566 Forum Posts by "Nitroglys"
its not jst the muslims. Even we do it. On the kansas state quater they had a bull on it and you could tell it was a male bull. They called it in and it was changed to an A-sexual bull.
For those of you who missed the "What really happened" topic here are my list of sources.
Deja Vu
This sounds familar
A nice pic of the pentagon
A better pic so you can do the math yourself
A link to a site about the pentagons 3rd layer punch out.
Terrorist who are alive.
And the significance of this? It only tells you that there is no truth in the identity of the hijackers and linking them to Al Queada that justified the invasion of afganistan.
No one in the sheriffs office will comment i will follow up with info later when presented.
If knowlege is power than ignorance is helplessness. If you and accept what your told by your gov't your perpetuating the cycle that lets them get away with what they do. If you don't at least entertain the thought of a conspiracy you are helpless and only weaking the community with your ignorance.
At 8/1/06 07:15 PM, Aubric wrote: No charges were immediately filed, but the case has been referred to the county prosecutor’s office
Looks to me like it's going to court. That's not a slap on the wrist.
aaawww but he didnt go to jail, he will go to some sympathizing court and get community service.
At 8/1/06 06:22 PM, MortifiedPenguins wrote:
I don't know, how do they let you on this board.
Ha ha (clap clap) got me totally burned.
That is DUI, unlawful fireing of a weapon, Threating harm, and creating a standoff situation. How can they let these guys get off with this with no more than a slap on the wrist?
At 7/31/06 04:48 PM, DarthTomato wrote: in the conspiracy was way off, then nothing would happen. but what about the person managed to get it right? considering that government agents look like normal people.. staging an "accident" wouldn't be a problem at all.
if the government can bring down 2 towers and damage the pentagon with no problem, then surely having the theorist's brakes suddenly fail wouldn't be a problem. or have a common thug kill him for no reason, making it a federal case, a mock trial goes on, the person is sentenced to life in prison without parole, where he... just sort of vanishes...
for a body as powerful at the american government, covering up a conspiracy wouldn't be a hard task at all.
Your damn right it wouldn't be hard. Heres something the gov't did and got away with. And the Petriel guy is still in jail still trying to make parole. The gov't has the power and ability to do such things and the don't need to worry about people like me who believe differ than they are told. They can depend on people like you who take in "information" all the time and believe it as fact. You should know that any gov't has the ability to do this(genocide in Africa, The Taliban gov't). Just cause the U.S. doesn't have such a horific history doesn't mean that we don't get dirty in order to make some money.
At 7/31/06 03:47 PM, DarthTomato wrote:At 7/29/06 01:33 PM, mrshizel wrote:he doing that to remind people what happened and who really did all of that so the people see what our goverment is really doing so...i dont think thats a bunch of b.s.zombies!! RUN!!!!
seriously, this is getting old, seems like idiot conspiracy theorists get a huge fan backing off a crappily made, yet semi believable (if you're ignorant, or just plain stupid) story.
Here's the best rebuttal I've EVER heard to a government conspiracy theory. why is the theorist still alive? if the government was willing to kill over 3,000 of its own people, why not silence the conspiracy theorists?
OMG beacuause it would look a little suspicious when a whole bunch of conspiracy theorist start dieing. And where in your rant did you site any flaws or anything other than just saying your right.
Well Shit dude i said i didn't like the idea of internet sources for credibility factors but shit man i'll play ball.
Deja Vu
This sounds familar
Here's the specs of the pentagon plane crash.
And a better pic so you can do the math yourself.
A link to a site about the pentagon's 3rd layer punch out.
Terrorist Who Are alive.
And the significance of this? It only tells you that there is no truth in the identity of the hijackers and linking them to Al Queada that justified the invasion of afganistan.
O yeah no sarcasm intended but i want a source or sumting that has what you guys think happened.
We could go back and forth giving each other reasons, sources, and views that may or may not be true. And the whole source thing i never liked for viable evidence cause i can find a web site that proves that hitlers still alive and is behind a pyramid sceme to sell us knives. The fact that im pushing and have been pushing from the start is that( besides my hate for the dead of 9/11) is that there was way to much that went wrong with home defense on 9/11. Osama was an FBI agent, we aided him with money and arms. and when he went "rouge" in the late 80's he got kicked out of 3 countries before he found harbor in the taliban ran afganistan. Now what would be the greatest weapon for a gov't looking to start a war with the middle east. Osama an old gov't connection who got his anti american publicity, and the gov't helped organize an attack to benifit them. Ok that is what i think happened, and that is exactly why we havent found him. we have the entire earth covered with sattilites and cant find a 6 ft arab but once bush's polls drop we find the 2nd most elusive terrorist. its all just to quinceindence. Im dont think that the whole gov't is in this conspiracy alone, i think the needed some terrorism and who you gunna call.
o yeah and TheSoverighn FUCK AMERICA it is one of the most disgusting imperalistic gov'ts yet. thats why when i get a good amount of money im moving to New Zealand.
Not to count the fact that your precious MarkyX contridicts himself a couple times in that movie.
At 7/28/06 02:51 PM, BlisteringFreakachuu wrote:
Yes, that was debnked in the video "Screw Loose Change". Here's the part that debunks the bullshit you just tried to feed to me: http://www.youtube.c..rew%20Loose%20Change
from 3:43 to 5:40.
/Loose Change has been debunked more times than Israel has caused a conflict in the middle east. Come on, now.
Ok thats some evidence i would trust a video by some old guy that rights a comic strip. what a trusted source.
At 7/28/06 02:20 PM, BlisteringFreakachuu wrote:At 7/28/06 01:37 PM, Nitroglys wrote: like i said their is footage of dead jews in german concentration camps that we knew of. there is no such evidence in 9/11. all we have is a american airlines plane flying into the WTC ,and a sketchy video of what doesnt even look like osama connecting it to terrorism.Really, this doesn't look like him?
Also, I like how you basically said "There's no such evidence of 9/11... EXCEPT TWO FUCKING PLANES CRASHING INTO 1 AND 2 WORLD TRADE CENTER." We also have video of an object that's atleast 15 feet in height, hitting the Pentagon. No missiles that I know of have such a diameter.
ok and if you watched loose change they connected it with a smaller jet plane that's engiene was found at the crash instead of a 757's engiene.
Also, in 1998, Osama signed a fatwa calling for the killing of American citizens.
ok then why wait till 2001, if i wanted to make a statement like a fatwa i would call it and within at the most months have and attack.
So far, there have been 4 tapes of Osama ADMITTING TO BE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THE ATTACKS.
The 9/11 commission report found Al-Qaeda to be responsible.
Ha the 9/11 commision report a watered down report of the "truth" that had a total of 11 pages censored. real viable evidence.
Is it so hard to believe that muslim extremists who hate our country, who hate our people, who hate our way of life, who hates our support of Israel decided, while being funded by a murderous billionaire to execute a terror plot?
Osama is hardly rich, your thinking of his parents with ties to the white house.There has also been tapes of Osama claiming no conection. Unless Osama holds a press confrence there is no viable evidence of the connection. these tapes are useless im not gunna believe them if they go through screenings and editings. If They wanted to bring our country to our knees why wouldnt they go for more important building like the CIA or FBI headquarters or even the white house. the symbol of American gov't would be my first place to attack. We've been trying to make excuses for war since WW1 we could of stoped the luscitania. and in WW2 we tried to blow up a deystroyer and blame it on the Germans untill pearl harbor. And if you saw loose change we tried to start a war with Cuba by fabricating a plane crash, but was reject by kennedy.
At 7/28/06 08:02 AM, x_Toadenalin_x wrote:At 7/27/06 05:58 PM, Nitroglys wrote:So your saying by questioning the "fact" of 9/11 where by chance 2572 died us conspiracy theorist are spitting on the graves of those who died. Were not running our conspiracy theorist machine on the dead, but trying to give those who died, what we see as, justice threw the propaganda.Like Proteas says, hundreds of experts have disproved all of your claims. Even if you were totally corroberated, what are you going to do about it? The government murdered two and a half thousand people in cold blood. Why would they not just kill you too?
Is that how you like to feel. That we can't stand up for we believe in cause were scared of the gov't. If the holocaust happened without any damning evidence and the Germans came out with a report that claimed a terrorist group commited it all, would you believe it. You would sit there and believe that the German gov't let some terrorist group commit millions of murders and tortures right under their noses and they couldn't of done anything. Its the same thing here we have a mass genocide commited by our own goverment so a whole bunch of private oil companies could grow emencely rich setting record profits. just today exxon mobil set a record 10 billion in profit a 40% increase since last year alone, and its been doing that the past 5 years. And why wouldn't they just kill me too? come on thats a dumb enough question you can answer yourself.
And yes, questioning whether this happened is EXACTLY the same as questioning whether the holocaust happened. Historical revisionism, in all forms, is absoloutely unconcienable to me.
like i said their is footage of dead jews in german concentration camps that we knew of. there is no such evidence in 9/11. all we have is a american airlines plane flying into the WTC ,and a sketchy video of what doesnt even look like osama connecting it to terrorism.
Ok maybe more likely, but motive is higher in the gov'ts case they saw billions of dollars. All the taliban/Al Queada had was spite.Sorry, what motivation did the government have exactly? The answer you give at the bottom of the post is basically worthless. If the government wanted money, why not just up taxes by about 0.3p per ratepayer for the same effect
also like i said earlier if for private oil companies. if you raise tax it just goes to the gov't itself and the higherarchay can just skim a little off the top. Think about it Bush had connections with the bin laden family for many years. And what motive remotely does Al Queada have, damn near nothing. If they hated America for opressing countries then any one in their right mind would know that an attack such as 9/11 would bring and invasion. DUR answer that smart boy.
Arguably, you should back up claims like that. SOMEONE must have been on the flights. It is pretty damn unlikely that anyone survived slamming a jet into the side of a building. So SOMEONE must have died. So exactly how do you work out that the hi-jackers are still alive?O yeah all those"Al Quaeda hijackers" Who still happen to be living.Keeping in mind that the video IS the only link to terrorism for 9/11.Apart from the fact that the hijackers were all Al Quaeda members?
OMG did you even give that movie a chance it explains everything to a hair. the flights could have easily been remote controled, as was possible in the 1960s for christ sake. they took the families on the planes already and did god know what with them. and framed 16 guys who 11 of which have been confirmed alive by multiple soursces. if your such an anti loose change at least watch the movie so you can know what to make up to disprove it.
It doesnt have to be conspiracy theories you admire, but the people who stand up for what they believe is right, what they belive in.You know all those KKK members and Neo-Nazis? I admire every word they say. After all, they are standing up for what they believe is right; the gassing of Jews and enslaving of blacks. How can you not admire them?
jesus man come on heard of thing called free speach. thats why this country is great. It is their right to believe that and as long as their only expressing their opinion its perfectly fine and i dont care. Although what they believe is disgusting no one can or should do anything to stop them(unless some type of crime is involved)
Im not asking you to go out on the streets and protest im just asking you to open up your mind to possibilites.OK. So offer me some proof then. I'm not going to change my mind if you just keep telling me you are right and I am wrong.
What do you think i've been doing. i've offered counters to everything you've said(except the ann coulter thing) and the facts i've givein you are just as hard as the facts you've givin me. other wise it would just be a nut uh, uh huh. debate goin on.
So the war on Afganistan was started by 9/11? Seems possible. But why would the government want to declare was on Afganistan when there are plenty of richer countries you could have invaded?
And then the war on Iraq, which has far, far more scandle associated with the reconstruction costs was not started by 9/11 (apart from some idiot Conservatives claiming there was a link between Saddam and Al Quaeda, which there was not.)
Maybe richer countries but none the easier. Afganistan was a country so flimsy all we needed to do was drop a few happy meals on it and the entire population is on our side so then we just need to take their oil. you do know that the middle east is one of the richest places in oil(Afganistan and Iraq being part of the middle east). And i bet in a few years when we have made both counties our provinces so many oil dereks will pop up it you wouldnt believe it. Ya that idiot conservitive happens to be the president who any many ocations claimed the link up until a year or so ago.
Ok Proteas the movie hasnt been disproven completly. and the parts that have, have nothing to pertain to gov't envlovlment, just some crap about wether or not the planes had window and crap. And why should we care, ok lets be like Africa and let our gov't commit mass genocide and just turn our heads is that the kind of human being you are. Geez and they say im disgracing the dead at 9/11.
At 7/27/06 03:39 PM, x_Toadenalin_x wrote:At 7/27/06 03:04 PM, Nitroglys wrote:
I'm saying that using their deaths as an excuse to push anti-government propaganda is an insult to their memory. I stand by what I said.
So your saying by questioning the "fact" of 9/11 where by chance 2572 died us conspiracy theorist are spitting on the graves of those who died. Were not running our conspiracy theorist machine on the dead, but trying to give those who died, what we see as, justice threw the propaganda.
The amount of evidence that supports terrorism is just as decisive as the conspiracy theory.Terrorism: Al Quaeda admitted it, no gaping flaws in story, more likely than government wide conspiracy.
Ok maybe more likely, but motive is higher in the gov'ts case they saw billions of dollars. All the taliban/Al Queada had was spite.
Conspiracy Theory: Seems to suggest the government is evil, so it must be true.
Keeping in mind that the video IS the only link to terrorism for 9/11.Apart from the fact that the hijackers were all Al Quaeda members?
O yeah all those"Al Quaeda hijackers" Who still happen to be living.
And you sitting there shameing theorist for questioning when you should admire these people for not following the norm.I admire peadophiles and rapists for not following the norm, but I draw the line at admiring conspiracy theorists.
It doesnt have to be conspiracy theories you admire, but the people who stand up for what they believe is right, what they belive in. Not admiring those people is just un-american in its self.
Because what if some type of conspiracy was going on and you just sat there and belived what you were told like a child, blind to the fact.I'd be an idiot. But I'd be even stupider to be concerned about a non-exisant conspiracywhen there are far bigger injustises (Natwest Three, Extradition flights, G8 in Russia) to be worried about
Im not asking you to go out on the streets and protest im just asking you to open up your mind to possibilites. I mean sure there is a chance that osama for some reason after we trained and armed him decieded to turn on us. But it also could be a self inflicted wound that let to a pre-emtive war that is surrounded by dirty money.
At 7/27/06 07:43 AM, x_Toadenalin_x wrote:
Topic Starter: Are you going to sit behind that video as your entire defense, or would you like to debate with someone, so I can smash your petty conspiracy theorist bullshit to pieces like it deserves. 2752 people died. The least you can do is honour their memories by not using their deaths to push some psuedo anti-government horsecrap.
O yeah get at the conspiracy theorist on dishonouring their death, ha thats a good one. You tell us that not beleiving what out gov't tells us is dishonouring their deaths, keep in mind that this is the same gov't that told us Iraq had weapons of mass destruction but instead had some aluminum pipes used to make building equipment or toys the same gov't that marked venezuala's president as a terrorist just cause he didnt open up his oil market to us. The amount of evidence that supports terrorism is just as decisive as the conspiracy theory. You give us evidence that "debunks" our story but cant even back up your accusations of terrorism. Yours theories just as flimsy as ours. And how dare you even think of coming down on us conspiracy theorist for dishonouring when you sit and let that media whore Ann Coulter get publicity for her book that makes the widows and widowers of 9/11 look like money hungry dogs. That right there is pretty close to the definition of dishonouring.
And why haven't i heard anything "debunking" the part of loose change that questions if the terror video is osama or not. for damn near 10 years private casino owners have been using face recignition to keep repeat cheaters out of their casino. Are you saying that our gov't doesnt have the capabilites to confirm or deny that the person in the video is osama. Keeping in mind that the video IS the only link to terrorism for 9/11. And you sitting there shameing theorist for questioning when you should admire these people for not following the norm. Because what if some type of conspiracy was going on and you just sat there and belived what you were told like a child, blind to the fact. The only theory that would dishonour the 2752 people dead is if it claim that everyone that died, died beacuse of their own doing.
At 7/25/06 07:55 PM, Fenrus1989 wrote: Thats what Hippys are basically.
Lazy, self centered and greedy. They don't want to actually work for anything and to have everything handed to them.
You know im sick of you brainwashed bastards who see the hippy as a lazy stoners looking for an easy way of exsisting. All though i am not speaking for all hippies, a good portion are people who have an educated mind on the political standings of earth and are finding their" inner peace." If you take a stand against people like this you must have some type of vendetta of all the lower class who are living off of welfare their entire life. And beacuse they have found a way to sustain life without using curancy doesn't make them lazy it makes them a great inspriation for a possible promise land of economic stabliity.
If you know what wimp.com is and know what happened to it please tell me. If you don't know what happened it changed. Someone tell me what happened.
Just follow the famous words of Winston Churchill" Capitalism is the worst form of goverment ever, but its the best one we have."
We're the reason the middle east hates the jews beacause we created isreal.
Im tired of people making Chavez out to be some dictorial power crazed mass murderer. The guy is the best thing to happen to Venezuela, he has spent countless millions of his oil money on Venezuelas poorest areas. And every time someone says anything about socialism they scream hitler. Socialism, like communism, is a great idea if headed by the right person and can bring countries out of economic hell. And the election bill he is trying to pull off would be perfectly fine as long as there is an election and a posibility of him getting out of office. The guy is a godsend and were just trying to make him out as a bad guy either to give us this tunnel vision on that fact and not the fact that hes making our country look bad, or to set the tracks for an invasion of him too.
You guys are starting to sound like Pat Robertson.
The military is a good way to help get out of a bad financal situation, but do i think that the military is good, no. It exploits the public to the fullest degree. Making them pay the ultimate price. The glory day of the meaningful war is over.
You guys dont get it these protests aren't illegal immagrants their legal immagrants who are speaking out againts gov't legislation that would make it harder to get into america. And these people have every right to protest, strike, or burn the flag and no one should do anything.
At 4/21/06 10:21 PM, Jediashley wrote:At 4/11/06 01:09 AM, Shin-Tenshu wrote: terrorists want to harm us because we have harmed them.what the?no.they're jealous of us.They hate what we have in this country.Freedon (wich i think we dont really have)
you are a prime example of a mindless zombie that the gov't wants. you actually believe they attacked us for our freedoms. even if they had anything to do with 9/11 it would be beacuse our gov't is up to their elbows in oil they stole from them. I wonder if you have an orriginal thought or do you just do what your told?
anyone what happened to the transcripts of the calls to the other planes. I mean its not like the only people who had phones were on flight 93, and why did the other planes make it and only 93 went down. how come united spent millions of dollars to install a experimental cell phone tower on an airplane when they worked so well on 9/11. Flight 93 was a hero roll the american public could rally behind. we have been taken.
People have to start figuring out that we got ourselves into the Iraq war. thats right our gov't pretty much flew the planes right into the towers blammed the terrorists, cause it is just so easy to pin such a thing on a unrepresented organazation, and then just had to make a connection between the terrorist and the middle east(Afganistan for its Taliban gov't, and we got Iraq souly on WMDs and "saddam harboring terrorists") People dont know how much money is being made off this war 3000 deaths isn't shit to trillions of dollars to them. terrorist didnt attack on 9/11 it was a self inflicted wound.
The insurgents are pissed beacuse we're imposing something different on them and no one likes change. Iran wants nuclear weapons for a bigger muscle.
If you think about almost everyone in the US is a sympathetic person toward the middle east, and dont get me wrong its fucked up there. But there is a lot of shit happen everywhere else. For instance the Hutu and Tutsi conflict is a big problem. AIDS in africa is an incredably threating epidemic.. And i know that were tryin to disarm North Korea but more attention should be payed to that, i mean they have misseles pointed at the west coast. the population is skyrocekting. Russia is almost one big ghetto, they have a busted nuclear silo. we are draggin Britan into the line of fire for terriost. and that is just outside our country. We are still battle racism in out country, those sick fuckers we call the KKK and those Neo-Nazis. Profiling is another big problem in our country. it seems like ever senice 9/11 any who has a turbun is automaticly a terrorist. i've seen people get spit on for being arabian. all this attention being payed to the middle east, which is fucked up, but it isnt as big as some of the problem our society is facing. Right now i think we need to either get a quick set up of the Iraqi gov't and get out or make Iraq a province.
ann coulter is just a brainwashed figurehead for the right wing. they use her to promote their belifs and do it without having some fat bald guy do it.
now pat robertson on the other hand is just some rouge person with a following who could just as esaily be some govener condoning the death penalty as a televangalist. is he crazy, no but he has some oppions that the "lord" wouldnt think highly of.
