28,650 Forum Posts by "poxpower"
At 2/12/03 07:18 PM, Devil_Knight_470 wrote: Enough of this Anti-BC crap!
Would any want to join my club,the "Devil Never Cry" Club.It's basics are for fans of RPG Games,Action Games,Fighter Games,and fans of the Devil May Cry ssersis
You can hate whichever club you like! You don't have to hate the blamclub or the clockcrew, you can even be a member! This club is purely to say, if you're going to part of a club, you might as well be part of one with a funny name. You can always say you hate the CCC and be a member! See, youMd hate a club, so you'd qualify as a member! And it's not even paradoxal, since nothing says you can't be part of a club you hate!
About you joining offer.
I like Zelda, I like FF, I like Mega-Man, MK, but I don't whant to be part of any clubs related to that, come on, what's the point? I'd rather be part of a funny-useless club than a serious boring one.
No offence.
P.S.: WTF is Devil May Cry?
At 2/12/03 06:51 PM, BuckeyesNate wrote: Hello, i'm number 2. "hi number 2, im number one" and thats how it all began.... anyways you saying that reminded me of austin powers. i didnt know you were actually some one with some recognition lol. anyways ya i dont think any one else is goanna join with us
Yep, we'll probably alone in here for a good while, but, hey, I'm never taking this pic down! Never! It's a statement!
What do you mean, recognition?
At 2/12/03 06:44 PM, BuckeyesNate wrote: WOHOO!! hey then can you join my Anti-blam Club Club. lol god i didnt know how much that had been done before. maybe if one person joined more would come. then again prolly wont
Sorry, I'm not against any club in particular. I started this tread/ club knowing many people would say it was done before ( at least, looking at my profile, they won't think I'm a Noob). This club is kind of like most of the jokes in the Simpsons: it's ironic. It's only purpose is to make a club that, in its essence, is against itself, just for the sake of doing so, because it seems to me that most clubs started now ( Mega-man club, Zelda club etc.) are just created because they don't already exist.
This club is not to cause a revolution, or any kind of change at all on NG, it's just to laugh, in a non-harmful way, at this whole club craze. I think the name is funny also. Imagine, if a lot people joined this club ( and others also), NG would be a lot more colorful.
At 2/12/03 06:06 PM, BuckeyesNate wrote: Hey Buddy, there are two of us now.
Yes! My first follower! I officially grant you the title of number 2!
Hey! Go check the club I just started one hour ago! It's the Club-a-Club Club. You can join, and, as a member, anyone can hate whichever club they whant to hate! The goal is not to get rid of clubs ( duh! Its a club itself), but to show how many people here find certain clubs dum. So, join, and you can get the super signature pic I designed. And the name kikcs ass.
Here's what it would look like...
At 2/12/03 04:39 PM, izax wrote: hahaha! thats the best club name yet! I hate most clubs anyway. And making one against them will only keep them going longer.
The goal is not to close them, and you don't need to want their deaths. It'a just to express your opinion, like voting. And come on, you can't go wrong when you join a club with a name like that! And you can always create the Club Club-a-Club Club Club ( I just had to write it before someone else thought of it!)
Since the Clock Crew and the Blam Club have been founded, countless fanclubs have popped all over NG. If, for any reason at all you dislike any club, or a crew, or if you find that there is one, two three... club to many on this site, let Newgrounds know by joining the Club-a-Club Club.
Just add the signature pic I've included below in your BBS signature and specify which club you don't like.
I know you're going to tell me I'm only encouraging hatefulness among NG members. To that, I will reply: not really. It's for fun, that's all.
Well, in case someone actually wants to be a member of the CCC, there are no member numbers, so wright whatever you like into your signature pic. Heck, you can even wright you're the founder for all I care.
Example of an abusive review:
"Fuck you stupid noob, you should go overdose on barbituates while jumping off the Empire State Building and shooting yourself in the head at the same time, you fucking Linkin Park pre-teen cock-muncher. Eat my asshole, you little shit-faced jack-off. I've got a good idea; why don't you go jack-off to the sounds of your sister getting fucked by me. And when you're done with that, you can jack off to the sounds of me fucking your mom, you pizza-faced little fuckwad. Then I'm gonna tie you to a chair and cut your ear off like in Reservior Dogs, and since Tim Roth isn't here to save you this time, I'm gonna set you on fire too, you little used up pap smear. God, your fucking flash skills have to to be the fucking worst in the entire world. You should have your nuts cut off and have the right one mailed to the south pole and the other mailed to the north pole, so penguins can shit on the left, and Santa can cram the right one up his runny asshole, you little cluster-fucked, inbred, peter-beater. I hope you drown in a sea of sailor's cum before you make another flash movie, you horrendous, down-syndrome-plagued, vaginal discharge."
( that was not written by me, but by user Keyser_Soze)
Have you noticed how, sometimes, insulting reviews are very funny to read? How some very stupid jokes get people laughing? How Jackass and Tom Green have become popular ( to some degree) because they did stupid stuff?
-Are you someone with a lot of creativity?
-Are you good at insulting others?
-Do you write a lot of hateful reviews or BBS posts?
-Do you like to laugh a lot?
This topic is for you! You can write all the colorful and inventive insults your mind comes up with, and then read what other users have came up with and get a laugh out of that.
Here's what you can do:
-Write a very insulting text to a fictive character
-Find a review you think is very funny, but make sure we don't know who wrote it for which movie
-Post a funny picture of anything
-Get back at someone you hate ( no naming said person please!!!!)
This topic is meant to be used in all and pure good fun, so don't directly insult people, just make someone up or be sure it's a person who won't care or who will never ever ever ever find out. If you're going to use this insult forum as a mean to de-anger yourself, or to relax after you've had a stressful day because of some person you hate, PLEASE GO AHEAD, but, DO NOT GIVE ANY SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT THE PERSON, like last name, address or whatever.
HAVE FUN' EVERYONE, I HOPE THIS THING BECOMES A GREAT SOURCE OF ENJOYEMENT FOR ALL.
At 2/11/03 08:40 PM, Keyser_Soze wrote: Example of an abusive review:
"Fuck you stupid noob, you should go overdose on barbituates while jumping off the Empire State Building and shooting yourself in the head at the same time, you fucking Linkin Park pre-teen cock-muncher. Eat my asshole, you little shit-faced jack-off. I've got a good idea; why don't you go jack-off to the sounds of your sister getting fucked by me. And when you're done with that, you can jack off to the sounds of me fucking your mom, you pizza-faced little fuckwad. Then I'm gonna tie you to a chair and cut your ear off like in Reservior Dogs, and since Tim Roth isn't here to save you this time, I'm gonna set you on fire too, you little used up pap smear. God, your fucking flash skills have to to be the fucking worst in the entire world. You should have your nuts cut off and have the right one mailed to the south pole and the other mailed to the north pole, so penguins can shit on the left, and Santa can cram the right one up his runny asshole, you little cluster-fucked, inbred, peter-beater. I hope you drown in a sea of sailor's cum before you make another flash movie, you horrendous, down-syndrome-plagued, vaginal discharge."
See guys? Tom doesn't want you to write stuff like that.
I don't know if he whant you to write that or not, he just wants to be sure people who read it won't think it has any relevance. Like, if you say the guy's skills suck, but you review was voted/ said to be (or watever) completely useless and untrue, it will encourage people to still watch the movie.
But I know you know that and that you just wanted to write a very entertaining text...
HEY! THAT'S AN IDEA! A NEWGROUNDS INSULT FORUM WHERE PEOPLE WHO CAN NO LONGER BASH ON OTHER PEOPLE'S STUFF IN THEIR REVIEW CAN PUT THEIR CREATIVITY TO INSULT AN IMAGINARY PERSON. THIS WOULD RESULT IN A LOT OF VERY FUNNY STUFF!
Like, come on, every one know Tom Green's jokes are stupid as hell, but he still gets people laughing...
wtf? my post was posted twice? I think it's because I press "Post it" but then, realized I didn't review it,so I immediately pressed the "Stop" button. I guesse it still posted it. Sorry for this.
Good, very good. Now, it seems some people are getting annoyed by the abundance of rules on NG and the severity of the repercussions on assholes. Well...
First off, NG has had to make more rules over the years because of its ever-growing user base. As more people came in, more (negative term of your choice, might I suggest buttpeople)have come also. At one point, so many came that it actually made an impact, a very negative impact, so, now there are rules to deal with their abuse. Nice people should not be afraid of them (the rules) because they only punish those who are nasty ( insert negative term again). BTW, you DO fall in that category if you have hired your little sister to vote 0 on every NG entry for you when you're at school, or when you write stupid and nasty reviews to authors just for the sake of doing so and because you think you're funny/clever.
Don't forget that NG gives you rights, but with rights also come responsability. You have the right to vote on any movies, but you have the responsability of using this power responsably. You do have the right to review movies, or wright a BBS post, but please, be smart enough to not litter Newgrounds with your crap.
Example:For all those of you who don't know what happened in France during the elections, here's a recap:
During the elections, former president Chirac was the leading candidate by far. In the campaign for presidency, ran another guy, Jean-Marie LePen, who was almost a Nazi.It seemed he didn't have much of a chance. No one knows what happenned then, but LePen actually came 2nd! People freaked out! On the second vote ( it works like that in France) Chirac won by far, indicating that perhaps people had not been voting responsably on their first vote, thinking Chirac would win anyways.
You see kids, that'a what happens when you don't use your power to vote responsably. They almost had a Nazi for president!
( By the way, I know LePen was not that bad and that it might have been the people's actual choice, but c'mon, work with me on this one!)
The repercussions are very severe, not because the people cause a lot of damage ( they do cause some, but not that much...) but because we are all tired of bastards now. There are enough all around the world or in the streets, so, NG fans should not have to endure those people.
As for the new system, I think its perfect. Some people might think the author should be able to delete reviews, but that wouldn't work because some people would delete all the bad reviews and keep only the ones who gave them 10. The new system alows everyone to see all the reviews and enables the author to report excessive cases, just like the whistle. I don't see this as a voting system, I see it as a new whistle. Don't be afraid to write reviews, because if the author constantly reports minor cases, he'll be ignored. ( I hope)
Good Job Computer-Zombie-Liljim
At 2/9/03 10:09 PM, SteveZarebski wrote: Tom hey man what is this new feature going to be called and what will it do also glad to see Pico 2 coming along nicely when do you think you will have it out by?
I ain't no Tom Fulp, but maybe I could try to give you an answer.
New name: you'll see when it's released, it's a surprise and a damn good one.
Pico2: As soon as it's finished.
No, it's okay, you can thank me later...
Well, much speculation there is about this new music-related section. The most obvious guess is a Sound Portal. Maybe something commercial, like: sell your Flash/clips. Ng radio? good idea! That would replace the long-lost main page music. But wouldn't that be an enormous task to make work?
Tutorials are good also. Extremely good.
I'll definately send you something. Although, I'm not sure why I'm writing it here. Let's think about it: you don't know me, so, even if you read this message, and I don't send you something by Friday, you won't remember I promised I'd enter. If I do send you something and I do get selected, well, good for me. I wouldn't have mattered that I wrote something. But now that I have said that, maybe you'll actually remember I said I would enter ( because my text is so brilliantly written...)and then, if I don't send you anything, you'll write my name down on you people to kill ( or maybe just people to hate) list and I would have been better to write nothing at all on the subject.
So, It's like this: I'm more stupid to write I'm going to enter than I'd be if I simply entered without announcing it.
But now that I do realize this, I can simply not post this message and still have the option of not entering at all, but since I already spent time writting this, it would be foolish to discard it simply to avoid having to take time to do a picture.
So now, I come to a dilemma: do I erase this and admit I wasted time or do I post it and then take the chance that I might not draw anything. If I choose the first option, and draw something anyways, I'll have "wasted" even more total time with this Beebo thing. Since I actually think I'll do something, I'd be better to post this.
At 2/9/03 07:27 PM, ryu12 wrote:At 2/9/03 07:12 PM, beachboy212 wrote: cool..im firstyou are not first, as you can see VGDC is above you making you second dumbass!
I think you misunderstood what he meant when he said he was "first". He doesn't mean he's the first to post OR replie, it means he's the first one to write that he's the first one to reply. It's the same for all the people who reply on the P-Bot post.
Wow, and all this time, you though they where writing that simply because they where proud to be the first to write a reply to a post.
Hey, has anyone seen some unfinished movies and games on NG lately? Maybe in the... graveyard...
Alright, I'm not that dumb, I know Randy is a good Flash author, but I think putting half-finished stuff on a website is just cruel. Imagine if someone liked where it was going! They could suffer from the " I wannahavepico2nowdamnit" syndrome and their lives would be ruined. Sad.
Well, you know, expect people to request the completion of these projects. You'll be in a tight spot: if you don't finish these movies, you'll be evil, and if you do, you'll be overworked and bored. Also sad.
Oh well, good luck with that, and don't forget to enter in the Beebo contest, I'd love to see your face in a Beebo movie. And Tom's. And Wade. And maybe mine...
While we're talking about stolen content, any news on the wistle? Since it's been there, we had no news of how well or how often people were using it. Is it really making a difference? Are there many users who don't use it properly?
And since someone brought it up, you should really consider selling stuff autographed by the NG crew, that would be very cool!
That is Harsh! I remember yesterday, there was like 2-3 Ganguro Girl hack submissions! I think the guy(s) who did this should order at leat 200 stickers to be forgiven! No, 300! And they'd have to send a very embarassing picture of themselves using the stickers in ways they weren't meant to be used...
I know you've (Newgrounds) received a couple of warning letters from different companies telling you to remove some content ( like Ortiz's Robocob tribute), but was Newgrounds ever threatened because a little prick stole a movie from a big website?
Well, in any case, it's better to prevent it from happening than having to deal with it once it's to late.
At 2/5/03 09:33 PM, rvyn wrote:
Every time the new week's best flashes are put into the top 20 list, they are also put into the All time list. I find this mildly annoying because new films suddenly and very quickly get into the top 50, knocking down the old and longstanding flashes from the top 50, and giving them only a week to make it back up to the top (only to be knocked down again).
I have noticed that also. It's been a few weeks now that the 3 or 4 top movie of the top 20 of the week always replace the top 3-4 of the all time list. I remenber when console wars2 came out, it got a crazy score of over 4.2! Before that, movies in the top 50 had score of under 3.9! Now, people seem to either have less taste or getting more generous with their votes.
I think it might be that flashes are getting better and better every week... Not. It seems that, as soon as a movie makes it to the top 50, it is knocked down to a more normal score, but their score is still higher than those of the very good things that where knocked down before, i.e Alien Hominid and Domo-Kun's Angry Smashfest. In my opinion, stuff like this deserves to stay on the top of the list so they can be appreciated by all. Come on, even Heroes of Cybertron isn't on the list anymore.
You are right also about the votes being inflated. A bunch of users with respectalbe voting powers can raise or lower the score ( usually raise) of any new movie they like, but it would take a mighty lot of people to change the score of something like Hentai: Simgirl or Heroes of Cybertron. This king of movie was didn't have crazy scores ( but still on top of the top 50) when they where at the peek of their popularity, so now, a score of 3.75 that was extremely good a year ago won't even get a movie in the top 50.
Another thing this does is make the top 50 easier to access. Come on, Willy Short? Dark Side Switch Campaign? I'd be stupid to say they suck, but they don't deserves a spot in the top 50. If I'd make a movie now, and it would get in the top 50, I'd be very proud of myself, but, maybe a little less.
One good thing it does though, is make Newgrounds more "alive". I remenber, back in the Days, it was a good while before the number1 movie changed! There was like Street life, then Heroes of Cybertron, then Final Task, then Star Wars Gangsta Rap, then Xiao Xiao. From there it just started to rotate faster.
In short: Newer movies get a Higher score than they used to which rotates the top 50 more often, but maybe fills it with less good movies than it should and it Knock Down the Classics.
Your solutions seem decent, more the first one, but I don't know if it would work. Maybe we could try. I think it would be fun to make the top 50 a top 100, since quality Flash has been colected over years, it would be fair to showcase more of them that are now "lost" in the portal dephts.
What do other people think?
We might as well use this half-Dead BBS Post to think about that.
At 2/3/03 10:01 AM, MMK wrote: Another Idea in relation to Phoenix points.
Any movie that is ressurrected through phoenix points automatically removes any blam points earned.That why you force people to think about what they blam or not.
Author should definately have the power to remove reviews, without any form of control. I think that people who are good enough to make Flash that stays on the portal are smart enough to use review-deoletion in a smart way.
Author should also get experience points for anthing that is submitted and that stays. Well, maybe... You see, as with Blam/Protection points, I'm pretty sure crap authors would submit twice as much shit every day to get points. I, for one wouldn't complain.
Authors though should never get the power to ressurecr crap that has been blammed. If it was blammed, it's for a reason. Authors can always resubmit their work if they feel they have improved their skills enough for their work to stay on the portal.
At 2/2/03 02:16 PM, Evil_Kodiak wrote: And maybe.. just maybe.. if your putting 150+ hours into something and it turns out to be shit.. on NG then maybe its because you put too much work into it.
You can't overwork a Flash, it's purely impossible! The worst thing that could ever happen to anyone who put more time into a Flash is getting a better result. You analogy with logs doesn't work because every piece of Flash is different. I'd compare it more to you having a tree to have to cut down, and hiring two different people to cut it, giving them the choice between many different tools. In the end, it comes down to the person who can use the tools at his disposal in the smartest most effective way.
And I don't know if it's better to make 10 acceptable Flashes in the same time it would take to make one great Flash movie or game. And how much can you actually improve if all you do is tiny little pieces of Flash.
...... oups, that's "being an art student, I understan..."
:My votes aren't based on appreciation of the time spent by the author of a submission
An art critique once said " It is sad to se that even today some people juge the quality of a work by how much time it took to complete". That was 400 years ago!
You've got a good point, it is the final result that matters, and, behind an Art student, understand this very well. Some people can do amazing things in very little time and other will do something slightly better, but in 10 times the time and work.
i really don't care much - or ever did - for score - but i will tell you that a good score does make you feel good. A good score makes me feel better than a bad score makes me feel bad. I don't take the score seriously- but because that is what the site *seems* to be about nowadays - I am sure alot of talented artists have had frustrations because of theor hard work being beaten by some tweening and simple graphics.
Well, you saw what Tom wrote, more views are more important than a good score, put it does seem a bit illogical that many people would go and see a movie with a lower score that the top movie of the moment. If you think the portal is getting to score-oriented, what could be done for that? It would seem silly to organize the top 50 by the number of views, or reviews, obviously.
I noticed that movie now have a popularity ranking, and I was wondering what it was based on exactly, I mean, is is the number of views a movie has or the number of views over a certain period of time? If that was the case, organising the portal by popularity instead of score would make more sense than ranking movies by the number of views, but I still think the score system is better, it's not only Ng that functions on scores, but the whole world.
Well, in any case, now that the portal front page is rotating way more frequently and that the daily top 5 is more important, decent movies get the exposure they deserve.
And we where all 13 once, where we that bad? Of course not! I think the range of age for the tard-ass user is much broader than 13-14, and that less that 1% of NG users are completely dumb.
I think games are under-rated mainly because artistc talent is much more impressive to a Flash-stranger than programming.
About Ng roots... well it used to be about violence, but now you say it's about what a 13 years-old wants, but isn't that also violence? Maybe I misunderstood or something, so could you clarify that a bit, what is it that, in your opinion, a 13 year-old wants?
It seems you are pissed that most of the users are young teenagers who crave games titties and violence.
It does make for some repetitive top-Charters, I admit.
Can you suggest any kind of system to deal with this problem? Or to give more importance to games, other than boosting it's score, because we know some people will abuse this and others will simply lower their votes on games to balance it out.
Do you think the portal, or the whole website, should be divided into adult/minors section? Or that some priviledges should be granted to mature users. I think we are kind of on that track with the ratings system, but what keeps a 12 year-old from lying about is age anyway?
Maybe Tom could give us some stats or something as to the average age of the NG user so we can have a better picture of what is going on around here.
Let us not forget that the animation/sound/programming of a Flash is only one half of it, there is the question of originality. That's how All your Base and DBZ in a Nutshell managed to live for so long.
I think there is a factor called "talent" you forgot to mention. Usually, a flash with countless hours put into it will most certainly stay, even have a nice score,but it's talent that makes movies go to the top 50. For Flash, you need either ( or both) artistic and programming skills, a movie with a lot of work put into it, but with little skills will, unfortunatly, not get as much a good score as the author expected.
I don't think games are underated on NG, more people make good movies than good games, that's my opinion. And the top 50 is getting pretty competitive now, more than in the good old days, when street life toped the chart forever. (where is that submision now anyway?) I don't know enough about Flash programming, but my guess is that it's much more complicated to do a kick ass game than a kick ass movie.
Could we please move on with that " games/assassin started Ng thing? This website has evolved into something waaaay cooler than good'ol shotgun man, teletubies funland and club a seal. These where classics, agreed, but that doesn't make them better than today's portal.
You are right though, people should not get discouraged when their movies get blammed, in my opinion, this simply means the author has to improve, that's all. How good do you think Synj and Tom where when they first played around with Flash? I do hope your post has given confidence back to many Flash artists who put hard work into a Flash with a 1.56 score.
... Go Monet!
Yes! Flash time baby! That's the opportunity I've been waiting for to make a Flash. It's cool.
Tom, every time you finish something cool, there's always some people who want Pico 2 instead.
I'm not emitting any opinion on that right now, but could you give us a detailed progress report of you and Jose's work.
- How much is done?
- How much more work are you going to have to put into it to finish it?
- How often do you get to work on it?
- Are you ever actually going to finish it?
Some problems on Ng:
I recently went back to the highest scores page and, well, found out some guys named Denethor2000 and Drone top most of the lists with scores of respectivly 2,147,483,647 annd 145 000 points.
Will that be fixed?
here's what it looked like when I realized this wouldn't fit at all on the page.
Behold, the P-Bot frame!
Or something a little less heavy. You could change the framing, I guess.
At 1/21/03 05:01 PM, TomFulp wrote:At 1/21/03 03:59 PM, poxpower wrote: Well, tell me if this is any better. Are there still problems? If so, do you want me to post more ideas or just let it go?I'm always open to ideas. This one looks much more feasible... Althoug I think I will be staying away from pop-ups no matter what.
What if P-Bot's post stayed like it is now, but wasn't in a grey box? I don't know if it would change whether or not someone scrolls down to read more news...
No scroll-overs then. Hmmmmm... brain... working.... ideas are coming... yes... I've got it! (or something like "it". Check this post back in an hour or two...
