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At 10/11/12 07:24 PM, Warforger wrote:

You do realize that politicians won't give a shit if you don't vote right? In fact many politicians particularly Republicans try to keep people from voting.

Just because you might not mind letting your bussy get diddled by your favorite politicians does not mean actively withholding your vote is a bad idea until they clean up there collective act.

At 10/11/12 04:54 PM, kakalxlax wrote:

At 10/6/12 01:30 AM, leanlifter1 wrote:
Good for the Teacher as Romney is a dumb ass and even worse he is an extremely dangerous idiot with extremely Fascists beliefs. about why Romney is a dangerous man to freedom as we know it.

change "Romney" for "Hugo Chavez" and ill agree

The only difference between Romney/Obamney & Chavez is the public's ability to wear the blinders as they are all bought and working for the same money and working toward the same endgame.

At 10/11/12 02:31 PM, stonecold-basilisk wrote:

mostly crazy conspiracy nuts

Well most people thought like you when they world was to be flat or that airplanes were impossible to fly etc .. in short it is extremely ignorant to dam people just because there opinions and ideologies differ from what is popular and easy to digest.

At 10/11/12 01:57 PM, morefngdbs wrote:

Take away the demand for these products & it decimates our economy.

Na the demand will never decimate although our economy might slow down a bit until it regulates again when China starts consuming our natural resources when the Americans across the boarder go under and they can no longer pay for them. Canada supply's the US with only 10% of there total annual Oil needs but represents 50% of Canada total annual Oil production.

At 10/11/12 01:24 PM, TheMason wrote:

At 10/11/12 01:20 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: I agree although I have not done research on the "QE3" I wholeheartedly agree on the getting into bed part LOL and the old way of thinking 07 and prior.

See...not all fascists are bad? lol

We take part's and pieces from all the "ism's" of the past and current that have proven to work infallibly in practice and that are agreed upon by that vast majority and then slap a label on it let's just call it "thenewism" and this could be the best system human's ever devised to date IMHO because there are good part's even to communism etc.... and many things we can learn and use from bygone civilizations.

At 10/11/12 12:44 PM, TheMason wrote:

But it is based upon norms, standards, and school board policy.

Actually a teachers performance is based upon how many of there students pass the approved curriculum set out by the school board and not on some isolated and bombastic news cartels performance on how well they publicized a story on a teacher and student that may or may not be true. This issue if it is even one is a matter between the child's legal guardian's, The Teacher/s involved, The Principle & the school board and not some bloody media news cartel looking for ratings.

At 10/11/12 12:48 PM, TheMason wrote:

Sorry...but you're grossly underinformed here. The global financial crisis has shaken their faith in getting into bed with us. Further policies such as QE3 has effected the value of their currency domestically. Leaders of the CCP are nervous about our financial health and policies. You're thinking sooo 2007. :)

I agree although I have not done research on the "QE3" I wholeheartedly agree on the getting into bed part LOL and the old way of thinking 07 and prior.

At 10/11/12 12:39 PM, TheMason wrote:

To be so dismissive of "policy" is absurd.

1) "Ethics" - More specific the lack of ethics in politics today is the issue and as well my preferred branch of which is "secular" and "Secular Ethics" are the basis on which all decisions big or small in government must be made upon and I believe there is no room for debate on this that is unless you are dabbling in the collusion of theistic opinions in politics of which I highly do not recommend as religion & money need to stay out of politics IMO.

2) "Arbitrary" - As in most of the policies created within politics and government.

3) "policy" is absurd. For the most part I must agree that most policies are absurd as policy that is not based upon "secular ethics" is unmoral, Unjust, and just illogical at the very core.

A contract for Government and Politicians to operate and abide by derived on a moral code based in "Secular Ethics" is what I am suggest as one possible corrective step towards a better civilization with more happiness and equality for all people of the world. Therefor with that being said what I am suggesting is that Governmental & Political policy not based upon "Secular ethics" is absurd.

At 10/11/12 11:42 AM, CaveStoryGrounds wrote:

"What matters are the polices"

Funny how you never hear anyone speak of Ethics in politics only arbitrary "policy" that voters have absolutely no control over for 4 years.

At 10/11/12 11:29 AM, TheKlown wrote: The Teacher is a moron, and I'm sick of people pretending that these type of Teachers deserve a teaching job.

Teaching performance is not based upon your OPINION.

At 10/11/12 11:09 AM, Camarohusky wrote:

You kidding?! China LOVES the US debt. The US debt that China holds allows China to lower its currency value and undercut the rest of the world. If China were to ask for the US to pay back its debt, they would be crippling their exports, and thus destroying their economy. China's ownership of our debt is of no worry to us at all.

Until China stops sending the 90% of the goods you Americans take advantage of everyday.

At 10/11/12 05:58 AM, TheKlown wrote:

At 10/10/12 09:25 AM, leanlifter1 wrote: Nope if the Teacher is "A good one" why throw her out of a failing educational system when it desperately needs good teachers now more than ever and you know what Teachers are Humans to.

The Teacher has already proven she isn't a good Teacher and that she probably has some racist beliefs as well.

There is no facts as to weather this teacher is proficient or not at there profession.

At 10/11/12 09:16 AM, Jmayer20 wrote:

PS. leanlifter1 do you actually care about these issues or do you just like to complain. Because you never give insightful info or make interesting points.

Seems like a personal sentiment & opinion for the leanlifter1 thread.

Seems like another way to effectively dumb down the American population into further subservience.

At 10/11/12 08:54 AM, Jmayer20 wrote:

This begs the question what is the real reason they are against it. The answer their religion.

Religion and money need to both get the hell out of politics all together and until they do politics will always be a clusterfuck.

At 10/4/12 11:14 PM, orangebomb wrote:

At 10/4/12 03:06 PM, Pygmaelion wrote: to get rid of the Department of Education is so that they can teach Creationism to our children.

If you want to learn about creationism, then go to Sunday School or a private Christian academy.

No that's OK as I have no want or need to bring in the "Fascist Utopia" that many of them delusionals speak of with there palms pointed toward the sky. Perhaps I should just read the definition of "creationism" as I really have just a tiny grasp on just what it exactly is but I know the consumerist morons that are being produced in society today by the public school system are most likely just as terrible for the potential future of true freedom.

At 10/10/12 11:14 PM, Warforger wrote: You know I was a skeptic of leanlifter at first, but his constant dodging of people's arguments and constant elitism has convinced me. We really do live in a fascist society where the government can tax people and the president sends soldiers to war. We should start a revolution by not voting at all because it will send a message to ELECTED officials that they should do a better job if they want the vote of people who won't vote.

Precisely as voting is rewarding the system and if you do not agree with some core foundations of the system you are voting for then you must withhold your vote and voice your opinion on the things that went wrong, the broken promises, the false unjust wars etc ... and what they need to do in order to EARN your vote back.

At 10/10/12 03:47 PM, Dawnslayer wrote:

At 10/10/12 02:46 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: It's not about ONE person or ONE dictator regime it is about creating a new system from the roots for the people by the people.

Because that plan has worked so well everywhere it's been tried for the last hundred years.

It hasn't as Humans have been farmed and slaved but just under the illusion of freedom for the illusion creates better productivity and more profit for our slave farmers/masters and global elite. In others words we have never EVER seen a world or even a simple country run for the people by the people.

At 10/10/12 10:20 PM, thegarbear14 wrote:

At 10/10/12 08:12 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:

At 10/10/12 08:11 PM, Cootie wrote:

At 10/10/12 07:02 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
I really agree and I must admit that the US has the most unwitting sycophantic "patriots" more so that I have noticed than any other country in the world.

lol not, that is not true at all.

Key words "most" "unwitting" "sycophantic" "patriots"

At 10/10/12 06:32 PM, Warforger wrote:

To be fair it might get confusing mainly because the US had been trying to overthrow Saddam Hussein starting in 1991. Hell In 1998 Congress passed a resolution basically saying they will get rid of Saddam Hussein.

Overthrow Saddam LOL to my understanding the American's were willingly supplying his Military with WMD's and allegedly Saddam told them to fuck off at some point and that's when he became "Officially" a Terrorist of the states.

At 10/10/12 08:11 PM, Cootie wrote:

At 10/10/12 07:02 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
I really agree and I must admit that the US has the most unwitting sycophantic "patriots" more so that I have noticed than any other country in the world.

North Korea or even Japan?

Not even close.

At 10/10/12 05:20 PM, Jmayer20 wrote: Lets say we found out what the terrorists were plotting before they hijacked those planes and we arrested them before they could do it. If the terrorist attack on 911 never happened how different do you think the world would be? What things do you think would or would not have happened? Do you think we would have still invaded Iraq and Afghanistan? Please explain.

There was never any conclusive evidence that is was not the US Government that planned the attack on the Trade Towers that fateful day :-(

At 10/10/12 05:05 PM, stonecold-basilisk wrote: Here's something I hate: I hate it when I'm on an internet forum and then everyone starts flaming each other by insulting each other's country. Patriotism sucks. Can't we all just be global brothers? All of our countries have flaws and committed unspeakable crimes against humanity in the past. All of our countries are run by a government of imbeciles and have silly traditions.

Why do we put our own country first when we have internet and can speak to people from any country?

I really agree and I must admit that the US has the most unwitting sycophantic "patriots" more so that I have noticed than any other country in the world.

At 10/10/12 04:37 PM, naronic wrote: http://www.pornhub.com/event/save-the-boobs

Do you think this is distasteful and sexualizing something that doesn't need to be sexualized, do you think this is a publicity stunt or do you think pornhub legitimately wants to help? Do you think the money should be accepted? Thoughts?

This does not belong in the Politics thread and give your head a shake. Hopefully a mod will lock and or delete this useless thread LOL.

At 10/10/12 04:16 PM, TheMason wrote:

At 10/9/12 06:18 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: All Taxes are unconstitutional and literally against the law that is until they rewrote the law book to suite the need's of the Fascist Nationalist agenda. See it's a fairly simple philosophy in Taxing the middle class until it disappears.

I did a text search of the Constitution for the term 'tax' and cut and pasted the relevent passages here. But pretty much...taxes ARE constitutional.

and you never once thought for even a moment that they might have re ratified the rule book to suite there agenda. Keep drinking the koolaid.

At 10/9/12 07:14 PM, JoS wrote: Is this supposed to be like those "You might be a redneck if..." jokes?

You might be a fascist if....

Also if you think Fascism is a joke you might want to check yourself into a mental health ward at the hospital.

At 10/10/12 02:06 PM, 24901miles wrote:

I didn't say it's infallible, but it's better than anything you could come up with.

It's not about ONE person or ONE dictator regime it is about creating a new system from the roots for the people by the people.

At 10/10/12 01:56 PM, 24901miles wrote:

At 10/10/12 12:01 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:

At 10/10/12 09:39 AM, 24901miles wrote:

Oh, wow. Obama has a background in Wall Street? He shouldn't be in power because he promised to end the wars?

That's not the point the point is you have a Dictator for a 4 year reign. When the dictator or will call him the "figure head" to be more sensitive to the sheep lye's about the things they will do when they are in power and tell the people want they want to here just to get into power that is a big suckin problem if they do not follow through because a fraud can do allot of damage in 4 years and there is not a dam thing you or anyone can do about it.

We don't live in Super Fairy Mystically Ideal Candyland

That the best you've got to come up with in response to your preferred system of lying Dictatorship for 4 year terms. The system you are sticking up for is not infallible like you claim.

At 10/10/12 09:39 AM, 24901miles wrote:

Oh, wow. Obama has a background in Wall Street? He shouldn't be in power because he promised to end the wars?

That's not the point the point is you have a Dictator for a 4 year reign. When the dictator or will call him the "figure head" to be more sensitive to the sheep lye's about the things they will do when they are in power and tell the people want they want to here just to get into power that is a big suckin problem if they do not follow through because a fraud can do allot of damage in 4 years and there is not a dam thing you or anyone can do about it.

At 10/10/12 11:01 AM, BumFodder wrote: These conspiracy theories about Libya are as stupid as hell. Dont people know their history? If they did then it would be clearly obvious why they wanted Gaddafi gone, as well as wanting to install a democracy which would be economically beneficial for themselves.

This thread is not about so called "Conspiracy theories" this thread is about Libya's move to a "Gold Standard".