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At 2/3/13 08:59 AM, Peglay wrote: wait, what happened to stickam?

They're not saying. Stickam closed effectively overnight, and outside of a short meaningless statement have declined to comment on what caused it. Nobody knows, and there's been quite a bit of contention from the core audience over that.

This was just after the introduction of the paid "VIP" service too.

Who cares.

If it looks how you intended it to look, and it looks good, then a motherfucking winrar is you. Otherwise accuracy important when the emphasis is on that, style is important under the it's own context, and doing something for the sake of doing it has always been stupid.

At 2/2/13 05:01 AM, Mohabot wrote: All in all I have to admit I got what I deserved. I used to think I was right, but I realized a while ago its the total opposite. And today, I felt more fluid in my way to express myself properly, so I decided to type this. I tried my best and I hope you will forgive me, because I dont want to be pictured as the one I was before.

Yo, it was mild disagreement at your intentions, not a clusterfuck of hate. No need to grovel, dude, we've all made mistakes, and looking back through the thread you were hardly inciting a forum-wide riot, fucking picket signs demanding you be burned alive and crap.

So like, there was no need for a public fucking apology the likes of it would make a court-mandated DUI concession blush.

At 2/1/13 04:51 AM, J-qb wrote:

At 2/1/13 04:42 AM, Lintire wrote: Sure you can. Human capitol and all that.

I'd genuinely prefer to have the right one rather than the more expensive ones

Won't hold that against you. My own impending tattoo looks like it was done in MS Paint. Which is fucking funny, and I don't care who says otherwise.

You can tell which one would *probably* (accounting for the fact that they might have been blackmailed into it) cost more, though.

At 2/1/13 04:39 AM, Morthagg wrote: Sweetpea, the point really flew miles over your head here, didn't it.

If this was a game of warm/cold then you'd be sweating it in Death Valley while I was in the middle of Antartica beating my head against a frozen fucking tundra. The point was in an entire other fucking continent while I was tapping my feet and rocking out to the tune of Deliverance as played by my new dickcicle and matching nutcubes.

It's like, it turns out I was in the same boat all along, but I misinterpreted the statement so wildly I cocked a gun, held me hostage against myself, tripped and fell into the coldest fucking river on earth (we're still in Antartica for this analogy) and shot myself in the foot for good measure.

Yeah, it flew pretty fucking high overhead.

At 2/1/13 01:29 AM, Sockembop wrote: But this is all just wrong. You can't look at a painting and determine how much the artist charged for it, if anything at all.

Sure you can. Human capitol and all that.

At 2/1/13 04:32 AM, Captain-Carrion wrote: Fuck art.

#Real shit.

Gnarly, motherfuck.

#Darksiders2

At 2/1/13 01:11 AM, M-Vero wrote: Becoming an artist to make money sounds like going to a desert to swim

As in you wake up in the middle of nowhere with a dry mouth, sore muscles and itching in places you don't even want to acknowledge?

Sounds about right.

At 1/31/13 06:59 PM, Morthagg wrote: Um..
I already feel bad for this in general, but am I the only one that actually makes better art and tries to experiment more when given an assignment or asked for a commision?

Yep.
You're the only one who has ever tried to improve.

Leonardo Da Vinci famously mooned people who ever dared try to commision his art, and I think most of us like to try and emulate that by dancing on a cam naked for 40 seconds and posting the recorded videos in activity threads. In fact these days I don't even do requests, I just fart on my tablet and let them have a whiff.

It's a good life.

At 1/31/13 12:23 AM, Lucky wrote:

At 1/31/13 12:19 AM, Lintire wrote:

There is so much full of shit in that statement I can not begin to dissect
fuckin what

If you can't articulate your own rebuttal then why did you even bother. That's not even grammatically accurate, so you might want to take a moment to calm down before you reply. Let's have a debate here, I'm open to the concept that I'm wrong.

People offering their work for free are your competition. This is business, and unless you can offer a service better then what they can offer for free and have people willing to pay for it, then you've been outclassed, not unfairly deprived of your daily bread and butter.

Their motivations for offering their work for free aren't your concern, but for all intents and purposes they are your business rivals and should be treated as such.

Corporations and individuals asking for use of your previously manufactured consumer goods aren't crossing some imaginary line, they're offering a lopsided deal, and short of shoving a gun in your face they can't force you to take it.

At 1/30/13 05:51 AM, Lucky wrote: ALLof you need to watch this recent post by Stephen Silver
It's VERY relevant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWXYoD7wfOs

Typical artist who doesn't understand the concept of human capitol. I don't care if it took you 40 years to shit on a canvas, and neither does anyone else. People are offering what they deem is a sufficient transaction for your skills and if you feel it's a shitty deal, deny it. You don't have to justify it further, you never did.

The "40 years plus 10 minutes" ideal has always been full of shit. We've always discriminated by current ability, not the amount of time invested, and that's not going to change if you just shut your eyes tight and wish very hard. I would offer a professional child who grasped art the moment he did a pen fuckloads more then an amateur adult who's spent his whole life drawing and can only produce scribbles.

You're not entitled to anyone's money and they're not entitled to your time. He's right about the concept of exposure being terrible but anyone who falls for that shtick deserves exactly what's coming to them. Nobody can force you to work for them.

At 1/29/13 09:41 AM, lovingthedark wrote: Adobe's really aware that their programs' status as industry standards is dependent on their products being taught in schools.

Are they? I mean, I can see how that is for Microsoft, especially since outside of gaming, they aren't particularly better or worse then their competitors that a simple transition period wouldn't overcome, transition that most people don't want to deal with. So their constant school deals and notably static GUI made them a staple in computing.

But compared to the other photo-editing programs, Photoshop is noticeably good. Intuitive and aesthetically interface, easily customized and responsive controls, both of which for a lot more then people give them credit for. Despite my high school relying on Gimp, the moment Photoshop, even the free, stripped down version of 7, became available, everyone switched. And it was so much better.

That doesn't justify the absurd price for a piece of software, but Adobe has more going for it then pre-emptive business tactics.

At 1/29/13 02:08 AM, Lucky wrote: God damn it you guys can you stop begging for money on every collab request thread, get a job or freelance elsewhere. It's pretty obvious when people aren't providing payment if they don't put it up on the original post.

You're doing a disservice to the common predicament these threads find themselves and obviously angling your statement in favour of the prospective collaborator (they're not looking for money, do it'd be presumptuous to call them a client). Badly I might add. Don't quit your day job, propaganda wouldn't work out for you.

The people who post in those threads berating the inquiry as asking for a handout aren't doing so because they'd take the job otherwise, they're doing so because they feel like their skills are being taken for granted and not treated with respect. It doesn't help that the inquirers are obviously intimidated by the prospect of working with skilled artists and therefore feel the intense need to justify people working with them for free (attempting to offer essentially meaningless rewards which have never convinced anyone), so at the slightest provocation they launch into these paragraph long spiels trying to paint themselves as the victim that hinder them like all fuck. Pro-tip; there is no victimization, on either side. Stop acting like it.

These intense insecurities play off each other, perpetually exacerbate themselves and the thread goes to shit. Repeat that a hundred times and voila, you've summed up every non-sketchbook thread in the Art Forum. It's practically a drinking game at this point.

You can't see the forest for the trees and neither can anyone else. Congratulations on being fucking stupid, I need a drink. Something bitter.

At 1/27/13 06:33 AM, J-qb wrote: I'd personally stay away from anything with texture when it comes to pixelart.. unless you have really big pixels.

Now why in the absolute fuck would you say that?

Whatever, sent.

At 1/23/13 05:01 PM, Lucky wrote: Has anyone EVER done a drawing or heard of someone doing a drawing for a girl

Not unless it was another dame. Only other motherfuckers I've met exercising pen to paper in a gnarly aesthetically pleasin' manner were dolls themselves.

At 1/17/13 11:25 AM, Escalus wrote: *Raises hand*
say you get paired up with someone you absolutely loathe, would it be possible to change partners (Or would you rather the person to suck it up and stop being such a blowhard?)

Use this opportunity to pile-drive them into the fucking ground with them skills of yours.

At 1/16/13 03:12 PM, Lunaful wrote:

At 1/13/13 12:26 PM, Klik wrote: I'm fairly certain it's just a glitched out version of the characters as tricker mode has been in easter eggs in various other flashes in the past but this is the first time in which it's actually plot relevant.

But in relation to its impact on the story?

I just told you. The Hussie was amused at the fan response, so like every other seemingly inane addition to the story since the beginning he incorporated it into the comic, and left everyone to figure out exactly what it means. And it's been brilliant.

So far the "impact" is exactly what it seems to be. Giving everyone flight, an absurd amount of lethality and the superpower of being Caucasian.

Hey, can't say the JuJu wasn't foreshadowed.

At 1/17/13 12:44 AM, ornery wrote:

At 1/17/13 12:39 AM, Captain-Carrion wrote: Iv'e grown an affinity for the art classified under the label of Outsider Art.

"yeah it sucks, but its supposed to, thats the whole point. We are taking the conventions that make everything good in art and since we lack the necessary ability to meet those conventions we are gonna make our own club where bad is good."

Holy shit, that's a Grade A in bullshitting right there! I can't help but be impressed.

There's a million motherfuckers scribbling to their hearts content and not giving a shit about the quality, so they're pissing in the wind. Still I'm sure that's exactly the kind of "art movement" that would earn them top scores at their local community college.

Alright, I'm in.

At 1/13/13 11:50 AM, Lunaful wrote: But what does trickster mode all mean?!

If you pressed ctrl+T in a few flashes you'd activate "Trickster Mode", which in its first iteration featured an alternative John sprite with a lollipop in his hair. It was basically noclip and allowed you to access some wicked radical shit in that walkaround, and in later ones it'd transport you to secret rooms, that sort of stuff.

A lot of fun, and some fandom artists took to drawing trickster sprites for all the kids. Hussie was amused as fuck. Now its canon.

Anyway take a read through this review of homestuck. It's pretty fucking surreal.

At 1/9/13 08:36 AM, Lunaful wrote: Ello again,

[S] Jane: engage was a bit....mad. Thoughts

Beautiful. Utterly beautiful. You have no idea how happy this makes me.

No idea. This is everything I love about homestuck. Not the shipping, not the characters moaning and whining about thier relationships (instead of, say, the entirety of their species being lost in the wind).

No, what I love are the utter madcap hijinks, beautiful fuckarserry and everything going to shit because of a lollipop and an otherwise useless maid of life. Everything is good.

And it's only

getting

better.

Cyberpunk Kim and Amy. Make it happen, dude.

Get a hobby. Cooking, painting, working out, whatever. Just learn to do something you enjoy and you can kill thousands of hours as you wait to die on something other then consuming media.

No I just smear my shit-covered ass on the walls. Doesn't make it any cleaner, but I have made some pretty original art this way.

I don't know. Some stuff that didn't really matter. Maybe a prized collectible or two. Some intangible concepts. Can't remember.

There you go. I can't remember shit. Keep losing my memory, if that fits the bill. Not a big deal, wasn't doing much with it anyway, but it is getting progressively worse.

Foreword: You don't need to be good at something to have an opinion on it. You're allowed to think something sucks, no-one can take that away from you.

You do, however, need to know your shit to criticize it with any degree of accuracy.

At 1/5/13 02:27 AM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:

At 1/5/13 01:32 AM, Lintire wrote: Just shut up and stick to deciding whether or not you like it. Newgrounds as fine as-is, a bunch of uppity assholes running around being oh so fucking helpful wouldn't help anything.

I entirely disagree. True, there are quite a few people who can't be assed to read long critiques but there are also quite a few who can be. It's not worthwhile to critique people who have obviously put no creative effort into what they've made but I don't think it's a waste of time at all to critique those who seem to genuinely care about the quality of their work.

Hah, nice work on reading my post.

I'm joking you suck and your critiques suck. Yeah your abhorrent unhelpful critiques were included in the generic umbrella of "everyone here and their patronizing paragraphs can go fuck themselves". You just sit there and fucking go on and on and expect them to interpret words about a visual medium in a constructive manner. Hell you just proved you can't even interpret words divorced of a criticizing context.

Let me save you the fucking trouble and sum up my post so you can't fuck it up so badly next time (hint, it wasn't that it was too long, it was too long-winded. as in you suck):

1) You can't make people better. They have to help themselves. And the minute they start doing that, they don't need some parental guiding hand, just the rulebook and the patience to figure it out. You can't teach humility and the willingness to improve.
2) Everything you could possibly say, someone else has said better. Everything. On art. Your words are redundant, and most of the written advice is repeatable ad nauseum. Doesn't stop you and every silly asshole with the ability to write more then sentence without getting bored just talk talk fucking talk GOD DAMN IT.

What you spew out is just words. Words that don't matter, words that confuse and befuddle a singularly visual medium.

That leaves in your toolbag of goodies to help people:

1) Links. Links to people who know their stuff and have managed to construct brilliant tutorials and everything the budding artist needs to get better. These people know their shit and have layed it out for people to peruse themselves in a manner they feel like, instead of having it spoonfed to them. Doesn't matter how long it is.
2) Demonstrations. Redrawing, repainting, whatever, their art to articulate your personalized ideas in a manner easily applicable by said artist. The less words the better, use your skill to teach. Hell, create a tutorial yourself.
3) No. That's it.

Neither of can be done in the usual pissing newground's reviewing format, are done in the atypical newground's art forum, and are even mildly attempted by YOU.

At 1/5/13 01:33 AM, TheColourAwesome wrote: YOu're aiming way too high.

This. Just chill and take it one step at a time before you tackle the higher-end stuff.

Hah.

Yeah I submit crap here. Mostly because despite half my shit being fanart it still gets more attention here then everywhere else I post it combined. No big deal. Doesn't matter, doesn't make me better then any other fucking user that's for sure.

I wish just about every "helpful" critic would shut up. They're either complete ass-kissers, or just talk for the sake of talking. All operating under the false assumption that you can "push" someone to be more creative through your stupid words. Unless you know in exquisite fucking detail what you're talking about and can give them exactly the amount of help they request and are happy to accept and actually use, you're wasting everybody's fucking time.

I don't know how many long-winded critiques I've read that my reaction can boil down to "blah blah blah blah SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP". Too many.

Watching a lot of professional reviewers struggle as they attempt to articulate exactly why they didn't like such-and-such is cringe inducing, let alone your average schmuck who can't even be arsed to demonstrate why something needs fixing.

Just shut up and stick to deciding whether or not you like it. Newgrounds as fine as-is, a bunch of uppity assholes running around being oh so fucking helpful wouldn't help anything.

Yeah, I guess they are. People are getting less ashamed about their sexual desires.

It's not some societal issue. Don't have a cow, man. There are plenty of sites that stick to more conventional stuff. Redtube comes to mind.

At 1/4/13 10:31 AM, Urban-Champion wrote: Seems like porn threads are all the rage on BBS these days

Implying they weren't always a running trend. Most, if not all, people here peruse pornography in some form or other. Jacking off is the gooey link that binds us together as a community.

CGhub
ConceptArt.org
The Drawing Script
Bandcamp

Plus there's Tumblr, Newgrounds, a bit of 4chan, blah blah blah, who cares.

I tend to visit a lot of sites, I just also tend to narrow them down to the ones I like.