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At 8/15/08 08:44 PM, Dsmano wrote:

At 8/15/08 08:43 PM, qStik wrote: Anyone with half a brain already knows this. Anyone else is an idiot who deserves to live in fear.

The problem with people with half a brain is that they look too far into these things and come to horrific and unthinkable conclusions.

Nope, the chain of logical conclusions would lead to what you just said in one long rant in about five seconds, and that would be the end of that.

Anyone with half a brain already knows this. Anyone else is an idiot who deserves to live in fear.

At 8/11/08 08:48 PM, LordJaric wrote:

At 8/11/08 08:41 PM, qStik wrote:

6. Russia now has another three satellites and Georgia does not join the NATO, thus the Russian southern border is secure.

Not quite

Kazahstan is not a valid threat since it's a Russian Ally, China, as we all know doesn't plan to join the NATO in the next... oh... say... 200 years, and do i even need to discuss the Military capability of MONGOLIA?

I stand by my words.

Also, a fun fact, for those interested (i think i read someone talk about the size of Russia):
Russia has slightly more territory than the whole surface of Pluto.

At 8/11/08 08:23 PM, Korriken wrote: This was a great opportunity for russia to take territory. I'll predict the future.

1. the capital falls.

2. Georgia's president will be captured.

3. he will be put on a sham trial for genocide.

4. he will be found guilty and executed in public.

5. Russia will pretty much keep Georgia claiming to be there to stabilize and rebuild, they will never leave and eventually use mass propaganda to brain wash the people into voting to be part of russia.

Putin knows the American army is stretched. he knows that bush has little influence. He is using this opportunity to get his hands on more territory. To take on Russia, America would have to withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan.

This is pretty much the end of Georgia, or the beginning of WW3, or both.

And here's what i see happening.

1. The Capital falls.

2. The President is Captured.

3. He is put on a sham trial, released after a few years, when he becomes politically unimportant.

4. A Pro-Russian government is put to power in Georgia.

5. South Ossetia and Abkhazia hold a referendum and secede, both having Pro-Russian Governments.

6. Russia now has another three satellites and Georgia does not join the NATO, thus the Russian southern border is secure.

7. Everyone is happy. Except the West. They are sad. And most Georgians are sad. But what can you do, that's life. You can't always get what you want.

No WWIII because, it's simply, no offense to our Georgian friends, not worth it.

At 8/9/08 08:31 PM, Phobotech wrote: What the hell would Russian need with Ossetia? What tactical or economic advantage could they gain, or is this mainly just a political attack to Georgian Allies and something to stave attention to the Olympics?

What's China or the US doing about all of this?

What can they do, short of starting a thermonuclear war?

At 8/9/08 01:55 PM, BuddhaGeo wrote: It's 22:00 here. Just the time other cities were bombed.

Waiting

Just so we know, since most sources are either dated or biased, who is in control of Tskhinvali right now?

And, have the Russians started bombing Tbilisi or are they still just bombing the outskirts of the city?

As much as i think that winning Olympic medals is important to the people of china, (as a morale booster, isn't that what sports generally are?) i don't think that any Chinese politician can see the Olympics as anything more than just that. I don't think anyone who isn't a sports fan can give importance to such a... simply put, show.

Because, lets be serious, anyone who isn't a fan, and isn't boycotting the Olympics for some more or less trivial reason (Seriously 2 million MONKS? come on now) will only see the spectacular opening ceremony which is just a PR stunt.

And that's all the Olympics are. A PR stunt.

As for that whole the-more-medals-the-more-likely-the-down fall thing, i think that its just silly, because winning the medals, only depends on how much money you want to invest in your team.

Sure the Chinese might win more medals than the US, but seriously, who important gives a damn?

The Chinese? Yeah, some of them do. And that's it.

But there is one thing i can guarantee, public opinion of china throughout the world after this event can only rise whoever wins. Is that a good thing? I don't really know. Sorta?

At 8/8/08 09:33 PM, animehater wrote:

At 8/8/08 09:30 PM, qStik wrote: Umm... why not?

Umm.... why so?

JUSITCE!!!!

Seriosly, though...
One rule should apply to everyone, i guess.

Or not... if one rule doesn't apply to everyone, then the next automatic rule, is the rule of might.

In both cases... Russia wins.

Bet the war is over by monday?

At 8/8/08 08:56 PM, animehater wrote: Nevertheless what happened to Kosovo doesn't give Russia the right to support Separatists in Georgia.

Umm... why not?

At 8/8/08 08:49 PM, animehater wrote:

At 8/8/08 08:47 PM, qStik wrote: Shit happens.

And this looks like some shit in need of cleaning.

Not really, this shit balances out the universe.

Karma n' stuff, y'know...

At 8/8/08 08:41 PM, animehater wrote:

At 8/8/08 08:20 PM, qStik wrote: *Cough* Kosovo *Cough*

I didn't like the Western support for Kosovo either but this is a conflict that is currently going on right now.

Well, Kosovo set a precedent for other wannabe republics, so here is the (almost) direct consequence of what happened this February (and to a certain extent in the war in 1999).

Shit happens.

At 8/8/08 08:01 PM, animehater wrote:

At 8/8/08 07:33 PM, adrshepard wrote: Somehow, there is some sort of double standard being applied in that Russia's defense of an ally is called imperialism

South Ossetia is more of a Puppet than an ally.

While Georgia's attempt to reconquer a de facto independent state is totally ignored.

Key word de facto, It's Legally still a part of Georgia. This is a Georgian issue and Russia instead of butting out of it decided to become extremely close with these separatists and put themselves into the conflict.

*Cough* Kosovo *Cough*

Come on now, if NATO can make a new country, so can the Sovi... i mean Russia. Those are the rules of the game, so don't bitch about it too much.

At 8/6/08 04:45 PM, PineappleWinnie wrote:

At 8/6/08 04:29 PM, qStik wrote:

Tell me now, do you HONESTLY belive, that if Obama wins, women will be forced to wear veils, and america will become an extremist fundamentalist Muslim State?

HONESTLY?

I am not saying that Obama himself will do this. I am not saying that Obama will go mad and wacko like that. But he may lead politics that may weaken the USA (in a wide-sense) to the point where Islam can actually stand a chance. He might go soft on Muslims, and even somewhat promote Islam in a very subtle way, making more people to either convert to Islam (ads, mosques, etc), or make it easier for those abroad to come in. It would be then these folks, several years in the future, who may actually make Islam stronger and stronger within the USA. Its not what Obama himself will do as a President, but the many subtle doors he may open that don't really convince me. He can make it easy for Islam to get through. This itself shoult not be an issue, but it sadly is, as Muslims consider that they need to conquer the West (which is represented by the USA and Europe).

Ah, those irrational fears...

Extremism in any religion is mostly present in the less educated, and poorer parts of the population, which is, in most Islamic countries, a majority. But, as time passes, and countries develop, this extreme view of Religion dissipates. If you give your "Muslim World Domination" theory to a well educated Muslim man, he would probably laugh and give you a sarcastic "Yeah..."

Now, how this ties into the story: By the time any Islamic state can pose a real threat to America (except terrorism, but your FBI seems to be in control of that) , they will probably become developed and influenced by the west, alot like Jordan and Saudi Arabia (who, even though having questionable human rights, is a trading ally of the US, and a country that would never even think world domination is a viable political scenario) , countries where Fundamentalism still exists, but is not the prevalent political opinion, due to the increasing life standard.

So, in twenty years, when Islam (Hypothetically) reaches the US, it will be a lot like Christianity, a relic of the past slowly being destroyed by education, and better life standards.

Sleep easy, my friend, for you are safe.

At 8/6/08 03:55 PM, JimboBoy wrote:

At 8/6/08 03:38 PM, Jackrabbit-slims wrote:

At 8/6/08 03:32 PM, PineappleWinnie wrote: Synopsis: Muslims worldwide may eventually see Barack Obama as their man.

Ok, so then what?

That if the USA indeed becomes the helper of Islamic ambitions (Obama or not), then we better hope that the USA itself gets weak quickly, allowing Russia or China to become the World Superpower. I'm not about to teach my children about the Quran or that women need to wear veils or else beat the crap out of them.

Tell me now, do you HONESTLY belive, that if Obama wins, women will be forced to wear veils, and america will become an extremist fundamentalist Muslim State?

HONESTLY?

Serbian, English, German, Croatian, Bosnian, Macedonian, and i understand a bit of Slovenian.

Civil War FTW!

Im sad the imaginary sniper didn't put one through her head. Would save the world a lot of trouble.

Erm... this is a tough one... well from what i heard the girl mentioned was on a mental level of a three-month year old, which would be a little smarter than a dog... (she responded to affection and smiled from time to time), she was also going through excruciating pain.

Now, if she was a dog, what would be done to her?

Now, the only problem in this story is that she isnt a dog but a human being, allthough incomplete, one that has basic rights of a human being (in your flawed system at least).

So what i belive should of been done in this paticular case, was to charge the man, put him in jail for a few months and then let him out on parole. Remember, the girl was going through hell.

But on the subject of assisted suicide and euthanasia, if the law was passed, and of course properly put into practice by havin experts deduce the necessity of euthanasia, also listening to the wish of the family (and in the end obeying it), it would be completley okay in my book.

But now another problem that arises is, of course, the enemy of us all, the unmentionable ones, THE HUMAN RIGHT GROUPS. Take a second to recoil from my mentioning their evil name.

Now, they would be on this law faster then a pyrhana on a baby swiming in the amazon. They would tear it apart, destroying half the US judicial system with it. So, while this law is morally passable, realisticly, it cannot exist in this universe.

I don't know why you're talking about the last depression when you have a new one on the way...

I'll bet three e-cookies that the price of oil hits 120$ a barrel by the end of the month. Anyone?

At 3/15/08 11:31 AM, Zeistro wrote:

At 3/15/08 09:01 AM, kahncccp wrote: He was a master of Guerrilla Warfare, a great leader, and a hero.

Che Guevara was a mass murderer, you stupid cunt.

http://www.therealcuba.com/MurderedbyChe .htm

If he was such a master of guerilla warfare why was it he was captured at Quebrada del Yuro and hysterical at his own execution like alittle bitch? I guess you're what Lenin would call a "useful idiot."

Nowadays every great person is a mass murderer...
He's not great, but he has a sweet name, was a guerrilla revolutionary soldier, and had a pretty nice haircut.
He was, what kids would call these days, cool.

At 3/15/08 04:16 PM, zoolrule wrote: The Arabs are saints.

And finally he get's the hang of it.

Seriously though, it's impossible to hate a society as a whole. It's hard to hate 300 million people. Even if 200 million are idiots who know nothing about anything.
I do hate america as an entity though. It's because of its imperialistic world policing neverchanging government policies.

I give you freedom, and take your house, family and life. Enjoy your freedom.

At 3/11/08 01:17 PM, simple-but-sandy wrote: I'm all for the eternal oppression of criminals.

As, in my opinion, people never change.

That's a very depressing and sad view on life.

People do change, but pedophiles are not people, so they should be hunted down and killed in most gruesome ways.

Just my two cents...

I have done you the honor of watching the video and am now sure that ANY medical foundation would be ready to treat you for free.

You know, if you state your case to a well known newspaper like times, im sure they'l pay for your medications and treatment.

At 3/9/08 05:46 PM, arcansi wrote: What i think is funny though is that they Israelis built the pyramids (yes they were slaves of Egypt, so THEY actually built the pyramids.). They were thrown out, lived in the wilderness for 40 years, found some place that nobody wanted and made it a great country. But i see no reason to feel sorry for the Palestinians, they're a brutal country just like Afganistan and Iraq.

Again with the enlightenment, your arguments beat mine and zoolrule's flat out.

You sir, took teh win again.

At 3/9/08 04:51 PM, arcansi wrote: Israelis also invented the uzi and the rpg, so that makes them awesome.

Uzi sucks, RPG too.

You sir, just lost the win.

At 3/9/08 04:49 PM, zoolrule wrote:

And if this 6th strongest millitary in the world, lost the support of the US and its allies, how long would it last on the cruel sand of the middle east?

I am also not saying Palestinians are good, im just saying Israelis are not much better.

why would they lose the support? and i'm not saying the Palestinian people are bad, i just believe that they are being lied to, from many Arabic countries and interest, especially the Hamas, the Hamasers claim that they are defenders.. ph, defenders my ass.

Im just saying, that even though they are the 6th strongest millitary force in the world, if they went too far in doing whatever the hell they want, the could lose US support, an be pwned by the angry angry muslims.

Almost every political organisation in the middle east goes from criminal, over terrorist, into legal political. Right now the Hamas are balancing themselves on the line between the terrorist and political, and by doing so putting the palestinian people through many hardships.

And Israel is, by responding to every rocket attack with a full blown war, pulling Hamas back to being terrorist, instead of pushing them to become more of a passive political entity.

At 3/9/08 04:30 PM, arcansi wrote: Israel is awesome fool! They've got military technology that is almost better than the US. And theyre the only decent county in the middle east. That counts for something right? They're one of the oldest countries and they pwned the muslims everytime they attacked Israel.

A truly enlightened view on the situation.

You sir, win.

At 3/9/08 04:13 PM, zoolrule wrote:

At 3/9/08 03:47 PM, qStik wrote: Although I do belive Israel has the right to exist, I do not belive that that right includes the right to kill everything that is in a 300km radius of their borders and not israeli.

I mean seriously. They have some superiority complex, doing whatever the hell they want.

if the 6th strongest military in the world would do what ever it want, the situation would be far far far diffrent, the opinion on Israel really makes me sad, especially because its simply not true, and very far from the truth.
"I'd Rather Be Hated For Who I Am Than Loved For Who I'm Not" Apparently the Palestinian don't really connect to this phrase. because they are, more than anyone, are loved for what they are not.

And if this 6th strongest millitary in the world, lost the support of the US and its allies, how long would it last on the cruel sand of the middle east?

I am also not saying Palestinians are good, im just saying Israelis are not much better.

Although I do belive Israel has the right to exist, I do not belive that that right includes the right to kill everything that is in a 300km radius of their borders and not israeli.

I mean seriously. They have some superiority complex, doing whatever the hell they want. They flew over Beirut two months after the July War ceasefire (in which they completly ignored any of the UN's protests), just to scare the Lebanesse.

They're like a jewish mother, obsessivly protecting their country by bullying the middle east.