2,064 Forum Posts by "Politics"
At 9/5/07 11:11 PM, Malachy wrote: what's good is you get some nasty cheap ham slices and some swiss cheese and some mayo, you microwave your sandwich for like 30 seconds and you've got yourself a tasty melt
Cooked ham is absolute shit. I wouldn't touch it no matter how cheap it is. I'd rather get toupee, honey, or black forest, which aren't usually that much more expensive anyways.
The swiss cheese and mayo idea is top drawer, though.
At 9/5/07 09:25 PM, Malachy wrote: if I'm lucky they might have some smoked extra sharp.
The fancy cheeses are in the deli at the place I work in. Everywhere else involves variations of chedder.
I have the urge for a honey ham and swiss cheese sandwich, right now.
THAT'S RIGHT, I READ THE DELI PAMPHLETS ON CHEESE+MEAT COMBINATIONS.
:D
I attended my first University classes today. They went by surprisingly quickly.
Also I'm beginning to think I post too infrequently, especially in the past year. I completely missed the discussion about cheese, and I work in a fucking deli.
The Internet needs more King porn.
God, praise be, tests our faith with "Airports" and "Seeing airplanes in the sky." Whoever falls for that shit is a total n00b.
So ask yourself: Are you a n00b?
At 8/25/07 06:30 PM, animehater wrote: Does the phrase "I don't have any ears can I borrow yours" mean anything to anyone?
Maybe with some punctuation and tone to put it in perspective.
At 8/25/07 06:59 PM, Der-Lowe wrote: Pics or it didn't happen?
I lack a device to take said pics.
fa la la laaaa
Have I mentioned that I bought a car here yet? I don't think I have. It's a 1998 Chrysler Intrepid. :D
Suddenly my bank account doesn't look so spiffy anymore.
At 8/22/07 03:39 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: That's all it can rely on... People can change appearances, people can swap plane tickets etc.. a passport can easily be detected if it is a forgery. The security guards detain people whose names are on the list, this doesn't mean that they never cross-reference the people later on.
Having a birth date and a picture come up with the name tends to help too, you know. If Javaid Iqbal, the man, managed to change his appearance into a 7-year-old boy, then his plastic surgeon is a fucking God.
All they needed or can do that the moment was detain people who they are supposed to and screen passengers over all.
Indeed they were. So why not give them the tools to do so?
Why do you hate America, Cellardoor6? Why? :'(
What has freedom ever done to you?
It's an impossibility to have everyone seamlessly connected to homeland security, with all the records and so forth.
Kind of like how it's impossible for two people (who happen to be hundreds of kilometers apart) to casually argue about an article involving a boy from the UK getting stuck at American airports, and what it means?
Or maybe they don't believe in technology created in the past 30 years.
Security guards SHOULDN'T have the authority to just let anyone pass because they believe they aren't a thread, thats an idiotic idea. Security guards provide security, they aren't intelligence officers. They are subordinate to people who make those decisions, they have to wait for their orders.
So security guards shouldn't let anyone through airport security? Because I'm fairly sure that's going to keep a lot of people grounded.
"Excuse me, ma'am, your 3-year-old has the physical ability to weld a weapon, we can't let him into the country. For that matter, you're going to have to go with these officers for a cavity search."
I see absolutely nothing wrong with holding people because their name is on a list of wanted people.
Names can change, just like anything else. Relying entirely on a name is too much pressure for one mode of identification to handle in an issue as important as security.
You're conveniently ignoring the overall context and choosing to single out America for something that will take place in any country that is under threat from terrorism and therefore has tight security. You're making a political issue out of a simple mistake.
Poor America. All singled out and alone. AND BIG BAD ME BEING A BIG BULLY. Surely I hate America because I'm jealous of your freedom. Everything comes down to nationality, after all.
When really, it shouldn't even involve a Canadian like you. The only way you involve yourself is because you're pretending you're truly concerned about people's convenience, when really you just want something to rip on America for.
So right about now you just have nothing, and so you're pointing out that because I'm Canadian, it shouldn't concern my pretty little head? Okay, Cellar. I'll go back to baking cookies and handling that Afghanistan thing, and you Americans just sit back and discuss American things while I quietly work.
If you were actually concerned about the act of airport security making mistakes, then you'd consider James Hetfield being detained for having a beard in the UK as entirely applicable.
Hahahahahahaha
But nope, you're determined to make this an "America did this" topic, so you ignore that this also happened in the UK, to an even more ridiculous degree.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I felt now is a good time to bring up these quotes.
It just makes it pathetic that you'd pretend you actually care about airport security and its efficiency, when something related is discounted by you, and you pretend it's a diversion from the topic... a topic that you PRETEND only concerns you due to the act of airport security making mistakes..
ARE YOU CALLING ME A PHONY?
NOU
You have to resort to idiotic humor as a defense mechanism. It's just hilarious how you keep trying to pretend your opinion in this matter isn't just a byproduct of your Canadian inferiority complex, but then when someone says something you know is entirely true, you just play it off and joke around as it suits you.
Actually, the opinion I'm expressing is just a vehicle for the humour. But you haven't caught on to that, yet.
That's psychiatry...
Nice try though.
Zing.
At 8/22/07 02:38 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: I see it really as just overzealousness. This is a result of them being too cautious and being too concrete in protocol. It should be fixed, but I don't think the entire system needs to be overhauled when its current structure is focused on security first and foremost.
As suggested in the article, cross-referencing does wonders, as well as a system which doesn't rely solely on a single name on a passport. Both of those changes would be amendments, rather than an overhaul, and do tremendous good. Also providing proper amounts of information about those on the "No fly" list would help.
There is no underlying social or political implications, it's simply a byproduct of tight security.
You don't think airports who fail to communicate with each other, have poorly informed security agents without proper files on those within the "No fly" list, and don't have the efficiency nor right to move obviously false threats though quickly, bypassing needless bureaucracy is a problem?
whose sole purpose is to rip on America
The article is about American airports. And I have yet to say that American airport security policies doesn't apply to other countries, nor that "LULZ AMURICA SUX."
I don't believe that.
Oh darn, you caught me.
Every time NaRuTo666 accuses US officials of racism, an angel gets her wings.I don't even know what you're talking about.
I love you.
Even if someone is taught something, if that thing they are taught goes against a strong, foundational view they have, they will attack the source as a sort of defense mechanism so that they can ignore what they have actually learned.
Even if someone is taught something, if that thing they are taught goes against a strong, foundational view they have, they will attack the source as a sort of defense mechanism so that they can ignore what they have actually learned.
Stop bouncing thoughts off of me, your thoughts are like radiation, they degrade brain matter.
biew biew
Simply psychology.
And how does that make you feel?
At 8/22/07 02:02 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Now you're saying that since I didn't mean to DISPROVE American paranoia by using that link, you're saying I was suggesting I wasn't arguing...
No "Har har"? Not even a "Tee-hee"?
Come on, Cellar, congress doesn't need your decision on this matter until tomorrow morning. Loosen up.
By showing an even bigger of airport security being illogical, it reveals the double standard that people have in perceiving this subject. I never said that it disproved what happened, I just showed that the CONCLUSION that someone came to was ridiculous.
If you ever do standup and not record the show, I will never forgive you. YOU LAUGHBAG, YOU.
What is perceived to be a system flaw... which is a result of paranoia.
No, it's the result of poor communication and poor informing of key agents in the security of American airports.
Damn, you need to go back to school; your comprehension of English is pretty weak.
Fixed. :)
Ok, then your sense of humor is even less developed than your English comprehension.
You don't get satire, eh?
Nope. He said that the system is stupid, yet he is basing this on his very limited, almost nonexistent understanding of the issue.
If we're prohibiting the poorly informed from discussing political issues now, I say the first thing we do is shut down this forum, because I don't think many people here have political degrees of any kind. Or we could continue some reasonable discussion revolving around the posted link, and an acceptable amount of logical digression stemming from it, and stop evading the issue.
And now YOU are resorting to mindless semantics, and it seems the subject of the thread has gone over your head considering you've devoted your entire participation in it around me personally.
Assuming your striking capitalization of the word "You" indicates an accusation of hypocrisy, allow me to defend myself by pointing out that I haven't accused you of any mindless semantics. I have, however, accused you of pointless namecalling, but I feel I did it in a more humourous way of just calling everyone a "Moron" or "Retarded." That usually counts for something.
Good way at now revealing how once you lose an argument, you start resort to mindless semantics.
I have to ask: Is your apparently mistaken belief in the meaning of "Semantics" a brilliantly dry, ironic joke, or is it just an error on your part? I lol'd.
At 8/22/07 01:47 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: I don't find anything grievously wrong with what happened. Inconveniencing a boy and his family isn't dreadful in the face of, you know, terrorists blowing people to pieces inside of our country.
The instance itself is spilled milk. The implications, however, can readily be interpreted as a failure on the amount of information and communication being exchanged in airports. It means a hole in the safety net.
However, TheRoyalEnglishman came to some grand political conclusion, based on his all-encompassing bias, that is in no way validated by this article. People are using this as political ammunition, while these very same people have ignored or will disregard similar instances of airport security making mistakes in THEIR country.
When the time to discuss Tadzhikistan's border policies comes, we'll get to it. Until then, this is about the US.
A kid got held up at the airport a few times... "OMG AMERICANS ARE RACIST AND STUPID AND THE SECURITY AND IT'S DISGUSTING THIS MEANS STUFF ABOUT AMERICA"
Hahaha. Yeah, and those people didn't even read the article. I just shrugged and appreciated the laugh I got out of it. "OGM TEHY R SO RASCIST"
when its occurence in America is used as political ammunition to create a political jab based on larger, pre-existing bias against the US.
Every time NaRuTo666 accuses US officials of racism, an angel gets her wings.
I believe that you're only arguing because you disagree with my broader views, and instead of addressing them, you're singling me out and pretending that my views, although entirely legitimate and factual, somehoy are moot because of some personality trait of mine.
That's not true at all. I have nothing against you personally, and believe strongly that keeping internet grudges is inane. You just happen to be one of the few coherent posters here I can disagree with and bounce thoughts off of.
Even if you do have a tendency to get overly belligerent.
You're the kind of person who just like the person I replied to originally, is more interested in the political implications of something than what it actually means in reality.
I am indeed, because considering and interpreting implications is important - often more important than explicitness.
Bush
Whom?
At 8/22/07 01:24 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: Where did I say that I disproved him? Oh that's right, this was just another one of your little fabrications you love so much whenever you need to get even for being humiliated in other topics.
You weren't arguing with him, but you called him a moron anyways? Badass.
I simply showed that if he thinks US security is paranoid, then British security is even more so. Paranoia is relative, you're considered "paranoid" if you're MORE cautious than others. If US security is paranoid... the British security is out of its mind in paranoia by contrast.
So you didn't mean to disprove it, but you did anyways? Shit, man, you must be embarrassed. Woops!
And I'm not sure in what order you write these posts - whether it be from the top down, or reading the whole thing over and planning it as a whole - but the amount of "Paranoia" felt has nothing to do with the issue. This is about system flaw. You might have already come to this conclusion.
Sometimes I think you have a learning disability of some sort. Once again, you entirely ignore the actual context and instead say something that is in no way applicable, but what you think is edgy at the moment.
I thought the way he linked to a wiki article randomly was brilliantly funny stuff.
And that's coming from you? You, a dumb little 17 year old kid who still lives with his parents is criticizing a system developed by security professions with years of education and experience?
The issue -------->
Your head
Do you think being wrong in basically everything you ever say helps your argument in any way?
OH SHIT, YOU BETTER JUST GIVE UP. HE'S BREAKIN' OUT THE SMACK-TALK HE SAW ON WWE RAW LAST NIGHT.
At 8/22/07 01:06 AM, Politics wrote: Though I liked Cuppa-LettuceNog's response, I want to make one point:
Make that one and a half.
Though I liked Cuppa-LettuceNog's response, I want to make one point:
At 0/00/00 00:00 AM, cellardoor6-and-Proteas wrote: James Hetfield
Simply using the UK's similar failure in proper security doesn't excuse the United States from fault in this situation, nor would it in any other situation involving American fault. Being in a crowd doesn't justify stupidity on your own part, even if your friends are doing it.
At 0/00/00 00:00 AM, cellardoor6 wrote: You think that detaining someone because they have an identical name of someone who they are ORDERED to stop is paranoia...
The failure of security agents to recognize an obvious fault in the security of your nation's airports, insistence to reinforce that fault, and then not properly communicate with other airports to prevent this error from occuring more than once, which it did, is rather concerning. If the word "Paranoia" is necessary to drive the point home that there's a problem - and hopefully evoke thought - then let it be.
yet you don't find it odd that they detained someone just because they had a beard?
Do you have conversations with people on this board in your head, and then carry those conversations over to real posts?
Um... his name was the same maybe?
That's his point. You, as a unique being, are not placed on a watch list and labeled a potential threat to national security on a legitimate basis based of your name. The 7-year-old obviously didn't belong on it, and like expressed in the article, a better watch-list system is needed.
You fail to realize that his NAME was what was emphasized and the security were simply doing what they are SUPPOSED to do.
The guards are not at fault. You're right. So right about now, most people ask themselves: Who or what is at fault, and how do we fix it?
They did what they are ordered to do, they don't have access to the information and simply do what they have to do with the little information they have. Even if they personally knew the kid and his parents were innocent, they don't have the AUTHORITY to just let the kid through without a check.
Emphasis on the immediately-above quoted clauses for basis-source of argument presented by me within this post.
Get a clue instead of allowing your pathetic, retarded, all-encompassing desire to rip on Americans turn you into a complete moron unable to think subjectively.
Constructive criticism makes people and nations stronger; needless insults please nobody.
I can't help but to get the impression that you aren't arguing because you truly believe any of this, but rather because it's convenient to you, and this thread challenges your patriotic belief that your nation is without flaw. If you want to be part of the solution, begin to acknowledge problems so that they may be fixed, even if it does lead you to be eventually given the dreaded "Liberal" label. Neglecting those parts of your nation that need help the most isn't patriotism; it's far from it.
Yeah, we're talking about how much Gunter45 hates black people, fag.
At 8/8/07 08:47 PM, Proteas wrote: When it becomes canned music for grocery stores.
If only.
made me want to grab a bread knife and slit my wrists if I heard one more time.
I work in the deli. I'm pretty sure that's why they made the music so quiet that it can't be heard around there: Too many sharp things.
This morning, while I was in the waste-disposal area of the store I work in, that "Welcome to My Life" song by Simple Plan came on over the store-wide sound-system. In the torrent of sun-boiled garbage stench, hard work, and scorching temperature, the music was what forced me to hurry up my work and get the fuck out of the section of the store where I could hear it easily.
How fucking awful can music get before the mass-populace catches on and stops buying it?
At 8/7/07 05:45 PM, SevenSeize wrote: waldo
rofllll
The expression on Waldo's face is my favourite part. And now my throat hurts and my face is tired from laughing.
If there are words which can protect us from the pains we suffer in life, I don't have them. I can only offer you my support and sympathy, Mal.
At 8/3/07 05:34 PM, Der-Lowe wrote: Reading the newspaper makes me feel very frustrated.
Reading this forum makes me feel frustrated. ie: I just caught myself yelling angrily at one of many troll-posts by a certain user on this board, and then reading in awe as people actually try and explain minor ideas to him.
Things just aren't the same way I saw them some time ago. :/
At 7/30/07 05:52 PM, SolInvictus wrote: Trudeau worst Canadian? i thought he was considered one of the best.
He is. He was probably one of the most polarizing personalities in Canadian politics. He was quite the character, as summarized in an above post.
God, I have to start watching this show. IT'S HILARIOUS. Not just the edited together clips refuting him, either. All of it.
I really hope this discussion doesn't turn into something uglier involving issues, rather than the man's insidious character...
I also hope the word "insidious" isn't too complimentary a term.
At 7/30/07 05:57 PM, reviewer-general wrote: Too bad it's play money :(
Yeah, that's how they make money. They convince you you're good with shitty, computer controlled AI, and a bit of "luck," then throw an ad for a real online poker game and get you hooked. That's when they set you straight, and in the process take a bunch of your money.
They're slight assholes.
At 7/28/07 10:25 PM, Grammer wrote:At 7/28/07 05:50 PM, Proteas wrote: Grammar, Cellardoor, take it to the PM system. I am not in the mood.After the fifth "kill yourself" I decided to block him
Oh, you kids and your games.
At 7/27/07 09:41 PM, Proteas wrote:At 7/27/07 05:59 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote: My Fallout CD broke today.It's always sad when that happens, I don't cae who the artist is.
Fallout, not Fallout Boy. I made the same mistake reading that the first 3 times. When I realized what it actually said, I breathed a sigh of relief and could understand his pain. Also, I could understand Stafff's joke.
Evidently the cardboard WASN'T made in China.
At 7/23/07 11:27 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: Honestly, every time I've ever entered the room I'll see "lolz fagz, anus, anal, dildo, rim job" or something of that nature within 20 second
Not only can I see that happening, but I can't not see it happening.
I don't know when the new flash-based chat will be up and running, but it looks a whole lot better than the hold one.
Eh, should definitely be interesting, to say the least. I want to know how PsychoGoldfish is pulling off a chat system without resorting to an IRCd, and how it'll all fare when users have to keep a browser window open the whole time while in it. It's a recipe for keeping regulars out and the General forum idiots in.
At 7/23/07 10:36 PM, cellardoor6 wrote: he abused his powers and muted peoples' microphone whenever he disagreed with them or wanted to talk instead of them. He was de-adminned because of this, and was confronted with it all and he basically had a bit of a temper tantrum.
Abuse of admin powers in that room isn't so uncommon, in my experience. I see them muting and removing each other if they so much as disagree with another opinion. And then the IRC room gets called archaic and removed because we were a bit unfriendly to Wade and the other javas who wandered in, even though you'd be hard-pressed to find ops abusing their powers in the IRC room.
Bah. I'm still so conflicted about the chat removal. On one hand, we got burned by our forceful removal from the teat of NG for amusing java-client running fuckoffs. On the other hand, we don't have to put up with java-client running fuckoffs. Hmm.
RANT RANT RANT
Also, Paltalk is to online chatting as 4chan is to Internet forums. There, I said it.
At 7/20/07 08:16 AM, Elfer wrote: Happy birthday to me.
How about that, my 19th birthday falls on a Friday night, and I'm not even going out to get trashed.
Have a happy birthday, man.
At 7/19/07 11:13 PM, SevenSeize wrote: hot and ready
When you put it that way, you're just encouraging them.

