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Response to: Fiscal Cliff talks Round 3 Posted December 1st, 2012 in Politics

At 11/30/12 10:06 PM, Feoric wrote:
At 11/30/12 09:51 PM, Iron-Hampster wrote: one side will cave. This is really a decision of forcing Americans to pay off the credit card that the government is maxing out against their will, and putting even more money on the credit card first. lose lose.
We don't have a credit card. We can print our own money.

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AH , yes ...,but a HUGE PART OF THE PROBLEM

IS that you do not print yer own money !

You allow a privately owned & controled for profit company to print your money, loan it to you at interest !

THat's the scam dud....that's the why your own government cannot actually be in control, someone outside your government controls your money supply !

Response to: Rather be under an evil governmment Posted December 1st, 2012 in Politics

At 11/30/12 11:44 AM, theburningliberal wrote:
At 11/23/12 10:37 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
Also US is a Republic just like China.
Vast difference in US system of government and the Chinese system of government.

An illussion is still an illussion even if you don't realise it .

Get your political systems straight.

When your system consists of an elected body bought & paid for by the controlers big business/Cartel (aka those in power) , that doesn't differ much from the chinese system where those in power, pick & choose their successors !

Never forget that any serving government HATES anyone within the system , who attempts to operate like they do .... As the largest criminal organization in the country, they hate the thought of competition !

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted December 1st, 2012 in Politics

At 12/1/12 12:36 AM, RydiaLockheart wrote: My husband finally got his new car

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Congrats to you & yer hub unit on the new car

(what no photo ???)

I am waiting for the hobbit to be released locally ... really hopin' they didn't screw it up with a made up bullshit hollywood love interest ! ! ! !
IF they did mess it up , I'm not only not buying it, I'm burning my LOTR dvd's for the heat it will give me in my woodstove ! The constant reference to Aragorn's so called love interest through that trilogy, was a disappointment to say the least !

Response to: Gold Posted December 1st, 2012 in Politics

At 11/30/12 08:57 PM, Feoric wrote: The numbers are right there, buddy.

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You have to have 'correct' numbers to do your calculations or the answer no matter what you do.... will be wrong !
http://911review.com/motive/gold.html

As per the above story it is possible the numbers have been artificially increased, by the 200 million in Bank of Nova Scotia Gold being the same gold as held by the Commex .

Then there is the confusion of when the gold was valued, was it at the time of collapse dollars or the higher price when it was found ?

Response to: Should Quran be banned? Posted November 30th, 2012 in Politics

At 11/21/12 12:46 AM, Camarohusky wrote: A beautiful work of art that is less violent than the Christian Bibles?

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Someone much mopre poetic than I ...said "beauty is int he eye of the beholder, & nothing that preaches subjugation, oppression & loss of human rights is by even the broadest discription possible is 'beautiful' In My Opinion.

IF god truely is all powerful & the creatror of all, then it doesn't need to subjugate us & treat us like garbage, to be beholding to a group of masters running our lives under the title of Priest/mullah or whatever else they want to call themselves & they should have to work just as everyone else does, instead of hanging out living off the tithes paid to the church
Lets not forget Zakat is a "pillor" of Islam

As well as sadaqat .... & you give it to the collectors...they'll take care of the poor, after the mullahs are well taken care of course , never forget that ! ~;p

Response to: Spain is different... Posted November 29th, 2012 in Politics

At 11/29/12 11:26 AM, Korriken wrote:
-If your rich, and have good ties with the government, you can get away with ANYTHING. Yes, even murder.
Worked well for Bernie Madoff.

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WORKED GREAT FOR ENRON !
Works perfectly for the Fed !
THen there's the Gold & Silver suppressionof the markets being dopne presently by JP Morgan shorting the Silver ...sorry the paper silver market.

Then there was the chess move with Leman Brothers, let us not for get the completely illegal Libor scandal ....Billions stolen , no one in prison ...but a couple of the top dogs have 'stepped down' ...you imagine if it was you or I ...we'd be in a prison so fast we'd think star trek beaming was actually happening to us !

Bernie Madoff was stealing peanuts & petty thieves really piss off the professional crooks ... like those in the Banking Cartel along with their lap dogs the politicians !

But lets us just ignore that ...smile & wave everyone... everything is fine, trust yer government, they have nothing but the best intentions for you, if they didn't care for you . Do you believe for 1 second they'd be arming the homeland security with over a BILLION hollow point rounds ? (everyone knows hollow points are the best for "target practice - nod ,nod -wink ,wink"
Changing the laws to allow incarceration without trial, allow the murder...sorry the execution without trial of anyone that is labeled a threat, with or with out proof...after all why do you need proof when that little niggling problem has been removed by yer Presidente !

Fools !
Response to: Israel and Palestine? Posted November 28th, 2012 in Politics

At 11/28/12 12:21 PM, Jmayer20 wrote: It is clear the primary reason for this conflict is religion. That's why I say we should just stay out of it and let the savages kill each other.

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For my entire life & much longer than that from what I read, those people have been killing each other.

I'm personally at a point where I really don't give a fuck about any of them any more ...I feel bad when i hear children are being killed in this attack or that bombing .

But you know once it used to grab my attention, I used to pay attention to it ...now I'm pretty much in agreement with the above statement.

Just let us leave them alone over there & let them kill each other off.

THe way i see it now, it becomes a win eventually for the rest of the world.
They either all kill each other.
One side prevails & wipes the other out.
OR
WHat I believe would happen, is they kill so many of each other there won't be enough of them left & enough left of the place for them to be able to continue.
I mean why even bother blowing up something that's already been blow up 5, 10, 15 times ?
Once they reduce the place to rubble & there are very few people left, that should take care of it. THe rest of the world needs to back away from these retarded people & leave them to destroy themselves !
By the way I call them retarded, because there really isn't any other description that fits anyone who does the exact same thing over & over & over & over (for more than 80 years) & expects a different result, except insanity !
Seeing as insanity isn't curable, lets do the worlds Gene Pool a favor & step away & let them go at 'er !

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted November 27th, 2012 in Politics

At 11/27/12 02:00 AM, JudgeDredd wrote: *watches Mt Doom erupting*

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At least that would be WARM !
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Its gotten damn f'in cold here lately ...has gone from +teens to sub zero, literally over night.

Not that freezing cold is unexpected in Canada, but its been mild right up until this past weekend & its been like someone flipped a switch & shut the damn furnace off !

Although , its this time of year that makes all the loading & stacking of wood worthwhile ...its freezing outside, my woodstoves pushing out the BTU's & I do love that ~:)

Response to: SNOW!!! Posted November 27th, 2012 in General

At 11/27/12 10:27 AM, Cordyceps wrote: Northern Canada - We've had snow since October. Get with the times bro.

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Eastern Canada here , we had a few flakes the other day , nothing accumulated

IT has been below 32 degrees at night here recently , so its just a matter of time.

Damn that's depressing to think about ! ! ! ! !

Response to: Communism, Capitalism, Socialism Posted November 23rd, 2012 in Politics

At 11/23/12 02:30 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: I can hold a very specific notion of Fascism in my head but it will likely find itself at odds with what other people imagine when they throw the word about carelessly.

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Facism doesn't mean you have Hitler or as in history in 30's Italy ...Mussolini's facist government.

That is what many people get confused by, they believe you have to be ruled by a dictator ... when that doesn't necessarily have to be the case.

THe US has an elected Government , yet the majority of those elected people get money from the same large Corporate companies, Companies that are actively lobbying those same elected officials to make & or change rules to suit the Corporate profit line.

That conflict of interest is part of the reason the USA is in the financial mess its in, WHen a Cartel like the Fed Central Banking system, controls your money supply , they are in control of your country. You can deny it.
You can scream & cry & rant and rail , that it has "appointed government officials Blah, blah, blah, that doesn't change that an outside entity controled by unelected elite are in control & so politicians, who's campaigns are funded by these people, who's access to money is controled by these people are protecting themselves & the elites wishes over & above the needs & wants of the citizens of the country.

The increasing size of your policing agencies, the spread of warrentless searches, arrest powers without charege, the Presidents ability to label anyone a terroist & give an order to kill that person without, any charges being laid, or access to a trial, these are all the things Hitlers Gestapo & SS did. Therse are the things Musolini's black shirts did.
You Presidential powers under Bush & they have been expanded under Obama, where US military personel can be used against Americans on American soil, the Presidetial power under the NDAA suspending habeas corpus, they constant disreguard of your Constitution & Bill of rights directly because it limits the power of the "leader" & his ability to take care of his elitest friends !

Response to: Communism, Capitalism, Socialism Posted November 23rd, 2012 in Politics

At 11/23/12 12:43 PM, Jmayer20 wrote: To morefngdbs

Alright tell us what do you think fascism is? Please be very specific. Don't just say something lame like they are bad guys that do bad thing. Have a specific definition.

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Facism , a tolitarian government that glorifys the state/nation, attempts to nationalize every aspect of life over its citizens, it favors & promotes elitism, puts corporate/big business interests not just ahead of, but over its citizens rights !

also more simply - quote "ownership/control of a government by an individual, a small group or other controling private power ." Franlin D Rosevelt

So is that clear enough ?

Response to: Communism, Capitalism, Socialism Posted November 23rd, 2012 in Politics

At 11/22/12 11:21 AM, Jmayer20 wrote: My people seem to think that Communism and Socialism are the same thing. I shall now tell you what the difference is between Communism, Capitalism, and Socialism. I shall explain the difference economically.

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Why did you leave out facism ?

And a quick view on where Amerika is today

http://www.24hgold.com/english/news-gold-silver-on-the-ameri ca-that-was--now-the-united-police-state-of-america.aspx?art icle=4137309296G10020&redirect=false&contributor=Doug+Casey

A facist police state.

Yeah , yeah I know shut up ... no one wants to hear any truth

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted November 23rd, 2012 in Politics

At 11/22/12 09:23 PM, RydiaLockheart wrote: But, I FUCKING TOLD HIM SO!! Not like him or anyone in either of our families ever listens to me anyway.

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Rydia...
They listen to you, they just don't pay you any never mind.

Keep reminding them of their fuck ups , even though they won't admit it they really hate it particularly when yer right

PS love the idea of the idiot tax ~;)

Response to: China's Success is Proof That the Posted November 22nd, 2012 in Politics

At 11/22/12 01:55 AM, Camarohusky wrote: THe only part of China's success that came from Communism was the despotic ability to lie through their teeth about how they're actually doing economically.

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Remove "China" in the above sentence & Insert USA ... Remove "Communism" & insert Facist republic & that sentece works perfectly for description of America in its present reality !

Could do the same thing with Europe & Euro zone ! ! !
& it still WORKS !

L O L

Response to: So what's up with the front page? Posted November 22nd, 2012 in General

At 11/22/12 06:12 AM, ZJ wrote: Be the master of Moo in your own delishious dairy adventure
Still makes me laugh when I see it up on the front page.

THat game obviously is going for those who have never been near a real 'dairy' operation.
the pungent aroma from a dairy farm has to be experienced to be believed !
Delishious .... isn't the discriptive word i'd use in context of a dairy adventrue ~;p
lol

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted November 22nd, 2012 in Politics

At 11/19/12 08:34 PM, RydiaLockheart wrote: I'm back from New Orleans. Had a great time.

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I'd love to have a chance to go back to New Orleans. WHile I was warned about high crime etc. I was there for a week & never had any problem, ate some great food, met nice people toured around went to that famous bagnette coffee shop at the end of the French quarter....sat on the boardwalk of the Mississippi river watching the gunboats patroling, the crackheads puffing a couple benches away. WHile the bustle & flow of people below the rivers level on the streets behind us moved about completely unconcerned with any of it.

Interesting place.

Response to: Do You Support Segregation? Posted November 17th, 2012 in Politics

At 11/16/12 07:04 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote:
At 11/16/12 12:04 PM, morefngdbs wrote: I believe that ANYONE WHO ISN'T of African Descent, should be held apart from anyone else..
I would say most skinheads are idiots and scum. But this kind of argument is just intellectual masturbation.

;;;; How judgemental of you !
I personally don't hang or know any of those people (& if I do they have never mentioned it) so i am not about to judge "ALL" of them simply based on their ideology.

1. Common ancestry does not negate the reality of group differences.

Are you kidding me ?
I believe it absolutely negates their ability to claim they are somehow better than say... you !
You are all from the same root, that is a unifying fact, all of us came from a common group ! !


2. The existence of group differences does not in of itself necessitate that the groups be separated [i.e. segregated], either by law or by voluntary choice, nor does it provide any moral imperative to do so, nor does it rule out the possibility that doing so would be better for some or all of the groups in question.

Yet people attempt to say they are better because they are black or white, etc. Deliberately attempting to muddy the truth with bullshit . Not too mention the really stupid who tout their ficticious omniputent invisible creator, as being somehow much better than someone elses invisible all powerful make believe creator. I don't get why people do that, I have no problem with them putting all kinds of rules & complications in their life...its their life ,complicate the fuck out of it , if that's what makes you happy.
Just fuck off & leave me alone & perferable keep it to yourself.
We are all genetically linked.
That is now an established scientifically proven fact.
Our early ancestors came from Africa & moved across the globe.
People need to embrace the fact that killing someone, who you believe is different from you is actually a fallacy.

But as I mentioned in my first reply. It is the assholes that like to call themselves 'African' Canadians or other distinct geographical areas instead of simply speaking a fact I am a Canadian, or an American a Cuban, Mexican etc. Adding an embelishment like I am a '3 coil steamer' American is just stupidity at work.
That's what I really meant in my post, that people (possibly in ignorance) claiming they are some how special because of their African Ancestory ... it ain't so special dude all of us can claim that !
All of us bleed red !
All of us have a double helix DNa code.
Time for more people to push al the similarities instead of preceived differences.

Response to: Boycott Papa Johns Posted November 16th, 2012 in Politics

If they make a glutten free pizza I'd buy one if I was in their area.

Very few places up here make gluten free pizza !

Response to: Do You Support Segregation? Posted November 16th, 2012 in Politics

At 11/16/12 02:23 AM, Preternatural wrote: The more special interest groups you have, the worse you are represented in a democracy.

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I believe that ANYONE WHO ISN'T of African Descent, should be held apart from anyone else..

I repeat ANYONE WHO I S N ' T of African descent , be held apart !

This is why

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/05/070507-abori gines-dna.html

http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx

So the next time a black person tells me (a white Canadian) they are a african Canadian or an African American ....I'm planning on telling them !

SO AM I !

SO Hey THERE ALL YOU WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND K K K members ...

You are also of African descent ~:)

Now that should piss off a lot of skinheads & I'm personally Lovin' it

Response to: Natural Cures and Medicine Posted November 16th, 2012 in Politics

At 11/16/12 10:51 AM, Camarohusky wrote:
At 11/16/12 07:57 AM, leanlifter1 wrote: What Obesity is not a disease ?
No, it's not.

That doesn't mean it shouldn't be though.

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Perhaps i'm reading this wrong !?!
http://www.cdc.gov/chronicdisease/resources/publications/AAG /obesity.htm

Seems to me , they are saying it is a disease !

Response to: A nice quote I just read. Posted November 14th, 2012 in Politics

At 11/13/12 08:47 PM, Camarohusky wrote:
At 11/13/12 07:00 AM, morefngdbs wrote: & did i mention IT is Rare !
Rarity =/= intrinsic value.

Wood is FAR more instrinsically valuable than gold and you can find the shit everywhere.

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That is exactly the point SOME wood is cheap so cheap we burn it , throw it away, other wood like Gabon Ebony is a completely different story & sells for around $60 here in Nova Scotia a board foot.

Gold is only valuable because people say it is. Otherwise it's about as useful as a treadmill to a parapalegic.

THat exact same thing can be said about a federal reserve note, or any other paper note.
A perfect example a Zimbabwean dollar.
Costs just as much to make as a US Fed Note, is made of the same stuff & is worth exactly the same -nothing- & if the US keeps printing them at the rate they are going it will find itself at its true value before to long & everyone will be in a world of hurt untilt he next easily exchangable currency gets sorted out
BUT IN THE MEANTIME IF THAT HAPPENS ...gold & ilver will once again be a readily accepted means of exchange AKA money.

It doesn't actually have any value.

Yet a ounce of gold in Rome & an ounce of gold today have similar buying power.
Another thing, Gold & Silver are not actually increasing in value.
Paper dollars & other curriencies are DEVALUING, & it is the LOSS OF PURCHASING POWER that is driving up the dollar amount required to buy gold & silver ~;)

Response to: Should Quran be banned? Posted November 14th, 2012 in Politics

At 11/14/12 01:15 PM, LemonCrush wrote:
At 11/14/12 11:43 AM, morefngdbs wrote: Unless IMO all religious text is banned.
Just because people are dumb/gullible doesn't mean things they read should be banned.

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I agree with you, if you reread my first post, I simply said that IF they are going to ban the Koran, then all religious text should be banned.
Not because I believe they should all be banned, It just doesn't make any sense to pick on one work of fiction .
Logically for me, you'd have to throw all of them on the fire .

And I really don't believe in burning books, THe ramblings of Hitler's Mein Kampf , L Ron Hubbard while not a fan, I see no reason others shouldn't have to waste some time attempting to wade throught them !

I jst believe a work of fiction should be properly labeled & available to anyone, if yer too stund to realise the Flying Spagetti Monster is the ultimate power in the cosmos ...that's not my problem ~;0

Response to: Secession of U.S states?! Posted November 14th, 2012 in Politics

WHile this link is a bit off topic , it is a revelant in how it runs against Federal Policy .
This person wants his pay as a politician to be as per the Constitution of the United States.
http://www.24hgold.com/english/news-gold-silver-pay-me-in-go ld-lawmaker-requests-compensation-in-money-that-has-intrinsi c-value-.aspx?article=4127208080G10020&redirect=false&contri butor=Mac+Slavo

This elected Rep, from Montana, quotes the Constitution, his view that continuing to follow the present course will bankrupt the present system, & gives his views on the financial mess That the Federal Government along with the Fed Bank are doing to the USA's Federal Reserve Note .

All of this coming at a time when States are lookin ginto coining their own currencies, lookin gfor ways to help their people when a collapse in the present system comes. Which IMO is a good sign that people are really starting to take notice on how bad things have been allowed to get under the present Federally (Presidentially) controlled system.
A dictator by any other name is still a dictatorship !

Response to: Why do people keep saying move out Posted November 14th, 2012 in Politics

Nothing catches my attention more than when Americans get upset by the use of their right to free speach of other Americans.
Its almost like "we want free speach, but only as long as you don't say anything I disagree with" ...if you do, you are Anti American & should leave the country ...or even better DIE !

I'll never get that ?!?

A perfect example was the Dixie Chicks scandal, where they said they were Anti George Bush .... from the backlash by other Americans that disagreed with them. People said they should be tried for 'Treason' big money ordered DJ's to stop playing their music on their radio stations , there were protests & boycotts etc ...all from a girl(s) expressing her belief & using her supposed "RIGHT" of Free Speach, that George Bush was a liar & a war monger.

Looking back now , we can all see she was right , the Government (George W) was lying, there were no weapons of mass destruction, they had credible evidence that was supressed there were no mass destructive capabilities ....what there was , was a huge oil resource the USA couldn't access, a real threat to the regions stability ...but no threat to us ...so they made one up.

I believe in free speach, but instead of insisting on witch hunts withhtose you disagree with, instead of tellin ghtem to leave their/your country, maybe you should simply rebutt them using your own right to free speach or possibly ise you right not to listen to them & ignore them !

Response to: Natural Cures and Medicine Posted November 14th, 2012 in Politics

At 10/17/12 05:47 PM, Camarohusky wrote: As a person having a terminal illness, I can empathize as to why people fall for this crap.

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As someone who is now dealing with CHF (Congestive Heart Failure) Since being diagnosed in June 2012.
I am on some serious meds, meds that if I stop taking, I will not probably die, I will die.
The prognosis at this time with the drugs, is very positive & I have seen my heart function go from under 20% to 25% at my last check on function & I am due in the new year to be checked again & I know that my function has improved just on how I feel & how much stronger I am, how much more stamina I have etc.

One of the new things I take 2 times a day is a health suppliment, not a drug.
It has recently finished new indepth testing & has been found to be instrumental in rebuilding heart strength.
http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Research/Omega-3-heart-h ealth-evidence-is-strong-says-review

So while a suppliment like this one may not be of any noticable use to those of you with healthy hearts, those of us who are dealing with heart related problems, particularly ones like mine where the heart muscle has been damaged by a viral infection, this can help & until I can get my heart function above 30% I will be considered in danger. SO anything that can help me along I'm going to do... the diet I am on , salt reduction, exercise & my meds
Oh , by the way this suppliment was recommended by the heart specialist I see as being something that can be beneficial & will do no harm. & I need all the help I can get.

Response to: Should Quran be banned? Posted November 14th, 2012 in Politics

At 11/13/12 09:48 PM, LemonCrush wrote: No religious text should be banned.

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Unless IMO all religious text is banned.

But what I believe should be done, is all religious text no matter whether the religious group is still active or defunct ....all of it should be labeled & found in libraries under "Fiction"

Because that's all any of it is, unproven works of often obscure authors & fiction is IMO where it belongs.

Have any of you ever read anything about the beginings of the writing of the Koran ?
What about the bible ?
Both religious texts (which have been rewritten & edited many times in their historys) were not written by Jesus or Mohammed the Prophet, it is a matter of record some of the so called original writings were eaten by a goat for the Koran.... I wonder how that was replaced ?
You know I have an idea on that, men wrote what "THEY WANTED " in their religion & that is what is in all of them , the ideas & wishes of the writers at the time AKA fictional writings about an unprovable construct in order to gain control & riches from the sheeple ....I'm sorry I meant the "faithful"

Response to: A nice quote I just read. Posted November 13th, 2012 in Politics

At 11/12/12 11:29 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Gold, copper, and silver have less productive value than paper money does.

Gold is largely used because it si shiny. It has some superconductive uses, but most of its value is perception.

AARRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNN
WRONG
Rarity ....its value comes from its property to never tarnish, AKA its SHINEY

& did i mention IT is Rare !

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted November 13th, 2012 in Politics

At 11/12/12 09:25 PM, Camarohusky wrote:
At 11/12/12 08:34 PM, morefngdbs wrote: Its going to be interesting to she if she bursts from holding it in next time we pop by mums or my brothers place ........
Good excuse to not bring Mom over for Thanksgiving, or whatever you Canadians celebrate with the family.

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CamaroH , you don't know me very well if you think I'd do that !

I'm planning on having everyone over for Ribs & Buffalo Roast, hopefully within the next 2 weekends (depending on my honey's work schedual.)
WHat with the kid's running around & the bike out in the barn with a thin cover on it LOL .... there's no way if someone goes in there they won't know what it is . Only thing is they won't know for sure ...who's bike it is ~;p

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted November 12th, 2012 in Politics

Now for something completely different .....
My brother showed up at my place this afternoon with one of these .

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcycles/2012models/2012-V ictory-Hammer8Ball.htm

He wants me to store it for him in my place for the winter. He bought it today & he doesn't want his girlfriend or our Mum & Dad to know .... L O L

Seems he's afraid they're gonna freak ( I know they're gonna freak !) especially Mum.

But he's my brother so its no problem ....my ole lady's a bit freaked out ....not so much by the bike, but because she's gotta keep a secret ~;)
Its going to be interesting to she if she bursts from holding it in next time we pop by mums or my brothers place ........

Response to: Why taxation is illegitimate. Posted November 12th, 2012 in Politics

At 11/12/12 08:18 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
At 11/12/12 08:07 PM, morefngdbs wrote:
Hey Proteas, I can't find the right link , but I read a clip where in this country, a past Government & several sincethen ....borrowed money form the Big Canadian Bvanks ...I have no idea why
The Government and Banks are not even using "The Bank of Canada" like they should be

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Which is against our Carter, as I seen in that link.
WHen I find it or one like it as Arnie likes to say "I'll Be Baaaack "