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At 9/5/14 07:56 PM, Ceevro wrote: Tell ya what, since you're promising paid projects, and seem confident of success, how's this offer: You teach me your course, and I'll give you 30% of what I make from my music for the duration of the course.

as I mentioned previously, I'm not an agent ;)

At 9/5/14 03:13 AM, samulis wrote:

Not another one of these "I'll make u rich and successful" threads... >_<

lol it's not

If you still want to charge money for this stuff, then I suggest you bring your "work" elsewhere, and study your audience first next time! Maybe you should send personalized e-mails to 500 prospective "students" you find on Soundcloud or bandcamp something. Even on there, most people give feedback completely free.

great tip thanks. I feel as if there's an air of resentment about the fact that I'm choosing to charge a small fee here. I'm just testing at the moment, so the fee is very small. I'm just looking for people who are committed and who'll take the course through the whole way.

At 9/5/14 12:32 AM, ZipZipper wrote:

So...yeah oops. Take some time to know the community before professing you have the powers to help the community.

"oops" indeed. I like your meme by the way. Oh and your pun there - you're a witty guy.

Anway what I'm offering here is one to one guidance for musicians who are a few steps behind myself along their journey. Getting your first paid project is very different from getting your 20th - breaking in can be tough, and I've recently done it myself, so I'm up for helping others.

At 9/4/14 07:23 PM, LunyAlex wrote: Well, at least your music is better than most people claiming to share their invaluable knowledge on here.
Good design on that website of yours, too.

Thanks for the kind words!

More clients under Clients will definitely help get more interested in the future.

they'll be up soon :)

Good luck.

At 9/4/14 06:10 PM, Ryuno074 wrote: Hey there, not part of the demographic you're targeting with this, but I have a tip: not much comes up regarding your name or your studio, and your site only lists two clients. It might be in your best interest to list the projects you've been working on.

Hi!

Thanks for the advice, but the projects I'm working on are ongoing, and unfortunately quite often before a company even considers hiring you they've already got you to sign a non-disclosure agreement (NDA).

This prevents you from talking about the project, and quite often it means you can't mention it. I understand I'm not exactly well known yet, but as I've said before I know how to get paid projects. This is another reason why I'm 'beta testing' my methods. - I'm pretty sure a lot of amateur composers could benefit from them.

cheers

At 9/4/14 04:06 PM, MetalRenard wrote: I'd be interested in knowing a bit more about you and your journey, if you don't mind sharing. If it bothers you to do it publicly you can send me a PM like you said in your first post. :)

sure yea I'll tell you here :)

I've been composing for over 10 years, and I got a degree in music technology here in the UK. When I left university I found that it wasn't going to be easy to get work as a composer - no jobs are advertised, there's loads of competition etc. I did have a few single song contracts signed to dance music labels, but nothing substantial.

After working in a bar for 2 years, I decided that I couldn't work in a boring job - it was just killing me lol. When you have a crappy day job and you're surrounded by people who aren't ambitious it can be pretty soul destroying.

So I decided to focus all of my efforts into becoming a composer.

I did loads of research and stuff on how people who were doing what I wanted to do, full time. I got began basically molding myself into a desirable composer who has a good business sense also - and this process was fun! I learned what kind of perspective you need to have to make this work, I learned about the business, and how to network etc.

Then once I felt ready I started contacting clients. I really went all out - I contacted around 500 companies, and sent each on a personalized email to the person who was responsible to hiring composers.

After a bit of persistence I got my first couple of contracts composing for interactive media I then quit my job, and now I'm pretty much doing it full time.

so not I know how to find paid work - I'm definitely not the most experienced person out there, (I've only recently become a professional) but I'm willing to share my knowledge, and I'd love to be able to help others get there.

I hope I've explained myself well!

You can check out my music production company here:

http://www.undercurrentaudio.co.uk/

At 9/4/14 03:38 PM, headphoamz wrote:

It was actually when I was first starting out a couple years ago, and it centered around getting work in game audio, from a professor who, at the time, I considered to be a veteran of the industry. He didn't even know how to work Adobe freakin' Audition and it was embarrassing for all involved.

lol that must've been embarrassing! Well I can assure you my adobe audition skills are top notch ahaha ;)

I'll agree to that. Having a mentor is a wonderful thing, but I've never had a mentor who asked me to pay them. The only person I pay to give me business advice is an agent. Maybe you're offering to be that person, so I wish you luck in your endeavors here. :)

well I'm not an agent unfortunately! I actually find that when I'm contacting clients and looking for work, they like a personal touch, so having an agent isn't necessarily the best way to go about it.

The reason I'm charging is because of all the content I'm providing, and because I'm taking on several students. The search for work can be quite daunting because some people don't know where to look, who to ask, how to approach people etc. I'm offering a package with a lot of guidance, 3 ebooks of information and email support to help people along the way. Also by asking people to pay for something, I feel like they make a commitment and are generally take the course more seriously.

I can understand where you're coming from though :)

At 9/4/14 03:23 PM, headphoamz wrote:
I've tried "courses" like this. Anyone with an internet connection and the willpower can find a music job. Knowledge of the business is okay, but persistence, passion, and diplomacy will get you wherever you want to be.

that's awesome, what course did you try? Did it not help you at all? I'd love to hear more about it. One thing that you forgot to mention was that having guidance when you're trying to achieve something great can be invaluable ;)

Hi everyone!

I've recently been getting quite consistent paid work as a composer, so I consider myself to be a professional. I compose music for interactive media (mobile and pc games, and other software).

I've decided to detail the methods I've used to successfully find work, and put them into a course. I'm also guiding my 'students' along the way with one 2 one email support. So I'll be kind of mentoring you, and showing you where to direct your efforts.

I've got some awesome techniques that are included in the course. For example

- how to find the relevant people in each company who are likely to be hiring composers, so you don't waste your time talking to the wrong people.

- how to work out a justified rate to charge for your services as a composer

- how to make your portfolio irresistible (I can give you this section for free if you send me a pm)

- networking tips to help you connect with helpful people, learn from them and find work

- how to ensure you've got all the necessary skills to begin the search for paid work

...and much more!

I'll also offer you critique on your music if you like, so you'll be maximizing your chances of getting hired.

I can send you details of my music production company and who I am via personal message. We can have a chat on skype or via email, or even on here if you like - and you can decide if my course will be right for you. It's currently in 'beta', so the sign up fee is very cheap.

Send me a message or comment, and I'll help you find your first paid project!