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At 2/16/11 06:40 PM, Tekken9292 wrote: Just for the record, has there even been anyone who has complained that Ray used their video?

there's been a few actually

At 2/16/11 05:32 PM, chainsawmurderer53 wrote: Who cares about that stuff, his voice, his hair and every one of his videos are annoying, and he is a cock.

Woah! let's not get personal buddy. I feel your pain, but Ray might be a nice guy outside of youtube. I don't hate him, and neither should you. but the fact that he gets profit from stuff that isn't his? clearly there's a problem with that, and I won't be afraid to put it out there.

At 2/16/11 05:19 PM, thdrkside wrote: STFU, you dont know shit. Everybody hates you, even your mother, and btw no one wants to hear your opinion, not even God. Go back to living in a terrapins anus with Richard Simons, sucking cocks so people will actually care about you. (or at least pretend to)

that's exactly what I would say to Ray if I ever met the guy. Thanks thdrkside

At 2/16/11 05:12 PM, SteelChair wrote: Screw all YouTube stars, FPS Russia, Tay Zonday and JamesNintendoNerd are the only things that are not gay.

Hold on, i'm not insulting everyone, i just don't like what Ray is doing. I don't understand why people think I clump all the reviewers together. That's not the point, Ray uses other user's content.. and makes money. if he didn't make a cent on his videos, the copyright thing wouldn't even matter. he couldn't get copyright claims to take down his videos then. the fact that his videos are making a profit, that's the real discussion.

At 2/16/11 05:02 PM, Tetris wrote:

At 2/16/11 03:30 AM, LilSelena wrote: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

asdf

Also why did you put this in your userpage if you already put it here. Seems like more people would read it if it was on the BBS instead of some nobody's page.

no need to overreact Tetris. just stick to the topic please..

At 2/16/11 04:51 PM, Racist-Bassist wrote:

At 2/16/11 04:48 PM, LilSelena wrote: Music? That's not even what the discussion is about, music and a video clips are two different things. They can copyright that music because it's been a certain amount of years after the original artist dies. But seriously, how can you relate that topic with video clips? Please explain.

We were talking about copyright infringement. Music is an example of it. Wow, you really do not understand copyrights. The reason those songs can be released is because they are considered public domain, as in NOT FUCKING COPYRIGHTED, SO IT ISN'T COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT TO USE IT. Repeat after me, the videos Ray uses are not copyrighted, so it is not stolen to use them, and Fair Use would cover him even if he does. Why don't you complain about any of the people who review copyrighted Hollywood videos and sometimes feature clips?

coecoo's copyright claim to take down of one his videos? so that's not stealing content? I wonder how that video got pulled if it wasn't copyrighted? if you posted a video on youtube, there's copyright on it.. "Only upload videos that you made or that you are authorized to use. This means don't upload videos you didn't make, or use content in your videos that someone else owns the copyright to, such as music tracks, snippets of copyrighted programs, or videos made by other users, without necessary authorizations." This is coming straight from the "YouTube Community Guidelines." understand now?

At 2/16/11 04:42 PM, RacistBassist wrote:

At 2/16/11 04:40 PM, LilSelena wrote:

Except your opinion is grounded in falsehoods and ignores currently existing laws.

please explain, what laws exactly?

Ever hear of Fair Use? And which copyright infringements have taken place exactly? Do I hear you bitching about the mass of companies that release Night of The Living Dead? Any of the Christmas songs that are released over and over?

Oh wait, that shit isn't copyrighted, how can it be stolen?

Music? That's not even what the discussion is about, music and a video clips are two different things. They can copyright that music because it's been a certain amount of years after the original artist dies. But seriously, how can you relate that topic with video clips? Please explain.

Except your opinion is grounded in falsehoods and ignores currently existing laws.

please explain, what laws exactly?

At 2/16/11 04:33 PM, Tetris wrote:

At 2/16/11 03:30 AM, LilSelena wrote: PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

Shut the fuck up I do what I want bitch.

Telling someone to "shut the fuck up" doesn't really do much..
it's an opinion, and you have yours, that's the way the world works.

At 2/16/11 04:21 PM, ARGNAGRAM wrote: I don't see how he steals any views at all. It's not like people go to rwj's channel expecting to watch a video in special. If someone wants to see this video, he'll look it up in youtube before having to search inbetween ray's videos. In fact, he probably gives lots of views to videos that would otherwise be pretty obscure by publicizing them.

People go to Ray to watch viral videos in general. He's gives a link to the original owner, but after seeing the clip in his video, no one would even bother to visit them. So the links are helpful, but still are pretty useless. Failblog does the very same thing, and making a video about their video doesn't bump up the original owner's views. It just bumps up Ray and Failblog's views. Publicizing the clips just steals views, and in some occasions, the video may be ripped and posted by different users..

At 2/16/11 09:03 AM, Kadian wrote: So basically OP, your super jelly of Ray?

YOU'VE CAUGHT ME, I'M TOTALLY JEALOUS OF RAY..

Hold on, I want to get something straight Kadian. In no way, shape, or form did I say I hated Ray personally or the success he gets from his videos. If you read the response in its entirety, you probably would have caught on to that. Before you stamp a thread as "jelly" or "jealous", please read all the valid points. Yes that's right, you'll actually have to read.

Most times out of ten when you insult a famous person, most responses will come off as jealous of their success (stigma). Kadian, I understand your mad, but it's an opinion for christ sake. At least back up your accusation, I'd love to hear your reasoning behind this.

Ray's popularity from viral videos has destroyed views from those viral videos, which he is intending to make popular. He's leaching off humor from regular people, and making money. I really don't know how many times I have to say that, but i'm sure there's someone out there that doesn't understand (or is such a big fan they ignore all reasoning).

It's a copyright slapping you right in the face, and most people just let it slide (because of his fame). It's like if you pull his video down, people will send you hate mail and respond negatively. You shouldn't be afraid to express your own opinion, and put Ray in his place. Also, I've said before I enjoy watching some of his videos, but still I find it wrong what he's doing. But to say i'm jealous with no real reasoning is pretty pathetic.

Hope this got through to you fellow viewer. Please respond back, your reasoning makes absolutely no sense..

At 2/16/11 04:04 AM, Cootie wrote: So, I know that a good number of you guys on here have fired a few guns in your lifetime. I am thinking about getting a new pistol, and I was just wondering what kind of rounds you guys prefer in a handgun or perhaps your experience with each of the popular rounds.

I have already fired a 9mm, .40, and .357

I have not fired a 10mm, .45, or .380

before you guys tell me I am not old enough to legally buy a firearm let me assure you that I know this. I will give my parents the money and they will buy it for me... how simple.

but I thought you liked DBZ? Goku doesn't use guns, neither does batman. just shoot beams from your hands, and the villains will keep piling up >:)

At 2/16/11 04:26 AM, masheenH3ad wrote: DO DO DO DOING YOUR MOM!!!

it's an okay song, but let's not get off topic youngin' X3

At 2/16/11 04:15 AM, PulsivePanda wrote: Basically what they're saying is that Ray uses most of the video for his stupid antics.
All the while creating a "Self meme" then creates things on his website or whatever to sell and create money off of.

I agree it's a terrible way of a living, and is all around just food for trolls.

I also agree about the copyright bit, it says in the 'Terms and Agreements' they are barely enforced for such youtube users like Ray.

Ray has no real punishment for doing what he does, so for the time being he can freely steal whatever he wants off of anyone and make money off their videos. It's insane, and I hope they do something about it because it really does make me mad >:(

At 2/16/11 03:49 AM, The-Great-One wrote:

At 2/16/11 03:35 AM, LilSelena wrote: no, since you put it that way. you probably didn't even read my entire response. i'm not going to comment on yours.

I did read your entire response. I read your little thing about copyright and I would like to counter that with the "fair use" clause. It's something reviewers use so they review others material. You have people like the Nostalgia Critic who reviews movies and gives away their endings mainly to make funny videos without permission from the people who have made the movies he's reviewed.

When you review something and show it in your show you don't need permission to do so. It's called "fair use" that's it.

Now I'm done with this thread, I tried to find an understanding in it, but you're just being an asshole.

you don't understand what "fair use" is. that might apply to games, but certainly not video content you got from someone without permission. do some research, come back, and maybe start a debate with me big boy :3

At 2/16/11 03:56 AM, Cootie wrote: I find his jokes corny and somewhat annoying.

and sexist and insensitive and repetitive. all the above :3

At 2/16/11 03:33 AM, The-Great-One wrote: So potentially every video game reviewer and every movie reviewer is a thief because they use content that doesn't belong to them even though they're giving their opinions on them.

Since i'm about to go to bed, i'll answer your question. read the second paragraph. if videogame reviewers showed the ending all the games they're reviewing, people wouldn't want to play them anymore. If they reviewed a movie and showed the ending, they wouldn't want to watch them anymore. He's spoiling the content he's reviewing and making people not want to watch the original videos. so basically he's stealing views, do you understand now?

At 2/16/11 03:40 AM, CAN-OF-SPAM wrote: Anyone remember the cute video of the fox licking that window? After rwj reviewed it the video was ripped and uploaded almost 26 times! Same exact vid, it just got uploaded by different assholes. His fanbase is nothing more than dumbasses who can't spell worth a shit and spout out unfunny memes and over used jokes EVERY FUCKING COMMENT.

I would feel sorry for the owner of that video :'( that's a cruel way to steal someone's views. Big people on newgrounds have their videos ripped all the time and put on youtube.

At 2/16/11 03:33 AM, The-Great-One wrote: So potentially every video game reviewer and every movie reviewer is a thief because they use content that doesn't belong to them even though they're giving their opinions on them.

no, since you put it that way. you probably didn't even read my entire response. i'm not going to comment on yours.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING

First off, I did read the post for RWJ, but seeing as this is a special case, I needed to know what people think of my take towards him. Please note that this is just an "opinion" and i'm sure he has big fan base, but i'm not in any way insulting the quality of his videos. However, the way he goes about making these videos is truly disguising.

Ray "reviews" viral videos which have made a big number of views on the internet. The problem that I see first is the word review. When you review a movie, you never show the entire film or spoil the ending. Reviewing a small clip that is 10 seconds long, there's almost no way of reviewing it without showing the entire clip. The point is, you show the entire clip and if you showed an entire movie in a review, there would be no reason to see the movie in theaters.

I also appreciate what Ray is doing, his channel is like a viral current events, but at the same time; he steals a lot of views from the original owner of the video. Now if he would get permission from the owner of the clips, I wouldn't see any problem with that, but he never even bothers to ask anyone. Ray is simply stealing content from other people, and submitting them in his videos (with also a comedy routine which I could care less about). Also realize that Ray is making tons and tons of cash, and most of the work isn't even his. Isn't that just disguising?

Now if I was in Ray's place, I would not show the clip at all. That's right, instead I would give the link to watch it yourself, and also I would say something very brief about it. If Ray was a flash artist, he could remake the videos in a flash format and then watch the real video from the link. I know that might sound dumb, and maybe he would not get that many satisfied viewers; but let's face it, most of his fans are dimwits, rather not even have them as fans at all.

If you make a funny video on the internet, people shouldn't be making money off your stuff. That's what we call copyright buddy, and if you ever have a video stolen from Ray, I would advise everyone to file a copyright claim and get his video taken down. It has happened once, and I'm very positive it'll happen more then once. Sure it won't effect his account being that he's an elite partner, but he won't be making money off of you or your video.

I would like to thank you for taking the time to read this, and I'm very much interested to see what opinions you have, most people would be sick of Ray (being that he's very infamous) but if you have some anger and need to rant on Ray; let the truth set you free! Get your opinions about him on here, and you all have a nice night.

Hey, you guys wanna get high? - Alice in Wonderland

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At 2/15/11 11:54 PM, zalecot wrote: Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy: "Always know where your towel is."

Hey, you guys wanna get high? - Alice in Wonderland

At 2/15/11 11:25 PM, Tekken9292 wrote:

At 2/2/11 11:19 AM, IronJesus wrote: I say we spam him so he stops

You really have absolutely no clue how trolls work, do you....

if you respond, it's a win. if you don't respond, it's a win. trolls tend to work like that, there's really no point in arguing with them. but sometimes you get very lucky, and meet someone who has horrible comebacks. so it goes from trolling you to trolling them, which is occasionally pretty fun :3

At 2/2/11 01:35 PM, Shade wrote:

At 2/2/11 01:33 PM, Love4Arias wrote: Get em girls!

There aren't any girls on the internet.

I'm a girl and also a youtube troll :D

At 2/15/11 06:15 PM, ifureadthisdie wrote: Justin Beiber WILL die (in fame) eventually.
I don't know if anyone noticed that Twilight is dead, and their fanbase is what Beiber has now.

It's a cycle, first the girls drool over it, then they get violent for it, and then completely forget it. Remember Corbin Bleu? PFF ME NEITHER!

So, who do you think will be the next thing stupid Tweens will shake the earth for?

well firstly, by acknowledging Justin Bieber, not only did you bring a community to rant about him, but you've probably made more fans for him. If you despise the Bieber with all your heart, just pretend like he doesn't even exist. most of us will agree that Justin's career will be very short lived, but that's old news.

the only reason a thread like this would spawn, is because the stupid movie called, "Never say Never" staring Justin Bieber that was released recently. I feel your pain, but still realize that his fan base will soon grow out of him like a fad, and will move on to better things. Take my advice, acknowledge nothing about him, and this should do you better in the long run.

At 2/13/11 02:41 PM, Space-Whale wrote: Sometimes, OP, you need to learn to shut your tits.

"shut your tits?" ..that's just dumb. shut your mouth would have been a better choice.

Stamper would never reply to this.. he's a legend, and does whatever he wants to

At 2/13/11 11:58 AM, Idiot-Finder wrote: Ever have a feeling that your parents thinks that you're still an innocent child and would try to shield you from many things they believe are inappropriate?

I think they do. I can't even have my own Facebook because of how strict they are...YET I can have a newgrounds account o.O? how's that supposed to work?

At 2/12/11 07:20 PM, Supasang wrote: Stick a dildo in the hole so the vibrating removes it and it gets bnack in there to act as a plug.

buddy, i think you may be in the wrong forum. the dildo chat is next door :/

At 2/12/11 08:22 PM, Ultraconsole wrote: Sorry if I seem like I am just whoring myself out here on newgrounds, I actually want to know what people think!

Maybe people would care if you had more then 1 post. just saying