth dimension that seems to be the going theory on how vast space travel is possible. Going a little further on what elfer mentioned above.

If we can discuss president schwarzenagers impeachment I'm sure this would fall under fair game.

What's the difference between a pizza and a jew?
A pizza doesn't scream when you put it in the oven.
What's the worse thing about eating bald pussy?
Putting the diaper back on.
What do you call a mexican 5 year old girl without any male reletives?
A virgin.
There you go racism, pedophilia and racist pedophilia.
To answer your question. No.

At 11/21/07 04:25 PM, ClickToPlay wrote: Now I've been wondering about this for a while..

1) If God is all powerful can s/he create a wall that even he cannot destroy? But.. If he destroys it, then he isn't all that powerful..

Could god microwave a burrito so hot that even he could not eat it? Using this paradox and the christian belief of god what you would come up with is infinity, something alot of scientist have deemed "god".

2) God supposedly writes down or something like that when your going to die, if God said that Suzie will day on 4 of December 2007 at 6:18, so Suzie is walking down the street and it's 6:15 on December the 4th, and on her way to the supermarket, a hobo named Ralph asks her for her handbag, she refuses, so then it's 6:17 and he's getting tired of asking her, after he takes out his gun and reloads it and asks once more, he shoots her 20 seconds before its 6:18, and she lays there, in pain, dying. Why is Ralph doing the wrong thing? The fact that she will die at 6:18 by this man, because God can see the future, doesn't make him a sinner...

You ever read up on the whole god satan thing? Basically satan didn't want us to have free will and god did, god won we got free will and satan tries to prove god wrong by tempting us to do wrong. If you want to think god is all powerfull he probably knows when we will die, but he doesn't decide it. And the fact that ralph can make that choice without interuption from god proves fully our free will.

Explain.

You're clutching on roots when you have fields to run in. You really think some easily explainable paradoxs are going change someones beliefs? It's pretty easy to disprove individual religions, pretty hard to go after it as a whole. And it's damn impossible to convince anyone against what they know to be true. I doubt you see any magical christian missionary coming and changing your mind any time soon and I'm sure some peon athiest isn't going to do the same for them.

Why is everyone so worried about GE being used to weed out the "gay gene"? IT seems so silly to me, first many would put the point it's the parents choice to do so or not, I hardly doubt it would be a government mandate. Besides if you're using science to change so much about who a person is why would you be concerned with this portion over anything else?

I think there is going be a set level of politeness different from ours on any moon colony. Think who the first people to colonize the moon are going to be. It's going to be scientist and entrepenors who will agree to some very strict rules and regulations. These expectations are going to be ingrain in the generation that will be accepting immigration. Taking a bath would be as rude as enjoying a turkey dinner in starving portions of africa. Sure there's going to be a few glutons that won't listen, but it would be so few between considering the type of person likely to imigrate it makes itself into a non-issue. I would think at that point any form of government would be suitable.

This is a scary one. On one hand I believe the constitution protects the rights of gun owners. On the other I think our s.c. has a predisposition towards gun control. This one is almost scary enough and enough of a close call it could be fun to have money on it.

The employer is the people paying taxes for schools.
The employee is the teacher.
The product is the student.
If the cow gets into bad grazing areas the meat won't be as good, it's not the ranchers job to send him on his way. He needs to figure out how to get him from grazing off the bad plants. If every kid thirsted for knowledge we'd just hand them a bunch of books and say have at it. Teachers not only need to teach, but also find a way to get students to want to learn. OH NOS A HARD JOBZOR!!!!

How about we get rid of all the shitty teachers? Now there's an idea, get rid of them so more kids can actually get into to school. I aplaud their efforts to do something so selfless, but if you suck at it it's too important to let you continue.