With Nae and TOAS forum modded the art mod invasion is well underway... excellent

oh wait did i say that outloud

At 11/23/09 06:59 PM, n0sv3ratu wrote: lol anyway what do u think about the project

I think that it is possible with charcoal even though its not ideal, but you will be able to get the desired result, its just going to be one unpleasant trip there of fighting the material the whole way. One thing you may want to try is fixing the piece everytime you get a value in. So get all the darkest spots in first, spray it with fixative, then do the next darkest and so on spraying after each tone group. You will be high as a kite from the fixative fumes but at least the shit wont smear as much.

The ignorance of the OP is too much to bear, lets take a peek at his logic shall we.

1. Doesn't believe that ANY martial artists are gay.

2. All gay people want to fuck EVERY guy ALL the time.

3. Wrestling or other grappling fighting styles are straight, however if its against a gay guy its gay. The moves are the same, everything but the sexual orientation of one of the fighters changes and suddenly rubbing your scrotum in a guys face is no longer straight.

4. Thinks their are no gay fighting organizations because gay guys cant fight or straight people wont fight them.

5. Two chicks fighting ok, Two guys fighting ok, one straight and one gay fighting NOT OK! (what if no one knows which is gay?)

6. Being able to beat people up + being on TV + being rich will get women to like you, but if you are gay and all these things chicks will avoid you like the plague.

I'm truly truly amazed at this, lets watch more as the OP will most likely shove his foot so far into his mouth he will be shitting nail polish.

Maybe its just me but arent you getting pissed at all the people throwing complaints or suggestions when it comes to drawing their person?

For projects like this I leave it all up to the artist, people who they deem worthy will get drawn, and the whole point is they get drawn in the way that the artist views them. Requesting changes to a character with anything short of "i have no idea who that person is, maybe give a hint or make it clearer" would just piss me the hell off if this were my project. But its not, so kudos to you for not biting peoples heads off.

wow, a posterized charcoal? what the hell are they teaching you in school, charcoal is the last medium i would use for any posterized look. It lends itself much more to blending than solid areas of color. Posterized pics would work well with pretty much anything BESIDES charcoal.

Doing the Wrong Thing - Kaki King
The whole song, not just the balls easy intro.

Only one I can really think of off the top of my head.

And you all better hope Cast doesn't get wind of this thread or he will make us all look stupid.

We are doing ok, bit slow but i think everyone is making progress. Its been hard keeping contact with all members but I'm sure lost of them are taking their time with their sketches. I have been overly busy myself with general life obligations which i didn't see which also makes it hard to do all the leaderly duties, but I'm not worried about falling way back.

April Fools 2009, My god was that a perfect day.

By using the same tips offered here

At 11/20/09 03:30 PM, M-Vero wrote:

At 11/20/09 03:26 PM, Batto wrote: What'll you do for people with indescript usernames?

I will have to.....

Quiver

USE MY BRAIN! AHHHH!

that's why I'm having trouble with people like renaenae and ben.

Ben is a piece of cake, you had his style pretty good, its just the monitor that threw people for a loop. Nae might be a bit hard but its possible, just do a frumpy art chick with a question mark face. I can think of a few regs who good luck figureing out though.

Did they have the costume ready for you or do you always look like that.

You should have just taken off your shirt and been randy to mess with them though. Even though you dont have the big cheeseburger gut, still would have been funny.

At 11/19/09 12:14 AM, PrinceFlea wrote: Who's That guy on the monitor?

cap ben?

Melissa Kaplan of Splashdown and Universal Hall Pass

Or

Sarah Worden of My Brightest Diamond, that girl has one hell of a set of pipes.

Sadly its a stigma thing, in all honesty few people actually NEED college for the educational purpose, little of what you learn you will apply in whatever job you ultimately end up in. HOWEVER if you don't go its very difficult to get certain jobs where you can actually make a living because regardless of your skills they want to see if you a college degree, it shows dedication more than anything else.

At 11/15/09 07:55 PM, DooDooMeaT wrote:

At 11/15/09 07:42 PM, ornery wrote: Here is a rough sketch for a guy.

Cool

Also Im loving doodoo's backgrounds.

What about the motorcycle though?

If no one else submits anything that can be our character.
Also since you seem to have a knack for textures care to work up something for the farthest background, the one that alternates between two different looks.

Here is a rough sketch for a guy.

Kamekaze type, runs forward, chases player. Probably comes in swarms. Baisically a guy who caught fire and just wants to run into shit. more details when i dont have 4 drawings for school due in the next 2 days. But hopefully you get some idea from this. Also Im loving doodoo's backgrounds.

At 11/15/09 06:13 AM, Occluded wrote: Versatility stuff.

Its funny when you said versatility I thought you were talking about the properties of the paint, not its potential uses. Yes Acrylic definitely has more practical uses than oil, but oil has it beat as far as paint effects go.

What can you do with oils that you can't with acrylic? I'm not trying to be snarky I'm seriously asking. I'm always willing to learn.

Well oils give different effects that acrylics, and the range of effects is more than those capable by acrylics. Oils tend to have better light qualities to them and when mixed with mediums can be equally shiny or more so than acrylics, they can also be flattened and matted down to give a dull look, or mixed with galkyd and have a transparent glass like quality. Its really all in the mixing and varnishing, where acrylics can only get a few looks that never come close to the glow of oils.

Colors

To my knowledge there aren't many fluorescent oils, but I have seen them. Glow in the dark I think could be possible with oil but the elitists who use and make oils would never allow it :) Also oils are much more about mixing and creating colors from a few base ones. Its possible to mix a fluorescent color or something close with the right base paints. Oils tend to preserve their luminosity and intensity when mixed correctly where as acrylics get duller quicker.

wetness and yellowing.

I am a slow painter, and the slow drying time with oils is perfect for me. With acrylic i find it to be self defeating how fast it drys, its almost as if everything you put down is pointless because once it dries you are just going to be covering it up with the next layer of paint and the work you spent or color you put down before plays little role in effecting what goes on top. With oils since the colors will mix on the canvas what you put down plays some role in the final outcome color wise. If your paint yellowed I dont remember the cause but I do remeber being told that incorrectly useing oils will cause that effect.

Watering down the paint.

yes I've used oils as washes before, it works but again looks weaker. Another things oils can do that acrylics cant do as well is indirect painting, aka painting color over a achromatic underpainting using paint mixed in a medium. Even when mixed in a medium acrylics will layer quickly and become opaque much faster, oils will stay transparent in the right medium for many many many layers adding just a tint of color each time.

Get ready to hate: Honestly I've quit both for the most part, and just paint digitally now.

I dont hate you at all, I hate painting actually. Both acrylic and oil. Digital would be my choice if given one between the 3.

At 11/14/09 02:45 AM, Occluded wrote: Critique Section stuff

Ah so its more critique based than review based, although with our system you get both, however it would be interesting to have some system where you spesifically line works up for critique. And a reward system would be the only way to get people to do so, like your quota system, you have to critique X pieces in order to submit a piece, however keep in mind this is NG, try as it might its not an art site, and the chances of getting the same quality critiques will be significantly less, and even less if there is some red tape to jump through because NG users love to do the minimal amount of work required to get through that tape. The only true advantage I see in that really isnt in that system at all but more can be implemented in a different one, and thats the version stuff. It would be incredibly helpful if we could submit W.I.P or multiple versions of one image on one page that we could scroll through, The final one would be art portal viewable, but the others would accompany it instead of people submitting 5 different versions of one pic and makeing them all clog the portal or their user page.

Box Rechecking

yeah you'd be surprised how many people recheck stuff that has been unchecked. It wouldn't be fair to make it a one time deal either, because some artists (myself included) are indecisive and don't know what they want as public and change their minds frequently for various legitimate reasons. As for resubmitting a piece just to get reviews, major abusive, its no different than resubmitting blammed flash really, especially if it hasn't changed at all in the new submit. Instead of risking a spanking try submitting more work, when people see stuff of yours they like they will be more likely to check your other stuff and give it reviews.

At 11/15/09 12:05 AM, GMoose14 wrote: Hey I just joined about a month ago

Currently based on that piece, no you arent, however I would recommend submiting more work anyway, and as you get better in the future submit that work and feel free to delete your not as good stuff.

The only thing that might have made 09 a better year than any others was the April Fools Joke, there has never been and most likely never will be a better one than that on any site ever.

It took 9 posts for someone to properly get the reference, I am ashamed of you newgrounds.

At 11/14/09 02:15 AM, Occluded wrote: Personally. I would go with acrylic paint. It's more versatile.

Not really, oil can do much more than acrylic can, it just takes more chemistry.

There are more color varieties.

Where are you shopping? Most places I go have about equal color options between the two.

It's cheaper and the time it takes to set is more controllable.

Cheaper definetly, more controllable not at all. You will never get acrylic paint to stay wet for more than six hours or so no matter how much medium and retarder you add to it unless you are sealing it up and constantly mixing the stuff to keep it flowing. Oil you can add certain mediums to to get it to dry as fast as acrylics, and on its own it stays wet for about 3 days, you can lengthen that time by adding stuff as well.

You can water it down to make it act more like a watercolor. And then there are the gels you can use with it.

Same applies for oil except you dont use water, you can dillute it in various mediums and gels or just use plain paint thinner if you want a really watery look, it just weakens the paint is the only downside.

At 11/14/09 12:23 PM, Digital-Terror wrote: I don't have a ton of experience, but I am capable. Money isn't too much of a problem here, but the cheaper the better. I prefer fast drying paint, but I'd be willing to sacrifice drying time for quality. As for mixing, I usually prefer palette mixing.

Pretty much all your answers point towards acrylic.

At 11/13/09 11:58 PM, Digital-Terror wrote: I want to make a painting for someone for Christmas, but I don't know what to paint with.

I know where to get canvass and such, but I don't know what I should be painting with. Is acrylic paint any good, or should I use oil paints?

Depends, each has their own advantages and disadvantages. How much experience do you have? How much are you willing to spend? Do you like slow or fast drying paint? Do you like mixing on a palette or on the canvas itself?

At 11/13/09 03:11 AM, Occluded wrote: Thanks ahead of time.

Question?
?) I moved a piece from sketch to public. I mention this because I think there's a bug. When I sort by score it doesn't show up.

Its because it dosent have enough votes yet. I dont know the exact number that piece needs, but its somewhere around 15 votes I think, might be more. Once it gets that many votes it will show up under score.

Suggestions
1) You need a link to this topic in the Help/FAQ. Or at least refer to finding it in Where is/How to?

We need a link to alot of topics and updates in the FAQ, currently the staff is busy with other things, hopefully someday it will happen though.

2) A threadless style critique system. What am I talking about? Like this. Bitch to implement? But I think it fosters a good atmosphere. It might even encourage artists to make this their site of choice.

What? I dont quite get whats different about that over reviews. Maybe Im not noticing exactly whats going on there.

3) If not then when it moves from sketch to public it's creation date should be reset. No one will see it if it starts off buried back 4 days. Again fixed by resubmitting, but...

Too easy to abuse, people would keep rechecking stuff for public to reset the date to get it up to the front.

4) Art Favorites should be viewed as icons instead of as a list on your user page. I don't know what my favorites are called this kind of defeats the purpose.

This absolutely, but again staff is busy, it may be implemented in the future.

5) I read through this topic and I know it's already been said, but I'd like to second it. You should be able to see who favorites you.

In due time, in due time.

At 11/12/09 09:40 PM, Randomdude111 wrote: Ive never really used a scanner before so i dont really know how to do anything you just said. But i'll work on it.

Do you have photoshop? Or hell even windows photo viewer has an edit option where you can darken a pic.

At 11/12/09 02:07 PM, deadspread83 wrote: Any ideas?

Looks freaking awesome. looks like we have our first developed enemy.

I know I havent been drawing much, which probably isnt great motivation for the rest of the group. Like I said I'm in the middle of my senior review boards and once they or over this week I hope to have alot more time to dedicate to this project.

keep up the good work guys.

Oh my sweet fucking god please for the love of fuck allof you shut the ever loving fuck up god damnit

At 11/11/09 02:32 PM, yihoo wrote: radiation power

Hmm neat idea, but I dont know if we can alter the speed of the level mid game, or the speed of the player for that matter, would make it intresting though.

At 11/11/09 02:46 PM, yihoo wrote: Laser cannon stuff

There is a power up pick up for laser charge weapons and this can be an option for that weapon, however the primary default weapon is single projectile based. Bullets or homemade bullets wouldnt be uncommon

His secondary weapon

Again, we have power ups but this is definetly one of the options, read through the outline link provided on the first page for the

When he finally reaches the end of the level, or the promise land, he has been exposed to so much radiation that he turns into a mutant, and starts hunting other survivors. A bleak ending indeed.

Thats an option for the ending, after beating the bosses of course.

Sorry for flooding this thread, but its getting pretty boring here at work. :-D

spammer :P

Haha, he's supposed to be friendly. He's a friggin priest! lol

A preist hell bent on killing everything and sending it to heaven? Plus religious nuts are never friendly, tsk tsk.

Yihoo is a personal friend of mine with an NG account and background in animation and art so i asked him if he wanted to join us, he agreed.

At 11/11/09 03:04 AM, yihoo wrote: Hey guys. Happy to be here. I thought it would be cool to have some sort of religious fanatic in the game as a melee or range character.

Make him dirtier, the man is too clean, and he looks so friendly, roll him in the muck a bit. And that sword, maybe something a bit cruder, its also too clean, where the hell would he find a fine crafted thing like that in a wasteland.

At 11/11/09 03:06 AM, yihoo wrote: Also, I'm not sure if anyone has considered mutated animals or humans as enemies? Those would be pretty interesting to do.

I like the idea of messed up animals more than mutant humans, although both are acceptable. However while melee and kamikaze style stuff is acceptable, keep in mind the engine focuses more on projectiles.

At 11/10/09 11:05 PM, flashwarrior wrote: The gangsters I'm starting to sketch up would fit in here right?

the way those guys are really counts at one enemy, if you want them to be your fast weaker guys go ahead

Yay for my broken down tank

Yep

At 11/10/09 11:29 PM, DooDooMeaT wrote: I like deadspread's idea about the backgrounds from an earlier post...here is a quote :D

Yeah I mentioned that idea before as well. To showcase the final level design im thinking something along the lines of showing it in sketch form like this (where like in this case the dots reperesent different enemies, they would be in better formation obviously). We can have symbols represent different styles of enemies and key events or important background elements.

Also If you guys could PM me all the possible ways that I can contact you (AIM, MSN, ICQ, GMAIL, any chat program), maybe if the majority of people have one thing in common we can use that as our main communication form.

I love how people are complaining about it taking so long, when how many people signed up and were late or didn't submit anything at all?