6,779 Forum Posts by "morefngdbs"
At 6/21/08 05:24 AM, WolvenBear wrote: I don't eat sheep. Nor bugs. And I avoid pork unless it's all there is to eat.
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Man am I ever screwed, I love shredded smoked swine flesh.... I absolutely am in Heaven when I eat slow cooked ribs MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMM M in Heaven & everything is right in the world.
I love snails...especially in mushroom caps with a nice havarti or mozza cheese & garlic butter..... chocolate ants & grasshoppers are good too.
And wooley arse , how can you possibly turn down a nice rack of wooley....I mean lamb chops, with some mint jelly , & rice ?
I don't know how this came up in a thread about Gay Marriage, but I'll say it again, I still believe same sex couples should be alowed to marry. Any church that decides it will not condone & marry same sex couples ,should have the right to say they will not do so.
Problem solved for all the different sides, right?
At 6/21/08 07:27 AM, JoS wrote:At 6/21/08 06:21 AM, morefngdbs wrote: This is not the easy , good guy's against the terrorists.Still does not excuse bombing buses and other civilian targets.
It's actually another chapter of shame that has come out of the break up of Victorian British Colonialism.
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I didn't know about the recent civilian attacks.... & I agree with you on it not only being wrong, it's definately a step in the wrong direction for them, if they truely are seeking independence . Attacking civilians ,in my opinion, puts anyone even if they are Canadian Military in the relm of a terrorist .
I have heard of this conflict before & I read up on this on a couple of web pages today & this conflict between the Tamils & the Sinhalese has been going on for longer than I have been alive....and it doesn't look like it can get better, they both seem to totally disrespect each other, and both are responsible for a seemingly total disreguard for one another!
At 6/21/08 06:24 AM, Britkid wrote: So, basically they're fundraising for terrorists? The same terrorists that bombed a police station the other week?
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Would you still say that if those police had recently driven you & your family off their land?
Had raped your sister ?
Beatten & imprisoned you for protesting your inability to join the security forces because you were a Tamil & not Sinhalese?
Ban it, of course. People would be outraged if this was fundraising for Al-Qaeda.
Your comparing apples to coconuts & don't even seem to realise there is a difference !
At 6/19/08 02:31 PM, JoS wrote:At 6/19/08 02:00 PM, aninjaman wrote: Any smart country would outlaw a non-profit that commited civil war and terriost acts.Technically the WTM hasn't committed any acts, they just fund raise on behalf of the Tamil Tigers.
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Has that been proven Jos ?
I just wonder if it's possible, they raise money for the Tamil people, let's not forget people, that there are a group of people who define themselves as Tamilians.
Let us also not forget before a slew of Western Nations stuck their busybody noses & ideals into these people's business there were two distinct nations there on that Island.
The Tamil Kingdom in the North & the Sinhala Kingdom in the South . It was the British (surprise,surprise) who combined the two for "ease" of administration !
When the British left in 1948 they handed over power to the Sinhalese. WhoThen immediately began to attack everything that defined Tamil as a Nation, including the adoption of Sinhala as the only language, instead of English...Tamils had to learn Sinhala or they could not be employed, they are restricted from higher education, recruitment into the military is almost exclusively Sinhalese & they did & continue to this day to carry out human rights abuses against the Tamil people's .
This is not the easy , good guy's against the terrorists.
It's actually another chapter of shame that has come out of the break up of Victorian British Colonialism.
So Jos, if they have not been proven to be actually suppling weapons to the Tamil Tiger's, & are sending money to help the average underprivilaged people in Sri Lanka , It's just another case of Canadian Politicians dropping the ball .
Finally got a day off at the same time as my girlfriend.
We put a new canopy up over our back deck, overlooking the Shubenacadie River.
It's 11 ft 6 inches by 25 ft. All the planters have there transplants & I'm ready for our very brief summer. (usually comes around the 2nd week of July & Lasts all the way to the middle of August.)
Call me a whoossey if you want, but I just couldn't lift that canopy into position by myself .
Ah summer, the time for eating burned meat, tinfoil wrapped vegetables, & cold beer mmmmmmmmmmmmm just lovin' the ides of clod beer on the deck this afternoon ; while being eatin' by the black flies.
Proteas, as far as I'm concerned, camping is a hotel room with NO room service !
8 people in a room is what I envision a 3rd world countries jail cell to be inhabited by ! !
( I personally wouldn't go there either.)
If it was me, I would make sure I had the money for my own damn room ! ! ! ( your going to have to start saving up for the next one man )
Although once word gets out you have your own room, your popularity is going to go way up ! ! ! !
At 6/20/08 09:59 AM, WolvenBear wrote:At 6/20/08 09:41 AM, morefngdbs wrote: I just checked on a couple of religious sites i go to & the Buddhist Religion is not against Gay marriageThere are indeed many Buddhist schools of thought which condemn homosexuality.
This is baed on the fact that Buddha condemned "unlawful sexuality" and had no desire to define what that meant. But the Vinaya mentions homosexuality as a sin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuali ty_and_religion#Buddhism
http://www.buddhanet.net/homosexu.htm
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I checked out you 2 sites Wolven, & the bottom one seems to only be about the leaders of the religion, the monks & nuns are not suppose to deal in any pleasure of the flesh or they could be thrown out of the order, even if it was consenting and no matter if it was same sex or hetro.
The first one also doesn't seem to condone the practice between the average person, they were aware of it but as I read it it didn't seem to be as harsh as the Abrahamic faiths.
I've been to British Columbia, Alberta 3 times, Manitoba twice, I have lost count of how many times I've been to Ontario & Quebec. The same thing applies to Newfoundland (I've been to Labrador twice), New Brunswick & P.E.I., I was born in Cape Breton Island ,Nova Scotia, where I have lived most of my life.
I have been to the High Arctic, I've sailed there on 2 different summers on an St.Lawerence Ice Class oil tanker.
I've been to the U.S.more than 20 times , I have done 6 trips to the Dominican Republic, I've been to Mexico , Jamaica & Hawaii (Yeah ,I know it's part of the U.S. but it's worth mentioning on its own)... Oh , I've also been to France, when I was a teenager in school.
At 6/20/08 11:38 AM, BerryB0X wrote:At 6/19/08 07:18 PM, Nado6 wrote: Global warming is something that Al gore blew it completely out of porportion also polar bears swim well they wouldn't die like in that cartoon in the inconvient truth which was a movie that was terrible and I slept through it when they showed it at my school.This is one of the most retarded things I have ever read. Maybe you shouldn't have slept through the movie and actually watched it...
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Actually , that movie has been proven to be a bunch of out right lies & fabrications, by a Britsh Jouralism show. THe dead polar bears died because they were caught in a storm & drowned...not because they had no where to rest. The missing lake Gore spoke of isn't missing.
You watch a docudrama made by a F*&^%$G Politician & somehow it has to be complete truth, Bloody Hell go shake your head or maybe bang it hard against a sharp corner somewhere , it will provide you with more insight that's going around than that made up piece of crap Gore starred in.
At least then you would know something about global warming.
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It's obvious that you don't.
The proof of Global warming & cooling cycles has been proven through out the history of this planet. Just because it's getting warmer in some places, it is getting wetter in some other places as well as drier like in the South Western U.S. which if you take the time to go check it out is coming out of a period of being very wet for where that is .
Even around here we had our worst winter in 6 years with more snow & colder temperatures...why ? it's easy, CLIMATE CHANGE not global warming !
Secondly while I'm not trying to say that Mankind hasn't had an effect of how much Carbon Dioxide is in the atmosphere , the true effects and how plants especially are affected , well check out this link.
At 6/20/08 01:22 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: There are no perfect solutions. They only appear perfect because people are trying to sell them to you.
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That's pretty much the way it is Funk.
I mentioned it somewhere here today, where I read in this mornings newspaper, that Obama is now backtracking on his promise to re-write the NAFTA treaty. Man's not even elected yet & he's already backing off of promises that he made just to get him nominated to run for President !
They are all useless & weak , they're really just figureheads for the people who truely are the power in this world... the people who control the MONEY !
No matter what political Party you support with your vote, all they really care about is themselves & their Party Cronies .
At 6/20/08 09:01 AM, WolvenBear wrote:At 6/20/08 05:40 AM, Ravariel wrote:Actually no, Rav. It's not. The case for religious gay marriage is insanely stupid.
It ignores that every major religion has banned gay sex. It also ignores that every other religion has defined marriage as "one man and one woman".
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I just checked on a couple of religious sites i go to & the Buddhist Religion is not against Gay marriage.
Now some of you may not want to allow that Buddhists are part of a 'religion' but since there approximatly 1.5 billion of them on this planet they ,in my mind , have some credibility as an organized religion.
http://10outof10.blogspot.com/2007/04/wi kipedia-on-buddhism-by-country.html
Anything Gore is promoting has to be bullshit.
I love the part in the Newspaper here today where Obama is already backtracking on his promise to rework the NAFTA treaty.
The S.O.B. hasn't even been elected to President & he's already backtracking on promises he's made to get him the nod to run for President in the first place !
LMFAO , yeah he's going to do great things if he's elected...great things for himself & his 'friends' for sure but he's going to happily do fuck-all for the rest of you.
But to be fair, that's going to happen to you no matter who you pick, there now doesn't that make you feel just a little bit better, knowing your screwed no matter what way you turn !
At 6/20/08 05:46 AM, megaman12345 wrote: Ok Newgrounds what do you think about Florida?
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I've been there 3 times, last time was this year in January. I find it odd how a state with around 50 million people in it will not/does not recycle it's glass & plastic bottles. I'm not sure if they recycle cans, but you go anywhere down there & you see empty bottles everywhere. Up here where they pay a couple of cents to you if you bring the containers to a recycler .... you can't find an empty anywhere.
Up here by the way is Canada, & we only have around 35 million people in the whole damn country !
At 6/20/08 12:15 AM, Lindione wrote: What new technology would benefit you the most?
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Anti gravity belts. Rigging at height will become a breeze.
If you could create any technology that fits into the realm of science in one year, which would you pick and why?
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I would devote everything into batteries. Particularly on the capacity of storage, size ,and long life with thousands of recharges being a very important consideration.
Which problems do you think we can and can not solve with technology?
I don't think technology is going to help rid this planet of the problems caused by religious groups.
Although if said extremist religious group was all in one localized area, the technology of nuking them could conceivably take out this plague on mankind ;-)
At 6/20/08 03:02 AM, JackPhantasm wrote: My friend said that his teacher said right when they saw them fall, "there's no way they'd fall like that, ever."
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I work as a rigger & I've seen some shit fall at work , as well as scaffolding systems , truss systems & crane supported sytems collapse, with the engineering analysis and accident reports ,,,it's required learning in rigging classes.
You have a structure that has an unstable mass near the top of it. It cannot just fall off the top of the building & come crashing to the ground...because there is no force pushing it from the side. The main force acting on any structure on this planet which is standing on its base is GRAVITY.
For the building to topple over on one side or the other, the supporting structure on one side NEAR THE BASE OF THE STRUCTURE would have to fail first, then middle support would possibly loose it's supporting capability, that would cause the building to fall over (like a tree notched on one side & cut in from the other)
Otherwise the weight of the upper structure would BECAUSE OF GRAVITY fall down onto the still supported structure below it , causeing an effect called "shock load" & shock load depending on the distance of the drop starts at 3 times the amount of the load (Remember your rigging courses kiddies, a one thousand pound load bumped up or down one inch relays 3 times the weight of the supported object (load) on the supporting structure) & this amount of force goes up depending on the distance of the drop.
I may not know anything about the liquid steel in the WTC 911 disaster, and I can't say with certainty that it was just a terrorist activity, or a gov. plot ; but I do know about shock load & how a structure behaves when supporting members fail !
At 6/20/08 05:49 AM, Ravariel wrote:At 6/19/08 10:44 PM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: Also: If there's one thing thats more annoying than being woken up in the middle of the night, it's being woken up in the middle of the night by your flatmate having sex in the room next door.
I'm unable to tell if your annoyed by the noise they may have been making .
Or the fact he was geting some & you were not !
Better'n being woken by a roommate barfing in the trashcan next to your bed.
...I grow less and less fond of alcohol as my years progress, even though that incident happened many years ago.
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Yep, it's definately the alcohol's fault. Be an absolute travesty to possibly think that your roommate was an fuctard ,who's intelligence level drunk or straight is somewhere near that of my sneakers.
At 6/18/08 01:00 AM, LadyGrace wrote:At 6/17/08 03:04 AM, SEXY-FETUS wrote: It was suggested in a different thread to get rid of marriage as a legal term all together, leaving the only "Marriage" in the country in the hands of religions. Widening the term to civil unions to cover both gay and straight couples.Great idea! I'm sick of everyone talking about the "sanctity of marriage" when it's a government involved institution. I thought there was supposed to be a separation of church and state, therefore how can the government become involved in something so many argue is "religious"? I don't mind gays marrying one another.
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My mom sure does.
She has a real problem with the (her) church possibly going to marry gay's.
I personally believe right along with Lady Graces statements above.
But even though I am not a person who is actively involved with any religious group.
I have to apply the same rules to them, as I would like to see for gays & that means that if the members of a particular religious group... lets pick on the MARTIAN religion today.
IF the MARTIAN Church does not want to allow Gay Marriage, then fine they don't have too, neither do any other religion's group that doesn't want to perform a same sex marriage.
After all fair's, fair If gays wish to marry, I see no problem with that.
IF a particular religious group doesn't want to marry same sex couples in their church, I see no problem with that either.
That may limit the choices for same sex partners to be able to get married, but it still allows civil marriage's , & any religious organization that DOES want to perform a same sex marriage.
After all, why would anyone want to be married by a particular religious group that doesn't want anything to do with you?
At 6/18/08 10:28 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:At 6/18/08 10:21 PM, Grammer wrote:He won't read it unfortunately, posting insults is all he does.At 6/18/08 10:11 PM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: shitAt 6/18/08 10:15 PM, Shaggytheclown17 wrote: more shithttp://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.
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There. Now get educated
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I actuall just went through that link, it had a lot of information that really seems to explain the molten metal that was seen pouring out of the upper windows, could be aluminium, & there is a lot of Aluminium in a planes fuselage, not too mention how much aluminium would be present in an office building.
The hot steel water /hydrogen conversion with the insulating effects of all that debrie on top of the lower level areas where pooled metal was found, was (in my mind) pretty convincing.
First law of THermodynamics allows for increase, or decrease as well as storage of heat. THis explaination is the best i've seen so far .
Nice Link Grammer
At 6/18/08 11:45 PM, stafffighter wrote: I do sets of ten with 350. I know they say sets should only be 8 but my mind works on a base ten system and I'm too old to change that now.
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I am/have been programed by the damn local government to rep's of 8 or 12 or even 24.... You see that's what you get at the local Liquor stores around here.
So If I get a 12 pack (called a 'case' here) I do 12 rep's at 12oz's for each one....but I don't like to chug so my next lift is usually a couple of ounces lighter than the initial lift when I first pop the top. So if you figure 6 drinks to the 12oz bottle. I do 72 Rep's without stopping, except to maybe go have a whizzzzz, where I make room for more Power Lifting, oh yes, body sculpting one pint at a time .
Beer it's not just for breakfast anymore !!!!!
At 6/18/08 06:27 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:At 6/18/08 06:24 PM, jackkniphe wrote:even though most og the sources are biased websites like Infowars.com and prisonplanet that has no crediability?
I've showed the most evidence. Know one sourced any thing, say for one. All I'm getting are statements of truthiness.
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Credibility , B.S. , Terrorists did it the Government did it.... I really don't give a shit about any of that.
I have looked on line, I have seen so called PROOF offered on both sides. I have friends who are members of I.A.T.S.E. local 52, it is the Film workers local in New York City. Some of them arrived on scene before the first tower fell. Some of them were Firefighters as well as union brothers, & 7 of them died. Local 52 Members went to local Movie Equipment houses & came back with Movie house generator trucks, all the usual lighting, electrical cables & lights. They powered that site 24/7 for over 2 months...all volunters from 52.
Nobody has ever anywhere I have seen explained why so much structural steel was found melted in the lowert levels.
No one knows how to melt that type of steel short of a Foundry ( I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm pretty sure an Iron Foundry being moved on site to melt steel would probably have been noticed).
NO plausible reason have l ever seen explains all the melted steel found in the wreckage "esp." the lower levels of the 2 towers. Hell the infared imagery showed these hot spots days later.
I really don't give a rat's ass about who did it... I would just really like to know how that metal melted.
Simple question from me.
How...did all that structural steel melt.
Those of you with the Bullshit answers please Go F*&% yourselves , hopefully you'll enjoy that. But a legitimate answer to this question would be appreciated.
Maybe just maybe if that was answered, figuring out WHY those towers fell could insure it never happens to another highrise anywhere else.
As for the thermite I threw out there, I know that was lame, it won't "stick" to an upright beam, but maybe there is something else, or some other way to do it....remember , it has to be something that can not only get hot enough....it has to be able to sustain that long enough to melt through a massive upright member.(actuall a whole bunch of them !)
At 6/18/08 06:30 PM, stafffighter wrote: I know nothing about sports but I do like having a defined role within a group.
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I'm with Stafff on this as well.
If I had to take an interest....I would like to be the guy in charge of the Gatorade Cooler, the Water (bottled of course) & I guarantee that the beers will be ICE COLD, when the games all done.
At 6/17/08 04:39 PM, Proteas wrote:
So if I go up to a cop and tell them I have 200 dead hookers stacked up like cord wood in my garage, then that's enough to justify my arrest and being charged with 200 counts of 1st degree murder even though there's no evidence to convict me of the crime?
Boy am I glad I don't live in Canada.
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It's not like that here at all Proteas.
We ,just like many other places ,have police that are good , police that are corrupt, & police that "bend' the rules. It is one of the reasons why I like the judge only or the Judge & jury system.
You as an accussed have a choice how you wish to be tried in most cases. If you try your hooker story, you maybe detained while they check into your story, but your not going to just get hit with 200 murder charges...although you might get a 30 day psychiatric assessment.
Police operating guidelines state that you cna only use a firearm to stop death or grievous bodily harm.Since when did civilians go by Police Operating Guidlines?
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We don't.
We have a similar law for using as much force 'reasonable' force is I believe how they phrase it ,to protect yourself & if you have a family in the residence at the time...well more excessive force is maybe not condoned, but is a more readily accepted defense.
At 6/17/08 01:15 AM, Expl0it wrote
Address these points and I will happily refute.
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I'm fairly certain that an animal , since it cannot 'speak' & or communicate in a way that everyone (or at least everyone present) can understand, then it is given that it cannot consent, nor can it consent.
So since it cannot do either, courts find that being unale to consent & consenting to marriage is one of the main questions... doyou take so & so...blah blah blah & do you also take ....blah , blah .
No ability to respond , no marriage certificate for you !
But be happy you can still shack up & close the blinds (PLEASE, PLEASE close the blinds) & you and you kitty cat can do whatever turns your crank.
At 6/16/08 10:15 PM, poxpower wrote: There's dozens of videos and websites dedicated to refuting that stupid conspiracy point by point.
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Yes Pox , and there are dozens & dozens promoting the conspiracy theory.
The only thing I would like to throw int o the mix is, How did so much structural steel MELT.
It wasn't just bent & warped & heat stained from the fires, it actually melted & pooled in the lower levels.
That's the only question I would like a factual answer for.
The only way outside of a steel manufacturing plant that that type of steel can be turned into flowing liquid metal, is by an out side source of heat ie; thermite, or high preasure cutting systems.
Everyone knows that the temperatures required to make that steel flow like a liquid, could not have been caused by the burning contents of the building or by the jet fuel.
So fuck the conspiracy crap, just a simple scientific explaination on how did that steel melt?
here's me thanking you in advance !
At 6/17/08 03:51 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Along with the fact that he had a stroke lead to the final hole two years ago and then we all know what happened.
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No we all do not know ! ! !...tell me, please tell 'Yawwwwwwwwn' what actually happezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz .
At 6/17/08 01:47 PM, JoS wrote: Not every search warrant comes up with a huge haul. Sometimes the cops get an unlucky break and the guy is out of drugs at the moment.
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Actually Jos, all the smart Drug dealers, never have any drugs on hand.
That's what accomplises are for.
That's why there are "organised" gangs/groups of people who build networks of other people, stashes, drop points & pick up areas.
I have a 'little bit' of personal knowledge on how these things are done.
Police officers who have been running long term investigations are spending thousands & thousands of dollars on these investigations & they have to produce arrests to justify their expenditures.
So that is probably at least part of the reason for the 'fishing expedition' of that raid.
They were unable to get any real evidence, or at least any that would hold up in court.
This guy & his friends had been under investigation & it obviously wasn't going anywhere.
This is one of the reason's I believe that these types of Invasion/Search's should be held under a microscope before a warrant is issued.
NO HARD EVIDENCE= NO WARRANT.
I have been raided before. They took me down by surrounding me on my motorcycle in broad daylight. No mistaking it was the cops.
I was ratted out , someone they busted, was told he could get a better deal if he helped the police out... I was named as a dealer in coke & they searched (fuck they trashed ) my home. they took the heads off of my babies dolls, they unrolled all the socks & underwear in the house, they searched the toilets. Tore all the kids closet & room apart (Like I would ever be stupid enough to leave drugs where my baby might get into it) dumped the contents of the canisters in the kitchen into the garbage, dug into my wife's potted plants & dumped dirt etc. right on the floors & carpets...but they didn't open the damn fridge. My wife was sitting right there with the baby & they didn't even open the damn fridge. If they had of they would have discovered all our coke....except it was bottled Coke, bottled by the Coke-a-Cola company. they found nothing because there was nothing there.
I was taken down in the street because of some past dealings with known violent criminals & I had been up on attempted murder charges ,previously( there was no attempt to murder, it was just a fight where some weapons were used).
But still, If they thought this was a really bad guy, they shoulddn't have been in his house like that.
Bad Police work shouldn't mean they can just bust into your residence & destroy your stuff & intimidate & put you & your family in jeopardy.
They fucked up & a cop is dead, it is very unfortunate, but I still believe the Jury acted correctly.
I also hope that these types of raids will come under stricter guidelines so this doesn't happen in the future. Its obvious the police had some kind of evidence or at least a 'Rat' giving them information...it just turned out to be 'bad information'.
At 6/16/08 09:45 PM, Elfer wrote:
On an up note my brother & I are going to try to make our own bio diesel.That's a good idea monetarily, but environmentally it's sketchy.
We have 4 resturants that have green lit us to start taking their used cooking oil.
However, since you're doing it on a personal use scale rather than an industrial scale, and since it's something requiring enough effort that most people would never do it, I'd say it's a pretty decent idea, so long as it's cheaper than the pump prices.
Even if we just use it in our furnaces, we'll take his house ,my house & hopefully Mom & Dad out of the heating oil nightmare....prices are just over a buck a liter for home heatingHas the house already been overhauled for efficiency? There's a lot of fairly cheap ways to prevent heat from escaping, so long as you've got a little capital to make the initial investment.
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His home is new, Mom & Dad's is an older place but with all the newest door & windows, exterior insulation etc.
I have insulated my place, it was a commercial building when I bought it, so the interior walls were unfinished (wyou could see the Post & Beam construction), removed the siding & put more exterior insulation on last year, when my new R2000 vinyl windows were installed.
My brother says that he has a rough estimate of around 40 cents a liter, that's the supplies & heat (you need to heat the mixture), cost for gas to pick up the used oil. Not included in the cost is a space to do it , but I own a large shop & we're going to put an out building up if it is feasible. He pays $1.50 a litre for diesel for his Truck. Since we're going to do it on days off, it means we will be paying ourselves by the savings we make.
The cooking oil is used but it is "free" in the extent that we don't have to pay to take it.
Also there doesn't appear to be any waste that the local liquid recycle depots won't take.
At 6/17/08 09:09 AM, bcdemon wrote: So it's 5 in the morning, my family and I are sleeping. And I here multiple footsteps running up my stairs to were my sleeping family is. Last thing I'm going to do is open my bedroom door and ask who is there and why.
As wrong as killing cops may be,
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I have 2 members of my family who are in the police forces.
I don't think killing cops is right, I do believe shooting intruders in the wee hours who invade your home can be justified.
They raid the house of a "drug dealer" who only has enough stash to get himself stoned for a few hours? Less than a gram of cocaine and a gram of pot is stress relief, not drug trafficking.
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Yeah , to all of us with a bit of knowledge, its nothing . To those with the brain damage that comes from years of believing everything the government tells you about DEADLY BAD DRUGS , a spec of hashish to small to weigh after it's been tested (becaus ethe test destroyed it all) is still DRUG DEALING ! ! ! !
mindless sheep, can't help themselves, the brainwashing has gotten in too deep & the Bleech has done its work .
At 6/16/08 10:16 PM, JoS wrote: Or maybe he didnt register all the guns because he was a fucking drug dealer.
So what, it only proves the point that having all the gun registration in the world will not stop criminals from procuring & using guns.
Also if this so called drug dealer (a gram of coke & a couple of grams of pot do not a big time drug dealer make) ! If this guy was such a player, why is there no charges of trafficing placed against him?
Why didn't the police use a street take down on this guy & then go into his house ?
I'm not takin gthe side of criminals over the police here.
I am saying that police are using tactics & outright fabrications to help them attempt to put so called bad guy's in Jail.
I am completely against police fishing expeditions that take away we the people's right's to illegal search & seizure. I am completely against the state being able to without just cause, invade my home (or your home or anyone else's home) when all they have for real HARD evidence is the possibility there may be drugs etc. there.
Police conduct these type of searches far too often in my opinion, & we are seeing more & more innocent people being unjustly treated, hell they have even invaded completely innocent people's homes ,destroyed their doors ransacked their house & been found to be in the wrong residence -Just happened last month to a almost 70 year old grand mother in Cape Breton-, Nova Scotia.
I say enough is enough. If someone is that dangerous, Why do you need to attempt to take him down in the middle of the night? If the house is full of drugs, wait & see if he attempts to move them, wait until he leaves the house & pounce on him, then go and search the house.
a couple of years ago in Halifax, they attempted the same thing to put a child into social services care, a 1am raid with a door take down, the owner let loose with a shotgun blast & the cops ran for cover, when it was over , his mother was dead from a heart attack. He & his wife were jailed for firing a gun at police officers. they lost their perfectly healthy baby (it was later found out the reports were false & the baby was in no danger)
But now its too late, they are convicted weapons offenses, all because police couldn't come up to a door in the daytime & use a warrant for social services to sieze the baby. A midnight raid for a healthy well fed & these people were not drug dealers. Hell the only offence was the mother had attempted to keep her children from their biological father & had lost that case, so now they come after her for her new baby & her new husbands baby ! Totaly unrelated & their actions make both of these people criminals with violence because they attempted to protect their home & child in the middle of the night !
You'll never get me to agree with the powers of the police to become absolute.
In a free democratic society, we should not have our rights compromised on assumptions & possibilities.
It should have to be proof.
The fact the trial judge felt there was not enough evidence to support the warrant is irrelevant to the search warrant.
Actually it is.
It shows that a "friendly" judge can easily be swayed by possibilities & not facts.
I feel this is a very relevent point.
At 6/16/08 09:30 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Tiger Woods just won the U.S. Open in the sudden death round, it's been quite a game.
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I just can't decide what is more exciting ....watching paint dry ! ! ! Watching someone else play golf !?!?!?
Watching Paint dry ohhhzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
watching others play whack , Fuck.....ohhzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Sorry I still can't decide, looks like its a tie & I'll have to roll on another coat of paint & tune into more golf ;-)
Maybe this time I'll find excitement >>>>>>NOT<<<<<<<
At 6/15/08 09:45 PM, stafffighter wrote: The guns were unregestered, illegal. You cannot compare the average god fearing homeowner with a gun to a criminal with guns. The simple fact is you have them for different reasons. You have a shotgun incase someone breaks into your house. He had guns incase people tried to get him for selling drugs. There's a difference in context.
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Sorry dude but everyone I know has unregistered guns.
I have a shotgun because I have & do hunted pheasant, upland birds & geese
Maybe you never heard but the majority of Gun Owners don't trust the Goernment & believe the gun Registry is a scam by government to fingure out where all the guns are, who has them & then they can pull an Adolph Hitler Nazi move & go around at night storming into innocent people;s homes & removing their guns.
I'm not talking one or two people here....I'm talking about the whole damn village, sure people (not all of them ) have registered a gun or two...but not all of them.
There is a great deal of mistrust of Government in this area , hell in most area's & people refuse to believe that the police force alone can keep them safe.
If you look at the amount of murders commited by criminals with guns & not being solved or stopped by police ,how can you blame them ?
I would like to try again to clarify my point.
IF THIS GUY WAS SUCH A BIG TIME PLAYER ! ! ! why didn't they have any hard evidence on him?
Why not just pick him off the street in broad daylight & thenm raid his house ?
Why do a smash & hopefully grab something on him, risking themselves & his family ( EVEN IF HE IS A CRIMINAL>>> THEY ARE NOT)
The cops were as usual throwing their weight around, & it was completely unwarranted, hell it was a fishing expedition. That shouldn't be allowed.
