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At 12/16/12 09:00 PM, II2none wrote:

At 12/16/12 08:05 PM, PrincessRanicorn wrote:

At 12/16/12 08:02 PM, II2none wrote:

Provide no argument for why it is or research to thwart my statement.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research /gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use/index.html

Big whoop it's not even to a point where there's utter chaos.

Is that the point it has to be before Amerifats agree to strict gun control?

Every day, I'm not a pretty female however.

At 12/16/12 08:42 PM, RacistBassist wrote:

At 12/16/12 08:35 PM, PrincessRanicorn wrote:

Amazingly, even with such low access to firearms, murders are still somehow committed over there.

Murders in the UK are lower than those in the US, not once was it stated in this thread getting rid of guns would get rid of murder. That's just human nature, guns are an artificial and alarmingly effective means of killing other people. As demonstrated Friday.

Uh, did you even read the link you posted?

Read enough to know with strict gun control crime rates in the UK are lower, especially firearm related crime.

I'm anything but a conservative lol.

You gave off the aura of a true American conservative, being an idiot.

At 12/16/12 08:19 PM, RacistBassist wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-
country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html
And what happened to its other crime rates?

http://www.juancole.com/2012/07/58-murders-a-year-by-firearm s-in-britain-8775-in-us.html
http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/United-Kingdom/United-St ates/Crime

Significantly less than the US in all categories outside of standard assault which has no sort of textbook definition in the UK.

At 12/16/12 08:23 PM, BumFodder wrote:

At 12/16/12 08:19 PM, RacistBassist wrote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-
country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

and what idiots use to justify their idiotic positions.

It's as if you're forgetting who you're responding to, were you expecting something different from a conservative American?

At 12/16/12 08:13 PM, All-American-Badass wrote: All that tells me is that guns are use as a deterrent, which is good.

Then you have serious issues in regards to reading comprehension.

At 12/16/12 08:10 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Those people committing the crimes will commit them regardless of a firearm or not.

Organized criminals will still commit crimes and have access to firearms purchased illegally, sure. Yet somehow first world nations with firearm bans have significantly lower crime rates in general. Maybe guns help people commit violent crimes?

I mean seriously, just look at countries pre ban compared to post ban. The only thing that happens is firearm related incidents go down (Well, some places have oddly been going up, who knew criminals wouldn't follow the laws?), while incidents involving other weapons increase, as well as crime overall.

Except the UK's overall firearm homicide and homicide rate has decreased since it's ban of firearms. Even adjusted per capita it's nowhere near as bad as the US.

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Sounds like a great way to create jobs for Merica.

At 12/16/12 08:02 PM, II2none wrote:

At 12/16/12 08:00 PM, PrincessRanicorn wrote:

Who cares if some people use guns for good when so many more use them for bad?

That's a lie.

That's wrong

Provide no argument for why it is or research to thwart my statement.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/research/hicrc/firearms-research /gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use/index.html

Read it and weep, if guns had any positive benefit for America the nation wouldn't have so much gun related crime in general. The only argument for guns I have seen this entire thread is "it is my right" and "what if we get attacked."

At 12/16/12 02:23 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: If the europeans want to throw in they're 2 cents they should see both sides of the arguement before spewing they're liberal garbage endorsed by the UN. Firearms made america what it is a free country from oppressors,

It's not even liberal, the American right outside of America isn't seen as conservative rather a radical political stance that most people couldn't comprehend still existing.

Muh freedom

the strongest nation in earth

Lol, what?

There is more to firearms than killing. My uncle competitivly shoots at Camp Perry, I hunt use it for self defense anax carry in public because I have a clean record and am licensed.

But violent crimes committed with firearms severely outweigh instances in which firearms are used in self defense? Who cares if some people use guns for good when so many more use them for bad?

The only downside to eliminating firearms is all the gun owners who would commit crimes in attempts to not having their guns seized.

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At 12/16/12 01:44 PM, Dragen wrote:

At 12/16/12 01:42 PM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: Make snu snu

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illusions of grandeur

When I was 12 prior to a trip to visit my father I stayed awake for literally three days straight, I was in the car with my Aunt and intended to get some sleep but she kept waking me up and asking me to pass her CDs.

I had the worst headache that would rival any hangover and my eyes were burning, that entire "vacation" was easily the worst experience of my life.

At 12/16/12 04:57 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 12/16/12 04:54 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: When will it be my turn to have that much freedom?

Pass the borders. Wait till you are 18 years old. Become a pornstar. By guns. Fuck people up with 'em. And if anyone criticise you, call them jealous.

Boy, why can't I comprehend this level of freeedom?

At 12/16/12 04:41 AM, Darthdenim wrote: Fuck you!

This is the United States of America! We have freedoms here you can't even imagine!

When will it be my turn to have that much freedom?

At 12/16/12 04:43 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I'm suprised Walking Dead was mentionned more often than the shitfest know as The Big Bang Theory. Shitty American sitcom bullshit at it's best. I miss Seinfeld :'(

It is completely overrated, but I don't think most people here bother watching it to begin with.

At 12/16/12 04:28 AM, Xenomit wrote: He's a smug ass Nancy boy canadian who never dropped his fucking balls, so to compensate for his lack of testicular presence, he constantly stereotypes America into one big mud clob of fat rednecks.

I don't have testicles and I wasn't stereotyping Americans? I'm certain most of them aren't as bad as you.

The picture describes your mannerisms to a tee however, if you're overweight then that's just an added bonus.

At 12/16/12 04:22 AM, Austerity wrote:

At 12/16/12 04:15 AM, Darthdenim wrote: I'm right. I don't care what anybody else says.

Everyone should do this and leave, because all this arguing will literally never change anyone's mind. The only thing that does that are real life experiences.

Fuck it, I'm done. No one can be this fucking stupid unless it's on purpose, I hope the homicide rate in your country continues to rival those of third world nations just so you can have your lethal toys.

At 12/16/12 04:12 AM, Xenomit wrote:

However gang violence and gun related homicides/crimes in places with strict gun laws are a lot less and I mean a fucking lot less.

Because gangs don't hang out in gun free zones you idiot

This doesn't even make any sense. There's not a single area in my country that even resembles one tiny section of LA. Coincidentally we don't have guns available to anyone who wants them.

At 12/16/12 04:12 AM, Xenomit wrote:

You can legally carry a firearm in both those areas and that's not even the entire list. Just shut the fuck up, you're absolutely full of shit as much as the arguments that you substituted as your own. What qualifies as a mass killing? Each of those had ten or more victims, but unless they get over 20 it doesn't count, right?

Gun violence occurs all over, just not in police stations and NRA meetings because it's fucking suicidal and the people who commit these acts intend to take others down with them. Is it impossible to commit mass killings of armed individuals? Certainly but not armed only with a gun.

Rather than go with the solution that would eliminate most gun violence you selfishly cling on to your hobby and hypothesize that if there were even more guns with less restrictions, as if America doesn't already have the most, that there'd be less violence. There's nothing to fucking support your statement.

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Two and a Half Men
The Walking Dead
Mad Men

At 12/16/12 03:48 AM, Xenomit wrote:

At 12/16/12 03:44 AM, P0sitivity wrote: In fact I don't even know why I'm replying to begin with, you're not even trying just fishing for some feedback.

19:02

"Look at all the major mass killings in the last 100 years. Every single one of them happened in a gun free zone"

How the fuck can you possibly argue against this? How? You can't do it, don't even fucking lie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers#America s

Every single one of these that occurred in the USA happened in a civilian area that was NOT a school/college campus or post office.

You are WRONG.

"I personally like gun control laws, because they're a joke. Restricting guns from the public wont stop me, it'll just unarm you to make my job easier. If I wanted to, I could come into your home, and do whatever, because I have a gun and you don't"

Banning guns doesn't stop criminals from coming into possession of guns illegally, nobody ever argued against that. However gang violence and gun related homicides/crimes in places with strict gun laws are a lot less and I mean a fucking lot less.

I just don't see how any of you take even yourselves seriously.

I think you're just playing devil's advocate. Inb4 you come up with a new argument that can be torn to shreds within literally a minute on Google.

At 12/16/12 03:24 AM, Darthdenim wrote: You wouldn't say that if it was your pocketbook that got stolen in this scene.

I don't live in the ghetto.

At 12/16/12 03:14 AM, Darthdenim wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvSwpljtxlg

The guy goes around for like eight movies looking for people to shoot and kill over small offences that wouldn't warrant the death penalty or even a self defense killing in reality.

At 12/16/12 02:53 AM, Xenomit wrote:

At 12/16/12 02:48 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: Less guns equal less crime.

I just keep thinking back to that episode of Family Guy where Peter and his little settlement burn all the town's guns, and then right afterwards they all get attacked and killed because they didn't have the guns.

You mean the episode where the mutant clones of octopus Stewie attack them? I think that's unlikely to occur and a pretty piss poor comparison to modern day America that has more than enough guns in their military and police force alone.

At 12/16/12 02:50 AM, Maverick-Alex wrote:

At 12/16/12 02:43 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: In alternative to what? Keeping your guns and continuing to have the highest crime rate in western civilization? A new shooting spree every two weeks?

You are fear-mongering here, please stop this.

Clearly he current system isn't working for you and more guns aren't going to help things.

How about less guns? Ever though of that?
The way it is now is really flawed I agree, but banning guns doesn't stop people from getting the guns.

My intention wasn't to present a realistic alternative, I was just stating my opinion. America does have a HUGE percentage of gun related crime when compared to any other 1st world nation.

If it were up to me, not that I particularly care, there would be no guns. Realistically they should work towards banning semi auto and automatic guns.

At 12/16/12 02:45 AM, Xenomit wrote:

At 12/16/12 02:43 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: In alternative to what? Keeping your guns and continuing to have the highest crime rate in western civilization? A new shooting spree every two weeks?

Clearly he current system isn't working for you and more guns aren't going to help things.

I absolutely love how you ignored all the other replies that proved your idea was completely ignorant

They were all response to me saying my idea wouldn't work, why would I use the same reply for multiple post? I don't think there's any benefit to having GUNS 4 EVERYBODY in Murica, and my views on guns are not synonymous with my views on drugs and alcohol.

Mainly because in moderation drugs and alcohol aren't particularly harmful to people and those around them. Guns are always harmful, that's their only use. They're used far less in self defense in the US than they are in crime.

Gun crime rates are as high as they are in the US only because guns are so accessible. I never claimed taking guns from people would stop guns from entering the hands of criminals in the US, but everyone having a gun clearly hasn't worked in the average persons favor.

Less guns equal less crime.

At 12/16/12 02:40 AM, Darthdenim wrote:

At 12/16/12 02:24 AM, PrincessRanicorn wrote: It would take some time but most gun owners are registered, it would be fairly easy to track them down and seize their weapons assuming they don't fire on those in charge of collecting weapons.

Good idea. Let's send a bunch of jackbooted thugs around the country to take things from people.

In alternative to what? Keeping your guns and continuing to have the highest crime rate in western civilization? A new shooting spree every two weeks?

Clearly he current system isn't working for you and more guns aren't going to help things.

Decorating the tree and just being around it, I like the lights and overall atmosphere. And of course being given money to shop for presents for family and splerging on myself. The music is cute and nostalgic as well.

Wish more of my family was here and happy though, everyone seems pretty apathetic this year and I don't feel much in a Christmasy mood myself.