In the future, I really suggest you try searching for topics like this. You can find relevant information all over the place.

At 11/25/09 12:42 AM, KgZ wrote: Chron, you can't just take the positives. You need to embrace both good and bad. Just because people may give negative feedback about the AP, doesn't mean it should be disregarded.

negative feedback has filled every venue of discussion in the AF. why not concentrate some positive?

At 11/24/09 01:56 PM, Chronamut wrote: I am still not big on the concept of audio mods havign the power to delete user's songs as I see this being swayed in a very biased or negative way - what's to stop a mod from deleting everything techno simply because he doesn't understand things and thinks that all techno on newgrounds is made from preset loops?

Because for the most part it's not hard to avoid handing out modship to a pack of gibbering idiots.

or a mod that deletes the entire vg portal becauseh e thinks that every single song submitted is a midi rip?

Same reason.

or a mod that deletes every single cover on newgrounds? Or every single song that uses any sample whatsoever?

Ultimately I think that for some reason you believe song deletion is some permanent into the ether effect, when it doesn't have to be. Say when a mod 'deletes' a song, it's simply removed from public view. The user is sent a PM informing them of this event. They then have the ability to discuss why this happened with the mod who made the choice, and if they don't agree with the mod's reasoning, the issue can be taken further up the line. If the mod is found to be in error, the submission's public status is reinstated.

So long as the tools are constructed in a reasonable manner, I don't think there's a whole lot of reason to worry. And if for some reason a mod did start trying to fuck with users (in spite of an inability to actually remove songs, as in this proposition), it would become clear pretty quick when higher-ups started hearing about how this mod is removing tracks that shouldn't have been.

I'd feel more comfortable knowing one person is responsible for receiving notificatinos from mods who FLAG them instead of delete them, then he can decide what to delete and whatnot.

Why? Who's to say that person doesn't believe every VG song is a midi rip?

At 11/24/09 01:12 PM, Chronamut wrote:

At 11/24/09 01:07 PM, Mich wrote: Chronamut, I believe the people you're talking about are called moderators.

the moderators are limited in power though - I'm talking more a dedicated admin.

Out of curiosity, what exactly do you envision this person being responsible for?

At 11/24/09 10:57 AM, TomFulp wrote: excellent words

It's very, very heartening to know we're heard.

The idea of things moving forward technically is definitely an exciting one. We'll never be free of the bitching and complaining, I'm sure.

But there'll always be a solid core of users who appreciate the portal as it is.

At 11/24/09 10:14 AM, Rucklo wrote: those who claim that macs don't crash as much as PC's probably stuffed their PC's with too much crap. a stuffed mac crashes as much as any PC. if you think othervice, you never used the mac's at my school...

dude. every single time I try to use a mac it crashes.

At 11/24/09 09:45 AM, nathanallenpinard wrote: There's still some parts you can't really upgrade internally that I know of past the simple stuff though.

For example? I imagine you can't go out and buy a new motherboard (that whole EFI thing), but beyond that there's no reason I can think of that you couldn't replace any individual hardware components.

At 11/24/09 03:50 AM, Back-From-Purgatory wrote: That said, I'd go with PC (Betchya didn't see that coming!) because you have more control over your hardware, and in a lot of cases, your software. A PC, you can upgrade as demands rise. Going mac means you need to buy a new computer every time the first one goes out of style.

This isn't really true any more man. Macs run the same intel hardware as most of the rest of the world, with some very slight differences (EFI being the primary thing that comes to mind). And they get much more regular OS updates.

At 11/24/09 05:47 AM, Indigon wrote: Nevermind, this can ignored. I found what I look for :)

For the sake of certainty:

Any music you find in the audio portal is strictly for non-commercial use. If you want to use it outside the license it's released under, you must contact the artist.

At 11/23/09 10:41 PM, DanceNation wrote: I missed the point of this thread. I wrote a very long, poorly planned rant.

Dude, what?

The point here is not to bitch some more. In fact, it's the opposite of that.

At 11/24/09 03:03 AM, LAB3L wrote: So the question is, which would be better, faster and easier to get the job done seamlessly, and still be a good computer 1-2 years from now. When I run Protools on PC's it sometimes crashes making me lose everything, I have been a PC user since age 5. But always wanted a mac

Frankly?

The hardware is exactly the same in modern times.

So if you're familiar with windows, that's what you'll be most immediately comfortable with. Personally, I fuckin hate the mac OS. I don't get along with it.

You pay a pretty hefty premium going with apple, as well. That's definitely something to consider.

At 11/24/09 12:45 AM, SymbolCymbal wrote: im fuckin down for some debautchery. how long is your christmas break?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSPfCx56Y dw

I KNOW OF A TAVERN NOT FAR FROM HERE WHERE YOU CAN GET SOME MIGHTY FINE BEER

At 11/24/09 12:03 AM, jarrydn wrote:

At 11/24/09 12:01 AM, loansindi wrote: There are midi guitar pickups. They're expensive.

Melodyne DNA might also work, depending on how it handles octaves.

I don't think a guitar is really ideal for MIDI input. Much of the expressiveness of a guitar can't really be encoded in midi. At least not well.

http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/p roduct/Shadow-Quick-Mount-Guitar-to-Midi -Converter-System-?sku=300106

At 11/23/09 11:48 PM, JackRocker wrote: alright, thanks everyone for helping. as for Chilvan, no, i don't think it's possible to record into a piano roll with a guitar(i've tried, unsuccessfully). maybe if they made a guitar that connected directly to a computer via USB, but anyway, that's not the point. thanks for your help everyone.

There are midi guitar pickups. They're expensive.

At 11/23/09 11:14 PM, DJ-Chilvan wrote:

At 11/23/09 11:09 PM, Zooloo75 wrote:

I've seen that before and I love it but for one concern: It's only like 25 keys. For the stuff I play I need the 88 keys,

an 88 key controller is going to, obviously, be more pricey than a smaller controller.

http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.co m/product/MAudio-Keystation-Pro-88-MIDI-
Controller?sku=709203

http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.co m/product/MAudio-Keystation-88es-USB-MID I-Keyboard-Controller?sku=703607

At 11/23/09 10:01 PM, Bjra wrote: Im in northeast ohio, near cleveland, and close to the PA border. might have to drop by and we can jam some time

Aww man trekkin across most of the state

show them that the ng audio portal is a community to be reckoned with

Lol. Six AF regs banging on the ng door HEY OPEN UP

hells yeah

That would make it all worth it though.

At 11/23/09 09:54 PM, Bjra wrote: I say we have a hill jack NG musician meet up here soon. we could all go and raid the next comic-con in philly, and meet tom fulp, the lightbringer, and the ng staff in person as a group

Where in ohio are you man? I'm in fort wayne, so I'm like 20 minutes away from the border. I can be in van wert in an hour, bowling green in a little more than that.

show them that the ng audio portal is a community to be reckoned with

Lol. Six AF regs banging on the ng door HEY OPEN UP

At 11/23/09 08:32 PM, Bjra wrote: collabin' in real life

I'd really like to meet some of you talented fuckers IRL, and produce some tracks, too bad we all live in bum fuck egypt

Dude, I'm in indiana. WE HAVE MORE THAN CORN.

...

I did some research into this 'superwire.'

It's copper wire pulled with what's called the Ohno Continuous Casting process. It's measurably more 'pure' than standard oxygen free copper.

Check out this article, especially the cautioning words at the end.

Regarding shielding:

Unless a cable is poorly manufactured, the shielding present in any decent cable is basically acts like a faraday cage, changing the material of your shield doesn't really affect its performance.

Most noise in your audio system is gonna come from microphones, guitar pickups, shitty connectors and what have you.

At 11/23/09 08:28 PM, nathanallenpinard wrote: Eh, well I have a different perspective, I buy them from the co-founder of Sunn Audio. He makes probably some of the best guitar amps on the market. I also have a pair of speakers he made when he was attempting that market. I'm inclined to believe him as he worked at Fender for years and knows what he's talking about.

He obviously also knows how to make money man.

The significant difference I noticed was the bass seemed to be a lot cleaner. The cables I had before were simple monster cables.

Man. You've made the investment so I'm obviously not going to shake your opinion. But $100 a FOOT for some copper wire is a ripoff. The end. I bet if we sliced those cables open they wouldn't look much different from monster's fare.

At 11/23/09 08:28 PM, Trancik wrote: YES let us have ur own indivisual threds so we can post our music. in eed esxposure so i can get my songs out to the record label, then i can become famous and rich! wooh, ng ap needs this, evertibe who is against this is a democrat.

Wait.

You think exposure on NG is going to get your music to a record label?

Burn some CDs and mail them out. It'll be faster.

At 11/23/09 08:13 PM, nathanallenpinard wrote: Doesn't NG purge inactive threads after a certain amount of time though?

So what if it did? If you're not releasing new tracks that often, and no one's talking about them, the thread isn't helping.

However, this gem from 2005 suggests you'll be just fine.

At 11/23/09 07:54 PM, nathanallenpinard wrote: 6 ft, and the cable is heavy gauge wire that bends like coax cable. It's expensive, probably 100 bucks a foot, but worth it. I can't break them either.

a hundred. dollars. a foot. for some copper.

Usually when you use cheap wire, you notice the sound being more colored.

Or you just spent 100 dollars a foot on cable and you really really want it to sound better.

Using 15 dollar wire for good monitors is kind of like using a 100 dollar preamp for a 5000 mic.

It's worth noting that the OP is buying bottom of the range monitors.

I went for the cheap route with my microphone, grabbing a 99 buck seinheiser e385, and a cheap 15 dollar cable, same quality as my speaker cables, and when I pump up the compression on my voice I record in, that miniscule noise suddenly becomes a BIG issue. I assume noise inherent in the mic and/or the cable is the cause of this.

You're going to blame noise in a 100 dollar microphone on the cable? I mean, really?

And of course a compressor is going to make noise louder. That's what it does. It makes soft sounds and loud sounds the same volume.

At 11/23/09 06:14 PM, nathanallenpinard wrote:

At 11/23/09 05:29 AM, jarrydn wrote: I really really like the idea of a thread for each artist.

You'd still need a forum, as the threads would get drowned since they would be updated periodically.

It works just fine over in the art forum.

At 11/23/09 11:08 AM, nathanallenpinard wrote: High quality cable is essential in mixing and mastering. Granted, if he's starting out he doesn't need to yet, but later he will want to. I use custom made cables. They are expensive as hell but worth it.

I'm still going with bullshit on this. I've read enough articles where people A/B expensive cable and shitty ones with the oh-so-shocking result that the difference was negligible, and had enough experience in live sound, and studied electronics long enough, that I refuse to believe any incredibly slight electrical variations between two cables really change your sound quality significantly.

You only need to buy expensive high quality cables for the signal path from the audio source to the speakers though.

Considering this run, in your average home studio, is like three feet tops, I am that much more dubious of your 'custom made' cables. At most, using a 'poor' cable, you'll witness some extra attenuation of the signal. But if the run is three feet... it's negligble.

At 11/23/09 08:24 AM, jarrydn wrote:

At 11/23/09 06:48 AM, CWN wrote: One of the reasons I still buy CDs... Downloading them on iTunes etc. is just not the same thing...

This statement would have more integrity if you replaced "CD" with "vinyl"

Not really.

Vinyl is neat. I like vinyl. But as a format, for most people it ends up being inferior to CDs.

Not even as a matter of perceived quality of sound. Just because vinyl is big and fragile compared to the CD. It takes a much larger shelf to hold vinyl, and it's hard to store in such a way as to make it easy to flip through them.

CDs take up less space overall, have nice durable plastic outer shells, and I can play them in my car.

At 11/23/09 07:54 AM, TranceCrafter wrote: rant rant rant

Okay. Don't get pissy that people don't appreciate your somewhat limited efforts to 'help,' this is the internet. It's not serious business.

Have you considered at least providing some commentary to the files, so that someone might actually have an opportunity to at least read about why you did whatever you did?

Excellent points.

Personally, newgrounds has been a big part of my musicianship. I first submitted a song a year and a half or so into my journey towards musicianship.

Since then, I haven't written a -lot- of music, but what I have written, I owe pretty much entirely to my activity on newgrounds. I know I've learned a lot here in the AF, and a fair bit from reviews on my tracks.

Yes, it's not a perfect system, our audio portal, but it's a system. The mere fact that it's here is something to be grateful for. Yeah, it's hard to get your music out there. Yeah, there could be improvements. Yeah, there's a lot of garbage. Yeah, there's zero voting, and there's abuse there's shitty songs in the top five.

But so what? We've got a really solid community here in the audio forum and there is really a lot of good music in the AP.

Let's use this week of thanksgiving (here in the us) and be thankful for what we have. If we show some positivity, maybe we can gain some respect.

Since you're going to say 'But this isn't about advertisements!' I suggest you check out this thread for a mod's opinion of these plans.

Also, I linked to another failed attempt in there, with the same response by a mod.

At 11/23/09 02:34 AM, EmperorCharlemagne wrote: Playing guitar for anything longer than 20 minutes straight starts to hurt. I wasn't born for the strings of a gee-tar.

Just a matter of practice man