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At 9/30/14 12:39 AM, AtlasTheGaurdian wrote: I honestly can't tell if this thread is a joke

I'm hoping it is

I joke about way worse shit then the holocaust on a daily basis, and honestly if "holocaust denial" became a legit law I think id lose my shit laughing and post it everywhere

i wanted to delete my post.....

these two videos concern deepak chopra and his theory and his influence on others and how lady gaga and oprah feel he is a positive influence on people the other clip is richard dawkins interviewing chopra. this is in reference to gagas views on quantum mechanics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-FaXD_igv4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLVyv7Zqlx4

At 9/29/14 11:00 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 9/29/14 10:50 PM, mrexcellent2190 wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial#France

what's your point?

just posting this for general information

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial#France

At 9/29/14 07:54 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 9/29/14 07:46 PM, mrexcellent2190 wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_Industry

If you're going to post a relevant link would you mind explaining why it is relevant?
What part of that Wikipedia page are you highlighting?

basically the whole thing i know thats a broad and vauge statement but ill post a video link too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDe65-nF3FQ

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_Industry

fish for me

At 9/29/14 05:54 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 9/29/14 05:50 PM, mrexcellent2190 wrote: Also claiming that other holocausts happened besides the nazi plan for the final solution are forms of holocaust denial

Please explain the rationale behind this statement. Because it is completely wrong.

i read some where that its considered antisemitic to claim that other holocausts were more severe in that larger amounts of people died. or that for example the focus of the extermination of prisioners in ww2 if too much on jews when many eastern europeans died in ukraine russia and poland

it should also be noted that claiming that the nazi holocaust tends to revolve around the 6million jews and not the other people that died. Also claiming that other holocausts happened besides the nazi plan for the final solution are forms of holocaust denial

At 9/28/14 03:59 PM, Satan wrote:

At 9/28/14 03:22 PM, mrexcellent2190 wrote:

At 9/28/14 02:40 PM, Satan wrote: Well, this thread sure as shit isn't bait.

thats bullshit accusing me of promoting antisemitism on this forum this was a topic about whether or not holocaust denial should be legal or not not about hating on jews

0/10, please try harder next time, OP.

yeah, I'm here to promote anti-zionist sentiments and while were at it why doesn't everybody go buy a copy of the protocols of zion.... or mien kamp

At 9/28/14 02:40 PM, Satan wrote: Well, this thread sure as shit isn't bait.

thats bullshit accusing me of promoting antisemitism on this forum this was a topic about whether or not holocaust denial should be legal or not not about hating on jews

In 1995, Rudolf was sentenced to 14 months in prison by the district court of Stuttgart because of the "Rudolf Report", as Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany. Rudolf avoided prison by fleeing to Spain, England and finally to the United States. There, he applied for political asylum, but his request was denied in 2006.

Meanwhile, criminal investigations continued in Germany. In August 2004, the district court of Mannheim distrained a bank account in an attempt to confiscate 55% of Rudolf's business turnover from the years 2001-2004 (some €214,000; but at that time the account contained only some €5,000). Rudolf and his associates had earned this money by selling publications which are banned in Germany, although Rudolf's business was located in the UK and the US, where this activity was and is legal.

On September 11, 2004, Rudolf married a US citizen and subsequently had a child. His first marriage was to a German national with whom he had two children. His requests for asylum or at least withholding from removal were turned down in November 2004 of that year on the basis that his application had no merits and was indeed "frivolous." Rudolf appealed against this ruling, and as a result of this the US Federal Court in Atlanta denied in early 2006 that his application was frivolous, yet it upheld that it had no merit. While Rudolf's asylum case was still pending, he was arrested on October 19, 2005, seconds after his marriage had been certified as genuine and valid. The Immigration Services stated that Rudolf did not have a right to file an application to remain with his family. On November 14, 2005, Rudolf was deported to Germany where he was wanted for inciting racial hatred.[3] On arrival there he was arrested by police authorities and transferred first to a prison in Rottenburg, then to one in Stuttgart in Baden-Württemberg. On March 15, 2007, the Mannheim District Court sentenced Rudolf to two years and six months in prison for inciting hatred, disparaging the dead, and libel. Rudolf as well as the prosecution accepted the verdict. Rudolf's "Lectures on the Holocaust" were confiscated and ordered to be destroyed, that is to say, burned in waste incinerators under police supervision. The prosecution's initial request to confiscate €214,000 was reduced to €21,000, the total turnover from sales of the former book.[4] He was released from German prison, July 5, 2009 and now lives in the US with his wife and daughter.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germar_Rudolf

german holocaust denier legal repercussions

At 9/28/14 12:44 PM, Greasegoat wrote: No. You should be able to say whatever you want.

What if a german denied his ancestors involvement in the holocaust? By the way, I'm not German

just yes or no

hate speech eu
http://www.legal-project.org/issues/european-hate-speech-laws

norman finklestein university of waterloo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjIe0RxXmAs

african american nazi cab driver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dbfXp8_qjo&feature=youtu.be

At 9/28/14 12:10 AM, PyroGreg wrote: You mean like:
"I don't believe in the holocaust"
"You're under arrest pal"

yes and the bill also does that with feminism and minority oppression etc it considers the public discussion or refutation of these events an incitement of violence punishable as aggravated crimes of varying degree

the link i posted describes how the eu will stop all speech not just hate speech basically anybody that questions the educational system

hey guys tell me what you think of this piece of legislation . And whether you like it or not ? yes no? again just yes no. This outlaws holocaust denial and many other things in the eu what do you think? Effective or ineffective?

http://www.avoiceformen.com/suggested-reading/eu-to-ban-anti-feminist-speech/

At 9/27/14 11:13 PM, Slint wrote: Are you a jew?

no what does that have to do with anything ? as far as the theory that holocaust denial leads to other forms of hate your proving them right bro at least in my opinion idc about it being illegal either way but don't hate on ppl. individuals should have the right to say whatever this is jus a poll I'm doing to pass time

this really shouldn't be complicated.... just talk to her ask her out

simple yes or no

also, Ive noticed that most undergrads go into liberal arts...jus saying

my professors at community college told me not to take out huge loans. they told me their horror stories. my math prof said he had 200k in loans from his poltical science major and had to return for a math pdh. My sociology teacher kept complaining about how the economy in america sucked abed how china and japan were better. My world religions prof told me very similar things and that america and the west would fall behind soon. Many of my professors as a whole said that college was truing into a for profit industry. My math professor told me that the education system is very broken and that math science teachers make considerably more that arts and that schools look for any excuse to kick students out because its profitable as they will still have to pay the loans. He was an actuary on the side to repay his loans. He also told me that student loan officers will give anybody that qualifies a loan they don't care if you succeed in life or not. HIS WORD NOT MINE. Additionaly, there are 1trillion dollars worth of college loans floating around what is going to happen to that debt how will it be repaid?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dbfXp8_qjo

ONE THING I DONT LIKE ABOUT COLLEGE IS THERE IS LIMITED DISUSSION AND INTELECCTUAL CENSORSHIP

THIS YEAR 2014 THE UNITED STATES HAS SEEN ITS HIGHEST COLLEGE ENROLLEMENT IN ITS HISTORY AND STUDENT LOAN DEBT SURPASSES CREDIT CARD DEBT. i would also like to point out that many mdonalds managers make quite a bit. So how do you define a high salary an investment banker, cfo , rapper?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx4poQw1mZo

213. Because of their need for rebellion and for membership in a
movement, leftists or persons of similar psychological type are often
unattracted to a rebellious or activist movement whose goals and
membership are not initially leftist. The resulting influx of leftish
types can easily turn a non-leftist movement into a leftist one, so
that leftist goals replace or distort the original goals of the
movement.

214. To avoid this, a movement that exalts nature and opposes
technology must take a resolutely anti-leftist stance and must avoid
all collaboration with leftists. Leftism is in the long run
inconsistent with wild nature, with human freedom and with the
elimination of modern technology. Leftism is collectivist; it seeks to
bind together the entire world (both nature and the human race) into a
unified whole. But this implies management of nature and of human life
by organized society, and it requires advanced technology. You can't
have a united world without rapid transportation and communication,
you can't make all people love one another without sophisticated
psychological techniques, you can't have a "planned society" without
the necessary technological base. Above all, leftism is driven by the
need for power, and the leftist seeks power on a collective basis,
through identification with a mass movement or an organization.
Leftism is unlikely ever to give up technology, because technology is
too valuable a source of collective power.
"unabomber"
born with iq of 165 attended harvard and became berkleys youngest prof at 21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18p23-mE4e0

if a woman hits a man its fine. If the opposite happens were on aslippery slope to afghanistan