One thing Anarchists don't realize it seems is that there are a LOT of laws.

A LOT.

Example: I was just watching tv and they were talking about marmalade and what can and can't go in your product if you want to call it marmalade. That's right, there is a part of the law that tells you how you can use the word marmalade when selling a little jar of it in a market.

The same goes for so many things.

Anarchists just figure that under a free market, bad products will somehow get weeded out magically. Consumer protection is a huge part of the law and of the free market. It makes sure that if you get swindled you have other recourses than "just stop buying that stuff".

That is bullshit. It's extremely easy for anyone to just change their name and keep selling something. I bet a free-market anarchist would buy the same shitty product 10 times from the same guy without ever knowing it, thinking he's really making it work by not purchasing the bad product. He'd think "wow I'm great, it's going off the shelves! This is really working!".

In other news; unregulated capitalism doesn't even make sense.

At 11/4/09 01:15 PM, Elfer wrote:

Note: I have posted this argument many times and never received a response ever, so I'm just starting to assume I'm right and nobody has anything to say about it.

Too complicated haha.

We all know the argument by now:
"Well something can't come out of nothing, so God made it!"
"Ok so where did God come from, I thought you just said something can't come out of nothing?"
"Right except God"
"Why?"
"Because he's God!"
"You're a fucking retard, you know that?"

The end

At 11/3/09 06:43 PM, Elfer wrote:

At 11/3/09 05:15 PM, poxpower wrote: haha poor Ericho.

Well, it's fair to pick on someone who doesn't understand why murder is wrong.

He's shaggy basically. Like he'll say something outlandishly insane without realizing it, have it explained ot him, pretend he understood, and then 3 days later he makes the exact same claim again.

But for some reason I like him better.

At 11/3/09 08:32 AM, tony4moroney wrote: This is what you were referring to.

That's definitely not what he's talking about :o
He's saying that some people say "you're brainwashed" as an argument.

Which I've never seen anyone do.

He hasn't either, I'd be on it.
He thinks I just did it in my other post. I clearly did not. You be the judge.

haha poor Ericho.

At 11/3/09 07:07 AM, MarcusTuliusCicero wrote: This may often be recognized by the readers, and you are in your power to comment on such behavior when it arises.

Look the simple truth of the matter IS that they're being brainwashed.
It has SERIOUS implications to say that someone's argument is not the result of logic but of brainwashing.

That instantly put them on the defense and they have to explain why it is they think they're not brainwashed, which they fail MISERABLY at every single time because, again, they ARE brainwashed.

A debate against a religion person is not so much about logic and respect as it is about trying to find a hole in their mental armor where you can finally pump some seed of common sense into. If you're religious, you most likely ALREADY DON'T understand logic.

Consider this argument:
"How can something come out of nothing? God made it!"

That's THEIR FINEST ARGUMENT. You will not find any argument better than that in all of the land throughout all the ages. In 5000-6000 years of being religious, no man has come up with a better one yet many people called bullshit on that argument before they grew their first pube.

Considering this, can you really take anything they say or do as a serious logical argument and not an attempt to excuse their right to belief?

In which case, yeah, I will call them out on being brainwashed because that's what they are. It's not a fallacy OR an argument, It's a statement of fact.

At 11/2/09 09:58 PM, Ericho wrote:

Well, yeah, but don't you think that by not believing in God we become arrogant?

Do you think you're arrogant because you don't believe in Thor?

By believing in God, I would think that a person would consider themselves to be more humble as they know there is something out there that is better than them.

How is it humble to admit that the one person who's better than you has to be the creator of the universe?
Religious people are ultra-arrogant in their beliefs. Whether they think God speaks to them, cares about what they do, vanquishes their enemies, answers their prayers or ask favors of them.

Yeah, seriously. Can you imagine anything more arrogant than someone like Mother Theresa who thinks she's on a mission FROM GOD? Holy fucking shit, talk about delusions of grandeur.

Everything about religion is false humility and arrogance exemplified to the highest degree.

You know what's humble? To think you're a miserable spec of dust on a tiny rock in the middle of an expanse of space so vast, cold and uncaring that you could murder your entire race ruthlessly without anyone or anything giving a shit or ever knowing. To think that anything you do makes no difference in the long run. To think that your death is your ultimate end and no one above you cares or will do anything to save you.

That's true humility.

Ok well as far as I understand, there's 2 kinds of rich people:

- Wise investors
- Dumbasses

The first category comprises of self-made people and entrepreneurs. Those people will invest their money because they know about money. Whatever system you put in place, they'll know the loopholes to avoid paying taxes anyway. Whenever you'll give any way out of taxes for poorer people, they will exploit it.
One good example was that if you buy a house / building then the money you spent on it for that year won't be taxed ( or something like that ). So rich people would just constantly instantly re-invest money in buildings to avoid paying taxes while still increasing their net worth.

The second type of rich people are the idiots. That's your athletes, lottery winners, super stars etc. People who just fell ass-backwards into giant piles of money. These people will spend they money ANYWAY because they're idiots. They're people like Michael Jackson or Elton John, who make hundreds of millions of dollars and manage TO LOSE IT.

What's the point of taxing idiots like that? They're already pumping all their money into the economy.

So taxing rich people is pretty pointless. Either they're already spending money and making the economy roll or they'll find ways to avoid your taxes.

At 11/2/09 04:03 AM, PhysX wrote:

My whole life, I was the type to watch the news and hear about the routine deaths of military personnel fighting overseas and honestly not think twice about it. I had never imagined that my moment would come where I'd be in that position. I guess I just took everything for granted.

THEN WHY DID YOU JOIN THE ARMY???????????????

I give advice to teenagers in my spare time, what kind of clinic do I have to check into and what pills will I have to take to avoid this behavior in the future?

How do I make some Kalkalash?

Give me the REAL recipe.

- You bored yet?
- Where does the universe come from?
- Explain the 7th dimension to me
- What method of compost is best?
- Beets, bears or bananas?

Pixel games are shit.
Don't make them.

- How many calories are there in one ounce of lamb?
- What martial art is best?
- By what year will humans be able to cure all forms of paralysis?
- seriously negro time vaults were like 30 bucks also why are LEDs 20+ wtf stupid cards fuck the universe
- What are the top10 manliest cartoons of the 80s

At 11/1/09 05:33 PM, Elfer wrote:

Bison bison, Bison bison bison, or just bison in general?

If you are an animal and people say "bison" when they point at you, even if they say it just once, you are gnarly and/or tubular.
You may be qualified for the following activities: surfing, hanging out, dating teenagers, drinking kool-aid.

1.What percentage of people here do you actually think will do anything you say?
2. What do you base this on?
3. Then why do it?
4. Oh really?
5. What are you, some kind of wise guy?

At 11/1/09 04:58 PM, Elfer wrote:

Presumably he's still in Lancaster and just busy with shit.

what a fag

Ah, I see you're not a subscriber to the "Fish is not meat" idea.

Yeah I went to school apparently : (

Personally I would advocate bison, mainly because the two major American Bison species are named Bison bison and Bison bison bison. No bullshit, look it up.

This just in: Bison one of world's radest animal.

At 11/1/09 03:34 PM, Elfer wrote:

Whatever dude, you could get time vaults for a few bucks even after people found out about the rules change.

Few bucks being 30-40$
:(

I'm trying to make a Legacy Ichorid deck because it's super-cheap and you can practically translate it to vintage with just 4 bazaars. That you proxy. Because I'm not spending 800+$ for a playset holy fuck.

Anyway, try pairing lentils with cumin and lamb and tell me how it goes.

Lamb smells like wool unless you robbed it from the crib also aren't you vegetarian?
Maybe that was Earfetish.

Question: where is Earfetish?

To be honest, without sealing yourself in a calorimeter it's really hard to know how much you're using.

My theory is that I shat out everything in my colon and I started already very loaded.
That's probably like 5-6 pounds right there. If my prediction is correct, I should regain weight as I start eating normally. Weight that is actually POO

Avocado, ginger, walnut, bison.

Bison? No way. I say salmon.

Now, get out there and make some grilled bison with avocado-ginger-walnut dressing.

How much chocolate goes in this?

At 11/1/09 03:05 PM, citricsquid wrote:

Dear poxpower, fuck you. Newgrounds provide content for us to digest and enjoy under the assumption we will view adverts,

Huh, no, the ads are there to make money as long as they'll work.
No NG user owes NG ANYTHING. Every free content web owner understands that they are providing a service for free.
No one has to come here. It's a privilege to get so many people. NG is privileged to have so many users, it's not the users who are privileged to have NG.

If you like the site and want to support it, then click the ads, buy things at the store, make games etc.
But if you don't give a shit whether this site sinks or floats, then block the ads. You don't owe them anything.

At 11/1/09 12:49 PM, SteveGuzzi wrote:

Like, you see how the ads are framed by the NG table layout dealio, the gray fade with rounded corners then pixel box THEN the ad inside? Yeah, that entire section disappears. No empty black box, no hollow frame, just a seamless transition from the navbar to the next section without a space in-between.

Woah that's awesome. Suddenly I want it.

Anyway the truth is that if you want to support a website, buy their shit or click their ads. They'll get more money from one ad click than a thousand ads served and more money from you buying a keychain than from them serving like 10 000 ads.
Ads on the web are almost entirely worthless at this point :o

I don't know about those annoying forced video ads though that youtube has started doing recently. That's starting to seem like a deal-breaker to me.

The main deal with content-serving website like newgrounds, somethingawful, youtube etc. is that they give entertainment / information for free. The second you do that, people don't owe you anything.
You can put all the ads you want, people don't have to click them and if you feel cheated by that, tough shit.

What, play the vault deck? What am I, a billionaire?

also:

- Is it possible to raise your IQ, by how much and how fast?
- Where do you buy your green tea?
- What's the best recipes that use lentils?
- Explain what's happening here: http://www.thepoxbox.com/contentimages/c alorieladder6.jpg ( weight lines ). Did I break the laws of physics?
- What is the healthiest fruit, vegetable, nut and meat. PICK ONLY ONE OF EACH >:(

Ok now for the hard question:

- I am playing vintage manaless ichorid. Should I pack sutured ghouls / dragon breath or instead opt for sadistic hypnotists?

- How long do you figure it will take me to train myself to do the lucid dreaming thing?

- How many people have died thus far of H1N1 and how do you like them apples?

At 11/1/09 12:32 PM, Elfer wrote:

Discuss your issues with the gang over at the Large Penis Support Group.

Finally a great organization I can pretend to belong to.

THe thing is that people block banner ads.
What is that shit? There's a space on the website designed SPECIFICALLY for them. If you block them and replace them with a black square, you have achieved nothing other than make sure ads are worth less and less overall on the web.

It's basically like buying a magazine with all the ads blacked out instead of just removed :O

At 11/1/09 12:09 PM, STEM wrote:

At 11/1/09 12:08 PM, poxpower wrote: What are the 3 rules one must follow to set up traps?

That sounds like a gameshow question in which the person asking already knows the answer >:(

That's because it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB6suLR25 zw

What are the 3 rules one must follow to set up traps?

At 10/31/09 03:55 PM, RubberTrucky wrote:

But there is no natural law that tells me which random decisions I consciously make.

And this is based on what?
The only possible way that could be true is if your brain was composed of some element that wasn't part of the physical world.

Seeing as its not, I could use your reasoning to say that, say, computers who make random decisions do so not based on the laws of physics, which anyone can plainly see is false.

At 11/1/09 12:04 AM, Elfer wrote:

It's like finding a computer on an alien planet, and having this conversation:
P1: Hmm, that's weird, I wonder why this computer is here.
P2: Well, obviously it was put here by a bigger, more complicated computer that existed before this one
P1: Well, where did that computer come from then?
P2: NOT IMPORTANT.

Wow Elfer, you're so stupid! It's quite obvious that the bigger computer was always there! It makes sense because HEY LOOK OVER THERE A NAKED CHICK!

At 10/31/09 02:05 PM, RubberTrucky wrote:

But if I were to choose for a leaded die, my choice should not be affected by physics of the outside world.

Huuuh... why?

At 10/30/09 05:33 PM, riemannSum wrote:

At 10/30/09 02:58 PM, poxpower wrote:

At 10/30/09 02:02 PM, riemannSum wrote:

To make some

Explain.

If you spend money developing and promoting a meat substitute, you will make money.
Like the soy industry. KA-CHING

We're not putting an old crappy thing out of business. This isn't progress.

It's not strictly technological progress, but it's progress by almost every way people use to measure progress.

I eat as much meat as I can possibly get my hands on and I'm perfectly healthy.

Or I could have a nice diverse meal and spend a few extra dollars.

Well pick one: do you eat as much meat as possible or do you just eat a little meat with you meals?

If you're talking about the methane cows produce, I still don't care.

Raising farm animals is a more damageable form of agriculture than just about anything. Starting with the simple fact that to make 1 pound of beef you need to first grow 10 pounds of grain.

I have no reason to believe I'll have heart problems, diabetes, or obesity. On top of that I live a very active, physical lifestyle which requires I intake a large amount of calories and protein.

You could replace the meat with vegetables and pretty much be strictly better off.

Meat isn't poisonous or anything, it's just that the way it's part of people's lifestyles makes it one of the primary reasons why they get so fucked up. If you eat reasonable amounts you'll be fine obviously.

But the meat vs vegetable arguments pretty much all favor the vegan side. The only real reason you'd have for eating meat is because you like it and don't give a shit about the environment. Which is a good enough reason for me.

At 10/30/09 02:02 PM, riemannSum wrote:

Why spend the money?

To make some

now hundreds of thousands of jobs are out because you found a way to make animal harvesting unnecessary.

Boo hoo. That's how the world works: you invent something better than what exists and you put the people who did the old crappy thing out of business.
No one wept for the walkman or the cassette tape when MP3 players were invented.

Now, I still don't understand why we should give a shit about animals and how we treat them?

We shouldn't.
Animals are stupid.

But if you care about your health, then don't eat so many animals.
If you care about your wallet, don't eat so many animals.
If you want to save the earth for later destruction, don't eat so many animals.

Sparing animals from suffering is the least compelling reason to not eat them and the most promoted by dipshits like PETA.

Put a stack of studies that show a correlation between steak and hearth attacks in front of a person's fat diabetic face and you'll convince them way faster than by petting a chicken in front of them and dumping blood on celebrities. No one likes celebrities anyway >: (

Holy fuck you people are stupid.
It's like none of you read anything except the title of this thread.

First off, this doesn't have anything to do with time-travel. Seeing the past is not time travel.

Second, I don't think that light will just travel in a straight line all the way to you unaltered through 100 million lightyears of space. It depends what you're looking at but most likely your light will be bent, dissipated or blocked by something by the time it reaches whatever point you pick.

I don't really know enough about this to tell you what your planet would look like as seen from X lightyears away. Maybe it would work really well until X distance but then get blurry eventually, or shift towards red colors? Who knows.

My main point is: you guys are stupid.

I don't know why we don't eat cats and dogs.
There's so many in abandoned shelters that we just put down and dump in the garbage. You could feed thousands of homeless people with those cats and dogs.

But I sure as hell know why people don't keep cows as pets.
Or chickens. If you keep a chicken as a pet, you're a crazy person.