I'm in, i'm collabing with Oscillist

At 10/20/09 01:04 PM, Trypno wrote: It seems that, due to very restrictive copyright laws, that DJing has gone from being the poor urban youth's music outlet, to the rich kids playground.
Gone are the days when a person could get a couple turntables and a mixer and create amazing pieces of music.
We are now living in an age where, if you want to be a DJ, you have to spend thousands of dollars on various pieces of equipment and computer programs in order to first produce your own piece, and then mix it.
Frankly, I can't afford all of it, hence why I'm able to find such joy in arranging premade loops with Garageband. Everyone on this site has such a problem with arranging tracks, saying that you absolutely must create your own loops in order to be a legitimate musician or to create legitimate music.
I've got news for y'all, not everyone is a piano player, some people are simply drummers, so making synth loops is a little more difficult for us. And not everyone can afford to splurge on huge computers and numerous programs and pieces of equipment, some of us just have to use what we are given.

So from now on, you keyboard purists need to stop acting like you rule newgrounds, you're just another musician in a long line of musicians.
Using premade loops basically equates to the way old school DJs used to party, by taking samples of popular pieces of music and arranging them through a mixer.
I know I'm not the only one out there getting a little steamed by the fact that people who can afford to spend on nice equipment and tons of programs and gadgets are running around Newgrounds putting people down for using premade loops.

You say I'm not a real musician for using premade loops? I say you're nothing more than a spoiled kid with an attitude who has forgotten his DJ roots of sampling like any underpaid/underprivileged DJ would do.

And sure, even I feel the limits of how I choose to make music, Garageband is a very basic program, but the fact is that is really all I have to work with because it not only came free with my computer, it's a full program so I can have as many tracks/racks as I want, I'm not limited to 4 racks like I am with the MULAB demo, and I'm not limited to just a microphone input like it seems to be with Audacity. With Garageband, if I can't find a useable loop, I try and make one. However Garageband seems to have a problem with VSTs so this is a bit difficult, and I've used every preset effect Garageband comes with.

The fact is, I enjoy creating a full piece of music with what I got. I'm able to at least get the FEELING of what I wanted to express out, and if I'm not fully satisfied, I break out my VSTs and go to work.

Let's discuss

Ok first off ... piano players ?! Wtf does that have to do with anything. I can't play piano at all. But I've got upwards of 100 tracks all fully produced by me. And fun fact: They aren't just drums.

Secondly, I'm broke as fuck. I've been homeless twice. Get off your damned high horse, you're not going to justify your lack of motivation by trying to play the "Poor kid " card. It's not going to fly here.

THIRD! There's a difference between sampling and ripping off a premade loop. most of the people here on newgrounds ( Even those spoiled rich kids you seem so keen on addressing) are using samples. The difference is that they know how to cut the samples so as not to blatantly obvious.

I say you're not a real musician because you lack the experiance and desire to learn. Not because you use premade loops. Using premade loops is just the symptom for the condition.

There are nefarious ways to obtain software, and since you're already cool with stealing loops, you might as well go balls deep and get yourself a copy of fruity loops.

Your argument is flimsy and incredibly ill-informed.

Take the time to learn how to write a synth line. Spend some hours learning about mastering and sound design. Using loops that someone else made isn't talent.

Also, learn the difference between a DJ and a Producer.

At 10/12/09 05:30 PM, YouriX wrote:

At 10/12/09 05:16 PM, nubbinownz wrote: Also. Good stuff here man, with a bit more practice and time you could have a pretty quality sound going on for ya :D

Thanks infact! Is because of you i wanted to make a album. I still listen to your old Wizard album!

awwwww i just got all squishy inside.

At 10/11/09 09:36 AM, jarrydn wrote:

At 10/10/09 03:46 PM, YouriX wrote: But on the other hand this made me think. Should i make music to appeal music producers or the bigger crowd like JackRocker?

Just make the kind of music that YOU want to hear.

AMEN to that!

Also. Good stuff here man, with a bit more practice and time you could have a pretty quality sound going on for ya :D

At 9/24/09 05:41 PM, Mrmilkcarton wrote: Pretty website.

So I tend to ask this of all posts who are requesting some form of music. Do you have any examples of work? Music tends to come later in the production life of a game unless it is a rhythm game. That being said, you don't need to look for a musician till you have a demo or place holder song(s) that need to be replaced. What are your plans to do with the music? Exclusive rights to music can be very costly.

Ditto :)

I'm always interested in working with game developers, but I want to make sure it's going to be mutually beneficial :D

At 9/23/09 10:39 PM, Chronamut wrote: you can draw waveforms in trackers.

In b4 trackers VS. Sequencers.

At 9/21/09 06:31 PM, MICHhimself wrote: Thanks guys.

<3

At 9/21/09 06:10 PM, MICHhimself wrote:

At 9/21/09 06:08 PM, loansindi wrote:

At 9/21/09 06:04 PM, MICHhimself wrote: The 'someone' is the problem. This neighbourhood is filled with a bunch of elderly people who do nothing but mowing their lawn and gossiping about stupid shit.

Because god forbid you leave the neighborhood.

Go to whatever norway has instead of malls. Like a snowbank or something, find some guys your age.

I only like being around a select few of my age. Mostly I find them very childish, and I guess that's part of my problem. Blegh, whatever.

I think it's time for you to Grow down. Just remember man, life is WAY too short to take anything too seriously. You need to live it up while you still can. I used to be like that. WAY too condescending about everything. Eventually i just learned how to see color again. (metaphor i'll explain in a second) It's absolutely changed my life. I mean, if i can go through being rich to homeless twice in a matter of 2 years, and still enjoy life like i never have before, (Without drugs) there's got to be SOMEthing going on.

As far as seeing color goes. It's an old game my mom used to play with me.

Basically in the car she would call out a color. And I would have to name off all the things that were said color.

She'd say red and all of a sudden the world seemed to be overflowing with red things. Signs, cars, buildings, clothes. Everything was red. But then, in almost an instant, she'd throw purple out there and BAM! Purple everywhere.

In retrospect, it wasn't about the colors, it was about teaching my mind to focus on certain things.
Like with the colors, as I would focus on the color red, all i could see was red things, or purple , or blue depending on the choice she made. When I focus on the exciting wonderous things in life, and don't even give the negatives a second glance, it's very easy to forget the annoying, bad, and obnoxious things in this world even exist.
(inb4 ZOMG you need to be aware of your surroundings and whats going on in your world) You can still pay attention to what people are saying and doing, but it makes it very easy to not get caught up when someone makes a mistake or does something stupid :)

ANYWAY :D That's my 2 cents. Take it for what it's worth and give me the change if you'd like.

can I have your stuff ?

SRSLY though. I know exactly what you mean. Truth be told this is the best time to make music. If you can capture that hopelessness and desolation that you're feeling right now and toss it into some music, you're going to find a whole different style of music you didnt' even know you could make.

And you can take that to the bank.

Someday... I want to be an underdog :(

Bur SRSLY

Oscillist... ZOMFG This guy has the potential to be making mainstream DNB.

also

Spikrodd and POOPR are intense as my balls.

Add Rig onto that list, because i don't think people realize how good rig really is.
One word: Cardboard.

I'm down :) look at my song list. "dog walk demon battle" is pretty 8bit got others too

I'm sorry man, the rules make this contest terrible. The beat is boring and redundant. If we can't change the beat, or add on to it then there's no point in even trying.

I'm still free, and alone. If anyone want to team, send me a PM . Or i'll just pound something out on my own

I suppose I can take his place :)

1. August Sargenti
2. Uhhh
3. IDM / DNB / BreakCore
4. I generally make songs, but i like when they loop, that's neat :D
5. I can grow a pretty mean beard when the time is right.
6. almost 1 year
7: I like long walks on the beach, mellow synths, and smashed master tracks :D

I'm looking for somewhat of a music video for one of my tracks. 2 and a half minutes long or so.

i wont bore you with details unless you're actually interested :D

PM or respond here if you'd like to discuss it a bit. Or just to tell me that I should go away.

At 8/11/09 09:32 PM, loansindi wrote:


Except that's not for you to decide.

What IS for you to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.

:: - Gandalf-

Fixed it for ya

Get this crap off my newgrounds.. Seriously . This is disgusting.

You're posting in a musicians forum that you want to sell your songs ? That's a slap in the face man.

At 8/11/09 11:40 AM, nathanallenpinard wrote: I will do doing something like this, but not an hour. 2 days at most probably.

BLASPHEMY !!! If you're spending 2 days on a song you're working too hard.. You act like you want to do this as a career or something.
.... waaaiiiitt

To be completely honest, there isn't a huge difference between say 256kbps or standard 128kbps. Most people couldn't even notice the difference. But I do have to agree with you that Newgrounds does have a lot of limitations. If you have a long track the bitrate is going to suffer to fit it on Newgrounds, That was a problem with some of the songs off my EP.

I'm sorry bro, but there is a MASSIVE difference between 256 and 128 especially with brighter sounds :(

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Haha I understand, but what you CANT do on newgrounds is upload all of your tracks at 256kbps or more. And put them all in an easy to download pack so people can get it all at once :)

At 8/9/09 11:14 PM, Quarl wrote:

At 8/9/09 10:27 PM, SineRider wrote: Checking it out now. Seems everyone is making threads about their EPs.. maybe i should too XD

I was planning one too actually... but it seems like there's becoming an over saturation... sucks because I payed money to have my EP put out on iTunes/amazon... dunno. Last time I stuck to a news post but for this one I was planning otherwise. Thanks to an upgrade in technology it's becoming increasingly easy to make an EP. i might have to exercise a little self control to demonstrate a point...

Sorry you feel that way quarl. See, the only reason I was releasing it on here is because I'm also going to be paying money to have it placed on Itunes as well. But I care enough about the newgrounds community to offer it to them for free. The same with my upcoming full length album. I'll be offering it to NG for a short time for free even though it's going to be on itunes it's going to be free here.

That's the main difference amigo. While you did pay money to have your EP released on a major outlet, you're also standing to MAKE money from it as well. Whereas people like scribbler and myself are posting, because we are releasing it free of charge. It's more of a heads up to something we are giving you, not something we are trying to get you to buy. We aren't asking for money. That's the main difference :)

I could understand if everyone was advertising to try and get people to buy your stuff, but this is a kind gesture.

Again, i'm sorry you feel that way sir :)

At 8/9/09 05:28 PM, xKore wrote: py birthday

what is this.. I don't even.

At 8/9/09 02:09 PM, Koriigahn wrote: I didnt get you a cake, however i did get you this:
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/2 62748

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OH JESUS I LOLED

OM NOM NOM TRIPLE CAKE~!

Heheh whoa whoa whoa guys I don't want this to turn into a flame war, Was just trying to do something nice. Since most of my songs are too big to upload to newgrounds at anything higher than 192 haha. If this is becoming a real issue here though it's fine, I can just keep it to the news posts :D

Thanks for all of those that have checked it out and are enjoying it ! :D

At 8/8/09 06:54 PM, Scribbler wrote: I say...

This link downloads faster: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XKRH3OWL

Excellent stuff, listening right now.

Yeah, I don't know what's up with the FTP. It wasn't this slow previously but hopefully it speeds up a bit. Thanks a bunch for the megaupload scribbler :D

At 8/8/09 03:28 PM, la-yinn wrote: Sweet! Moar epic Nubbin breakbeats and chopped up drum loops. Those are so awesome. <3

... I didn't get you anything. :(

Hahaha, I wouldn't feel to bad. I've got a terrible feeling that you won't be the only one haha ;)

I just don't think my music is worth money, and if someone else thinks it is they are more than welcome to donate.

But I'm not going to force a price on someone, especially right now when people can barely afford to eat. I mean , shit haha I just lost my place for the second time and had to finally give up and move back up to sacramento. There's no way I could afford to pay for music right now, But I still think the musicians I listen to deserve something, so I'll do my best to personally let them know that I've enjoyed their stuff and will be donating as soon as I can.

Crap, forgot to add. This is in honor of my birthday tomorrow. So it's like a Gift to you guys for my birfday :D