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At 4/14/09 06:58 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

Evolution will always be a theory no matter what we discover, because it isn't univerally aplicable.

Only then do concepts become laws.

Ofcourse if they found undenyable evidence specificly proving that an animal can change into something completely different, but I wouldn't put any amount of faith into that since it'll never happen.
But monkey, are you also saying that no matter how much evidence/proof er whatever, that the existance of God will alwasy be what it is? What if God were proven to exist, would you bow your stupid head n kiss his feet or would you defy him n try to fight like you've been doing?
At 16 years old I'd say you definetely have the lack of expreience with God to ever deny him at all, you just listen to those old miserable farts who hate themselves, but ah well its your funeral.

At 4/14/09 03:03 AM, SolInvictus wrote:

At 4/14/09 02:21 AM, MattTheParanoidKat wrote: Ugggh, an Atheist is a person who doesn't believe in God. Nothing more or less. It's that simple.

atheist; a: without, theism: belief in God. the term atheist refers to one without God which includes both the lack of belief in God as well as the belief that there is no god.

"Belief" so atheism is in fact a religion eh?
This takes me back the the atheist's broken record of saying "there is no God, science proves it, only smart people don't believe in God." And now people are ging back n saying the exact oposite, this is the circular load of crap that leads me to question the existance of intelligence at all, er at least for people who claim to be intelligent yet admit to not knowing something n making upfront determinations without taking the time to verify anything = atheism (a lack of belief/evidence/proof) makes you wonder if atheists have EVEr actually gone out n looked, I'd have to say no since theyre so pumped with this way of their teachers talking out the other side of their mouths, lieing, but those lies are already cemented into their minds n as I said it will take more than a lead pipe to the head to fix it.

"Atheism is the philosophical position that deities do not exist, or that rejects theism. In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities."

Yet atheism seems to have taken a rather agressive stance of religion with it's being a religion itself, you can't say your religion is better without having significant proof, whereas with atheism there is none, just a lack of personal experience, atheists have never experienced God or any devine presence, and that doesn't mean no one has, atheism is pretty much the denial/ignorance/doubt of things that have happened around them, for example.

I was inMadison Wisconsin with my 2nd olest brother n his freind n we had just gotten back from dropping somone off at a bookstore, we were getting ready to get out of the car and I saw that my brother's freind wasn't getting out of the car and I felt something tugging at me to not get out of the car either, and I didn't understand why, then after a few seconds I found out why, a huge garbage truck roared past n brushed up against the car smashing the side mirror clear off, true story, if I had gotten out of the car I'd surely have been killed, my explanation is that a devine presence hinted me what to do/not do.
An atheist would go on the defensive n say that it didn't happen, they would even deny the entire scenario as well as the presence I believe to have felt. So the lack of ever having or noticing something like that is likely what leads somone to deny it entirely, and jealousy leads to them refusing to believe it happened to anyone else.

Maybe that is why atheists have this "DESTROY RELIGION!" point of view, they've never swallowed their pride n obtained their faith/proof/evidence/experience, they only sit on the sidelines watching as people praise God for the good he does for them, n shout obceneties at the people from time to time to try n discourage them as they sit there pouting like children.

/bows, thank you.

Hopefully this generation is just as stupid n violent as the last n the last ones before them ect, the inevitable decline of the human DNA will surely be the cause of judgement day when people become too stupid to eat or move around on their own, but in the meantime lets enjoy our technology feeding us n doing everything for us...

At 3/15/09 10:47 AM, poxpower wrote:

I never claim they don't exist, I just say no one has the necessary evidence to say it does.

That is exactly what you have been saying many times, I could go back n look at your bbs posts n find a crap load of times you've said "god doesn't exist".

So shut up.

At 3/14/09 08:04 AM, RubberTrucky wrote:

At 3/14/09 05:11 AM, StephanosGnomon wrote:

Like said before, maybe even ou sense of purpose is purely coincidental and is a signal of our brains to show we're alive. If a human being is nothing more then an interaction of elementary particles, all of our feelings are nothing else then a marker turning blue when another chemical is added. We're nothing more than a bunch of reactions to stimuli, with a fake 'sense' of free will.

Het Rubber, lets say I have a gun to your head and you have no way to defend or stop be from shooting you, if I have no free will, wtf can possibly stop me from blowing your brains out your skull?
Also, lets say I put the gun away and you have a chance to run for your life, whats stopping you from trying to fight n potentially kill me?
Now lets say you run, whats stopping me from chasing you down n beating you to death with a metal pipe?

You may say the threat os a punishment is whats stopping us, but if we have no free will, how can any punishment be able to stop us once our minds are set?

Its not a punishment that stops us, its our own nature, hopefully everyone has felt it at one time, the way we were created is what drives us to do good things n not bad, n when we do bad things we have the tendancy to punish ourselves, no need for somone else to punish us (hint, guy shoots up a school or work place then shoots himself)

Also, the FDA n drug companies bank on that idea that we were created from chemicals n if theres somthing wrong we need to add more, which doesn't work out in any longterm.

At 3/15/09 08:42 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 3/15/09 08:27 PM, Eggys wrote: Hate cannot exist without love.

I hate, and yet I don't even believe in love, let alone love. Doesn't my very existence prove this wrong?

Its because you're lieing, you have love in you always, if you didn't then you would've killed yourself a long time ago, you only say you only have hate in you because you're expecting people to help n give you sympathy, but this world can be pretty cruel so I'm sure you are either doing so just for attention, or you're trying to prove something that you simply will never prove.

You don't believe in love huh? Well maybe you just don't know what love it, maybe you don't comprehend the word with the actual meaning, as I said love can be misrepresented in a shit load of ways which would make people question its meaning when its not even that which is in question.

So Funk, answer me this question, why haven't you killed yourself?

At 3/15/09 06:09 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: The world exists through hate.

Does not, hate as we now it only destroys things and you have nothing that can prove or give any kind of rational explanation for that claim.

Hate as you know it is nothing more than an emotion, as any emotion it carries an energy, and that energy can be used in a wide variety of ways.

So we're made up of energy and possibly everything we can see n detect with our senses it made up of energy also.

You say the world exists through hate? Then how the fuck are we alive right now, if you really hated yourself as much as you believe others to hate you, you would've killed yourself or have been killed by now, so no, nothing can exist for very long when its hated.

Love is what I'd say the world exists through, pure love, its the only glue that holds our fragile planet together, surely you don't think we would last 10 seconds if everyone who hated eachother took a nuclear bomb n chucked it at eachother.
Surely we wouldn't survive if it wasn't for our love of the planet we call home, the plants n animals that we live on, you think hate could allow us to keep them alive n not simply kill them all out of hate?

Fuck hate.

If God hated us.....we wouldn't even exist, funny how he allows us to choose how we want to feel n act, though some people do unimaginably evil things out of hate.
I didn't want to bring God into this lol, we have yet to see hate do anything more than destroy, and love has yet to show any sign of a length to it's strength and power, and the word live is tossed around alot, and many things that were supposed to have been done out of love have been done out of things like lust,greed, and even hate.
What mysterious creatures we humans are, no matter how evil some of us become there will always be good that will overcome it.

So I say bring it the fuck on, hate, I'll be waiting to kick your ass.

Wouldn't it be something if the world was like it used to be?

I mean what if the American government treated homosexuals like they treated native americans?

Dude, not saying old ways like that would ever be any good, just saying if we went back to the times where we couldn't aford to have all this luxury shit, there probably wouldn't be any gay,emo,ect,ect people at all, n if there were they'd be shamed out of society.

"back in our time we didn't have any of these fancy stereos n ur microwave ovens n ur artificial insemination n ur hoola hoops n lilipops n hopscotch n your leather pants n ur high definition n ur....blah blah blah lol "

Where there are assholes in power, there are always assholes without power who scuttle their way into very manipulatable aspects such as science to gain their own power, whatever happened to just living life n exploring shit as we go?

We don't need this stem cell research shit, not when theres multiple ways to cure shit
(talking about the stupid hack the FDA n drug companies do to suppress natural cures n inexpensive cures n other things, they blantantly put "only a drug can cure prevent diagnose or treat a disease when pretty much any disease or virus is caused n infects people as an outcome of malnutrition er nurtriant deficiancy)
And they do that in order to protect their own profits, they use the leaders n lawmakers to maintain their own power over people, the people's dependance on medicine n drugs is inescapable when theres no "legal" way around it.

So that again, this fake science beats the shit out of government to gain power, and for what and what cause, big ass houses, cars, money, gold, diamonds, ect ect ect, at the expense of billions of lives, pain and suffering, they do it just because they can not because they've ever had to.

Thats just one example of this bullshit, n this "government vs science" crap isn't helping at all, even thou people here may find others who think the same way, nothing is ever going to change unless you do something about it, doing something like brute force would do more harm than good, so I'd say if you're pissed about what I've just explained as much as I am, I'd say get the fuck out of America n go to a country that doesn't use science against its own people for their own gain.

I don't even know if anyone will understand this, just wanted to get this off my chest.

At 3/13/09 09:08 PM, shackles1 wrote:
Did I mention that school work is against our religious principles and obeying rules is bullshit?

(drenches shales1 in holy water) DEMON BE GONE! lolz

At 3/13/09 09:04 PM, crapatflash wrote:
Wouldn't be funny if they did all that, and at the end of their lives, it turned out there was no heaven or hell?

Even worse for you, what if there is? lmao

Disbelief and attacking religions n spiritual beliefs only exposes the fear you have, everyone can sense it, and people like you hide behind it as if it can protect you, no matter what you think you know, you don't know anything in fact, life n death as far as you know will be the only thing you know, strange how we can imagine a life beyond our mortal minds, ofcourse our minds are still trappedf within this world of materialism n cannot imagine anything other than the best or worst things, the immaterial is a hard thing to wrap your mind around, but its possible.

You can sometimes measure the strength of the human spirit with a simple look or touch, (laughs) its no secret that we all share a bond with eachother, fuck knows we might be the fabric of the being of God himself!

At 3/13/09 08:39 PM, iamgrimreaper wrote: it's the best feeling ever. I'm listening to Beast and the Harlot, and I can feel the music, man!

(nods) yeah man, it does.

Funny thing, first few times I smocked I got nothing.... my expectation of getting high for a while ( a long time ago, few years) was lol.... a hilucination of some sort, buuuut yeah, I've had some pretty effed up vibes afterwards more recently. (few months ago, gotta quit now cuz getting a job)

At 3/13/09 08:41 PM, Proottalfain wrote: You didn't own him. He pointed out the fact that you are swearing in a civilized debate. If you wanna own a pro-life, point out that a human embryo is exactly like a fish embryo. So killing it is as bad as killing a fish.

And Jesus thought killing fish was alright.

a human embryo =/= wtf 2+2 A FISH? Now I'm even more confused 8S

So, the STRANGE ass thing where we humans have SOOOOO many parts of different animals, that somehow dignifies the belief that WE came from them? WTF

Ugh, anyway.....dude....pro life people are those who choose to not kill, which is a good thing.
Pro choice people.....can be the same a pro life, they have the option like prolife people to kill an unborn child, the unborn child....as I've said a million times is in itself A SEPERATE HUMAN BEING.

Because!!! The two halves of DNA that came from the male n female, they fused together, so then the DNA that is made from that belongs to neither the ones it started as, so the DNA that makes you who you are, makes you a seperate person and gives you all the rights n shit you believe to have, it also is to an unborn child, even one that may be a single cell at the moment.

At 3/13/09 08:29 PM, KingofKool wrote: This is the testimony from an actual christian, on a back-and-forth channel comment fight on youtube. I find his most recent comment the funniest.

The usual singular one side people show, this probably would've told us all alot about you if you had either commented back or included them in this, I myself have my moments in dealing with psychotic atheist types who just all caps say "DER IS NO GAWD CUZ I DON WANA DER TO BWE!".

Best thing people can do is ignore those people, and ignore people who don't ignore the other side n post stupid pictures in attempt to prove something, what a crock of shit.

i'm surprised i haven't gotten banned yet, maybe me aknowledging it will make it happen.

Fuck yuo monkey you stupid kid, go fucking kill yourself.

At 11/14/08 07:13 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: LOVE.

IT.

DOESN'T.

FUCKING.

EXIST.

Love exists for me.
Anyone who chooses to love better frigin believe in true love.
Because true love is something that most of us are incapable of due to our beliefs and lifestyles.

So with that said, I say gay love isn't love at all, its either a bad fantasy turned physical or its just a matter of disobeying whatever laws that are against it, some people jsut have to be at war for some reason.
So the reason for rape, unmarried mothers, all that stuff, thats what I call "bad things happening to stupid people" or "bad things happaning to ignorant or relativly innocent people".

Just because people claim to do bad things out of love or things done that are supposed to be done out of love being abused and used n done n left as if nothing, doesn't mean love isn't real.
People who think love isn't real are likely people who give into the bad that happans which is just what those people who do the bad things want, they themselves may have been changed just like you in the same way, made to believe that love was nothing because of all the bad things done, and so it goes from one person to another.

Do we really have so many weak willed people in this world?

At 11/18/08 01:44 AM, TheMason wrote:

But back on topic...

You are far off topic

This is a serious issue that I don't think we're looking at realistically. You see there are many incidents of sixth-graders and rednecks going to the hospital after trying to reenact their favorite finishes. Do you realize how much this country can save in healthcare costs if professional wrestling is banned?

Seeing as your account name is "The mason" and your signature is debunking conspiracies for the new world order, I hereby accuse you attempting to silence me n make stupid comments to try and negate all serious mature people from this topic.

The New World Order is a purely evil organization backed by God knows what wether it be reptillian aliens or just cracked out psychos, they plan to kill off 90% of the world population n most likely cause the end of the world.
Whatever version of the motives n backgrounds you've heard, the problem remains the same and the outcome doesn't change, the NWO will fail no matter what and there is nothing you or anyone else can do to stop that.

now it would be great to have a couple people to actually answer the topic question, I hope any good mod who sees the replies on this so far will ban those users for their lack.

Or will he carry on where bush left off?
To anyone who doesn't know what the NWO is you can easily look it up, I myself and many others are pulling as many people together as possible n prepare to leave America to wherever.
Anyway the question still stands, do you think Obama will end the NWO (New World Oder)?

This discussion will remain on topic, any questions or comments will have to be taken up with me on your own time.
So a simple yes or no answer is enough, explanations why or why not are more than welcome.

At 11/12/08 04:01 PM, SadisticMonkey wrote:
Go fuck yourself. You call me a "Demon", yet I've never shoplifted in my life, whereas you on the other hand HAVE.

Yeah? You must be very proud of urself.

The only time shoplifting is remotely "necessary" is if you're literally starving to death and you steal some food to keep you alive.

Whatever.

At 11/12/08 04:36 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:
I work at an Austrlian equivalent of wal-mart. Real shoddy place, but its easy money.
Anyway, our managers are real slackers, and they usually lock their office doors and go to sleep, so the place is pathetically undersupervised.I was stocking a shelf some day, and out of the corner of my eye I see these guys walking out the door carrying a tv. I stopped them and they tried to make some excuse about paying for it previously etc. They put it down and left, but it juyst shoes that yes, in the right place it's possible.

well thats good monkey, jus when I thought you were a deamon spawned child of death, I'm wondering what made you stop them 8P

Anyway, how about ppl tell about times they shoplifted n what they did it for n wether or not they feel it was nessesarry or not.

At 11/12/08 09:24 AM, Necroiriy wrote: The whole argument is stupid. Relgion cannot go against science. All religions say that we have free will there for u can believe anything u want.
Relgion is also based on historical fact. If u look in most religious text u can find that what is writen can be proven through science. Relgious text was also not ment to taken literaly what is writen is exaggerated to make it seem more interesting.
Besides science is not ment to go against relgion it is just ment to find out knowledge through facts and logic.

My thoughts exactly, sadly some people here don't believe in free will n many people here try and make bullshit of the fact that there is science in religion n that logic/reason/science n religion goes hand in hand no matter how hard you don't want it to.
I'll rmemeber this part n bring it up on later occasions.

At 11/11/08 11:56 PM, JackPhantasm wrote: Let me just say that the only thing I have ever stolen is food.

That's an essential.

I needed to eat.

Yeah but I don think you'd be able to do that everyday seeing as the way things r going there wont be anything in stores soon, but thats my reasoning n its too long to explain.

Anyway I'm trying to find more ways that you could patially justify shoplifting or else show it in the way that makes it nessesary as you said that if you need food ur gonna get it almost by any needs.

You could say that the way our economy is run, nah the way our country is run n the whole currency thing, this is why communism or something similar would be a whole lot better.
If everyone got all the food they needed n worked howver much they needed to there wouldn't be any need for crimes such as shoplifting, n with that you might have alot less drug n gun violence.

But whatever we're jus focusing on the topic at hand.

Dude pox, I suggest you agree to disagree on this one cuz its not worth losing sleep over 8D

At 11/11/08 02:00 PM, poxpower wrote:

At 11/11/08 01:49 PM, JeremieCompNerd wrote: that we SHOULDN'T judge people on looks.

I bet you 100 bucks that you wouldn't date a 400 pound woman, no matter what. Don't be a hypocrite, you do care about looks.

Duuude, wat da fuck man?
You do know that in some countries the fatter the women the better, in America though guys see overweight women as having low self respect meaning a bad relationship, I mean if a girl can't take care of herself then wtf does that say about her view on others who may have alot better physical condition.
Its a muuuuuch longer explanation but I think you got the point.

Omg Iperator, you burned his ass!

At 11/11/08 09:49 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:
Also agreed with whoever pointed out shoplifters don't tend to steal essentials. I work in retail and the biggest things we get stolen are electronics items. Ipods, Tv's, dvds, cd's and the like. People aren't tending towards stealing essential items, they steal luxury items.

Correct you are, but the reason hey do is not because they want the actual item, luxury items tend to be alot smaller and worth more than basic survival items.
Surely you can't expect somone to try n shoplift a bunch of food, you mides well rob the whole store if you wana do that.
The thing with the smaller n more valuable items is obviously that the person can sell n get the money to buy the food n all that stuff, also small items tend fit into smaller places lol.

And I'd just like to make sure everyone knows that I'm not trying to tell people to go out n steal n commit crime, I'm jus tlaking about it n seeing what everyone else thinks.

If you guys want my personal opinion, I would say it was wrong in some cases but ya gotta look at it from the bigger point of view.

Money is one of the worst things ever invented n I still ahve much to learn about why, so anyway shoplifting is actually a pretty good things most of the time unless you get people who do it for a living and don't actually need the money or whatever theyre stealing.
Like robinhood dude, people aren't having much money anymore n why is that? Because the asshole government n whatever asshat corporate dickheads decide to lay ppl off n jack off prices cuz ppl aren't buying this n that so much anymore, wtf.

Look at it this way, lets say there are two main selling items at a store, beef n chicken.
Now lets say the beef n chicken are manufactured by the same company n the chicken is more popular than the beef n more people buy it for whatever reason, maybe its a good deal or maybe its good quality.
So the beef that not many people buys, when it goes past its expiration date, they throw it out n they lose that money, so what are they gonna do? Theyre gonna jack off the price of chicken or lower the quality to compansate for the money lost on the beef so they can still sell it n not have to drop a whole production area, although that would be another option since it would put tons of people out of a job n save them even more money.

Starting to see the connection?
Eh wtf, I've shoplifted before n even got caught once, n I didn't do it for a good reason either, thats why I stopped doing it.

But yeah, I can bet you anything that this trend is gonna grow waaaay more in the coming weeks n months.

At 11/11/08 07:24 PM, Ravariel wrote:

At 11/10/08 09:11 PM, Earfetish wrote: Teenage girl 'wins right to die' by refusing a heart transplant

I don't think it's a good idea to refuse transplants.

I feel bad for her parents, but meh... let the stupid people weed themselves out of our gene pool.

And you feel you have any authority to actually enforce that kind of nazi way of thinking hm, let me know how that works for u.

I've heard on the news recently about proffessional shoplifters coming to a large city near me caught and found to have shoplifted from who knows how many other places.

Anyway with the rise in food costs n costs of everything else even though gas prices are dropping, I was wondering how many people see shoplifting as a growing trend and what they think about it.
Oh, and the imminant collapse of the economy, that I'm sure is patial reason for the growing gun sales n people stocking up on food n stuff.

So what do you guys think, is shoplifting all that bad at this point?