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At 9/7/11 06:49 PM, Dean wrote:

At 9/7/11 06:33 PM, JonWB2005 wrote: We did this thread last week asshole,

No need to be so rude, sir. But yea, a similar thread was created very recently:

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1268 900

Thanks, and to the other douchebag fuck you I didn't know cocksucking bitch, the fuck you care? You didn't HAVE to look at this thread fuckface.

First off: This is 100% my opinion, so don't be douchebags and act like it's a known FACT that one is better than the other.

Honestly, I feel nostalgic as all hell about Fallout 3, in my opinion the locations had so much more content than in NV, and there were more (counting unmarked locations). Everywhere had a backstory, everything seemed worth learning about, it was an adventure, it had discovery. It was more open world as well. I spent well over 240 hours (hell to be honest I think once I noticed 1000 hours recorded but shhh I have a life lol) playing Fallout 3, but New Vegas, I was disappointed. Give me your opinions, which was better and why?

P.S. Don't turn this into a fanboy pissing contest

How about this: NO INCOME TAX, MORE IMPORT TAXES, and other than that the government does NOT get involved in economics. Yes labor unions are necessary, but they shouldn't have government backing, and no company should receive bailouts. Big companies failing and competition among emerging corporations creates more jobs and better quality service.

At 8/24/11 02:12 PM, RightWingGamer wrote:

At 8/24/11 02:03 PM, Polske322 wrote:

It's a WWII game. You don't hafta play as the Russians.

Good then I'll try it

I have a problem with both.

Yay right wing gaming

At 8/24/11 06:47 AM, voidnull wrote: Read about UNIX like OS's. Download Ubuntu.
Learn Python. Then learn C. Then learn Haskell. Then learn Go.
By the time you get to Go(roughly 6-10 years) you won't be new to programming.

Thanks :)

At 8/24/11 01:03 AM, unconsidered wrote: Have you tried Red Orchestra?

No, but being particularly anti communist will I enjoy it (I don't have a problem with communist people just communist regimes)

I have the same problem with words like gay and retard. I have bi friends and have had gay friends, I've had a mentally retarded friend, but I don't use those words to insult gays or retards, just to express general dislike. I hate people who act like saying them is a crime. If anything them stopping me from saying it is a crime.

I'm looking into looking at different video game genres. I love RPGs like Oblivion, Fallout 3 (more than New Vegas), Mass Effect 1 + 2, and Borderlands, I someitmes play arcade shooters like the CoD series but I prefer Battlefield. I like Gmod Terraria and Minecraft etc. I'm looking into playing different types of RPGs, maybe platformers, and generally any type of game I haven't already tried, so go ahead and post a genre and maybe a good game from it and I will be more than thankful :)

Honestly, we don't think Notch should be our slave. The fact is Minecraft has been in beta for too long. We want it wrapped up, but it seems he is losing interest.

The only thing I've done is play around with C++ somewhat. I have no idea how to program anything. So I'm looking for programs I'd need to learn, which does what, and anything else you guys think would be helpful :)

At 8/23/11 11:50 PM, Camarohusky wrote:

Not really... Sure, he has a cult following, but when it comes to the average Joe, Ron paul is just as crazy as Bachmann. Seems like Ron Paul's supporters fall into the disenfranchised college educated youth (who generally think that he's so 'smart' like they are, not realizing his ideas are as naive as a 13 year old girl)

Plus there are the left wing haters lol, honestly no his ideas aren't very extreme. The main point he is making is more power for the states. Unlike many other candidates he wants the states to choose their social policies, not have them made at a national level.

At 8/24/11 12:08 AM, Conspiracy3 wrote: A woman who accuses a man of rape should be charged with kidnapping. She knowingly and maliciously does an act that causes an innocent man to be taken by force against his will to a prison cell. That's straight up kidnapping if you ask me

Agreed, we need to start clamping down on this.

Yeah I do use Steam, but in general I'm going to be looking at what Indie games are coming out and going into my little cave and playing N64 and Gameboy, just because lol, Honestly I think there is ALOT of potential for indie games. They've gotten bigger recently, and we may see more developed and better indie games come out.

At 8/23/11 10:26 PM, djack wrote:

At 8/23/11 10:09 PM, Polske322 wrote:

Choosing the father is just as stupid as choosing the mother. You should choose the person who is going to be the best caretaker for the child. My father is an abusive alcoholic, my mother got sole custody of me in the divorce and that's a good thing. However, I know a woman who still managed to get custody of her kids after being charged with child endangerment because the courts tend to favor the mother (and no the father did not have any criminal record so he should have been the one to receive custody).

I wrote that under the assumption both parents were fit to take care of the child, should have pointed that out sorry

I play alot of genres, and right now I do play both, but I'm saying I might start playing mostly retro games and indie games for financial purposes.

I want other opinions and arguments...

I believe that videogames are in fact a form of art. Like many other forms of art, they are for recreation. They embrace complex stories and try to get an emotional reaction from the player to create a unique, interesting, and emotional experience. Not all videogames succeed at this, just as not all movies or all paintings succeed.
One of the main arguments against videogames is that they do not require skill. Many people believe that for something to be an art it must require a talent or skill that can be perfected and improved upon. When talking about whether or not videogames require skill people generally look at the gamer, the person using the videogame. While playing videogames may or may not require skill, it does not mean they are not art. It is a mistake to look for skill in the gamer, as it would be like looking for the skill in one who is watching a movie, not in the actors or directors. A similar argument could be made against paintings, does it require skill to observe a painting and find it pleasing to the eye? The skill in art is found not in the one using or enjoying it, but in the one's producing it. Just as it takes skill to paint, it takes skill to create a videogame.
Videogames are a collaborative effort between many people of varying skills, everything in the videogame was conceived, designed, perfected, and added into the game. They have concept artists, graphics designers, directors, all working together to make certain the story, visuals, music, and atmosphere come together to create an impressive game. Videogames use sound, visuals, and storytelling to convey emotions unto the player.
All the visuals in a game are deliberate, planned, and have a purpose. From the smallest detail to the grandest building the features of the game are designed to be pleasing to the eye. For example, when creating an in game building, architecture is taken into account to make sure the building looks well designed. Even if they sometimes fail at this, they at least make an attempt. Like paintings, not all videogames look the same, some games are greatly detailed and realistic, such as Call of Duty: Black Ops, while some are realistic yet fantastic such as Dragon Age: Origins. Some videogames have colorful playful graphics like many of the Mario games or De Blob.
These visuals are designed to aid the atmosphere of a game. Videogames incorporate atmosphere in a similar way to movies. Happy or joy-filled moments are usually bright and warm looking, such as the scene from Homefront when the main character first goes into the resistance's base. Sad dramatic moments are dark and sometimes raining or gray, such as the final scenes from Mafia II. Horror games are usually dark and objects are hard to make out until up close, such as in Dead Space. All of these scenes also contain ambient noise or music, which adds to the conveyed emotions.
Sound also plays a major role in games. Every noise from the footsteps of the character, the banging of machine gun fire, or the voices of the character, affect the game. The developers take much time considering what they want the game to sound like. Do they want loud thumping footsteps that alert the player to approaching enemies? Do they want loud, slow paced, explosive sounding guns that give the player a sense of power? All the sounds have a purpose. The background music often compliments the mood of the game. Soft low music is used at more emotional parts and fast paced exciting music at parts with action.
The visuals and atmosphere add to the feel of the game itself. The open, empty atmosphere of Fallout 3 gives a feeling of a massive world with much to explore. The game itself was designed to give this feeling, with large open spaces between major locations littered with more minor locations, most of which have some story behind them and give the player reason to explore. At the same time the major locations are packed to the brim with places to explore and things to find. This gives the player the feeling that everything there has purpose, that there is a history behind the world they are in and gives incentive to explore. Games like Red Dead: Redemption have gigantic, beautiful landscapes that seem to span indefinitely, and the amount of detail the creators put into creating the world, and its many locations and storylines, is incredible. Many times the game world is stunning, as you look across a beautifully designed landscape that seems absolutely massive, it gives the player a sense of awe.
Another argument against videogames is that they lack story and are generic. This is not true, while there are many generic games that have little to no story many games have a deep intellectual story. Both of the Modern Warfare games of the Call of Duty series have interesting and emotional stories that at times make the player think, even though they are considered by many as mindless run-and-gun games. Some games that stand out for their stories are Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect, and Mass Effect 2. These games have stories with many characters and many factors at work. Every action the player makes has consequences and benefits that change the outcome of the game. At the same time the creators went in depth in making the game and the world feels significant. The players actually care about their choices more than just to get the "best" outcome and many get intrigued as to how the story could have gone differently. Like art it endows emotions to the user. Many points in the story involve moral choices that are never just black and white, and often, like art, present interesting perspectives on different scenarios.
Another argument against videogames is that they are, well, games. How could something recreational be art? Well, are movies not a form of recreation? Books? Music? All of those are art. Art itself often does not have a purpose other than our own amusement. Therefore, videogames cannot be excluded on the basis of being recreational. Yet, much like other forms of art, videogames can have a message, and can make us think. They are a form of expression and can hold unique and interesting opinions. Often they present futures we do not want, like Homefront, and make us consider our actions now, make us think: "are we going down the right road politically?"
Videogames meet all the criteria to be art and should be considered such. While there are bad games that could be used as examples of how they are not, many games are incredible visually and have complex storylines. Videogames are a form of art.

I tried to put spaces before the new paragraphs, kinda failed, sorry.

Here is a essay I wrote on it:

I believe that videogames are in fact a form of art. Like many other forms of art, they are for recreation. They embrace complex stories and try to get an emotional reaction from the player to create a unique, interesting, and emotional experience. Not all videogames succeed at this, just as not all movies or all paintings succeed.
One of the main arguments against videogames is that they do not require skill. Many people believe that for something to be an art it must require a talent or skill that can be perfected and improved upon. When talking about whether or not videogames require skill people generally look at the gamer, the person using the videogame. While playing videogames may or may not require skill, it does not mean they are not art. It is a mistake to look for skill in the gamer, as it would be like looking for the skill in one who is watching a movie, not in the actors or directors. A similar argument could be made against paintings, does it require skill to observe a painting and find it pleasing to the eye? The skill in art is found not in the one using or enjoying it, but in the one's producing it. Just as it takes skill to paint, it takes skill to create a videogame.
Videogames are a collaborative effort between many people of varying skills, everything in the videogame was conceived, designed, perfected, and added into the game. They have concept artists, graphics designers, directors, all working together to make certain the story, visuals, music, and atmosphere come together to create an impressive game. Videogames use sound, visuals, and storytelling to convey emotions unto the player.
All the visuals in a game are deliberate, planned, and have a purpose. From the smallest detail to the grandest building the features of the game are designed to be pleasing to the eye. For example, when creating an in game building, architecture is taken into account to make sure the building looks well designed. Even if they sometimes fail at this, they at least make an attempt. Like paintings, not all videogames look the same, some games are greatly detailed and realistic, such as Call of Duty: Black Ops, while some are realistic yet fantastic such as Dragon Age: Origins. Some videogames have colorful playful graphics like many of the Mario games or De Blob.
These visuals are designed to aid the atmosphere of a game. Videogames incorporate atmosphere in a similar way to movies. Happy or joy-filled moments are usually bright and warm looking, such as the scene from Homefront when the main character first goes into the resistance's base. Sad dramatic moments are dark and sometimes raining or gray, such as the final scenes from Mafia II. Horror games are usually dark and objects are hard to make out until up close, such as in Dead Space. All of these scenes also contain ambient noise or music, which adds to the conveyed emotions.
Sound also plays a major role in games. Every noise from the footsteps of the character, the banging of machine gun fire, or the voices of the character, affect the game. The developers take much time considering what they want the game to sound like. Do they want loud thumping footsteps that alert the player to approaching enemies? Do they want loud, slow paced, explosive sounding guns that give the player a sense of power? All the sounds have a purpose. The background music often compliments the mood of the game. Soft low music is used at more emotional parts and fast paced exciting music at parts with action.
The visuals and atmosphere add to the feel of the game itself. The open, empty atmosphere of Fallout 3 gives a feeling of a massive world with much to explore. The game itself was designed to give this feeling, with large open spaces between major locations littered with more minor locations, most of which have some story behind them and give the player reason to explore. At the same time the major locations are packed to the brim with places to explore and things to find. This gives the player the feeling that everything there has purpose, that there is a history behind the world they are in and gives incentive to explore. Games like Red Dead: Redemption have gigantic, beautiful landscapes that seem to span indefinitely, and the amount of detail the creators put into creating the world, and its many locations and storylines, is incredible. Many times the game world is stunning, as you look across a beautifully designed landscape that seems absolutely massive, it gives the player a sense of awe.
Another argument against videogames is that they lack story and are generic. This is not true, while there are many generic games that have little to no story many games have a deep intellectual story. Both of the Modern Warfare games of the Call of Duty series have interesting and emotional stories that at times make the player think, even though they are considered by many as mindless run-and-gun games. Some games that stand out for their stories are Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect, and Mass Effect 2. These games have stories with many characters and many factors at work. Every action the player makes has consequences and benefits that change the outcome of the game. At the same time the creators went in depth in making the game and the world feels significant. The players actually care about their choices more than just to get the "best" outcome and many get intrigued as to how the story could have gone differently. Like art it endows emotions to the user. Many points in the story involve moral choices that are never just black and white, and often, like art, present interesting perspectives on different scenarios.
Another argument against videogames is that they are, well, games. How could something recreational be art? Well, are movies not a form of recreation? Books? Music? All of those are art. Art itself often does not have a purpose other than our own amusement. Therefore, videogames cannot be excluded on the basis of being recreational. Yet, much like other forms of art, videogames can have a message, and can make us think. They are a form of expression and can hold unique and interesting opinions. Often they present futures we do not want, like Homefront, and make us consider our actions now, make us think: "are we going down the right road politically?"
Videogames meet all the criteria to be art and should be considered such. While there are bad games that could be used as examples of how they are not, many games are incredible visually and have complex storylines. Videogames are a form of art.

I have to be honest, while there are still some big games I'm going to buy as soon as they hit the shelves, I'm sick of spending 60$ every time I get a new game. Recently I've started playing cheaper indie games, like Minecraft or Terraria, and found they're just as fun as the "big league games" Now I spend less and play just as much. Also, the indie game community has been expanding a lot thanks to Steam, XBLA, PSN, and other ways of getting cheap games via the internet. Indie games will only get better.
Even more recently I decided to pick up my old Gameboy and play some Mario for old times' sake. It was fun and I couldn't stop playing. Recently my friends bought N64s and Gamecubes and bought some retro games, which are way cheaper than new ones, but still incredibly fun. I think I might eventually make an official switch to indie/retro games. (btw before you bring it up I don't care at all about graphics, the game just has to be fun)

People say a child needs a mother more than a father and that is why women should win custody more often. I disagree. I've had many friends who grew up and are growing up without their father (many of them live in the projects) They tend to be totally undisciplined, because their mother does have the balls (quite literally) to punish them. The children also hold anger about not being able to see their father. Sometimes the mother doesn't even care. Shared custody is the best choice, but if you had to choose between the two I'd choose the father.

It's seeming more likely Ron Paul will run for president. Everybody who is a liberal conservative or to the right of that who I've talked to says they'll gladly vote for Paul. Ron would could sway the independents and conservative liberals.

The thing is, Russia and China would never team up together. Yes they are both fairly Anti-American, but they share a border, and like most countries that share a border they have problems with each other. They don't even have the same interests, China wants to expand its economy, and watch that of the U.S. collapse, they don't want to risk a hot war and are going for an economic war. Honestly a second cold war could happen with them. Russia on the other hand, wants militaristic expansion and (like they always have) wants to control Eastern Europe. They don't like each other, and couldn't help each other much if they did.

Debate which is better. I personally feel Battlefield 3 will be, it is more a realistic war simulator while CoD is more of an arcade shooter. CoD is a fantastic game though, but I think the developers need to learn we won't mindlessly buy everything they put out because of minor tweaks, a slightly altered story, and new guns. Plus Battlefield encourages teamwork more, which I find fun when I have a small group of friends and we work to take and hold objectives and all communicate without the "Faggot! You suck dick! Look at me K/D!" You get in CoD.

The point of believing in God isn't to have a "level playing field." In modern times there are two main reasons people believe in God (as applies to Christianity): One, hope for an afterlife. Two, spirituality. I believe in God for a mixture of both reasons, primarily the former. I think that having faith, loyalty, hope, and believing in helping people for the sake of kindness are good attributes. Religion teaches that, and very few people actually believe the creationist stories and etc. Yes religion will be abused, but so will science. In religion you have hell-fire preachers and corrupt Popes, in science you have people pushing political agendas and false statistics. Neither is more common than the other. Believing wholly in God or science would be a mistake, one for moral reasons, one for intellectual reasons.

Honestly Notch should be working on updating Minecraft and releasing the final version. All this says is he got bored and might not even do that. The truth is Notch can be lazy.

Honestly the American Jews are the ones most aggressive on this subject. I've met some Israelis and they just want the fighting to stop, they don't care about rooting out terrorist groups and believe that their government is in fact oppressing the Palestinians. American Jews seem to have more loyalty towards Israel than America. I don't mean all of them, I have a lot of Jewish friends whom are very patriotic or just don't care about politics what so ever.

Let's ask another question. Why should the United States support Israel, it being an illegitimate nation? The Palestinians had lived in Palestine for centuries after the Israelis left or were forced out. There was no Israeli culture or political body present in Israel. After being forced off there land the Palestinians fought and still are fighting to regain it. By supporting Israel, the terrorists also see us as an enemy. They are not enemies of freedom, they do not actively attack the United States because we are a republic, they attack us because of our support of an illegitimate state which forced millions out of their homes.
On top of that, what benefit does supporting Israel provide the U.S.? Nothing. They refuse to share their intelligence and even attempt to illegally develop nuclear arms. In fact, Israeli spies have been caught spying on the U.S. Israel does not treat us as an ally, and should America collapse would offer no help to us. The United States should not support Israel.