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i read in a book by noam chomsky (that was written before 9/11) that the US was doing things in iraq after the gulf war and that they were doing it behind our backs and the reason we didnt know about it was because the media wasnt covering it, the book was called propoganda of a public mind and was about how the government controls what people know throught the media (sometimes they even plan bombings around prime-time television slots just to get the right reaction from the public)

ther is definatley a secret orginization or a bunch of secret organizations ruling the world.
As it is; and this is a fact; the world is run by the 5,000 richest and most powerful people in the world, just 5,000 for 6,000,000,000, those number are rediculious. That would be an orginization, but it's not really that secret, and i doubt if they call themselves anything

i know a little russian, enough to know that pravda means truth in russian and that it was the title of a very famous soviet newspaper and it could have some sort-of relation to the english word of prophet

a jew is technically someone decendant from Juda, one of Jacob's sons, during the second diaspora almost all of the tribes were exiled and lost, i.e. no-one knows where they are (decendents of one of the lost tribes were found in etheopia, that is why there are etheopians in israel), one tribe, the tribe of Juda went with half of either Ephrayim or Minasheh (i forget), and all of the Levites, (they weren't technically one of the twelve tribes even though levy was one of Jacobs sons), the Levites and the other tribe were few, so the majority of the exilees who didn't get lost and/or asimilated were sons of Juda, so they were called Jews, before the second diaspora they were called Iraelites or Hebrews or something else,
so a jew is a son/daughter of Juda, technically

i think you posted this on the wrong thread, i how no f*ing idea what you're talking about

i actually met one these messianic jews also, they seem to follow some rules of judism but not others, the guys that i met lives near me, he has a beard wears a yalmuka, but gets in his car and drives on shabbos, one day i went to shul for mincha and maariv, and we were short one man for a minion, then this guy walks in and says he need to say kaddish for his father or something, then he looks around and asked why we didn't start yet, he counted everybody and said there were ten so howcome we didn't start yet, so the rabbi said, "well um that kid over there isn't barmiztvahed yet so he doesn't count" i actually had my barmiztvah a few months ago, so i did count, but i still looked young,
later after the guy left the rabbi said to all of us that that guy can't be considered jewish even though he thinks he is, and he can't be counted for a minion,
and this wasn't in an orthodox shul this was in a conservative one

i have to agree with jack on this

At 6/24/04 07:59 AM, JackOfShadow wrote:

At 6/23/04 08:00 PM, bombkangaroo wrote:

i'm saying that the chances of life simply coming into existence are small, not the manner in which living being behave or develop.

In the tests that were described in Asimov's book scientists recreated the conditions that were common on earth in the pre life times and they found out that if you link a box filled with the gasses, fluids and solids that were common on earth at the times to a source of energy after a while you get different organic molecules such as amino acids, nusleo acids and fat molecules. The fat molecules formed spherical structures in order not to dissolve on the water, amino acids formed proteins and nucleic acids formed DNA/RNA. Through chemical reactions proteins and DNA/RNA formed structures. All that was left is for one of these structures to get caught in a fat bubble and you have a prototype of a living cell. I guess that that could have happened in the millions of years that preceeded the creation of life. So as you see the chances for the creation of life aren't that small.

then punch the kids in the face and tell them you're the anti christ.
at least you'll have fun. :D

That's a good idea. Unfortunately if I do that I'll only prove that I'm inferior to them. Besides these "kids" I often argue with are grown adults. That just shows you just how dumb is the average local relegious jew.

yeah, i know amino acids will form eventually in those situations, and then DNA and so on until you have single celled organisms, and then eventually you have complex multicellular organisms, but the hard part is the self-consesnous

and for the record Jews don't dispute that jesus existed, but they don't believe he was anything but a weird crazy nutcase either, they consider him some crazy nut who told some people some stuff to abunch of people in his time that completely disagreed with what was written in the torah and it didn't pick up until many years later

and the jewish messiah is not he son of god, we are all supposed to be children of god, the jewsish messiah is just supposed to be a messiah

hey leap james bond is sci-fi, it's just not as flashy and nerdy as the other things so you don't think of it, a lot of the gadgets and stuff can't be made and some of the themes also are impossible, take the newest one, die another day, the way they changed that guy's face and the fact that he can't sleep is pretty impossible today, but maybe thirty years from now it could be, if you watch some old ones then maybe in some scenes you'll say to yourself, hey that's definately impossible and maybe in others you'd say, hey that could totally happen today, how did they know about that

the picture below is of my favorite science fiction author, Philip Jose Farmer

they aren't creative enough to make up their own ideas they have to borough them and twist and turn them and then extrapolate until they have what they want, you can see this by the way they talk, they can barely say a few words in a coherent manner, no one understands them, go to a lecture guest lecture at a college near you and you;ll see what i'm talking about

that's it now we're all gonna have to wear number and have chip implanted into brains to monitor our thoughts, of course the ruling class will find a way around it, but the rest will have to comply
we really are turning into a facist state

At 6/22/04 06:30 PM, mrpopenfresh wrote:

At 6/22/04 06:28 PM, Slizor wrote: Global Communications was brought about by science fiction, it's true. Arthur C. Clarke (2001: A Space Oddessy) thought up the ideas of satellites - without which we'd be fucked. Science Fiction has brought some great advances.

Irrelevent. Arthur C.Clarke only brought up the concept. If he hadn't though up of it, then one of the researchers who work all day trying to come up with something new & original would have figured out some sort of equivalent.

no, the problem is is that all those really smart geeky scientists aren't creative enough to think up these concepts on there own
ever heard of a book called the elegent universe, it was written by a physics proffesor at columbia named brian greene, he used a lot of star trek analogies in it and it is a best seller and nominated for a pulitzer, his second book, the fabric of the cosmos, is also a best seller, and he uses simson analogies in it.
so you see the scientists might be smart but they don't have imaginations, we wouldn't get anywhere in the more extreme parts of science if it weren't for science-fiction, and
a lot of old science-fiction movies like james bond are now pretty acurate as far as the science goes on some parts, also
the term science-fiction was coined by i think victor hugo, who the hugo awards were named after, and he called them that because they were suposed to be based on the author's knowledge of science-fact, LOTR and all of it's clones are considered fantasy

science fiction is actually very important sociologically, the more intelectual (in saying intelectual i'm saying no LOTR clones) science fiction work provide a basis for people to think about stuff
A good intelectual science fiction author, Philip Jose Farmer, on of his short stories made it into a sociology textbook

you know i would think that a post that had the word porn it would have a lot more people reply to it

At 6/21/04 04:30 PM, RepVenom wrote: That's always something I would have expected the Democrats to do. For example, Al Gore wanted to ban all violent video games if he became president. Well if someone can find some more info on the case and post it up that would be great, I need to read more about this.

that's something all those old guys want to do, whether they're democrat or republican they're both conservative, and they might buy/watch porn themselves but they won't because they're really powerful and will be able to get it anyway.

it's capitalism at its best, or worst depends if you are a stupid fat southerner who listens to every thing they tell you on tv, or you actually think for yourself, like me

At 6/12/04 02:27 PM, JackOfShadow wrote:

At 6/12/04 10:16 AM, Zalbun wrote:

Anyway I think they should Just give Gaza and The West Bank up and make Jeruselam an Independent Country; Run like the Vatican

I really hope you are kidding since if you are not that is the dumbest thing I've heard in a while. First of all most of the country is the west bank. Second every patriot will die before he let's Jerusalem get separated of the country, there was just too much efort put into taking over the city.

well that might be true, but it also might be a good idea to do it, but also giving them that land won't really help them that much, there better off under the complete control of Israel, but Israel will also then have to pass a lot of civil rights laws in addition to a lot of affirmative action laws, so the palestinians get the same oportuninties and stuff, and don't get discriminated against, cause they are treated like shit in Israel

well, before the holocaust the jews and arabs didn't live together in such a peace and harmony as you think, they were ruled by the british, and they hated the british, and it's the british who gave Israel its independence, so basically everything is the british's fault

At 5/31/04 02:10 AM, bumcheekcity wrote:

At 5/31/04 01:55 AM, RedSkynk wrote:

At 5/31/04 01:45 AM, bumcheekcity wrote: How is it not right to enforce a dress code for a school?

He said "it's one thing", he's not attacking your ghey uniform, you crazy brit.

its one thing to have a dress code in a private school, (which they can do because it's a privately owned institution but still isn't right),

YOu were saying? :P

look i don't think it's right because i went to a school that had a dress code and i hated it, i had to tuck in my shirt, wear a yalmuka, wear tzizit (which are really uncomfortable), wear a button down shirt with a collar, and wear dressy pants, i also was forbidden to have certain haircuts and hairlengths and i had to have some side-burns, and the girls also had a dress code, they have to wear long skirts and longsleeve shirts

At 5/31/04 05:59 AM, NotYouZ wrote:

At 5/31/04 01:06 AM, IllustriousPotentate wrote: Nothing, as nothing prohibits them from not being real. But as it would be on a "higher plane" than what is tangible to us, it could never be proven one way or another.

This goes back to String Theory, the so-called, "Theory for Everything," and the presumtion that there are nine or so dimensional membranes. God is not some tangible being sitting somewhere in this universe, but in some higher dimension or plane that we cannot see or touch. Different dimensions could be sitting right next to us, but might as well be trillions of miles away since we can't feel or sense their presence.

yeah i think she's in the eleventh
it's gotta be a female, because i've studied a lot of the bible in yeshiva and god has to be female because no other gender could be so fickle

At 5/30/04 11:46 PM, Chronos_the_almighty wrote: Why are we all just arguing over just Christian interpretations of a god, and why not the other religions' interps as well? Why aren't we discussing Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintoism, Sikhism, Taoism and all others' interps as well (and Mattpravda, what is this Sufism you talk of?)

it's a section of Islam, it's more like a more enlightened for of Islam, very philosophical and stuff, and to top it off the greatest thing about being a sufi is that there are such things as SUFI MASTERS, sort of like Jedi Masters, and Sufis are sort of like Jedis too

At 5/31/04 08:50 AM, Earfetish wrote: I think it's weird in America that no-one votes for 3rd parties, like the Greens, purely because they know no-one else votes for them either.

They run for a reason, y'know.

yeah its all the media that tells people not to vote for third parties, because if there are only two parties then its simpilar and easier to control, i bet most people who vote, vote for the lesser of two evils or don't vote at all, if everyone actually voted for who they think should be in office than there might be a lot of parties that have a majority

it's all the media and their propaganda and stuff
don't listen to it

i've heard of this before, it's crazy, i've also heard that if his company didn't get caught he wouldn't be as rich cause' all of the other partners in the banking firm were caught and punished and stuff and their holdings and properties were seized, but beacuae of some wierd legal thing Bush got the stuff seized from the other partners

At 5/30/04 07:04 PM, Intalekshual wrote: This isn't Israel.

True, but what does that have to do with this?

But you do admit that this isn't Israel?

Yes.

Checkmate.

The Daily Show had a segment about this.

?

At 5/30/04 01:26 PM, FatherVenom wrote: The mathematical improbability of the universe simply existing, much less the existance of life is too big to explain away as "just because". The numbers are something like one in millions of trillions. There had to be some sort of catalyst. If it wasn't God I don't know what it is, but it might as well be called God.

yeah that's why i say life and god are two things that share stuff with quantum mechanics, none of those things would exist without the other

as for me, i was raised a religious jew, but now i'm more of an agnostic, sort of leaning towards doaism or sufism or buddism maybe

that is rediculous, its one thing to have a dress code in a private school, (which they can do because it's a privately owned institution but still isn't right), but to have a dress code on an entire state is just ludicrus, not to mention facist

At 5/29/04 10:34 AM, bumcheekcity wrote:

At 5/29/04 10:22 AM, mattpravda wrote: none of those things should have an age limit

Actually, they should. Otherwise we can't easily prosecute people for having sex with a minor (say, 40 year olf, with 12 year old) when the moinor gives their 'consent'. Really, at 12, that's too young.

consent can mean a lot of things, but what should be determined in a case like that, is if the 12 year old knew fully what they were "consenting" to, whether they were in a sound state of mind to "consent", and whether they fully knew the consequences their actions might create, because the 12 year old might have had sex before

what you should really be asking yourself is if the 12 year old were male and he raped the 40 year old, who would get prosecuted, . . .
and if you tell me both i'm gonna shoot you!

yeah but you still have to remember that corporations just exist to make money, and thats it, so any other things they do, they are doing to get something from it, not out of the kindness of their hearts (which they don't have)

At 5/29/04 05:16 PM, CapitalistSocialist wrote:

At 5/29/04 05:12 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: No progress? How would there be no progress? And no alternative power to the Government?!?!? They ARE the government...

Think about just how mcuh money it takes to develop a new drug or a new car or a new plane. How much money has to be pumped into R&D to develop such goods. And they are not the government as last time I checked they couldn't change laws and they do not collect taxes.

money is the crutch of society, you don't really need it, what does the money that goes into R & D pay for, it pays for people to think, well people don't need to get paid to think they can do it on their own, and get "paid" with food and services if they wanted and needed it

i'm pretty sure suicide in the US is illegal no matter what

it's all this weird burocratic shit that made me be an anarchist

none of those things should have an age limit