18 Forum Posts by "PilotCman"
Bush would have been a good president maybe 10 years ago when there was nothing important to do but since he's taken office he hasn't done very much good.
I also love how the "Liberal Media" Omits civilian casualties from body counts. Like the 10000+ that have died don't really count I guess. Lets not forget about the NEW mass grave that was added this past month to burry all those civilians killed in fallujah. Might I have 70% of those killed in fallujah were civilians not isurgents.
Hey btw there is a new site called www.mediamatters.org that tracks the REAL bias in the media. Its actual proof not just slander and libel
At 4/23/04 01:55 PM, Anarchy_Balsac wrote:At 4/23/04 01:48 PM, PilotCman wrote:because she ddn't lie. you're making it up
Lol that funny. You call me a racist and your the one who brought up that fact that shes black when all I did was say she lied because of what she said. How that goes to racism is beyond me.
no she did not. geez. we've known for a long time that the info was known months before 9/11(as in way before the memo). and suddenly we have to forget about that? there's only 1 reason why you would do that, you want an excuse to hate her because she's black. just admit it, your racist
Anyone yes she did lie because she told the 9/11 comission that there was only hisotrical data and no real intellegance but there was if you read the second page, but all you really seem to care about is the fact that she is black so that makes everything good in your eyes then.
Your the racist for dwelling the fact that shes black and not for what she has done. You disgust me but what can I expect from arguing politics with a 21 year old rent-a-cop.i think she's done plenty of good, and i fail to see what my job has to do with this. i get to do nothing all day, it kicks ass. but the fact that you bring it up proves you are looking for excuses to hate people as such an arguement is pathetic. in my case you want to hate me because you don't like the facts i point out. in rice's case you don't like her because she's black. meh
You just don't seem to understand that she did lie to the 9/11 comission about the Memo. She said there was only historical data and no intel in it of furture attacks. On the second page there was data about future attacks she said there was only historical data thats called lying. Why can you see it?
Don't call me a racist because I question Rice's testimony it has nothing to do with race. You know i'm right about the facts and all you can do is call people names and racist ect. You havn't argued the facts nor have you probably read the memo.
At 4/23/04 01:44 PM, Anarchy_Balsac wrote:At 4/23/04 01:17 PM, PilotCman wrote:wait, i have nothing against rice, you do, and I'M the racist? lol, keep thinking that, cross burner
Your the moron you brought race into it you racist prick. It has nothing to do with the fact she is black thats just something the republicans keep bringing up because they can use her race as some sort of political weapon.
no she did not lie mr.kkk. the info in that memo was in fact already known by the white house at the time. it was known months before that. now should they have treated al qeada as more than a simple nuissance? yes, but no one at the time did. at all, so no she did not lie. you are making it up because you hate black people
She did LIE. She said in her testimony that the entire memo was nothing but historical data and that is a LIE, the entire 2nd page was credible threats that there could be Hijakings in NYC, just read the memo that i linked about and stop acting like racist prick.
Lol that funny. You call me a racist and your the one who brought up that fact that shes black when all I did was say she lied because of what she said. How that goes to racism is beyond me.
Anyone yes she did lie because she told the 9/11 comission that there was only hisotrical data and no real intellegance but there was if you read the second page, but all you really seem to care about is the fact that she is black so that makes everything good in your eyes then.
Your the racist for dwelling the fact that shes black and not for what she has done. You disgust me but what can I expect from arguing politics with a 21 year old rent-a-cop.
Here is the memo again, read the second page.
None of you uninformed people have argued my sources or links and have anything to add. You just attack my sources and won't refute what is in them. Most of you seem to be under the age of 21 and don't have a clue about what is going on in the world just the few things you've heard you parents say.
At 4/23/04 01:11 PM, Anarchy_Balsac wrote:At 4/23/04 11:28 AM, PilotCman wrote:ah horseshit, what lie is that? there isn't one? yeah i didn't think so, you're just saying she lied because she's black and you hate black people
Actually it showed that rice lied during her 9/11 comission testimony. The Memo did have a credible threat in it.
Your the moron you brought race into it you racist prick. It has nothing to do with the fact she is black thats just something the republicans keep bringing up because they can use her race as some sort of political weapon.
She did LIE. She said in her testimony that the entire memo was nothing but historical data and that is a LIE, the entire 2nd page was credible threats that there could be Hijakings in NYC, just read the memo that i linked about and stop acting like racist prick.
At 4/23/04 01:45 AM, Lavagasm wrote:At 4/22/04 11:18 PM, PilotCman wrote: Ah no actually I'm right, that link is pretty crappy considering the best years under Clintons economy were after 1995. That cato article only shows the first 4 years which I might add were still better than Bush’s. Btw the recession happened before 9/11 and loss of jobs was already happening slowly. 9/11 just helped it out more.Not much proof at all considering it's not a legible site! For all anybody here know that site could have made that up
here's proof btw
Unemployment, Debt, Spending ect.
BTW here is PROOF that Clinton had the highest approval rating of any outgoing presidentdid you acctually read the article? Probobly not, just the headline!
Ratings
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Just over half of all Americans say that they are glad Bill Clinton is leaving the White House and only 45 percent say they will miss him when he is gone, according to the latest CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.
The sources were good you just don't have a rebuttal
the unemployment debt chart used
Sources: Bureau of Labor Statistics; Office of Management and Budget.
1 The budget surplus of 1969 is due to the budget submitted by Lyndon Johnson.
2 Office of Management and Budget, Budget of the U.S. Government, Fiscal Year 2004, Mid-Session Review, Table 1, p. 2.
3 Office of Management and Budget, Budget of the U.S. Government, Fiscal Year 2004 Mid-Session Review, p.1.
4 April 2000 figure
5 June 2003 figure.
as sources
The CNN article showed Clintons approval ratings at the bottom the turh hurts doesn't it. Try and refute it and don't attack the sources because you don't like message
At 4/23/04 02:05 AM, Anarchy_Balsac wrote: there's no point in argueing with someone who thinks the recetly declassified document revealed anything we didn't already know. when in fact it did not
Actually it showed that rice lied during her 9/11 comission testimony. The Memo did have a credible threat in it.
Read farther down. Clintons Approval rating was the Highest.
opps my first quote was meant to be this bottom quote. I wasn't yelling at myself here is was I mean to quote
erm...i believe you are the mistaken one. the planes were hijacked out of CA, and were going to land in NYC, but were hijacked on the way, and it was on all the news channels. and yes, he had an idea that osama was going to attack a federal building in new york and was eyeing the possibility of hijacking somthing. thats why it said that the FBI did so many excersizes to try and prevent it.
look at the second page buddy explains it all. Ah the hijackings were in NY and Boston, Remember those planes took off from NYC and Boston then turned around and crashed into the buildings!! Get your facts straight.
Uh you are an idiot. I'm not going to argue with a 14 year old who was 11 years old when 9/11 happened. THE PLANES WERE HIJAKED FROM NY AND BOSTON ON THE WAY TO CA MORON NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!. BTW my memo is from the Whitehouse and was posted on CNN.
i havent seen any sources of particular nature from Red either, so you may bombard me with facts,
Yeah wouldn't want to ruin your delusions with facts or anything.
but dammit, im none of it is true AT ALL unless you can show me a direct link to an exact website
your retarded I did show you links, just ignore them if you don't want to then I don't care you can't vote so what do I care if your ignorant.
actually, id say that your WRONG. follow that link up there, it proves bad economy with Bill Clitton(another thanks to george carlin). and who was president 6 years ago? CLINTON, DAMMIT! that means it was lower under his administration, dumbass. sure, he got it up, but geez, look at all the jobs that were within the twin towers. i know they cant make up for everything that is down, but they contribute some. and some people didnt go to work, for losing loved ones in the 4 plane wrecks.
Ah no actually I'm right, that link is pretty crappy considering the best years under Clintons economy were after 1995. That cato article only shows the first 4 years which I might add were still better than Bush’s. Btw the recession happened before 9/11 and loss of jobs was already happening slowly. 9/11 just helped it out more.
here's proof btw
Unemployment, Debt, Spending ect.
Its not called a "vacation". its called hiding. The FBI or CIA or whatever put him in it, because he was believed to be in danger. and i guess you didn't watch condeleiza rice's testemony. he had no credible evidence, that they were going to attack by hyjacking planes, then crashing them into the buildings. they had evidence that Al Queda didnt like us and were likely to attack. plus the hijackings WERENT IN NYC. they were in california, dumbass. and im gonna be like red here.... give me a link to a viable news source about it being planned, and them concluding its truth.
Ah yes it was a vacation!! The month before 9/11 bush was at his Crawford ranch vacationing. He did have evidence, a memo that I will link
Intel Memo
look at the second page buddy explains it all. Ah the hijackings were in NY and Boston, Remember those planes took off from NYC and Boston then turned around and crashed into the buildings!! Get your facts straight.
proof? i dont see any.
here’s some proof right from the horses mouth.
Saudi Says it all
and thats why we have osama cornered, and will catch him in the coming months. if you can state that the oil prices will go down for politics, and that the war was planned prior to his election, i can state this.
Ah we don't have him cornered anymore, he got away when we pulled out Special task force away from Afghanistan to Iraq to track Saddam. Btw that last sentence you wrote is horribly written please rewrite it I have no idea what you were trying to say.
no...it wont.... its democracy, not theocracy. and notice the DEMOCRA in democracy. hes setting it up the way you like it, not as a republic as he would have it, i bet.
Ah no.... its nothing right now, There is a large Sunni and Shia population who are pressing for an Islamic type of government. We may stay it will be a democracy but chances are it will not be a democracy very long. Maybe you haven’t seen the news about fallujia in the north and the Islamic cleric's militia in Najif and Shia and Sunni uprisings in the south all of them are separate. You think they will stop in June? No, once we leave they will only become more aggressive.
and proof is where? if you cannot back this up by at least saying why, then you cant make that assumption. bush is the worst....because he invaded iraq and forced them to disarm their wmds...of course youll just respond and say there werent any without reading any of the other posts by me, clearly giving facts there is a 99% probability that there were. clinton was once of the best ever....why? youve gotten so caught up in mentioning bad things that were made up about bush, that you forgot to mention good things about clinton....lets see....sex scandle, somolia, and his refusal to capture osama bin laden when he had the perfect chance. that makes him the best alright.
Ah look around and you can see the proof. Iraq is a mess Afghanistan is a mess unemployment is up Al Quada isn't gone and we have ruined our relationship with our allies. Not to mention the terrible spending and the HIGHEST deficit EVER. Btw Iraq hasn't had WMDS in years the wmd WE gave him in 80's were used on the Iranians and Kurds and we did nothing when he used them in 1988. he didn't have any anymore or he would have used them. David Kay, Hans Blix and many others have said there probably won't be any WMDS found. Ah the Clinton Sex scandal didn't dmg the country like all the Scandals and trouble bush has had. Somalia was a disaster started by bush’s father that Clinton had to deal with when he got into office. He was FORCED by the REPUBLICAN controlled congress to pull out. Oh and the lie that he "refused" to take OBL is just that a lie, the Sudanese offer is of course total fiction, the government of Sudan never made an offer it was allegedly made by a journalist in Saudi Arabia.
BTW here is PROOF that Clinton had the highest approval rating of any outgoing president
Ratings
"Libertarian"
But switching who controls the media BS is usually something the conservative use. Like the "Evil Jewish Liberal Media Conspiracy" when in fact reports have been made that show that the media is just slightly conservative except for Fox they are just down right blatantly Biased.
Oh btw in response to the Title:
Clinton was MUCH better
Bush is the WORST
These are some nice ones
They are doing this in Canada now beacuse of the overpopulation
At 4/22/04 03:33 PM, Lavagasm wrote:At 4/19/04 06:07 PM, Battl3Mast3r wrote: Clinton. He was a democratic moderate, who was open minded and leanient... he was republican on some topics, therefore he pleased alot of people. Our economy was absolutely incredible, unemployment was at an all time low (2.1% in 95') and he was really helping the middle east become a better place. He was intellegent, handsom, and relaxed, always calming the american public. Also Clinton's administration was one of the best vareity of advisors possible.WRONG!!!
Besides the his personal life (sex scandal), he did a damn good job in office, and I wish he was elected a 3rd time (if possible), because he at least made me feel very safe, wheras bush is a mentally disabled beyond all belief, and no offense = but I dont trust former cocaine addicts as MY president.
Bill clinton did a horrible job as president, he sunk the economy into the toilet, demoralized our youth, when osama bin laden was going to be handed to us he refused him, he didn't have the balls to get anything done, his solution to the middle east was drop a few bombs on the bagdhad, and have his WOMDs destroyed, Sadam is an evil man and should have been taken out a long time ago...
Bush however, got our economy going again (tax rebates), gave tax cuts to EVERYBODY who pays taxes(not just the rich the rich make more money andtherefor get bigger tax cuts), unemployment is down, he supports our troops in a ballsy way(he went down on thanksgiving, with the troops risking his own life to show them that he cares, and acctually helped hand out the food, unlike hillary who just ate there food and talked), he took out Al Quaida from power in afghanastan, Sadam from Iraq, Only 600 casualties so far on the american side(which is a major success because Bush ordered 80k body bags for the war), roughly 80k is the amount that died in Vietnam (79,400 differance, there is no comparison so stfu democrats).
no YOUR WRONG!
Clinton had one of the BEST economies this country has ever seen. Best GDP lowest unemployment ect. Clinton got a crappy economy from Bush 41 and worked it to where it was at its peak. He also had a Budget SURPULS, GWB has the HIGHEST deficit and debt out of ANY president in history!! Bush hasn't done Jack to help out the economy. Those tax cuts were NOT for everyone but for people who made 200k year or more and that money wasn’t spent just invested so it didn’t do squat for the economy. Also the unemployment rate is at the highest it has been in over 6 years. Bush is trying to cover his ass by trying to redesignate fast food workers as "Manufacturing workers" this is the way he works.
The war in IRAQ was based on bad info and it has come out now that bush had this war planned before he even became president. He also ignored credible intel the month before 9/11 about possible Hijackings in NYC while he was on vacation for over a month which btw is the longest that any president has ever taken.
He has also sold us out to the Saudis. The Saudis are trying to influence our election by drastically lowering the oil prices before the nov. election.
The only thing Bush has done right is going to war in Afghanistan but he even screwed that up when he decided to go into Iraq. That action caused the displacement of 400 million that congress marked for Afghanistan and it also took troops away from the afghan campaign. This has allowed the Taliban to gain more control and it allowed OBL to escape from under our noses when we were within 100 miles of him. We are only in control of Kabul while the rest of the country is still under the control of various other warlords, terrorists and Taliban fighters.
Read Paul O’Neil’s book, Richard Clarke’s book, and Woodward’s book, they all say the SAME thing that he was obsessed with Iraq and has turned this "War on Terror" inside out and has made it ineffective. Spain, Honduras, the Dominican Republic and Soon Poland and possibly South Korea will be pulling troops out because of this disaster in Iraq. He messed up the war and now Iraq will go from a Brutal dictatorship to a Brutal theocracy like Iran come this June because bush is in such a hurry to get out of Iraq because want to have a better shot at getting reelected.
Bush has been the WORST president this country has ever had. Clinton was one of the BEST. If Clinton was still president we would be in a much better position.
Clinton also had the HIGHEST approval rating out of ANY exiting president EVEN REAGAN.
