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At 1/11/05 08:43 AM, bcdemon wrote: Maybe the occupants should do something about this if it's a problem. And another thing, how do they know it's terrorists and al queda crossing the border, and how do they also know that lots of weapons are crossing the border? And if they know all this stuff, why the fuck don't they do something about it rather than just complain. Best military in the world my ass, you know all this is going but don't/can't do anything about it. You can "liberate 50 million" people but you can't secure a border?

this man speaks the truth. if they are "pouring" in; implying it's a mass amount; shouldn't it be fairly easy to spot and shoot them dead?

i'm no military sergeant, but having some snipers on location and having them doing judgement calls when they see something suspecious would be a good idea(instead of killing innocent people in mass amounts ala vietnam).

At 1/11/05 09:04 AM, specimen56 wrote: The seperation of Church and State will only work if the states leaders themselves seperate themselves from any church. However, as we all know, George is very Christian. Meaning that the chances of his policies being seperated from his religious background are quite remote.

shouldn't there be something done about this to maintain a religion(big or small) from having a policy/bill passed because it goes with what they believe in?

the structure of our democracy is crumbling little by little in my eyes because of this. i understand a democracy grows and needs changes to be ammended into it's laws, but you have to keep the core intact.

At 1/11/05 09:13 AM, bcdemon wrote: .Heh, I agree, 9/11 pales in comparison to the tsunami. The deaths, the destruction, the flow of help from the world community, all major differences between the two that seperate them. 9/11 was caused by US foriegn policy, tsunami was caused by nature. US could have physically stopped the 9/11 deaths, tsunami couldnt be stopped. Just to different situations.

are you implying our government didn't do all that it possibly could to stop the 'attacks'

how dare you!

</satire>

it's uncomparable imo

At 1/9/05 01:45 AM, FAB0L0US wrote: And goddammit, take a fuckin Biology class. Maus was completly correct. HIV came from SIV. The african forests are wonderful incubators for evolving viruses. Get a clue, get an education, and then shut the hell up. Hell, if i remember correctly, even cats have a fuckin disease thats like this. We didnt make this. Stupid ass conspiracy theorist. Get a girlfriend so that way you can stop spendin all day blaming the goverment for all the worlds woes.

you right winged, brainwashed fools make me sick
they are indications that point that it COULDVE been cause of SIV or this
NOWHERE written in stone, is there an explanation of where it came from. just theories. your explanation is a theory, not a fact you dumbshit

now i gotta come down to your dumbass level to talk to you because you can't seem to respect someone else's point of view and atleast try to understand it.

dipshit, open your mind

dat sucks, wouldve been interested in reading what it contained. glad i got through to someone lol

because she's a lesbian

not that there is something wrong in lesbian ;)
but she's an ugly butch :(

At 1/8/05 02:59 PM, Proteas wrote: That's probably the most logical things I've heard you say thus far. But sadly, turning to the Government and asking "Why did this happen?" for every bad things that happens, and then demanding their resignation if they can't answer you is LUDICROUS BEYOND BELIEF.

thanks, i guess
but IT IS the job to ask question when in doubt, if you don't ask questions; who in their right mind would want to be govern without and checks and balances?

there is nothing written in stone that says which question takes priority over the other. so a question that might seem rediculous to you, won't be to another person.

and i'm not asking for any resignations, just pointing out the flaw in our system and you can't make changes without addressing the problem first

No, your just for aggravating the piss out of everyone with your conspiracy theories.

if i'm aggrevating you:
1. enlighten me with your responses and show me unbias information to make me believe my views are incorrect. failure to do so won't help you making me believe that anything you believe has any credible merit

2. overlook my post, it's not going to kill you

No one has all the answers, no one ever will. That's just a fact of life that you will have to accept, get used to it.

no reason to make excuses for those in power. people demand answers and if they get used to just laying down and taking shit how it comes, what will society come to?

in my perspective, your outlook is severely skewed(same statement implies to me on your behalf) because you seem to believe everything the U.S.A does is rightous (correct me if i'm wrong)when it's not.

you(and many other people on here) come into a conversation with your mind already made up and wont allow anything you read that contradicts your views to be acceptable. a person can't act in such ways. there is good and bad behind either party you choose to support.

At 1/8/05 02:32 PM, specimen56 wrote:

Joking aside (or was I..?) why would any alien species come to visit humans? At the rate we're going we'll blow them up in the cross-fire of the countless wars going on around the globe...

creature in general are curious
you discover something, you want to investigate it and see what makes it tick. for everything out there, there is a scientist that wants to poke @ it and see what's it made out of

why wouldn't aliens be the same?

=\

if you have half a brain, you'll know whats good for you.

eating mcdonalds on the regular will fuck up your health and this movie proved it.

but if you don't have self discipline, and all you think about is stuffing your fat face with fatning food on the regular, you deserve it.

people look for reasons or someone to point their finger @ for their misfortune and that's not cool.

the movie was intended for people who don't have a clue and just needed some visual interpretations to see the real health risk and effects.

At 1/7/05 08:42 PM, Proteas wrote: If that were the case, I would have been long gone months ago.

What I can't stand are conspiracy theories. Why? Because nothing can happen in this world without some random nutt coming out of the woodwork and yelling "CONSPIRACY!" because things didn't happen just the way they wanted them to.

i concur, but when it comes to things that aren't explained (which isn't a hard to do) thoroughly, one will have question and one will want answers. and that's the job of whoever is in power to do. if they fail to do so or give some half ass excuse, they shouldn't be doing that job

anyways, riddle me this
how did building #7 collapse?

Let me see... what was I doing on the day of September 13th, 2001 when the third tower fell?

That's right, I was at Liggon and Bobo funeral Home in Lebannon, Tennesee, attending MY GRANDMOTHER'S FUNERAL. Thanks for dredging up crappy memories asshole.

dude, i didn't ask for all that nor my intents where that.
keep your sideways remarks to yourself, i'm not one for personal attacks over the internet

Sure, and so far that's all you've presented; theories. No concrete evidence of anything.

no concrete evidence to disprove this

when there is so much doubt and so little answers, you have to atleast raise your eyebrows and try to find out what's going on.

At 1/7/05 06:23 PM, commanderkai wrote:

At 1/7/05 04:54 PM, platan0 wrote:

anyways, riddle me this
how did building #7 collapse?

sure it's just a conspiracy theory ;)

Most likely construction workers demolished it because of structural damage that might kill rescue workers.

Please dont come with an half ass excuse to why it went down.
i asked the question knowing none of you will have a just answer to it but your own "theories"

Don't come up with some BS conspiracy site and stick with independent media or mainstream sources

why are you soo timid of other sources?
yet you will believe the lies that have been documented by our president?

where is your logic?

At 1/7/05 08:18 PM, Damien_FLAGG wrote: Yes, i thought so too. I bet the starter of this thread listens to RATM and Anti-Flag.
Losers.

whoa buddy, getting all personal.
did daddy not let you get all the fancy toys you wanted?
go suck on your spoon and try to keep shit mature.
if you see a fault in what i said/posted .. just call me out on it and i wont look the other screen lol

At 1/7/05 12:21 PM, platan0 wrote:

this is the age of information and the internet is a great tool to find out the FACTS

The internert is also a great tool to find CRAP.

forgot porn -_-

so before you brush something off as a "conspiracy theory", just do yourself the favor and look up the info online to see if the claims are true or false

And the claims aren't. As anti-angelic mentioned (i THINK it was her, anyway), AIDS symptoms showed up long before the so called 'creation' of the disease...we just didn't know what the symptoms meant.

doesn't mean you shouldn't try to investigate

many of you seem to not even care for the facts, continue living in your fantasy world

lol. The irony is burning my insides.

care for some ether?

i see none of you cared for this article nor agree with it. thought it could've been some useful information, looks like i was wrong.

^ a person admiting his/her faults .. ya should try it some day
:tu

At 1/7/05 05:03 PM, ReiperX wrote: You mean when the Saudis offered Bin Laden to the US, and then the offer was taken off of the table? The same President Clinton that was helping arm some commandos to go and kill Bin Laden in 99, but a coup in Pakistan ruined that plan.

I would like to see the evidence of the Sudanese offering of Bin Laden.

i hear that all the time . but never actually looked into it .. would like to see some evidence of that as well

(last post for the day)

At 1/7/05 05:04 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 1/7/05 04:59 PM, platan0 wrote: I am a n00b von n00berson

LOL@J00, N00B!!!!

rofl
-dies

At 1/7/05 04:58 PM, SD90 wrote: "Liberated". LOL. I love that word. We "liberated" so many countries! That makes us the fuckin greatest country of all !

...Wait so killing 1.5 million people (Cambodia), supporting a military dictatorship (Greece) and supporting a brutal dicator (The Shah) is good?...Hell yeah!

Oh but the widdle Nazis and Communists we defeated. Liberation to the fuckin max :D!

BLASPHEMER!!!!11
how dare you point out such dirt
shame on you, how do you sleep @ night

lol

At 1/7/05 04:51 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: Yeah, any REAL alt would stick topics that people can't discredit on site. That's an act only a "pure" n00b would make.

lol .. anyone argument can be discredited if it has any suspecion around it .. that's the beauty of debate

*passes FUNK some ExLax*

THAT HAD BETTER BE THE CHOCOLATE KIND!@!!!!!

*takes back the chocolate kind and replaces it with a generic one for the audacity for using the w0rd ....

....

...

..

n00b!!!11
:|

lol

lol @ you having a conspiracy theory against me

see the irony?

At 1/7/05 04:39 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 1/7/05 04:29 PM, platan0 wrote: so you believe the 9/11 comission report actually reported anything the public didnt' already know? and if there is another investigation to the event, please post that as well and enlighten me.

I was more referring to your accusation that we were bombed by our own government, WHICH WE WEREN'T.

lol .. lighten the fuck up

I will... when conspiracy theory whackjobs like yourself quit making my life miserable.

ay caramba

so you mean to tell me, any information that doesn't fall into your way of thinking is automatically bullshit, not worth taking into consideration, etc...?

anyways, riddle me this
how did building #7 collapse?

sure it's just a conspiracy theory ;)

At 1/7/05 04:42 PM, Rooster349 wrote: Okay, let's say 400,000 ....

you honestly believe bush only makes 400k a year?
let alone has way more money to his name

by that alone, your defense statement defaults as bullshit

we shouldn't be forced or feel forced to donate squat
but isn't life about helping others in times of need? if we have the resources, and it wont kill us to give it; why not?

if he's such a strong born again christian, he should know whatever u give here, you will be rewarded even greater in your afterlife

that is, by his beliefs

At 1/7/05 04:06 PM, FUNKbrs wrote:

At 1/7/05 04:01 PM, platan0 wrote:

if he didn't run under compasionate conservative , and an uniter platform

people would'nt expect him to be, dare i say, compasionate and help unite another nation after the biggest natural disaster since 1900

Um.... 10000 is just about what I make in a year. You don't get much less stingy than that. I've only personally donated 20 dollars. Calling Bush stingy in this situation is just..... ungrateful.

Besides, it isn't Bush who's giving/not giving out this money. It's Congress. Go take a course in governement sometime.

he has the biggest influence in congress. congress is under rep. majority control. he is our president, therefore he should be the spit shine representation of this country. hence the liability on his behalf is greater then anyone elses. it's in the job description

-_-

At 1/7/05 04:27 PM, Proteas wrote:
All right, fess up people, who's alt account is platan0?

lol . have i struck a nerve?

sorry, i'm not an alias .. just decided to make an account not too long ago and see what else this site has to offer

*passes FUNK some ExLax*

At 1/7/05 04:15 PM, Maus wrote: Wait, what? Just beccause they have admitted to some things doesn't mean they are responsible for everything they are accused of.

have you fully read the article? it shows a pattern of it's behavior, something that does trigure a reasonable doubt

So you're also saying you'll believe anything without hard facts? Good job.

no, just going on what i read on this article and other readings. thus making me feel that this has credibility

I think most everybody here realises that.

from the overall tone i get from here, not true.

At 1/7/05 04:23 PM, Proteas wrote:

At 1/7/05 03:50 PM, platan0 wrote:

At 1/7/05 03:32 PM, Proteas wrote: We weren't bombed by our own government, you twit.

no true investigation has been taken place to prove, or disprove it

"No true investigation?" Your kidding, right?

The verses of the Bible mentioned in the article present a history of the Muslim-Israeli conflict. They aren't prophecies of anything.

they don't imply future clash? from my reading it, it does

You need to go back to elementary school and work on your reading comprehension. NOW.

Did you read any part at all of the article I posted?

sho' nuff

Which parts then?

lol .. oh boy
so you believe the 9/11 comission report actually reported anything the public didnt' already know? and if there is another investigation to the event, please post that as well and enlighten me.

You need to go back to elementary school and work on your reading comprehension. NOW.

right away, sir

lol .. lighten the fuck up

At 1/7/05 04:00 PM, Rooster349 wrote:

Steady? You mean that one document that was declassified for inclusion in the 9/11. Right...A better way to stop 9/11 would have been to nab Bin Laden when we got the chance, but Clinton turned down Sudan's offer. Under this logic, you would have to blame Clinton for the recession as much as Bush.

i do blame both, i barely believe any word our 'leaders' say

but you have to hold these people accountable for the actions they are currently taken and it's not happening

just watch:

http://homepage.mac.com/duffyb/nobush/iMovieTheater153.html

and watch everything else on there

it's not about if your a rep/dem liberal/cons. .. it's just about stopping the bullshit that they try to feed peoeple every day and have the people we put in power come clean and tell us whats really going on.

lol so prior test of such sorts that have been address by the govt. and they have publicly went on record for the horrible acts they did wont even let you come to believe any of this is true?

maybe you just need more hard evidence to change your mind but i'm not going to exhaust myself in trying to obtain some.

and you can trust me .. let me hold 10 bucks
;)

lol .. but seriously, i'm not trying to start a revolution [ well not yet >:) ], just want people to see this govt. isn't as spic as span as they like to portray itself ..

At 1/7/05 03:48 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: BTW, do a search on Sasha Schulgin, the most influential scientist to never get on the news.

ty sir, will look into that

At 1/7/05 03:57 PM, Proteas wrote:

HOW LUDICROUS CAN YOU PEOPLE GET?! YOUR COMPLAINING BECAUSE OUR PRESIDENT MAY HAVE GIVEN ONLY TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS?! LISTEN TO YOURSELVES!!!!!!

if he didn't run under compasionate conservative , and an uniter platform
people would'nt expect him to be, dare i say, compasionate and help unite another nation after the biggest natural disaster since 1900

At 1/7/05 03:51 PM, Proteas wrote:

It's a digital document who's exact origins and age can't be traced by the unsuspecting public, and therefore can't be trusted.

i'm not here to debate it's genuine, just giving u the info i found

:and therefore can't be trusted

i can't say the same thing about this government lol

oh well .. cherrio

At 1/7/05 03:32 PM, Proteas wrote: We weren't bombed by our own government, you twit.

no true investigation has been taken place to prove, or disprove it

so if this is attack is going to take place to start the biblical prophecies,
they have yet to happen

The verses of the Bible mentioned in the article present a history of the Muslim-Israeli conflict. They aren't prophecies of anything.

they don't imply future clash? from my reading it, it does

Did you read any part at all of the article I posted?

sho' nuff

At 1/7/05 03:35 PM, Rooster349 wrote:

At 1/7/05 03:20 PM, Bubba_Phat wrote: The economy was going up when Bush stepped in. He inherited no "receding economy."

Show me evidence. You won't find any.

-falls out of chair

economy
clinton in office = surplus
bush in office prior to 9/11 = still on the come up

bush's 'overlooking' steady CIA threats = recession

so yeah, he didn't inherit it, he's partially liable for it

douchébag, stop overlooking the facts