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At 11/11/07 04:07 PM, Bolo wrote: Until you've been on the receiving end of secondhand smoke, and you're not a smoker, it's hard to conceive just how annoying public smokers are.

As hard to concieve as not being forced onto private property that's open to the public? That seems to be the big one people can't imagine.

Wow you proved yourself wrong in less then 3 seconds.
Putting only male prisoners together prevents rape(cept for anal)

Please tell me more bout this secondhand being more dangerous. Oh and please I'd love to hear one time you were cornered by smokers.

At 11/11/07 11:49 AM, Draconias wrote: Eh, I know what they are doing to smoking is wrong, but due to my own preferences I support it, or at least won't ever speak against it.

Sure, the government is going overboard, but I hate the smell of smoke, I hate having people smoke around me, and I hate when any of the people I know smoke because of the stench. Any limitations on smokers directly benefits me-- so I can't really find a reason to argue against these laws because it has made it so much better for me to go to pubs and bars, or walk around parks, or be anywhere (my city has banned smoking in all public places).

It's wrong, but it's a win for me, so continue on.

That's the big problem with it, and I thank you for your honesty. We're not looking out for eachothers rights. Like you said, it's to your benefit. If they make it illegal to smoke in bars and resturaunts, that's just more options open to you. The big problem with smokers is the feeling of being cornered, before laws went through that said "Hey we don't want you smokin around the kids as much, so heres the places you can't any more." We were forced to homes, private club resturaunts and pubs and bars. Now you're telling us that for the sake of the employee at the hole in the wall resturaunt that turned into a private club for the sake of allowing smoking, and for the sake of the adult patrons of a bar who can choose to go anywhere they want, that I'm not allowed to smoke there any more. The general feeling is one that you're next going to force us into a small ranch somewhere in wyoming, the last place to smoke in our wonderful FREE country, and then your gonna build a childrens hospital right next to that and call us all the slurs and worse.

Hell I still have a "FOXY" bumber sticker.
/yay used cars!

Or we could just not kill prisoners and hope all this "rehabilitation" people are spouting about isn't all bullshit. I know silly idea, I'll go back to my hole now.

At 11/8/07 07:22 AM, Alphabit wrote:

At 11/8/07 06:57 AM, SuperDeagle wrote:

At 11/8/07 06:37 AM, Alphabit wrote: If the child starts his young adult life with millions of dollars in debt, he's as good as dead. He'll have no prospects of success, he will most likely never own a home and will probably have to steal for a living because of something he did when he was 10. Common.

Get over it, he knows exactly what he did, and why he did it.
Therefore it's his stupid fault for being stupid.

No, it's all in his genes, some kids are just born trouble-makers. You can't blame the parents either, because they didn't invent their own genes either. Punishing someone for their inherited personality traits is just as bad as punishing someone for the color of their skin... Then again, as Warren Buffet would say, some people are members of the 'lucky sperm club' and society rewards them for it.

That post was very deep. In the BS sort of way. If someones genes make them start fires then that's just an argument to lock them up longer away from the rest of society whos genes tell them that would be a stupid idea.

try to help some people

Christianity is viewed as an obstacle to many things. People think the only way you can become a christian is by becoming a mindless sheep drone. If you think islam is too violent then obviously you're just not enlightened enough to see things from there prespective. Convincing someone to think outside of an extreme liberal mindset can only be accomplished through brainwashing, and what better place then a carnival.
Now cue the pac-man picture with the christian portion captioned "Help we're being opressed."

At 11/5/07 06:33 PM, Memorize wrote: Strange how liberals have no problem smashing Rudy by using a few firefighter's opinions, but conservatives can't do the same to Kerry with the Vets.

Firefighters to rudy pointed out personality and leadership flaws people could already see in the man.
Swiftboat to kerry pointed out personailty and leadership flaws people were surprised to see in the man.
Is it because ones protected the other isn't in the media? I don't know. THat's just how it is.

YOUR ARGUMENT SMASHES MINE, SO THEREFOR IT MUST BE INVALID! BLAAARGH

At 11/5/07 03:11 AM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote:

At 11/4/07 11:47 PM, SEXY-FETUS wrote:

At 11/4/07 10:45 PM, JoyKill wrote: the only way the U.S can be saved is if we get a president that actualy cares about the U.S and its problems not one that cares about only finding a way to get rich

And when we get one you'll realize our current president is just a scapegoat everyone is blaming for their own mistakes.

lol jus to get this out of the way, you must be sayin "everyone" meaning Dick cheny and all the bastards who let 9/11 happen, its not the American people's fault, were jus caught in the middle.

No I mean everybody. Economy bad, that's bush. Schools suck, that's bush. Bad hair day, motherfucking bush! All that shit we complained about during the clinton administration, bush needs to be impeached and hung for that shit.
And stop with the damn conspiracy theory bullshit, nobody gives a shit about what some aliens told you about 9/11 through your spiffy little tinfoil hat. The fact that you pay mind to utter nonsense and take it a step further by spamming it around every where really shows you either have the mental capacity of a 4 year old or live in a complete fantasy world.
Also insane clown posse sucks ass. They are raps equivalent to gallager, and rap is musics equivalent to fingerpainting.
/yay for drunk posting

At 11/4/07 10:45 PM, JoyKill wrote: the only way the U.S can be saved is if we get a president that actualy cares about the U.S and its problems not one that cares about only finding a way to get rich

And when we get one you'll realize our current president is just a scapegoat everyone is blaming for their own mistakes.

At 11/4/07 07:31 PM, DraGoN-RaGe-9001 wrote: The reason I ask this is because of all the things that are currently happening. I mean lets just go over a few things. The government is corrupt to the core. The officials there are only concerned to gain money and gain more power over the people. Also the media is more interested in showing us Paris Hilton's snatch than real issues in the news that matter.

Government corrupt?! Next thing you'll be telling me frosted flakes have sugar! And the media is going to show what gets the ratings. People have moved from television news networks to the internet and they're doing what they need to stay alive, and that's opinion and pop-culture. Newspaper did the same thing when 24/7 network news started putting them on the backshelf.

Plus, just look at our borders. Holly shit what a disaster. I mean these illegals are committing crime after crime and we do nothing but deport them which is useless. We even persecuted men on the border who tried to STOP drug smugglers. Congress is constantly ignoring this issue. I think that they want to open up the borders between Canada and Mexico.

We deport hundreds of people a day. For some reason though we have a bit of a heart and will only deport them if they add an additional charge on top of coming over illegaly. Having more of a heart would be prosecuting those that take advantage of their situation, but that cuts into pocketbooks of those corrupt people you mentioned above.

The war in Iraq is another debacle we've gotten our selves into. We are even talking about goign to war with Iran. Enough with the wars. We are so involved with other countries and we don't see how our country is slowly deteriorating. Fix shit here FIRST.

Why fix the block when there's a tire flat? We're a super power, it's somewhat expected that we help countries in need. In fact we're asked all the time to help in conflicts. The BIG problem with iraq is it's on a large scale and nobody asked for help. Just remember we send troups to dozens of different conflicts around the world, help is given and it hardly makes a footnote on any form of news.

Well thats what I see so far and I ask of you Can America Be Saved? I don't know If i missed anything, please feel free to add anything else wrong with the state America is currently in.

There's plenty of other things. Our rights taken away left and right and emotional extremist judges deciding that the only true verses in the constitution are the ones written between the lines. I could go on for hours on bad interpitations and flat out illegal laws being passed everyday that nobody is standing up for themselves about.

This is the way I see things and if any you guys have reason to dispute or prove me wrong also please feel free.

Keep with what you believe. If you feel something is wrong, try to do something about it. Write to officials that have the power to help, doesn't matter if it's your president or your favorite city council member.

Well I expect canadians to think lightly of us if this is the type of coverage given.

At 11/1/07 12:37 AM, stafffighter wrote:

At 11/1/07 12:24 AM, SEXY-FETUS wrote:

At 11/1/07 12:22 AM, stafffighter wrote: I was a scout. Didn't do well with the little wooden race cars but that hasen't affected me politically.

The pinewood derby. That was always fun, you could always tell when someones dad was the builder though.

Dad helping, heritage, old money, high society connections, republicans...........no I can't reach far enough to make this political

I aplaud your effort. You could diregaurd the last statement and go straight for the enviromentalist angle of wasting trees or something along those lines maybe?

although I'm prolife I'll give you the argument.
A condom can break and an abortion or emergency contraception are your options if a pregnancy accurs due to that break.
The abortion debate is a circle-jerk, both sides have equally convincing reasoning and all it comes down to in the end, either for or against, is emotional. What your gut tells you is right. Arguing back and forth does nothing to convince anyone, abortion is one of those weird topics where the persons mind is made up the first time they hear about it and is never in any discussion, only debate, when both sides are represented. This thread is going to turn into a flamewar, eventually locked and will only end in bad opinions and hurt feelings.

At 11/1/07 12:22 AM, stafffighter wrote: I was a scout. Didn't do well with the little wooden race cars but that hasen't affected me politically.

The pinewood derby. That was always fun, you could always tell when someones dad was the builder though.

The problem with scouting most people find is that even though they don't require you to be for membership, they are very openly christian and expect you to join in such things as opening prayers and stating that horrible nasty word "God" when you say the pledge of allegence. They also have a policy of not allowing homosexuals to be in leadership positions. Their feeling is that although not all homosexuals are sexual predators of the young boys they'll be put in a position of trust with, they're the most likely demographic and therefor phased out. Kinda like bloodbanks, they know they all don't have AIDS, but the numbers force them to turn them away. Alot of people feel this makes them a hate group and understandably so. There's also the nutjobs that think it's wrong to teach children patriotism and feel they're just brainwashing these kids to be the next wave of super-ultra-mega-pro-american soldier drones for the country to toss into meaningless wars.
Oh and the uniforms look kinda geeky.

So basically you're aying all the complexities of religion stem from a fear of death.
Watch out for hurricanes, there's alot of butterflies in china.

Either you build it yourself or as people say you have a silver spoon. Both ways it's yours. I don't know about the rest of you, but if I built myself up to billionare status I'm not gonna feed my kids spaggeti-o's and send them off to community college. Sure I wouldn't back up stupid decisions like alot of people have(hiltons) but that's also their right to choose how they spend their money.

I hate you for it too.

People are starting to have more forward thinking towards marijuana. Expect it legalized in the near future.

Please never call hillary conservative again. kthnxbi

they have special ignitions for cars that require you to give a breath sample before starting the car.
And anyone else notice the huge time warp on this thread?

I hate these official <insert item> topics. They just get circled with vultures repeating the same shit over and over again. Page after page of every attempt at a new thought shot down to add a rotting carcas to the steaming pile of shit that is the thread.

The problem isn't uninformed voters as I see it. It's people voting for the best interest of OTHER people, when they have no idea what they really need. Yes, do your research, find the candidate that best suits your interests and needs. If everyone does that, yay we get a president with the interests of the majority in mind.

So you learned about mayonase in chemistry? EVERBODY DID! It's one of those nice simple little things you can use to build bigger ideas off of. Just remember, you're the student, you're in there to learn something that you don't know and that the teacher does. I know you were pretty gung ho about making explosives and fuzzy drinks, but you gotta start somewhere, and this is where they decided to start you.

Wow dude, you're a fucking retard.(not flamebait)

I'm glad someone else sees the link as a marriage as a bond between a couple and its community.