28 Forum Posts by "nomisdp"
At 4/11/03 10:14 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote:
Viet Nam was France's mess, and for some reason LBJ thought it was his job to clean it up. France was more involved in causing Viet Nam than the USA was.
France withdrew from Vietnam in 1954 i think. The country was divided in two, with the Communist North then attacking the South. France by this point has absolutely nothing to do with Vietnam. JFK decides to send equipment and advisors to South Vietnam and the troops were sent under LBJ. The reason that the US got involved in Vietnam was to prevent the spread of communism not "to sort out France's mess". I know France isn't the most popular counrty in the US right now, but you can't blame them for US involvement and subsequent failure in Vietnam.
At 4/11/03 12:46 PM, TheShadowOfLenin wrote:At 4/11/03 12:00 PM, nomisdp wrote:
<sigh> It was a figure of speech, maybe you need to think of all the things Lenin did to BENIFIT his country!
like what for instance? The only thing i can think of was pulling Russia out of WW1 and the gains of this were offset by the civil war.
:every UN led conflict ends up the same way. ... Vietnam, utter humiliation.
Vietnam was in no way UN led, Russia would have vetoed it. Correct me if im wrong but the US were the only external power officially involven in Vietnam.
At 4/10/03 03:59 PM, mysecondstar wrote:
it would be in Bush's best interest to use popular vote in place of the Electoral College
surely considering it was the quirk of the electoral college that got Bush in despite losing the popular vote, it is in his interests to maintain that system?
At 4/11/03 06:32 AM, TheShadowOfLenin wrote:
For your information I didn't say I liked Stalin, he was just another power-mad dictaror, much like Hitler or Saddam. Lenin on the other hand probably killed less than bush has!
Utter bollocks. Lenin set up the Communist secret police and ordered them to kill anyone suspected of being opposed to the revolution. His murdering was greatly overshadowed by Stalin, but he set the precedents that allowed for Stalin's reign.
At 4/10/03 06:03 PM, bumcheekcity wrote:At 4/10/03 11:13 AM, nomisdp wrote: you reckon Syria? lets take bets on this thing. i reckon theyll have pressure on Isreal because people want to annoy them.
Nah Israel appears to have the gree light from the US to do what it pleases. it will be syria, followed by Iran, and maybe north Korea
At 4/9/03 08:45 PM, Lord_Miroku_Sama wrote:At 4/9/03 08:35 PM, nomisdp wrote: I think he will do a Bin Laden. ie disappear and be forgotten about whilst the US move onto their next targetI agree if he's still alive he's probably somewhere secure and he's probably biding his time.
Yep and the USA will leave another country to try and find him whilst they set about convincing the media that another pre-emptive middle-East war (this time against Syria) is a good idea
I think he will do a Bin Laden. ie disappear and be forgotten about whilst the US move onto their next target
At 4/8/03 09:44 PM, implodinggoat wrote:At 4/7/03 09:37 PM, OpIvy420 wrote:attempting to save their ass in VietnamAt 4/7/03 08:24 PM, MadMax501 wrote:
Im pretty sure the US didn't even begin to send in advisors until after the French had left Vietnam and besides which the Vietnam war was in order to defend south Vietnam from the north, not to restore it as a French colony, so i can't see how the US was attempting to aid the French in Vietnam
At 4/8/03 11:35 PM, TheShrike wrote: Flatty, and Starcleaver...
You both have valid points, but to be more specific-
Many foreign governments have modeled their constitutions after ours. And where applicable, Our Declaration of Independence.
Correct me if i'm wrong here but wasn't the declaration of indepedence modelled upon the French declaration of the rights of man?
At 4/8/03 09:32 PM, implodinggoat wrote:At 4/8/03 07:46 AM, ZamiC wrote:
You stupid little fuck, You remember WWII? The Germans had the most advanced weapons by far in that war and if our soldiers hadn't fought as galantly as they had you no where you would be right now
Get your facts straight people. in WW2 Finland was at war with Russia, not Germany.
At 4/8/03 04:15 PM, bumcheekcity wrote:At 4/8/03 04:03 PM, nomisdp wrote: tons of times? nmae an instance other than WW2 that France has been bailed out by the USA?exactly. and in WW2 france wasnt bailed out. if they were taken over, britain would soon fall.
I agree with your sentiments but France was actually taken over by Germany in WW2.
At 4/8/03 05:19 PM, jimsween wrote:At 4/8/03 07:46 AM, ZamiC wrote:
Can you name any other war where we got "fuckt". And as for your hatred of the U.S. government, when finland became A democracy It based it's government on America's so you hate the war so much and think it is wrong you only are saying that your government is also wrong, If we could make a "flaw" like that then you sure could.
Did Finland really base its democracy on the USA or is this an arrogant assumption that the US has the perfect democratic model that all democratic nations follow?
At 4/7/03 09:19 PM, alejandro1 wrote:At 4/7/03 05:53 PM, DarkCyrstal wrote:
I mean, come on, we've bailed their country out tons of times because they dont know how to defend it.
tons of times? nmae an instance other than WW2 that France has been bailed out by the USA?
At 4/2/03 06:22 PM, fourdaddy wrote:At 3/31/03 08:42 AM, Ruination wrote:At 3/30/03 08:59 PM, RageAholic wrote:
i cant believe you people. how could have he 'stolen' the election? PLEASE explain. did he do the recounts (which the crybaby goron wanted so many of) himself? did he add new ballots with him being the chosen president? is it something else?
well for a start Bush got less votes than Gore overall in the election.
Additionally, he illegally removed the voting priviliges of black people in Florida who had minor felonies so that they couldn't vote for Gore
Plus Bush received 544 votes from overseas that were highly questionable and should not have been included.
At 4/7/03 01:53 PM, evilkate wrote: I'm actually more annoyed that we lost 10, 943 on Normandy Beach alone during World War Two liberating those hairy bastards and they didn't back us from the beginning.
The primary purpose of the normandy landings was to make sure that Hitler was defeated before the Russians could overrun europe, not the liberation of France. And in any case why should France HAVE to agree with everything the USA does?
At 4/3/03 07:22 PM, Raptorman wrote:
PS. Hey Tony, if they do kick you out head over here. We need guys like you. We may not be able to make you President, but we will find something for you.
You're quite welcome to the smug git.maybe he can be a footman or something for good ol GW
iraq is all that matters at the moment it would seem
At 1/8/03 10:09 AM, D2KVirus wrote:At 1/7/03 12:09 PM, mulder_xuk wrote: have you noticed that tony blair almost always smiles?It saves him coming up with anything that passes off as a policy. Oh yeah, FUCK THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE "BILL"!!!
Anyone that rips off the Criminal Justice Act (which single handedly cost the Tories their place in Government) is clearly deluded, incompetant, and generally a smug bastard.
I'd say it was more their handling of the European ERM that cost them government
i think it should be illegal. just loook at this link
http://www.b3ta.com/features/awards2003/godkills.jpg
At 10/13/01 07:37 PM, Cav_Man wrote: NOMISDP wrote:
" No. in their paranoia over communism the US suceeded in destabiloising an already fragile area which indirectly led to the rise of thwe Khmer rouge in cambodia. it was not in defence of democracy. it was in defence of capitalism."
Hold on a second. Please explain how the US gave rise to a murderous, Communist outfit like the Kymer Rouge who sought to overthrow the Cambodian government? That is absurd.
Further, what capitalistic enterprise could we possibly have been defending in Viet Nam? Until recent years, we've NEVER had commercial interests there.
okay. I put that badly. I meant to say it was an attack against communism. it was definitely not a defence of democracy however as the US was supporting Bao Diem who was a dictator.
More rambling:
" the US actually stopped elections from taking place in vietnam because they knew that the communists had overwheming support. in addition they manged to completely f**ki up the Vietnamese plant life, piss off practically all of the south vietnamese villagers and generally fget their asses kicked by a poor nation which, incidentally had no support from Russia."
I hardly know where to start... Communists NEVER had overwhelming support, Viet Nam is lush, beautiful, and productive today, the South Vietnamese STILL love Americans, and we most definitely DID NOT get our asses kicked by either the VC or the NVA (who WERE supplied by Russian ships.
Name ONE battle, campaign, or incident of any military significance WHATSOEVER that they won over US troops. You are sadly misinformed, and need to do some reading yourself. I've been in the country twice and read a ton of literature, history, and opinion. You are WAY off base.
i will admit you've caught me off guard. If you want me to reply youll have to wait till I go home and dig out my A level history notes on Vietnam. Though what I will say is if the war in 'nam was going so well then why did the US pull out, and why did the Vietcong conquer south Vietnam?
Key discussion topics:
1) Was the Vietnam War justified? Why or why not?
No. in their paranoia over communism the US suceeded in destabiloising an already fragile area which indirectly led to the rise of thwe
Khmer rouge in cambodia. it was not in defence of democracy. it was in defence of capitalism. the US actually stopped elections from taking place in vietnam because they knew that the communists had overwheming support. in addition they manged to completely f**ki up the Vietnamese plant life, piss off practically all of the south vietnamese villagers and generally fget their asses kicked by a poor nation which, incidentally had no support from Russia. Thus vietnam was not justified and anyone who thinks it was needs to read up a little history.
2) Will we ever regret our war with the Taliban?
At the moment all it seems to be doing is turning muslim opinion further against the west, and destroying UN mine clearance projectsi think its too early to make judgements though
3) What SHOULD we do with Jane Fonda?
ask her to release another workout video?
At 9/25/01 01:51 AM, Stealthcamero wrote: All you un patriotic ppl can kiss my @ss because USA IS THE MOST POWERFUL. i'll give you examples that we have that other countries don't
1. we have a system where no one dictates which russia is trying to copy us but are having problems
yeah a system where you can get fewer votes yet win an election.
2.look back to all the wars USA has been to i.e. Gulf war we recieved no help from other countries
erm what about britain?
i.e. Bill Gates look at the other countries who is more rich than bill gates? I don't know if you can tell me please do he owns at least 50 billion.
the sultan of brunei for one.
even if we did go to holy war we'd still win we got all the best nkes in the world hell we made them USA is the author the creator of nukes.
thats not exactly something to be proud of. i don't thinking nuking a war ravaged country full of the poorest people in the world just to get one man would count as a great victory.
We literly
its spelt literally
the usa has also had a rather stupid policy in the past of replacing democratic socialist regimes with dictatorships (i can't think of anything of the top of my head but if you're that interested I can give examples) and generally messing up things that weren't their business ie Vietnam. in addition to this americans have been funding the terrorist IRA for years.
so your country ain't as great as you say.
At 9/28/01 07:06 AM, stonedskipper_69 wrote: What can i do today that would have been illegal had i done it yesterday?
Drive? if your 17. BTW it was my 18th yesterday so i can legally drink in the UK. woo hoo!
At 9/25/01 09:51 PM, DUDE4U wrote: Just some info. i thought people would like to know about the tallest buildings in the world or should i say was the tallest buildings in the world.
they weren't actually the tallest buildings in the world. the Petronas twin towers in Malaysia are the tallest buildings in the world.
Dumbass they done found Bin Laden guilty you stupid jackass. what about you! U don't even know me and you gonna say some stupid shit at me. Boy u got fuckin nerve. I ain't waste my time on someone like you stupid ass. oh another thing. whats with the word dumbfuck. Is that all you know. I mean really. No wonder people think its easy to bomb us because they got people like your stupid ass out there. got fuck off!!!!!!!!!!1
would you please SHUT THE HELL UP! and stay in school it may put some sense into your thick head. and teach you how to spell.
am I the only one who thinks that its extremely hypocritical of america to go on about this war on terrorism when they have been funding the IRA for years? I think the amount of idiots posting their blind over patriotic crap on here is also scary.
Nomis
Ok, where the hell is the money?? anyone know?
the money is in the mailboxes (the thing on the back wall) in the lobby. type get mail and oyu'll get the money. from then on its fairly simple
