At 11/10/09 12:59 AM, nathanallenpinard wrote: I might get two of these in the future...maybe. Assuming I can get two of them.

They would take all my deskspace, but add quite a bit.

The only thing that prevents me from getting them is that I program automation a lot using orchestra tracks.

I actually got one TO automate my orchestral tracks. Record the notes on the first pass, record automation on the second.

well now I feel much better about the buy!

You sir, make a good salesman.

lads, I already did. I searched for HOURS, and I can tell you, nothing else comes close. This place especially seems to be selling them cheap. They go for 180 on average, with some places as high as 280. It's worth a buy, without a doubt I think.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controll er/home?O=cart&A=details&Q=&sku=321870&i s=REG

it's because you can't internet.

If only I lived in the states

I'm definitely going to pick up one of these. I don't expect very heavy use so I'm not thinking it'll break. But as Echoz said, 2 year warranty at the minimum to make it a worthwhile purchase.

yeah, i'd much rather it had sliders as well but if it's a choice between less configurable parameters or just rotaries, i'm leaning towards rotaries... though I suppose that does mean i'm going to have trouble changing more then one at a time.

A good option?

thanks gents on all the suggestions and input.

It's possible to automate everything through the mouse yes but I find it incredibly tedious and I lose a lot of my inspiration when i'm testing mod patches to see if they sound realistic enough or not. I have one slider on my keyboard I use on and off and this thing is so mad useful I just wish I had more sliders... which brings me to this topic.

the ultimate goal is to be able to control my DAW through the mixer. I have no intention of recording anything which is why mic capability is not a deciding factor.

If it's possible to make the analog mixer work in my DAW (without a driver or sorts the DAW would not see it would it?).

Thanks for all the tips and info, proving useful.

that's looking like a very solid buy. Cheers loan.

I found this incredible 16 channel analog buy. The seller recommends I get an analog to USB adapter. I normally am a bit wary of getting converters. Can anybody give any advice or experience stories with these things?

I'm looking for a solid studio mixer to use as a midi interface on my rig. The more I look into it the more data i'm finding and i'm starting to lose my way.

FIrst, what is unpowered and powered mean exactly? Does it work like reference monitors?

Second, any recommendations? I'm not looking to invest a LOT on this thing, 200 tops. I am looking for 8 channel at minimum if possible. Mic capability is not a factor.

thanks guys.

for years they told me it wasn't possible :'0...

well at least now I can use the NI version in there! PLAY version clearly states however on the box it doesn't work in FL as Nathan wrote.

Diggidy damn I gotta run to my PC and use NI version now.

no, wordbuilder NI version does not support within host use, and the new PLAY version states that it doesn't work in FL. Just thought i'd answer this here since I don't often frequent that FL thread.

I can assure you most of us don't care what your reasons are or why you're going. if you're going to go just go. Happy trails.

if they're old then they will not likely get many listens. No bandwith is wasted. If they are getting loads of attention then they make plenty through the ads on those songs to make up for it. You're not harming the site by keeping them. Now if you wanted them gone for other reasons sure, but taking up bandwith is not a good one.

well you nailed it. Trailer music is generic music with the pure intention of having impact. There is no other intention to it then to amplify the feeling of excitement, or make a movie trailer itself seem more interesting.

Why do they do it? Because the royalties you can get from a single trailer song can easily break into 6 digits. Music is a business, trailer music is just another branch.

dear giftee.

I hate you

that is all.

well it's a good assumption. Not many mid teenagers who produce crap are going to belt out the several hundred Adobe Flash wants to keep producing crap. Same principle applies here.

I started off completely pirated, but now the studio is totally legit. Cost several thousand dollars along the way, don't regret a single penny (except for a few random libraries here and there)

At 10/26/09 09:25 PM, btriangle wrote: Wow very awesome. I hope you guys do great, the music is pretty great.

Im still quite unsure of the creation of this group though, could you explain it a bit better to me so i can understand?

I'm a little lost on the question. Are you asking why we formed? The short answer to that is because we simply wanted to try and take ourselves further. Everybody in the group strides towards the simple goal of making it in the industry. And while the definition is simple we are ALL painfully aware how difficult that journey is.

@ Nathan.
The auto play thing was something I was aggressively debating with myself. I could never decide if I should have it or not. On one end it proves annoying if you're browsing other sites. On the other, it's a quick way of showing the potential client what you're capable of.

The auto play may or may not stay. I've tentatively put it on for now.

Thanks everybody for the warm wishes.

Hey guys! I wanted to make the audio forum the first place to publicly announce this. I felt it was only fitting since everything started here.

The NG centric team of composers has finally broken into the world of audio freelancing! For many months now we've been working in the backgrounds, dealing with jobs and networking as we went along. Friends gained, friends lost it's been a testing period since the beginning.

Some of you may know and remember how the first 2 renditions of the site was. The first unfocused, the second bizarre and unattractive. This time we've taken the time to refine it, to make sure we were all happy with it.

I want to show you all our home The Symphony of Specters!

Wish us luck, the real journey starts here.

haha, Darren man, you should be a sales person.

The KRK's also have these qualities to them, well at least I remember as such.

Can you vouch for their durability? I have been told they are slightly fragile. I mean I don't intend to move them once places so fragility is not entirely a concern for me but would just like to get your opinion on that matter.

haha, well, I guess i'm in. But... whoever I get, and likely i'll get somebody who likes teh technoos or untz untz dance, prepare to be bitterly disappointed by my crappy untz dancing production skillz.

I like only the melodic flow of french horns atop trombone chords jumping from major to minor all the effing time. The violins must play Dim7 when the trombones dip into a minor chord. It must modulate into different keys at what seems random but must still retain it's flow so not to sound like Solus' work. There must be cowbells, so many in fact it would confuse local shepherds around the world. Additionally if the erhu violin is not present none of it holds.

Anything less would ruin my christmas >:c

But on a more serious note I like sad melodic music. Sad ambiance, sad chill core, sad epic. Whatever, as long as it has an intimate feeling. I also appreciate highly aggressive but melodic work too. Dance/Progressive metal... orchestral i guess is an obvious one.

At 10/24/09 01:03 PM, mariomusicmaker1 wrote: Well i have never used studio monitors before, but for the last year i have been using 2 energy rc-10's and 2 rc-70's. extremely high fidelity speakers and you can get the 10's for about 300 each. fantastic mid bass and even better highs, all around the best bookshelf speakers i have ever used. but they do need to be hooked up to a reviver, so add an extra 600 bucks on to it if you dont own one, I believe most studio monitors have built in amps? correct me if im wrong, I have never seen the apeal of that, i would much rather have more control over my sound and be able to use the speakers for home theater use after im done producing,

well that's way over my budget. I don't mind giving up amp control, I would prefer it. I like to listen to everything through studio/flat response hardware simply so i'm constantly being surrounded by mixes as they should sound without coloring.

I've had 3 people thus far tell me the KRK 5 are awesome and would recommend the KRK 6, I think I may just go with them.

I wish I was fortunate enough to have enjoyed his flashes as they came out. Too late I discovered them only through these harsh circumstances.

A damn shame. I am however very humbled too by the community. Only here at Newgrounds can the death of a contributor be felt so close to so many hearts.

RIP Ben, I hope they have a bug free version of Flash up there.

yeah, i've heard some wild things about KRK's. I was already leaning towards them but I wanted to get some opinions. m-audio is a pretty tight brand too, so right now just kind of trying to decide which one of the two.

So i'm going to upgrade my gig, i've got a few potential candidates that hover around my budget for now ($500 ish). I've settled on these 3. Any opinions on any of them, or perhaps suggestions on some others would be fantastic.

KRK RP6 G2 Pair
M-Audio BX8a Deluxe (Pair)
Fostex PMO.5MkII Pair

much thanks in advance.

like hell it can be controlled though. As it's largely a user contributed loop base impossible to memorize the flow of new loops. It's a pretty neat application for a browser. Like splice that went under about a year ago.

only 2 or 3 tones? That's easy enough, drop me a pm with a screen shot of the game and i'll churn out a few.

MaestroRage is the guy signing the papers to begin immediate demolition of the Symbols Asylum.

Happy take your first breath probably because you were abused by a doctor to get you started day.

Flash does not like midi files... at all. The way to make Flash read and recognize a Midi file is far more then makes it worth your while I can assure you. If you're saying you've got it all working and figured out I NEED to see the snippet of code you're using. It's nothing short of poetry in code form i'm sure.

Realistically if you want 4 loops, even at minimum size of 30 seconds if you go below 96kbs you're going to get some rather unpleasant artifacts. You're looking at nothing less then 1.4 - 1.5mb. At the opposite end of the specter, 4 loops of 60 seconds at 96 kbs will be 2.8 - 3.0mb.

A game of 3mb is very fair in today's standards. But keeping it below 1mb, if you want to have more then 1 loop of 30 seconds in audio is sadly impossible.