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Response to: The Elite Guard Barracks Posted January 11th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

Hey, you guys see that the review panels are different now?

It's kinda' cool, but I think it'll take some getting used to. I think the big score numbers are ugly as shit, though. They need not be block numbers.

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 10th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/10/08 09:09 PM, TheThing wrote: Sorry, I've been quite busy the last couple of days.

I like RSQ's idea for the Ranking system, although I can find a flaw; people who are decent at flash are going to be able to get (at least) 15 more points than another member that has all the same stats as them. But we can't isolate each XR set to each department; it'll put the flashers at a disadvantage because they can't pump out 5 flashes a week, unlike some one who posts 5-10 times a day or gets 25 b/p points per day. Unless we put some things on a curve, such as making a flash with a score of 1.80 - 2.29 7XR, since the average person posts 5-10 times a day, and a flash that gets that score could take a week.

But that's just my 2 cents.

Yeah, get it. This is also why I mentioned making Departmental ranks - appointed ranks.

But, also when it comes to the NGDD ranks I put up (that proceed the Dept Ranks) everything counts. So, someone in Flash that has 1,000 (100XR) posts and five Flashes with over a 3.50 (20XR each) will have the same amount of XR as someone with 2,000 posts (200XR). But, when it comes to the department, they will only have 1,000XR. But, at the same time when you're in your Dept you are being matched with only people in your dept. So someone having a higher Dept rank in (for example) the BBS Dept has no weight in the IA Dept.

To match-up you look at total XR. I think it may be a cool way to get people more involved in the NGDD as well. maybe some extra XR will make you want to host a competition to get some more XR to raise your NGDD rank a bit. It helps you, it help the NGDD and at the same time, now your dept has held its competition.

But, there is balancing to do, I agree. All that I posted was just a basic idea so people could get an idea of what I was talking about. I just don't want to make it so Flash/Audio is this HUGE amount of XR, either so what I am going to do this weekend is actually look at a bunch of people here in the NGDD, put their stats down and start calculating XR using different numbers and see where it takes me.

I want to try and simplify it a bit, but at the same time I don't want to make it so simple that a Flash of a 1.80 is the same or almost the same amount of XR as a Flash with a 3.50, you know? Quality and likability need to reap rewards.

Response to: Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge Posted January 10th, 2008 in Where is / How to?

Well, I just made 7,000 B/P and Master Sergeant! And it's about time!

Response to: The Elite Guard Barracks Posted January 10th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/10/08 10:10 PM, lilhunter03 wrote: I'll join this place.

Welcome. =)

At 1/10/08 10:19 PM, SilentSoldier wrote: Oh my god the portal has been so slow for me the last couple of days. I swear to god, it used to seem like every time I log in, the flash potal only seems to have 2 or 3 flashes portal entries in UJ. Although now I am starting to notice that it's not just me and that the portal has been slowing down a lot since the new year began.

Yeah, it has been a bit slow. This morning I logged on to see ONE UJ Flash. I went into it and it had already passed judgment. =(

But after a while there were like 15.

And guess what I did?

Made Master Sergeant!!!

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 10th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/10/08 08:19 PM, Dead-Body-Man wrote: Do I honestly seem to be laughing. Garbage whistles are serious issues my good sir. So I take it that you never had one.

Naw, never had one. I actually got silver really fast before I even knew there WERE whistles, really. I just whistled a few stolen Flash ini the portal. I hear that doing that is 5 - 10 times more whistle points than reviews anyway. Plus, if you flag something as stolen and it passes, no foul. i fyou flag it and a lot of people flag it down, good chance it's stolen and you get points for it.

if it's a good flag because it's a questionable Flash, but it turns out that it WAS submitted by the owner, generally mods won't dock points for it since you were still being diligent.

Bad ways to flag Flash is by flagging things you don't like or don't really break rules. That's actually a great way to mess up your whistle.

Another great way: flagging from rage's gift on obvious alt accounts. Dangerous business...

Just flag obvious abuse. People calling others idiots in reviews or calling them gay. those are guaranteed points. And when you do find them, post them in rage's Gift and within an hour usually, they will be deleted.

Just be sure to read the whole review first.

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 10th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/10/08 06:39 PM, Dead-Body-Man wrote:
At 1/10/08 05:16 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote: All I can say is I love RSQViper's idea, and since the majority of people here agree, that's how it will be done, and from here on I put RSQViper in charge of making the XR system work. Of course all input from everyone is nice, but great work so far, Viper.
I agree, I like your idea also Viper. I think I'll have a problem with my garbage whistle though, I'm in some pretty deep shit when it comes to that.

Haha. I didn't know you guys had garbage whistles.

-20 pts!!!!

At 1/10/08 07:28 PM, life wrote: Errrr? The whole point of 'remaking' the ngdd system thing was to make it simpler...

It's just on the table right now. If you have something different I'm sure we'd all like to see it.

Or simplify the plan I set forward.

In any case I just want to see ideas from people if they have them. I came up with one that involves all aspects of NG since the NGDD covers the same.

I'm sure there are other ways in doing it, but I'm still waiting to see ideas from people that have detail and description.

The XR System I put forward is more of a reward system. Like having a higher score in Flash is better than just having a passing score. Higher whistles are higher as well and everything is based individually versus grouped together like it is now.

I don't think we should just settle on what I put up, either. I put it up for input not just 'yes/no' votes.

What do you all like about it? What do you all not like about it? What would you change with it? What do you want to keep the same?

Input please?

At 1/10/08 05:16 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote: All I can say is I love RSQViper's idea, and since the majority of people here agree, that's how it will be done, and from here on I put RSQViper in charge of making the XR system work. Of course all input from everyone is nice, but great work so far, Viper.

I'll put some more work into it Friday, Sat, Sun.

What I can do it some up with a few versions of it. A simplified version and this version except closer to a final draft with more thought put into the XR and how it's dished out.

Please, everyone keep in mind that I want input on it and any completely different ideas as well. the more EVERYONE brainstorms the better. I could care less if we don't use what I came up with as long as it's something better or more efficient. I really want Hybrid-of-Souls to look over it since he's the list keeper as well and it directly effects him.

The theme I was going for in the proposal was that you rank up in both your Dept and the NGDD. For your Dept, only dept specific XR matters. But, for the NGDD ranks it all matters.

Or we can simplify it down and just make one kind of rank using all of the XR types.

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 10th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/10/08 12:56 PM, NintendoMadness wrote:
At 1/9/08 11:13 PM, RSQViper wrote: Audio XR
These need to be adjusted because it's very easy to get a 4.00 score of higher, I'm not sure what to change the XR to though.

I agree since songs are so high in score. Probably keep the XR rewards, but adjust all the scores higher.

Portal XR
Garbage Whistle...-20XR
Normal Whistle.........0XR
Bronze Whistle.........5XR
Silver Whistle..........10XR
Gold Whistle............20XR
Deity Whistle...........40XR
Garbage Whistle...0XR
Normal Whistle.....5XR
Bronze Whislte.....10XR
Silver Whistle.......15XR
Gold Whistle.........25XR
Deity Whistle........40XR

My reasons for this are:
1) To get a Normal effort is needed, but you still havn't done anything BAD with your whistle.
2) Garbage is very bad if you are in it very deeply, so no XR will be rewarded, even if you're just on lip of Garbage to Normal becae ther's no way of telling where you are on your whistle points. Only some mods.

I understand the whole not knowing your whistle points thing, but people start with a normal whistle and then get them selves in trouble by needlessly flagging reviews and Flash to get a garbage. Since you start with a normal whistle you should get no points for it and I think a garbage whistle is an embarrassment and we should encourage people to not get it. By putting up a negative hit on it, NGDDers should avoid getting it entirely.

It sucks while you've got it, but I think it will also drive people to get OUT of a garbage if they were to get it.

Plus, it's really to that hard to get out of garbage whistle. I mean, it's easier than getting deity and a lot of people get deity. It just takes time and smart flagging is all.

This is the fun part of the NGDD redesign.

I agree.

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 10th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/10/08 03:38 AM, MrFinland wrote: RSQ, that's one hell of a list you got there buddy. Looks very good, I like it. For my suggestions I'd go something like a Master and Expert.
Too bad Journeyman doesn't fit well.

Nice ones, man.

I think Journeyman is also a good one.

I came up with a few more to toss around as well, so in no particular order:
Divine
Entrenched
Hearty
Hardened
Justified
Dignified
All-Seeing
Elevated
Distinguished
Learned
Powerful

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 10th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/10/08 12:29 AM, Cole wrote:
I love it! Come on guys, let's have some fun with this...I want everyone to come up with a name for a level. I'll go first for my position: All-Knowing Super Effing Awesome Planet-Devouring Leader Supreme Minister-Secretary of Defense.

LMAO. that is one hell of an adjective. I think shortening it to AKSEPDLSMSD would be... ok, awful.

But seriously, let's get some names out here because there should be about a lot of them for those ranks.

Response to: The Elite Guard Barracks Posted January 10th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

Well, after a great update for me stat-wise, looks like the next update wills ay something like "RSQViper Average Gain/loss -30.

Oh, well. Work is work and I'm back.

I was actually starting to go a little stir-crazy in the house, though so in a way it's nice to be back.

I got a little, teensy bit of B/P in today, though so that's good.

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 10th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/9/08 11:32 PM, aldlv wrote:
At 1/9/08 11:20 PM, RSQViper wrote: lot of thing about the NGDD, XR & stuff I don't need to repeat
your idea is pretty cool
you have my entire support on this

Thanks, man. Glad you like it.

At 1/9/08 11:59 PM, ShortMonkey wrote: RSQ... I like your idea. Complicated and a lot of reading though ;)

It may seem complicated, but it shouldn't be once it's ironed out. It obviously isn't perfect and XR can be shifted a bit in places. It's really just long.

What it boils down to is you get XR for each facet of NG. You also get 2 ranks. For Your dept rank, only Dept XR and time in the NGDD (forgot to add that earlier) affects rank (or if we go with appointed positions, that is how you get rank). For NGDD Ranks, your entire profile, your time in the NGDD and all NG achievements is how you get ranked.

Getting NGDD ranks using XR the way I have it, the more you do and more involved you are with NG and the NGDD, the higher your NGDD rank will be.

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 9th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

Well, sorry a little of the above post got messed-up, but it should still be readable.

Also, I forgot to add monthly XR needs to be added in as well. Each month should be 10XR, maybe even more.

If you leave the NGDD and return, you start over on the monthly XR scale (unless it's an excused absence, of course since Real life can get in the way of our lovely internet.).

Winning contests will also earn you XR. Different XR for each place and may be different for each contest and the size of the contest.

And when I'm talking about NGDD XR, the highest level needs to be something high. I'm talking like 10,000XR or even more. It needs to be something tough to get so long-term, you can still achieve it. there's not much worse that capping out on something and having nothing more to achieve.

Ok, that's enough for now. =)

I'm supposed to be working!
Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 9th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/9/08 08:40 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote: So instead of calling them XP, we instead would call them XR (experience ranks) because it's unique, and we're based around a ranking system. If you guys think it's stupid that's cool too haha.
We're also going to use the old name system that was installed, unless someone can think of something different I'll gladly replace these names.

XR is ok. When I suggested an XP system, the reason I did was because just about everyone on the internet is familiar with that term and also understands what it's about.

Rank XR XR per month
Private (probation) 0 0 (until full member)
Private 0-6 1
Private 1st Class 6-12 2
Corporal 12-20 3
Sergeant 20-33 5
Staff Sergeant 33-45 5
Master Sergeant 45-65 7

You figure there are going to be a hell of a lot of ways to rank up from contests and the such, but honestly I'm not too sure about my system. If someone else wants to work on a better system (as I'm not good with numbers at all) then you're welcome to, and post it to vote that would be awesome to. Sorry guys I know it sucks and it looks like I put shit effort, but it's tough taking everyone's ideas and trying to combine them. I apologize again.

Yeah, I think this needs major retooling. We all need to be able to get XR from things we do, from post count, Whistle levels, Flash submitted, Audio Submitted, Reviews, etc. As it look above it seems the only way to get XR is by being in the club so members that have been in the club longest will ALWAYS be a higher rank even if people who have been in for less time are more active on NG and in the NGDD. Also, if you look, you gain ranks faster as you go up. It only takes 2 months to go from Staff Sergeant to Master Sergeant, but a whole 6 to go from Private to Private 1st Class. So, that's upside-down.

I think this is where the rank structure and the way we earn XR needs retooling.

Also, we need more ranks.

Here's a quick idea to build on what I suggested before:

DEPARTMENTAL RANKS (highest to lowest. These are same as now.):
Probation (XR is N/A)
Private
Private First Class
Corporal
Sergeant
Staff Sergeant
Master Sergeant
Sergeant Major
Warrant Officer I
Warrant Officer II
Warrant Officer III
Warrant Officer IV
Warrant Officer V
Second Lieutenant
First Lieutenant
Captain
Major
Lieutenant Colonel
Colonel
Brigadier General
Major General
Lieutenant General
General
Department Head (Appointed)

For the Departmental Ranks, your XR is only from your department-specific XR. Ex: for the BBS, you gain XR from all BBS associated XR ONLY

I didn't add numbers above as the XR requirement for each dept should be different since some departments with gain less Dept-Specific XR. Reason-being: Portal dept will gain lots since so much is in Portal Dept, whereas BBS is only post count and that's the only way they would gain Dept XR.

NGDD RANKS (highest to lowest):
These ranks would be in front of your Departmental Rank. Ex: Intermediate Master Sergeant
(obviously these can change and there needs to be more if people have cool ideas for names. Just remember, they are adjectives.)
All-Knowing.........
Supreme..............
Elite.......................
Powerful..............
Advanced.............
Tireless................
Knowledgeable...
Intermediate........
Novice...................
Amateur...............
Beginner..............

The NGDD Ranks are gained with ALL XR combined. BBS+Flash+Portal+IA.

XR

BBS XR
Posts. For every 10 posts you gain 1XR.

Flash XR
Each Flash w/ Score 1.80 - 2.29.....3XR
Each Flash w/ Score 2.50 - 2.99.....5XR
Each Flash w/ Score 3.00 - 3.49...10XR
Each Flash w/ Score 3.50 - 3.99...20XR
Each Flash w/ Score 4.00 - 5.00...35XR
Daily 5th.....................................
........2XR
Daily 4th.....................................
........4XR
Daily 3rd.....................................
........6XR
Daily 2nd.....................................
.......8XR
Daily 1st.....................................
......10XR
Turd of the Week............................0XR
Underdog of the Week...................5XR
Review Crew Pick.........................25XR
Front Page....................................
...10XR
Weekly 5th.....................................
....5XR
Weekly 4th.....................................
..10XR
Weekly 3rd.....................................
..15XR
Weekly 2nd.....................................
..20XR
Weekly 1st.....................................
...25XR
For TOTW, no XR can be gained regardless of awards (like a TOTW that gets UDOW will still be 0XR)

Audio XR
Each Song w/ Score 1.80 - 2.29.....3XR
Each Song w/ Score 2.50 - 2.99.....5XR
Each Song w/ Score 3.00 - 3.49...10XR
Each Song w/ Score 3.50 - 3.99...20XR
Each Song w/ Score 4.00 - 5.00...35XR

Portal XR
Reviews....................1XR for every 10 reviews
B/P..............................1XR for every 50 B/P
Garbage Whistle...-20XR
Normal Whistle.........0XR
Bronze Whistle.........5XR
Silver Whistle..........10XR
Gold Whistle............20XR
Deity Whistle...........40XR

Internal Affairs
Runs a Contest.................................
.........25XR
Assists Running a Contest.....................10XR
Creates an NGDD List.................................5XR
Refers an accepted member to NGDD....5XR

----------------------------------

Ok, I think that's it. I'd love to hear input on the above idea. Also, more names for the NGDD ranks would be nice since there should be many of those ranks as well. Any ideas for different ways to earn XR or maybe scaling what is mentioned above as I'm sure there's plenty to adjust, add, subtract.

Another idea would to make the Dept Ranks Appointed Ranks only. The Dept Head would appoint people to the ranks and the NGDD XR achieved rank would proceed their name. So, you could be an Advanced Captain if appointed to Captain rank. If we go with that idea, we would need less ranks for each department. Probably 10-15 ranks in each dept.

Whew! That was a lot.

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 9th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/9/08 05:19 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote: And thirdly, with luck I should have the ranking system up by about 8 p.m.

The proposal for it or a final one? As far as I knew we all hadn't decided on how it was going to work and life had that warning about the XP thing, but then he never went into detail about it so maybe it was no big deal, but who knows.

Also, I'm at work so my input may be minimal unless things are slow today (which is also possible).

I'll keep an eye out for that ranking idea, though. I'm interested in seeing it.

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 9th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/9/08 07:53 AM, JarrodK wrote: I left a comment on the NGDD blog about 3 days ago and nobody noticed. Maybe it is dead already? Well, I never expected much from this club.

That profile isn't for chatting, but for posting updates and such. Don't expect people to reply to much there as that isn't what it's for at all.

Plus your comment was retarded.

At 1/8/08 11:10 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote: Oh yea, I'd just like to bring up the fact that WastedWizard won't be with us for a really long time. Nothing big, but I'm not going to bring up why or anything because that's not my place. But I was in contact with him for a while and unfortunately we'll be without him. So I don't know what we do with him, honorable discharge, freeze his position...I really don't know but I refuse to let him be dishonorably discharged.

Yeah, he got a hold of me, too. he's gone for a good reason ad it's out of his hand. Because of that it makes sense that he's still in the group until his return (since he WILL return).

Response to: Zeebarf - Song of the Year! Posted January 8th, 2008 in NG News

At 1/7/08 10:18 AM, BlueHippo wrote: Alright! Zeebarf is at #1 right now :) Once again Newgrounds shall prove itsself the king of mass voting ;D

Not only is it #1, i's #1 my a mile. It has at least 2X the votes as #2.

now... I'd really like to listen to the song... but with a name of "fuck the shit" i somehow doubt it's work safe, eh.

Yeah, I'll say. Seeing as the only 3 words in the entire song are 'shit," "fuck," and "the" I think it's reasonable to say it's NSFW.

Unless you want to get fired.

As for the song, I actually heard it a few moths ago. The song is ok, but that video here on NG is friggin' lame.

Anyway, I voted for them on the site. Tom told me to.

Response to: The Elite Guard Barracks Posted January 8th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/8/08 09:47 AM, PantyWipe wrote: Hey groovy, I just noticed yesterday I got promoted to a Master Sergeant.

Awesome, man. Congrats on the rank up. I'm actually nearing that goal, myself.

Oh, and since I forgot earlier, welcome to the barracks!

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 8th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/8/08 02:53 AM, ReconRebel wrote: It was a suggestion APF. If you want me to split just say the word.

Ack. No. Not allowed. =(

I think he was just trying to stress how much he didn't like the idea. Everyone is going to be throwing up opinions and thanks to the internet none of us will know what tone they are speaking with.

Let's all stick with the saying "cool heads with hot bodies" so we can keep our ultimate sexiness. *flex*

At 1/8/08 03:51 AM, deslona wrote: So if anyone else wants to play with this gif be my guest :)

I wouldn't know what to do for a bot, but if you check out aldlv's profile and look at his banner, I really like his. You can see he used the Sup Commander Tank and some Flash icons.

If you ask me, it's super-sexy.

Also, I was working on a different NGDD Profile Pic using the Seal on the NGDD profile page. I was going to animate it, but for the life of me I can't remember how to do it properly. But, it was also 3am, so maybe that had something to do with it.

Anyway, I had some scripts pop into my head today so I'll be writing for a while. Got a good idea for another Bytesize, too. =)

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 8th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/8/08 12:14 AM, deslona wrote:
At 1/7/08 11:24 PM, ShortMonkey wrote: Are we going to have a minimum amount of posts to join the NGDD or a minimum amount of posts to only join the BBS department? Phantom used to let in people into other departments if they qualified for it, even if the user only had like 5 posts...
I think that new members should have some 'track record' to stand by. I do not feel comfortable with somebody's alt account becoming a member - I couldn't care less who it is. No alts should be allowed. If you cannot join at face value don't join at all.

I get the whole track record thing, but at the same time that is also why people go into the probation period. That's when they get observed.

Of course, it's always nice to see some background. People that sign up that day and have 0 posts, 0 reviews should of course be encouraged to get moving a bit, but also be encouraged to post here in this thread.

The only people that should be turned away from the NGDD are bad apples.

We should remember - the post count isn't a magic number that you have to get to join. It is meant so we can judge if a new potential member to join can, based on his attitude and conduct. Simply put - the more post someone has the more we can know about them.

Yes it certainly helps, but you'd be surprised how built-up some alts can be.

In any case we need to find a fine line. I think 100 is a bit high and 25 is a good mark. Obviously if over a few days/weeks someone has made 25 or more posts and they are all or mostly high quality, chance is we're dealing with a sincere member. Plus, if someone were to really want to infiltrate the NGDD for whatever reason, we would never know anyway. People are too smart and the internet is too anonymous to really know.

Well, I'm about to leave work now. I feel like ass all of a sudden. Stomach bug or something. Ick. =(

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 8th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/7/08 11:24 PM, ShortMonkey wrote: Are we going to have a minimum amount of posts to join the NGDD or a minimum amount of posts to only join the BBS department? Phantom used to let in people into other departments if they qualified for it, even if the user only had like 5 posts...

Well, that is still up for discussion, I would imagine.

Obviously, though, everyone joining this club is going to post here as it's also their duty. My personal recommendation would be to not have a post count requirement outside the BBS Dept, but require a Dept Head to do a post quality scan on what posts they have. If their posts are fine and they only have, 5 or even none, fine. They go into probation like any other pledger. But, if their posts are crap, they need to start making quality posts to join.

Response to: The Elite Guard Barracks Posted January 7th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/7/08 10:28 PM, Sterockicy wrote: Barracks roster - January 8, 2008

Thanks!

Top 5 Gainers:

PenguinLink - 576
aldlv - 411
AnalPenguinFarming - 395
bifgis - 374
Seamonky - 316

Wow, I barely missed being here for the first time.

Top 3 biggest average rises: RSQViper + 40.1, SilentSoldier + 37.4, Sterockicy + 21.3!

But, I made it here!

Random word: Dodecahedron!

Mmm... polygons....

24 // 07013 // New // New // New // PantyWipe
25 // 06957 // 301 // 43.0 // 40.1+ // RSQViper
26 // 06558 // 000 // 00.0 // 03.4- // PossiblePancakes

Yay! Passed by a new EGBer! (again)

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 7th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/7/08 02:57 PM, aldlv wrote:
At 1/7/08 02:44 PM, NintendoMadness wrote:
At 1/7/08 09:32 AM, RSQViper wrote: 1,000 posts to join the NGDD? That is way too many, I think. This is not an elite club since we have our hands in everything NG-related.
Well, look at me for example. I've got around 1,000 posts, and I think we've just about been able to post in this club responcibly. The post count should be raised to 1,000 to erracdicate the new NG'ers whicha re n00bs.
Are you telling me noob?????

post is the only thing you have more than me...

Exactly my point. aldlv is a model NGer and he has 1/2 of 1,000 posts. He's been nothing but an asset to this group and had he joined NG a month from now with a 1,000 post threshhold he wouldn't be here. Declaring that we only accept people with 1,000 posts is elitist. We definitely are not an elitist group. This group is about quality and it isn't about quantity, folks, it's about quality. A promising new person can and should be able to qualify for NGDD duty. They certainly won't be a high level in the NGDD, but to turn people away based on post count is wrong. It shouldn't take 1,000 just to be a part of the NGDD BBS department.

Heck, when it comes to me I didn't even start posting until I joined a club. The 8th post I made was, guess what? Joining this club. It didn't make me a bad member. In fact, what it did, was get me to know NG the best way possible and along side the best people possible.

We should accept new people. New people aren't bad people, just inexperienced. You have to start somewhere and this, the NGDD, is a GREAT place for a new person to start. NGDD should be about training and building, plus we will still have the probation period in affect. That will weed out people that aren't serious about the NGDD and don't uphold our moral obligations.

We want this group to grow. Making extremely high goals like 1,000 posts will make us stagnate in growth. It's also an odd thing to have people agree on one Flash submitted to join Flash Dept (which I like) but 1,000 posts for BBS Dept.

Anyway, that's my thoughts on the matter.

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 7th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/7/08 12:56 PM, Odyssic wrote: Sorry everyone for not posting, been busy with school but I going to post more now.

You will never be forgiven for your treachery. Your image will burn in our minds with thoughts of retribution for all of eternity or until your very soul is wiped from existence. You will never feel happiness again. Your only comfort in life will be the glass-ridden mattress that you will lie upon after severe beatings with iron pipes spikes with carpenter nails.

You will soon beg for...

Ah, what the hell. You're my portal buddy. Welcome back!

We finally got a userpage, also great Banner and Display picture. What next?

The continuation of the revamp. Probably a lot of work on how ranking will work, I would imagine.

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 7th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/6/08 11:21 PM, life wrote: How does this look for now guys? http://ngdd.newgrounds.com/

Looks good, but maybe have a link to this thread in the main post somewhere so people can just come here from there if they somehow come across the user first?

Also, I like that seal at the bottom. But, I also like the seal aldlv has on his banner.

At 1/6/08 11:36 PM, ShortMonkey wrote: Looks great. Reckon you could put this link into the post:

http://ngdod.forumcircle.com/viewforum.p hp?f=1&

That forum is getting closed down once the NGDD revamp is complete.

At 1/7/08 12:09 AM, ReconRebel wrote:
At 1/6/08 12:44 AM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote: 8.) When it comes to admitting people for having 100 decent posts, there's no point.
Somewhere in this world a post whore is crying. AGREED!!! With the speed in which new users are increasing their post count, I'd put the minimum at 1,000 quality posts. It's not that difficult to recognize spam from an honest attempt.

1,000 posts to join the NGDD? That is way too many, I think. This is not an elite club since we have our hands in everything NG-related. I think one of the greatest things we can do is have our doors open to people that are new to Newgrounds.

Agreed. I say the first order of business is to ostracize the Kitty Krew. **laces up steel toe boot** :)

Oh, I like your thinking here.

At 1/6/08 12:52 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote: Portal Department:
Requirements: 100 b/ps OR bronze whistle OR 10 good reviews. But a mix of all three is most recommended, and will increase chances of getting in.
Way too easy for a new user to accomplish, even in all three categories. The bar should be raised higher but that's just my opinion.

Once again I think this is a god thing. Keep the bar low so newer NGers can come into the NGDD. There's no better time to get involved with an organization with good morals than when you're new.

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 6th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/6/08 08:47 PM, ShortMonkey wrote: RSQ, looks ok but not fantastic and kind of... weird. We need a mascot. Maybe a soldier or policeman with an NG uniform?

This guy is wearing camouflage if you look.

And a police uniform would be kinda weird. We aren't the NGPD.

In any case, I'm not too interested in doing line work for someone else to color. If you're up to it, make another version using your ideas and we'll see what people think.

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 6th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/6/08 07:16 PM, deslona wrote:
At 1/6/08 01:49 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote: Alright everyone, this is the NGDD user we'll be using to post all of our information that we need to that was on our exterior forum (as soon as I get the password we'll start working on it right away...).
I would like to float another idea for this account. If a member makes a flash THAT CONTRIBUTES OR USES NG-DOD MATERIAL it can be added as an co-author.

I was actually thinking somewhat the same thing. But ONLY if it has to do wit hit. If someone starts just adding NGDD to authors then htey need to be reprimanded.

At 1/6/08 02:21 PM, RSQViper wrote: I found that the other day.

Tell ya what. I'll work on a nice banner and personal pic for it so it doesn't look so plain. Once you get the password if you like them you can drop them in.
Cool stuff!

It's actually done. Check it out.

Newground's Department of defense.

Response to: Newground's Department of defense. Posted January 6th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/6/08 05:04 PM, Cole wrote:
At 1/6/08 03:31 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote: Internal Affairs Department:
Requirements: A b/p rank of Private or higher, must have been a member of the NGDD for at least 2 months in a different department, and must request to be in
I think that IA should have a posting requirement rather than a portal one...something like 1,000 good posts? Make IA an achievement, but more for BBS. Besides...acoording to this, I can no longer be in IA lol.

What about not making it one or the other? How about an either/or situation? Or have one major requirement from each department. For a BBSer to go IA = 1,000 posts. For a Portal guy = 2,500 B/P or even a review or Deity Whistle requirement. For Flash or Audio, at least 5 quality entries with a BA of 3.50 or higher.

Response to: The Top 100 Reviewers List Posted January 6th, 2008 in Where is / How to?

At 1/6/08 04:31 PM, Auz wrote:
At 1/3/08 01:30 PM, RSQViper wrote: Also, when updating this week I may be on this list. Or at least very close.
Yep, you´re on. Welcome to the list =)

Thanks a lot. Nice to be here.

Thanks for the update as well. I swear, I don't know how some of you do this week in and week out.

Response to: Wi/Ht? level up! Lounge Posted January 6th, 2008 in Where is / How to?

I just hit 700 reviews! Sweet!

Also, I passed 6,000XP

Also, passed into the top 600 B/Pers.

Lots in one day!

Response to: The Elite Guard Barracks Posted January 6th, 2008 in Clubs & Crews

At 1/6/08 02:43 PM, Cericon wrote: Mind if I ask what you guys actually do? I might be interested in joining.

Protecting the portal. Getting blams and saves voting on Under Judgment Flash.

Unfortunately for you the requirement is 2,500 Blams/Saves and you are quite a ways from that.

I would suggest the New Grounds Department of Defense and the NGPD.