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I just want to clear some things up.

Research has found that children raised by LGBT parents are just as likely to be heterosexual or homosexual than if they were raised by heterosexual parents. So don't worry about them "infecting them with teh gei"

And there are organizations to provide support for children who are raised by LGBT parents. Such organizations as PFLAG (a lovely organization of parents of gay children/children of gay parents).

Yes children are cruel. But at the same time, I don't think they are going to be excluded from telling people about their parents just because OMG I have 2 same sex parents.

Some research that has come out, suggests that children raised with LGBT parents are more tolerant when it comes to homosexuality, racial issues, and gender issues. So don't think it's all negative. They are just as likely to be "happy" or "messed up" as if they came from heterosexual parents. They do however face some discrimination issues.

Another thing, some people have suggested that "omg geis can't have children". I know that it's hard to wrap little minds around it, but there are options other than adoption. There's surrogate pregnancy, artificial insemination, in vitro fertilization, etc. Often a lot of gay couples already have children from previous marraiges. Often lesbian partners, will have children from previous heterosexual partners.

At 2/21/06 10:59 PM, Wyrlum wrote:

At 2/19/06 09:09 PM, sakuraicedtea wrote: I really don't know why people hate us so much......

I don't think as many people hate you as you think do. Fact is, you could walk into about any church and say "I'm gay" and receive as much kindness as anyone else (though I do not deny there are bigots, but most Christians hate bigotry). That isn't the same as opposing gay marriage though. I just don't think gay marriage is the answer. Gayness is not consistent with our biology; it's unnatural. I think these people should seek councelling.

Oh wow. You really don't know what its like. You say that most churches would be "kind" and not bigoted. I dare you to go to a church and say that. Believe me, don't be suprised if you get a different response than you expect. [and when I say churches, I mean mostly evangelical and middleground]

....I don't need counseling *roll eyes*. Gayness is not consistant with biology...along with a bunch of other medical procedures that we all have commonly done. Ever have an appendix burst? Didn't you take it out? That's unnatural becuase we were born with it.

I would just like to say that I'm a bisexual female. I'm more attracted to women but I still occasionally date men.

What I am about to say will make many of you upset and I understand that. I just hope that you read my post and consider things.

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I like gay pride parades. The reason we have them is to not "OMGZ SHOVE IT IN OUR FACE!!" It is to show support for LGBTAQ people (Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Allies Queer people).
In your inner circle of friends, can all of them recount tales of being verbally and physically harassed almost every single day? Although harassment is not unique to the Queer community (Race, gender, ethnicity especially), it is sad that every single person in my inner circle of friends can recount such a tale. Personally, I have had students wait after class to bascially tell me I'm evil and stupid. I feel worse for my genderqueer brethren because my looks "pass" for straight.
In the gay pride events in my community, I have never seen anything except light collegial humor. Sure, some will dress up like the gold thong guy in the Rocky Horror Picture Show but I've also seen that in my high school parades. Those events motivate people that "yeah, it's ok to be gay". Now I know most of you think that you've heard that message over and over, but when a person is locked up in a closet they have a selective perception of what it's like to be out.
The closet is a traumatizing, depressing space. Imagine your friend telling you all about their significant other, but you can't do the same because you don't know how they would react? I've literally seen people talk about their significants and then I turn around and say the same thing, leading to me never seeing them again.
I'm not happy with just being gay and "keeping it in my bedroom". That doesn't mean I'm going to SHOVE it in your face. It just means I'm going to be just as honest about my love life as heterosexuals are. Will I kiss in public my girlfriend? Sure [and then expect someone to throw bottles and rocks at me]. Will I "Omgz" make out with her in public and grab her ass? No.

There are some gay people who hook up all the time. The SAME as heterosexuals. And I don't disparage them for that because it's their choice. I also know a lot of quiet homosexuals who are politically actively loud who are often with one partner or no partner at all. The SAME as heterosexuals.

99% of "Ex-gay" literature like "Narth" are based on faulty biased studies [and yes it is possible to get a NON-BIASED study as someone said "there are no biased studies"]. So are some of the gay studies that are out there saying positive things about gays, but that doesn't make all gay studies bad.

I wasn't "abused" as a child and any part of my messed up psychy [we all have somethings that are messed up] is not related to my "gayness". What's really funny is that the majority of homosexual males realize their gay by the ages of 5-7, so it's really early-on that you know. I personally didn't realize that I was "gay" until I was 11 because nobody had told me what a lesbian was [I was sheltered...I went to a somewhat boarding school atmosphere], but I knew early on that I was attracted to both sexes, but mostly girls.

The thing that would make me happiest is if I could get married. Right now, homosexuals don't really have a lot of "rights". Including hospital visitation (since I'm not family, my girlfriend could be sick and dying and I couldn't have access to her), domestic partner benefits, death inheritence (my girlfriend could die and her will invalidated by her family on a technicality), adoption rights. If you don't like gay marriage, then don't have one. It's not going to stop gay people from being together.

And I don't want a mamby pamby pansy "civil-union". I want marraige. Marraige is a governmental institution and a religious institution. However, marraige is a religious institution for many faiths NOT JUST CHRISTIANITY. And as such, there are many churches that have no problems with marrying gay people, so don't worry about us invading your churches. Personally I shift between reform Jew to Episcopilian. Both would be happy to perform a marraige ceremony [especially since one of the rabbi's is a lesbian].

And for those who keep saying that "gay marriage isn't in the constitution", I would just like to point out that many things are not in the constitution. Your right to privacy? No where in the constitution does it say you have a right to privacy. The right to privacy was decided by the supreme court and was given precedent by the first, second, third, and fifth ammendment to the consitution. So please understand that even though the constitution does not blatantly say things, there are legal basis for many of the rights we hold today. If we went by the constitution's literal definition and the founder's document, black's would still be slaves and women would be property.

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Just my 2 cents.

I really don't know why people hate us so much......

Except for the person who posted above me, I'm somewhat suprised (but not really because this is newgrounds) that it seems like only males are discussing a woman's right to choose. Even those against abortion can't seem to really see through the women's perspective.

"Keep UR legz SHUT!" is the most common phrase I hear. I would just like to dispel some of the myths out there. Condoms break and have a 84% effective rate (not 97%) because not everyone puts them on correctly or just wear and tear. Birth control has a 92% effective rate (not 99%) because again the usage might not be done correctly, or other issues are present. Every other form of birth control is just as effective. That being said, I love it how women are supposed to keep their legs shut but its usually the men who want to have sex, ne?

I love some of the mysoginistic posts in this thread and some of the comments produced from it.

I've had a morning after pill before and believe me, I feel no "guilt" at the potential life. Are you going to save all your sperm because it was potential "life".