At 10/22/05 01:35 PM, Myst_Williams wrote: Active: "The dog bit the boy."
Passive: "The boy was bitten by the dog."
Haha, I went and looked it up, and found a site to help clarify. Oddly enough, it has the same example I used. : )
At 10/22/05 05:29 AM, Alkador wrote: Active: "I can make cakes."
Passive: "Cakes are made of flour."
Just to clarify...
Active: "The dog bit the boy."
Passive: "The boy was bitten by the dog."
The simplist example you will ever get. Notice how they are still both past tense, but the difference in the sentence. Less words is generally more active, but don't mark that as its only characteristic. That was just how I originally used. So using the extra word 'was' makes it passive. Active is stronger writing, and should be used more often than passive.
At 10/21/05 11:31 PM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote: Fair enough. But I think you left before me >: ( you stopped posting for a great many months rofl.
for me it was only around 2 i think :P
Haha, ya. You know I always come back.
Lololol fair enough dude. I live down the end of the street...
Haha, I dunno man. Maybe your excuse is that tennis takes all your energy and this is your down time? : )
well, you're always 'away'! just said hey to you now, but i think at the moment you are out somewhere....
Ya, I was at a party last night (actually between three of the,). Awesome night. I met tons of people, got a couple numbers too, which was to my surprise when I wok up this morning. One of my buddies said I got the shit slapped out of me by a girl too. I don't even remember what I did. I actually didnt get home until 6:30 this morning.
I'm gonna be around for a few more hours if you're staying up dude.
Sorry I missed you. I will catch you soon I hope.
At 10/21/05 11:00 PM, DMXRoid wrote: Actually, since you want to get semantic on me, hyperbole is defined as "a deliberate exaggeration or overstatement". It's not sad, it's definitive.
...for emphasis or effect. I got my big ass websters dictionary out. I was right.
Teach me, I'm studying it.Well, where to start, really, is with Plato...
It was sarcasm, as in, I alreay know... because I am studying it.
Japan.I was referring to the current war in Iraq/Afghanistan, but I'll accept Japan as a response, and counter that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki actually saved more lives than it cost. If we had continued our fire-bombing campaign, millions more Japanese and Americans would have died. By shocking them into surrender, we prevented a bloodbath.
Easily said, this is no better than terrorism itself, and quite possibly could be considered as such an act. Though the attack was claimed to be on a military target, it is well known that little militancy was permanently oppressed by the act, but instead scared (like the goal of terrorism) to stop all means of attack. Sadly, days later, even after the attack seemingly stopped all means of aggression, another bomb is dropped.
1.) You said "terrorism is mass death". Your lack of inclusion of other definitions is a good reason for me to assume that is what you meant.
I said "Terrorism = Mass death" but it could = many other things... thanks for putting words in my mouth, but I understand your perspective as you seem to have been just as vague a few times over.
2.) I am _not_ confusing terrorism with assasination. If Mohammen ben Islam goes and blows himself up in the plaza, but only kills one 9 year old Jewish girl on a field trip instead of 900, that's still terrorism.
Not neccessarily. Why was he there? Terrorism is the why, not the how.
Oh, wow, way to define yourself into being correct. Unfortunately, that's an incredibly naive and limited definition of terrorism, because it can easily be construed to include any and all threats and/or use of force. In reality, if I threaten to beat the shit out of some dude, that's not terrorism. In your definition, it is. It fails the reality test.
If you noticed the '...' you would know there was more and it was much longer, this I summed it up... and in there I pointed out... oh... government.
I think that it's safe to say that 99%+ of terrorist attacks are by Arabs or Muslims.
You wouldn't be more wrong then. The Chinese have had many terrorist caught and captivated. And that is just a small point...
No, that's the point. A man who is NOT a Muslim could NOT just as likely become a terrorist as a Muslim. While both COULD become terrorists, Mohammed is more likley than Johnny by a large factor.
Not neccessarily, as Terrorist are a small percentage (less than 2) of muslims who read the text in a perversed way.
Yes, but then you went and tried to negate my opinion by saying that I don't know how Arabs live, and I didn't grow up in that culture. Your relatavism has been exposed as fraudulent, move on.
I never saw such a sort. And remember who started this conversation in the first place. You commented on my original post.
Oh, I'm sorry, do you not like being confronted with the results of your ideology? That's what goes on in the Islamic world, and you can't ignore it because it displeases you.
What did that have to do with you being a jerk, and swearing, and pulling out fact that are rarer than you think, especially when 90% of it is considered sin in their own religion.
What? That sentence is hardly coherent. In case you forgot, Bush won an election not even a year ago with the most votes that any candidate EVER recieved. Yes, his numbers are down now, but that's hardly related to the war on terror.
Then you are being blinded.
This, more than any other sentence you've written, proves that you just don't get it, and have such a limited view of reality, the war on terror, and politics in general that it may well be impossible to continue this.
So somehow not commenting on what I said, and beating around it by insulting me makes your views any less limited?
Wow. What don't you get dude? Islam is the EXACT same today as it was 1400 years ago. While, yes, people still practice it today, they're adhering to the totality of a religion whose prnciples and edicts are stuck in the morality of the 7th century. This isn't fucking rocket science.
I still don't understand what you are trying to prove here?
If no one can be right, how do you evaluate competing views?
Sadly, society evaluated them by normes, trends, et cetera. The majority at most.
And I'd pwn you then just like I'm pwning you now.
One of your most intelligent comments yet. And if you hadn't noticed, you still havnt proved anything over me, and have yet to convince me of anything. So, how are you 'pwning' me?
No, that's what comes with being advanced. Once you're the standard bearer for civilization, everyone else has to act like you or you don't acknowledge them.
Thats just pathetic and prejudice. Good for you. Your a true heart. Try figuring out what life means to you man. It might give you some external perspectives.
At 10/21/05 09:49 PM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote: Lol, i hear that. I stopped posting for a few months aswell... Now it's only a few posts here and there every week for me.
I guess we were around the same time then, I didnt notice you left.
I actually have a social life, to some extent now :D lawl.
Ya, well, I always did... I just lived 30 minutes fro mthe city I went to school, so I always had a lot of spare time not being close to freinds. Now that I am in University, my freinds are next door. lol.
Better not be a one-off thing, you coming in here :P
Come by more often.
No, no. I plan on checking in a few times a week, and posting whenever I feel it is relevant. : )
Anyway, how have you been? We havnt talked on MSN much lately.
Semi-American
You are 74% American!
You either moved here at an early age or you don't exactly understand the neighbors you grew up with. You understand most of American ideas and ideals, you can talk about and be listened to about American subjects, but try not to get too deep into it because there are more advanced Americans around you with better bullshit detectors.
What the hell... Im Canadian...
Everytime I see on the BBS I can't help but think of my old english teacher. That name... that damn name.
I am glad some people saw my point. I am glad to see not everyone has a closed mind with narrow views.
And to the person with the facts about musli mthat were mostly false saying that I was defending terrorists... you read with your eyes... thought you might want to know that since i stated four or more times iwas not defending them, but was defending the people who are condemed because of the small percentage who make their religious beleifs look bad. Its called an open mind. Terrorism will never be just.
P.S. I am not even american.
At 10/21/05 08:46 PM, Solid-Snake1991 wrote: I'd like to join, but i don't know how. Can you tell me how? PLeez.
You already did it. You asked. : ) Welcome.
Post some writing for critique, review, pleasure... or just read along.
At 10/21/05 05:25 PM, FBIpolux wrote: A New Ground’s Story – Part 8.1
...things. She knew what to do in such situations. Her young master, the Mystic William, had taught everything she knew about martial arts, katana handling and crossbow shooting. There were doors at each sides of the wall.
I was mentioned! : ) I wonder what is i nstore for my new found character.
Don't worry, Myst_William will make a check up on the story when I'll have it finished.
Sure will. We should discuss that via email one day too.
I'll post 8.3 tonight.
Can't freaking wait. : )
At 10/21/05 08:25 AM, M-A-R-C-U-S wrote: Noes, that spamming whore left a while ago :D
Haha
Well, well, well, well, you were never here to support your family!!! *cries*
Ya, I know. I ditched NG for a couple months there. Social life got the best of my time.
Good to see you around the BBS again :D
Thanks.
At 10/20/05 11:41 PM, MALforPresident wrote: ignorant and close minded..
fuckers never use those correctly. i have a friend, very liberal, outspoken girl. but fucking hell, she has herself VERY close minded...
Ya, Im arguing with a very close minded perso nright now i nthe political section. I keep saying "I agree with you, but that doesnt mean we are right".. .and he just keeps arguing "Yes it does! I am right"... its annoying me, but whatever.
lets just stop while you're ahead, eh?
Haha ya.
i am very much like that, i'd act like a moron, then two minutes later i'm reading a college level social science text book for fun.
Same man.
at the moment i'm reading "slaughterhouse five' by kurt vonnaget. and "the resteraunt at the end of the universe"(sequal to "hitchikers guide to the galaxy") as well as "the american character" (a WWII book on american society and the typical american psyche)
Three books at once. Busy busy.
At 10/21/05 02:50 AM, XwaynecoltX wrote: General- Everyone in one place Crazy...
Haha, true.
Politics- Mature and somewhat interesting topics
Ya, sort of. Some people I think are just there to argue. Like my fourth post in there and I had some guy attacking me when I had not even said anything to him, or about him.
C&C- a more improved General forum with more of an interest
My personal fav really... onlg because of the Writer's Guild though. Oh, and here. : )
WI/HT- Once was a very Mature place but has recently been crowded with Spamming fools
That is why I have kind of slowly stumbled out. I drop in to help someone once and a while, but thats it really now. I joined just as it was starting to go downhill. I got some of the best moments, then it got ripped from under me. : P
Glad to see it back up, but what part were we at last? So I know when to step back in.
Awesome FBI!!!
At 10/21/05 02:08 AM, TheBoneThug wrote: Thanks Myst, Did you check out the stories dude?
I skimmed through. Didnt read them all yet tho. : )
At 10/21/05 12:41 AM, DMXRoid wrote: *sigh* Hyperbole doesn't quite catch on your brain, does it?
You call that emphasis for effect? Sad, really.
Sir, there is a large body of philosophy that deals with the question of "what is rational", and what the role of government is. Since I'm not prepared to teach you
Teach me, I'm studying it.
I'll define it thus: a rational action is that with the highest return of utility, defined as a unit of human happiness…
Even though your definition is incorrect, all you did was prove my point. Or am I missing something?
Show one example where civilian deaths caused by US forces were anything but collateral.
Japan.
Well, first off, no, mass death isn't terrorism. An act of terrorism can kill one person, or a million. It's not the numbers, but the motive and methodology that matter.
I never said it was the only form of terrorism. And you are mixing up assassination. What is terrorism? Actual definition: The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
Note: people. Nothing about methodology either.
To sum it up: a violent act in order to intimidate or coerce a government.
Secondly, you couldn't be more wrong about the goals of terrorists, or, if in this case you're just defending Islam, the mandates that Islam places upon its followers…
I never opposed such a notion.
You're right, some of them were just regular Iraqi army, but not all of them.
Exactly.
No, it's not too broad. It's statistical fucking fact.
You going to tell me exactly what most is? It is broad.
And it IS relevant. If Johnny Smith is only 1/1000000000000th as likely to become a terrorist as Habib al Jamar, you fucking take a look at Habib al Jamar, and you focus on him more.
What does that have to do with? You can' really determine that either. A man born with nothing to do with any religion could be a terrorist just as likely as someone born an arab.
You're right, there are Arabs who disagree with me and aren't terrorists. However, you're missing my point …
My point is that it isn’t the only view... so it doesn’t make you right. I never said it wasn’t a valid opinion. You have every right to that opinion.
Wow, that's kinda disgusting. You think women …
I like how you have to resort to swearing, and images such as that. But who said that maybe society had grown a different direction her in America and such things were accepted. Who the hell knows? You can’t actually state. In some Asian countries prostitution is a legit, well-respected occupation... does that make it right? You can argue either way, which makes it opinion.
Exactly, whcih is why your argument about how I don't understand because I didn't grow up Arab is a fallacy.
It was implied that of an Arab of that perspective.
No, not all terrorists are suicidal, but many are, and no, it's not effective. If it were, they'd be winning.
And who said they aren’t? Think about the cripple the war on terror has had on your country, and not just financially, but amongst Americans. If Bush were able to be up for president again, you wouldn't win anyway. Proven numbers.
What's the right way then?
He attacked Iraq... his excuse... nuclear weapons... were there any? He doesn’t invade an entire country to weed out a faction. The faction isn't the country itself. You work with the government of that country. If they don't feel the need, or don’t want to help, you secure it from an outer perspective. I too wish the terrorists were shot to hell, but it doesn’t justify then death, or the invasion.
What's your solution, exactly?
Solution? I don't have one, but neither does Bush. Look at London... all this time, and they didn't stop terrorism. And this war could go on for 100 more years, and terrorism would still occur.
Dude, historical fact. Mohammed lived around 600 AD.
Do you know what derived means? As in, what did Islam derive from.. at one point... the stone age.
So, as opposed to _every_ Western religion and political philosophy, Islam is structurally built for a 7th Century world.
No it isn't, or it wouldnt exist today. It is structured for whatever time they want to follow it in.
Yeah, that's the kind of argument I made my way through when I was 12 years old. I know lots of people keep it through high school, but at some point, the cliche of "the wierd are the normal" becomes a little tried.
Haha, I never agreed with it. I proposed a question... whose to say? If you read it the way you did, maybe you are stuck.
If I am not to say what's right, then I have absolutely no conviction about what I believe. I might as well be a Protestant, or something…
No, you can have views. I do too, a lot of which coincide with yours, but it doesn’t make either of us right.
But it's not just that, it's that I can give you good reasons why my philosophy and way of life is better than theirs. Do you really have any argument for…
You are stereotyping again. Plus, I bet if I was one of those people, I could argue each point to the wazoo, I have no idea.
Being advanced gives me the right to judge the less advanced.
It does not give you that right. That is a sadistic statement.
At 10/21/05 12:30 AM, Myst_Williams wrote:WHat kind of dumb, non-sequitor is that?It is neither dumb, nor non-sequiter. It makes for a perfectly good conclusion.
Bah, I like how we both spelt sequitur wrong. lol. Anyway, Off to bed I am. I havnt any class tomorrow, but I have been lacking sleep this week.
At 10/21/05 12:15 AM, DMXRoid wrote:You do relaize the stonage age was 45000 - 1500 BC (that is if you include Neolithic era, so I was being nice - otheriwse 8000)... so you are way fucking off.Oohhh, yeah, except that's not what I'm saying. ISLAM is 1400 years old,
...derived from?
and hasn't undergone any reformations or changes in that 1400 year span, so, they're working with a 1400 year old political system.
I dont know if that is true, but I will assume it is, and say... so?
I dunno where you're going off on this stone age thing.
Are you slow? Like, you seem intelligent, use your head. I am not your elementary teacher.
WHat kind of dumb, non-sequitor is that?
It is neither dumb, nor non-sequiter. It makes for a perfectly good conclusion.
So you're ok with cutting off a 9 year old girls clitoris because you don't want her to enjoy sex, thus decreasing the chances that she'll cheat on the husband who comes home and beats her?
So, more random, not always factual things that dont apply to ALL people of the region.
Yes, the fact that we're more advanced DOES make us better.
Nope. You are not to say what is right. Who says that maybe the insane are the true essence, and the rest of being, and norme, are the hinderence. Whose to say what is right? Not you, not I... so you can;t judge, nore say. All you can say is that you prefer to be advanced.
That's what being advanced is all about.
No, advancment is the seeking of knowledge. Not about being better. That was a rediculous staement.
At 10/21/05 12:09 AM, DMXRoid wrote: No, it wouldn't, because we wouldn't be blowing up schools, hospitals, children, and all other forms of civilians in order to impose a despotic theocracy, oppress women, and stifle freedom in every form.
Didnt you just say blow up everything from Jordan to Pakistan? Should I quote.
It'd be the only legitimate use of the government, according to the Constitution and all rational theories of government. The only reason the state should exist is to defend us from foreign enemies.
And whos to say whats rational? Are you all of a sudden some higher power? Is the american government?
How is Bush acting like a terrorist, exactly? By attacking those whose sole desire is to destroy us and spread the reign of militant Islam across the globe?
Um, Well, like I said earlier (as you used argument that could not be proven as fact), but from my understainding is that people have died... non terrosrist, who simply want to co-exist, but i nthe way they were accustomed to. Mass death = terrorism. And before you make claims like 'whose sole desire is to destroy us and spread the reign of militant Islam across the globe', understand the view first. You are way off base.
And yes, there is a definition of terrorist, and the people Saddam supported fit it pretty well. They were the kind of people who blew themselves up in pizzarias and dance clubs in Israel, killing teenagers and babies.
Proof?
I unfortuantely can't provide you with an exact number...
But, again, not all those people are terrorist.
Sure, anyone COULD be a terrorist, but MOST of the terrorists are Arab Muslims. You can be all like "McVeigh", or "the IRA", and you'd be right that yes, they were terrorists, but they were anomalies, not the rule.
Most is too broad... and really, irrelevant. As in... anyone can be a terrorist. Point agrred upon.
That kind of cultural relativism disgusts me, and is disproven by the fact that there ARE Arab Muslims who support my point of view...
And those who don't and are not terrorist. Again, you are not using fact, and playing with your opinion, which isnt always right.
Even with your absurd standard, which takes away the ability to condemn a people for engaging in involuntary female circumcisiion, murder of rape victims, and the complete lack of women's rights, if any Arab Muslim shares my views...
And again, there are those who live it, and are accustomed to it, and even accept it, or prefer it. Even those woman you speak of. Custom is something very powerful, which you are proof of, speaking very much from an american point of view.
they're validated, because someone who grew up Arab and DOES understand thinks the same way.
Again, not always true. Can go either way... Subjective.
"Hey, Achmed, strap this bomb to yourself and go run into that group of kids".
Not all terrorists are suicidal... plus, its effective, isnt it.
Anyway, myself, am against terrorism and such things. I am only trying to point out how very narrow your view has become. And that Bush is going about it all the wrong way. I am not trying to condone any extreme act, I too felt the sorrow of 9/11 and such... I am just stating that that is fact, and not that that is opinion.
I dont mean to upset you (if I am) or anything of the sort, I am just expressing that of an objective view. And I tend to rebuttle...
I am up north in univeristy, but from down south near whitby.
Hockey is awesome now, I love all the goals, quick pace... one after another. I feel bad for goalies though. lol.
Is Bonus still around here?
And how long ago was I kicked? : (
At 10/20/05 11:46 PM, MALforPresident wrote: what i'm referring to is that the people in my highschool havn't grown out of that yet, and its really kind of stupid and annoying.
Oh, I see. Ya, that is rediculous.
i'm not saying i'm anti-drinking. i'm just saying i'm not much of one to just go out and get piss drunk as a way to "rebel" or something.
True, I agree. I guess it is just different where I grew up.
sure i get wasted off my ass from time to time, dont get me wrong, but its not something i concider a must for fun
Oh no, not at all. Sorry I misunderstood. I understand what you mean now.
At 10/20/05 11:47 PM, Pure_LionHeart wrote: In conclusion:
Wine = Great.
Yes! Red.
Beer = Not Good.
Corona and Lime.
Rum = Horrific No Matter What The Combination!
I like my whisky... which is a Rye, I beleive.
At 10/20/05 11:50 PM, SireWolf wrote: paul martin is not corrupt but he is a fat asses lyiar!
Is that in some way corrupt? corrupt necessarily doesnt have to be by another or external force, it can be internal.
At 10/20/05 11:50 PM, Myst_Williams wrote: and they have a political system that's 1400 years out of date. That's barbaric, my friend.
You do relaize the stonage age was 45000 - 1500 BC (that is if you include Neolithic era, so I was being nice - otheriwse 8000)... so you are way fucking off. Plus, the system, aged or not, doesnt make a society barbaric, because to them, it is right, and it is suited... just because we are more advanced does not make us better, anymore well off, or somehow able to judge them and their place, or system.
At 10/20/05 11:43 PM, DMXRoid wrote: But that's just my little dream.
That would be terrorism itself, wouldnt it? All forms of funding towards killing others...
Huh? We have Hussein, and his trial has started.
Oh, I know... I think Nov 12, maybe 15 is the next date.
It'll be a great testament to the Iraqi people when they convict and hang that genocidal son of a bitch. And Saddam WAS a friend to terrorists...,
Well, that is an american perspective, o, sorry, western perspective... whether it all fact, neither of us can say, but it doesnt make a terrorist, just a fucking lunatic. I am not trying to sympathize for the bastard, I am just trying to open the view to make it understandable, whereas Bush himself is acting like a terrorist...
We've killed more than 10,000 terrorists. Way more than that.
Proof?
1.) You're right, there are non-Arab Muslims who become terrorists as well, like Pakistanis and such.
Um, americans... canadians, brits... chinese. Terrorist is a term coined not just for religious extermist, but anyobdy of mass killing for a cause, purpose... or not at all... even hired.
2.) No, not all Arabs are terrorists, but they're more likely to be terrorists than anyone else, and an even higher percentage are terrorist sympathizers. We weren't hallucenating when we saw them celebrating on 9/11.
Maybe you should have been born an Arab to understand.
3.) They _are_ barbarians. For the most part, they live in caves and use technology that they've stolen from the same people they want to destroy. Their tactics are barbaric, they have no sense of military strategy, and they have a political system that's 1400 years out of date. That's barbaric, my friend.
No sens eof military strategy... like, come on man, you're curdling crap now.
At 10/20/05 11:40 PM, FAB0L0US wrote: What part of you pay for it in taxes is hard to understand? Its not free.
I know, I am the one who said taxes, but it is still coined free healthcare because you don't pay twice... aka taxes and at the door.
You mean smart by totally destroying the Qu'rans message and disregarding everything a Muslim should be respecting?
Not your place to say, as its a different sect of muslim. And I never said smart, I said intelligent. Two different things. They are stupid and neurotic... insane... fo the things they do, but intelligent to pull it off, which makes calling them barbaric incorrect is all.
They are barbarians who have been manipulated, much like how Christians were during the Crusades.
That is also a false statement... for the close minded I suppose. And I am not even Christian.
At 10/20/05 11:39 PM, TheBoneThug wrote: I would like to join. Infact I do stories on my website. heres the section
I was hoping you would come around sooner or later. Welcome man.
Not to interupt, but, you guys dont really drink then?
I think you guys are going around some of the details in a pre-teen way though. The whole "cool" business... I don't really think that is what drinking is about once you pass grade 10. It becomes social, fun, entertainment, excitement, et cetera.
I respect that you dont drink though. Some wine could thin your blood though... a little alchohol is actual good for you if you don't f up your liver. : )
At 10/20/05 11:17 PM, DMXRoid wrote: Too bad that's not the government's job.
Wow, um, no one said that that is what the money should have been used for. I was giving context to the amount. How about free healthcare? Would that make you happy... they could have done that.
And too bad that, if that is how we spent hte money, there'd be a lot more crazy, barbaric Arab terrorists rolling around. A dead terrorist is worth a couple hundred thousand a pop, no?
And um, ya... so hussain... not a terrosit... nuclear wepons... non existence... and you said cpl hundred grand a pop... um... ya, they havnt caught enough to justify that amount either.
And dont stereotype... not all terrosts ar Arab, and not all Arabs are terroorists... plus, no one said they are barbaric. They seemed pretty intelligent and prepared to me.
At 10/20/05 10:45 PM, FBIpolux wrote: I've just learned that an Admin had deleted the thread. Well, that's what DarkArchon thinks. I'm going to talk about that with Sanjay, and if he don't want to create a thread in the General section for me, I will post everything here. But it mostly belongs to the General section, in my opinion.
Certainly. I dont see how they can argue that it doesnt belong there. You arn't 'officially' a part of this club, or at least you never claimed it, so therefore it wouldn't belong i nthis club without you joining first, and they cant force you to joi nthe club... thus, your only other option is the general section... which is for 'general' use... like those, not a part of a writing club to post writing in. ; )
At 10/20/05 11:01 PM, MALforPresident wrote: in politics forum, all the time. in the regs lounge, its just some fun and games and inteligent conversations amung users, its made to kind of get away from the idiots of general but at the same time get away from politics and religion
I've already looked around. : )
i thought your "jokes' were like sarcasm. but yes, i see now. sorry. misinterpretation. lo siento.
Bit of everything I guess. I kind of jumped around.
some people just apply it to me because i act the way i do.
Ya, exactly. It is commonly excepted a certain way now. Whereas no one truly uses the word correctly all the time. Its like the word ignorant... no one ever uses that word in the right context... (a peeve of mine... lol).
in reality, i'm probably one of the most mature individuals i know, i'm very capable of advanced abstract thought that many of my peers can't begin to comprehend.
I wouldnt doubt it. Sometimes I have better discussions with my TAs then I do my peers. Then my buddies laugh at me and we all go get drunk. Haha, good times. : )
the last part made more sense then the cigarettes, but yeah.
Well the cigarettes is just referring to that fact that your mind can comprehend its wrong, and you know your responcibility to yourself, but smoke it anyway for no rational reason. Lack of rationalism is a form of immaturity at times - in this case, of course there are other cases whens its not... like if you were on a S.W.A.T team and were making a split second decision (I am using a lot of obscure references today, i must be tired).
when i do immature things i'm just doing it for fun because frankly, its way more fun then not!. and at the same time i'm a pretty reasonable adult
I am the same way. I exactly what you are saying. Most of the time I am just out to have fun, party, drink, relax, and whatever, but a lot of my freinds can't keep up with me sometimes, and I will catch myself going on a literary, maybe even scholarly splurge. They are used to it though, so they just roll their eyes at me now. lol.
that i can understand, people going "omg, today...." and frankly, if i wanted to know about your day to day life i'd read your livejournal or some shit like that.
Exactly.
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