2,229 Forum Posts by "leanlifter1"
At 12/1/12 12:45 PM, Jmayer20 wrote: Republicans need to shut up about taxes. If you want a big military then you need high taxes, simple as that.
I am not exactly sure what this stament really means. I don't think most sane minded people want war at all or high taxes for that matter.
Love is love. See Marriage is just a legal binding contract between you and your spouse and "the government" is not the one to choose who you claim to love.
Anybody is allowed in the Military so long as they can compleate the required basic training heck even a monkey should be acce[ted in the Military. Equal Opportunity Employer anyone.
I know most people here are under the impression that I hate the States when this is simply a misconception I hereby present to you what I like about America.
At 12/8/12 02:13 AM, fmn335 wrote: What would the world be like if the U.S.A never was created?
Less Fascist and more skinny !
At 12/10/12 12:27 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: just saving up some money to buy a Remington 870.
what do you guys think?
Whats the purpose ?
At 12/5/12 09:00 PM, poxpower wrote:
There's endless books written by wealthy people on how to get rich
For $19.95 I will show you how to get rich quick in my best selling book that's already sold Millions LOL. Of course those charlatans they always fail to tell you it's the book that got them rich and not the theoretical scam based on econ that inspired their best seller LOL.
At 12/5/12 07:38 PM, 4761 wrote:
Then it is agreed America is/was NEVER A DEMOCRACY.
At 12/5/12 12:24 PM, Camarohusky wrote:
Yes, manufacturing as an industry adds a great deal of economic value as well as national security value to the nation.
Value and nationally securing a countries Economy comes with working together to enrich other countries and in the process not just thinking about number 1. To secure the US Economy and disregard others is a sure way to complete economic dissonance. Don't believe me look at what happened in your own backyard in the Citys Of Detroit, Toledo, and Flint those are prime examples of what happens when you disregard, segregate and forget about responsibility to the people.
At 12/5/12 11:26 AM, theburningliberal wrote:At 12/5/12 11:14 AM, leanlifter1 wrote: At a minimum manufacturing industry is and will be replaced completely by automation which is why people in that industry get paid less and less because they are expendable and could be replaced by machines at any given time. Machines don't need things like Health Care benefits, Pension Plans, Vacations, pay increases, and machines don't complain. These previously denoted facts are contributors to why a monetary system is at the minimum illegitimate as the service and manufacturing industry becomes closer to full Automation each year and more and more workers get permanently laid off. Unemployable workers/service industry means that most of America will no longer have any sort of buying power therefor breaking the chain of Employer and Employee "Cyclical Consumerism" and this is not the fault of modernization it is the fault of the monetary system not being able to keep up with the changing times as Industry goes "Full Automation" which will enable far more Americans than ever to actually truly get a change to enjoy Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness".Oh, lord, does everything come back to 'debt-based fiat currency'? You are nearly as bad as the bible-thumpers who argued that Sandy was God's response to gay marriage in this country. Go buy a 2x4, wrap it in barbed wire, and dildo yourself with it vigorously until your problems are resolved. I promise, it won't hurt... much.
What I said was nothing to do with debt based currency directly at leased as the point was that Automation undermines the monetary system as a whole and not the economy.
Your assuming that people will magically still have income after their good manufacturing job has been given to Yo Jin Will, who will work for pennies on the dollar 23 hours a day. No, people still need jobs in this economy, whether you like it or not.But, I do agree with you that the golden age of manufacturing has passed to some extent.Nope as full automation do to rapidly advancing technologies take the burden off of the people to produce in turn giving them time to purse there dreams instead of labor for income at a dead end job with a no pension for 35 years.
If you read my post and then you would clearly understand that what I am suggesting is that money is holding industry back and not the other way around. You are stuck on labor for income because you seem you think that is the definition of economics when what I am suggesting is that economics is inherently illegitimate because of the monetary system it is based on.
A Job I might add that has no relevance in society other than to keep people stuck in the realm of labor for income to keep the dog and pony show going.You mean, oh my god, people working actually contributes to the economy?
It's not contributing to anything but ruling class self entitlement and greed and not to the peoples right to "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness".
I repeat, go dildo yourself with a barbed wire bat.
Dually noted.
At 12/5/12 10:41 AM, theburningliberal wrote:
I am not sure if I agree with you that manufacturing workers should be paid less.
At a minimum manufacturing industry is and will be replaced completely by automation which is why people in that industry get paid less and less because they are expendable and could be replaced by machines at any given time. Machines don't need things like Health Care benefits, Pension Plans, Vacations, pay increases, and machines don't complain. These previously denoted facts are contributors to why a monetary system is at the minimum illegitimate as the service and manufacturing industry becomes closer to full Automation each year and more and more workers get permanently laid off. Unemployable workers/service industry means that most of America will no longer have any sort of buying power therefor breaking the chain of Employer and Employee "Cyclical Consumerism" and this is not the fault of modernization it is the fault of the monetary system not being able to keep up with the changing times as Industry goes "Full Automation" which will enable far more Americans than ever to actually truly get a change to enjoy Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness".
But, I do agree with you that the golden age of manufacturing has passed to some extent.
Nope as full automation do to rapidly advancing technologies take the burden off of the people to produce in turn giving them time to purse there dreams instead of labor for income at a dead end job with a no pension for 35 years. A Job I might add that has no relevance in society other than to keep people stuck in the realm of labor for income to keep the dog and pony show going.
At 12/4/12 12:19 AM, JMHX wrote:At 12/4/12 12:13 AM, leanlifter1 wrote:That head could pop you with a Predator from the skyyyyyyyyyyy
It is neither in support nor against it is a fact Obama is a Figure Head.
Some how I am not in the leased bit intimidated but I do take pity upon those who think that exalting terrorism in the form of an attempt/implied Missile attack is a courageous act when it is a cowardly act of terrorism.
At 12/4/12 12:04 PM, JMHX wrote:
Jesus fucking Christ leanlifter, try reading for context for once instead of skimming a paragraph and shooting off some of your kneejerk anti-government shit. If you actually shut the fuck up and listened you'd find we actually agree on quite a few things.
You are still ignoring the fact of Fiat currency & Inflation.
At 12/4/12 10:53 AM, poxpower wrote: Your first clue to this article being stupid is that it's called "21 Ways Rich People Think Differently" which sounds like it was lifted from Cracked.com.
I was thinking National Enquirer myself but fair enough LOL.
At 12/4/12 09:44 AM, JMHX wrote: whistleblowing violates the Espionage Act and endangers national security
I bet you are the first in Line for Government issue flu shots, Koolaid and RFID devices.
At 12/4/12 08:08 AM, SenatorJohnDean wrote:
Your choice of low rent food aside, this is hardly was I was talking about.
"Even if I had a Billion dollars I would still eat Kraft Dinner but I would just eat more :-)" which is a way of saying that I as a person do not change even if my income does not that I have anything against KD.
I'm sorry, having lived around LA, I just know too many immigrants who started with some shit job and now they live in Beverly Hills, so all the whining above just sounds like a bunch of entitled spoiled suburban kids who will never work past the point of immediate comfort.
It's funny you talk about other peoples success but never mention your own or back up your non seance claims with any functional proof. No offense intended just reality. Just because someone gets credit cards, High Interest Bank Loans, Tax breaks and other governmental affirmative action program benefits so they can in turn barley afford to maintain the illusion to look like they made it is not a measure of success it is a measure of how generally shallow and greedy people in L.A. are.
There are always "risks" that can be taken that don't cost millions of dollars. Single failures do not bankrupt families if they are taken with a strategy. Geez. You guys just all extrapolated to the extreme rather than thinking of the real world.
How about this one... While you manage your money and chase other peoples ideal of dreams I will be living my life my dream as I see fit for me and my family is that ok with you uncle penny bags ?
Everybody who is investing time in putting artistic content on Newgrounds is taking a risk.
Not the way I see it but I respect your ideal.
If you are not a professional, you have risked the time that it took to create that thing.
Again not the way I see it.
You could have been at McDonalds earning $6 during that hour you spent drawing or animating or whatever,
LOL Mc Donald's is not the answer for anybody. Also FYI in Canada at leased you can pick empty bottles and fairly easily make around $200 in 8hrs if you have the work ethic and now how of where and when to pick in turn further undermining and devaluing the retards that own and run McDicks. Personally my time is priceless but when I do work for the union I charge a nominal base fee of $35hr plus $100 a day live out allowance and mileage and even still I feel ripped off for my time.
Those who are able to take these kinds of risks and combine them with talent and a bit of salesmanship can become rich.
Um sounds like some pseudo rhetorical BS that somebody without any actual skills, knowledge, aptitude and wherewithal would try and say.
At 12/4/12 12:02 AM, WizMystery wrote:At 12/3/12 11:54 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: Figure Head - a person who is head of a group, company, etc., in title but actually has no real authority or responsibilityNot sure if that's in support of my argument or against it. Would you mind being a little less esoteric?
It is neither in support nor against it is a fact Obama is a Figure Head.
At 12/3/12 11:48 PM, WizMystery wrote:At 12/3/12 07:57 PM, Warforger wrote: But my point is, why do we seem to base our perception of a politician more on his/her gaffe's and failures rather than their actual backgrounds?Em, because running a country isn't like running a business?
Figure Head - a person who is head of a group, company, etc., in title but actually has no real authority or responsibility
At 12/3/12 10:17 PM, Revo357912 wrote:At 12/3/12 09:22 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:At 12/3/12 08:55 PM, Revo357912 wrote:Yes, but the problem is not whether your a law abiding citizen, its the potential mass harm you could bring about the general population.Is it too much to say that allowing citizens to purchase thousands of bullets and obtain stockpiles of arms without being observed too carefully?I have 30 firearms and 10,000 something of various bullet calibers should I be observed when I am a law abbiding citizen? when you could be locating and going after the illegal dealers who sell criminals firearms? hmmm?
What if a Gangster organization like the Hells Angels and affiliates or the "Government" disarm said individual would that not be equivalent to an ironic fallacy ?
At 12/3/12 06:45 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:At 12/3/12 06:37 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: No it is not it is fact as correct me if I am wrong but the US has some of the most lenient guns laws in the world as well as highest gun related crime rate. Heck some bank in texas was even giving away a free gun when you start a new account with them not joke and don't ask me to cite the info LOL.yeah because the rest of the world has strict handgun or rifle (Semi or hunting) laws. plus they are in compliance with UN disarmarment policies. and they did it once with cars to buy one get a car! but you had to be 21 or over.
Ah the UN how I love that ideal however it is perhaps something to start a new thread about.
What does overthrowing the government have to do with Military when it's supposed to be the Civilians right and responsibility hence why the Constitution enables you guns. Police/Military Oath keeping is a Bullshit ideal as much as the Civilians overthrowing their corrupt Government with Guns is a Bullshit ideal. Both ideals are supposed to be upheld but both ideals never are and here in lye the true responsibility/reality and ideal behind owning a gun as a citizen of the US&A.I was gonna put in the prev post that the Military is supposed to help and will not interfere with Civilian overthrow because they would help.
I would hope the Military would help accomplish what is right but I for one being exposed to the Military indoctrination intimately understand that YOU WILL DO AS YOU ARE TOLD when a member of the Canadian Forces.
( A well regulated Militia) and yeah the oath thing is bullshit but its in the constitution, plus alot of servicemen wouldn't fire on civilians.
Which civilians would servicemen not fire upon because as far as I know they do kill civilians and this is quantifiable fact.
In Canada in My Town of 55 thousand the Police are averaging a response time of under a min although the geographic area each car has to cover it of coarse very small making response time very quick. I rather take a bullet myself rather than take somebody's life and have to live with the mental effects of being a murdering dirt bag because I was the one that put myself in the position to kill not the victim.I am talking about big cities where all the crime is and areas (rural etc) where the police are ineffective. and rather defending yourself than take a bullet is retarded Self Defense isn't murder there guy
As I said "An once of prevention is worth a pound of cure" and that rational is why I moved my ass to a small Canadian City/Town. However that being said if you are stuck in a Detroit,Toledo,Flint type of city than I suggest you get you ass out of that fucked up realm before you end up a statistic. That being said I have lived in hard Canadian cities in the past and I never had the need for a weapon thankfully.
At 12/3/12 07:28 PM, Warforger wrote:
Yah that;s partly why terrorists groups have lost support. You can't exactly tell people you're doing God's will when you're killing innocents.
Same can be said of the US Military !
At 12/3/12 07:40 PM, 4761 wrote: If America is truly a democracy
I will have to stop you right there as USA is not a Democracy it is a Republic. Even Canada is not a Democracy it is a very benevolent dictatorship Canadians don't pick the leaders the three main parties pick who they can vote for and make sure that no independents makes it into the debates. Canadians live under a kinder gentler machine gun hand. As for Mexico and South America I really don't have a real good clue as I have never lived there or even visited but i am under the impression they are under a straight up gangsta dictatorship.
At 12/3/12 06:15 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:At 12/3/12 06:09 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: That's right as you are advocating for public ownership of guns and the crime comes as an statistically proven effect.thats the biggest bullshit statement ever.
No it is not it is fact as correct me if I am wrong but the US has some of the most lenient guns laws in the world as well as highest gun related crime rate. Heck some bank in texas was even giving away a free gun when you start a new account with them not joke and don't ask me to cite the info LOL.
It's also your right and responsibility to overthrow corrupt government which is the rational behind the constitutional right to gun ownership but we know that will never happen as the oligarchy controls the Police the Military and the people.not true actually there are protocols in the military it is the oath to protect THE PEOPLE AND THE CONSTITUTION when you get sworn in.
What does overthrowing the government have to do with Military when it's supposed to be the Civilians right and responsibility hence why the Constitution enables you guns. Police/Military Oath keeping is a Bullshit ideal as much as the Civilians overthrowing their corrupt Government with Guns is a Bullshit ideal. Both ideals are supposed to be upheld but both ideals never are and here in lye the true responsibility/reality and ideal behind owning a gun as a citizen of the US&A.
Nothing wrong with keeping a shot gun around if you live in the sticks to ward off Bears and the like but in the cities it is the job of the Police to take care of the Corporal punishment of the gangs and retards. If we extend the people the right to engage in vigilantly "Corporal punishment" then we undermine the ideal of upholding a safe and equal society. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"oh please the police really? I can order a pizza and then call the police guess who will get there faster?
In Canada in My Town of 55 thousand the Police are averaging a response time of under a min although the geographic area each car has to cover it of coarse very small making response time very quick. I rather take a bullet myself rather than take somebody's life and have to live with the mental effects of being a murdering dirt bag because I was the one that put myself in the position to kill not the victim.
At 12/3/12 05:43 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:At 12/3/12 11:19 AM, leanlifter1 wrote:yeah and japan is a horrible model for your arguement because citizen their were disarmed 70 years ago.
That's because gun laws are far to lenient in the US and the streets are flooded with guns as a result as opposed to say Japan. America and it's gun related crime related crime is the worse example you can use to advocate for public gun ownership.
Actually they are allowed Shot Guns but it is highly regulated by the Police as it should be.
and I am not advocating crime through public ownership,
That's right as you are advocating for public ownership of guns and the crime comes as an statistically proven effect.
I promote public ownership because ITS OUR RIGHT.
It's also your right and responsibility to overthrow corrupt government which is the rational behind the constitutional right to gun ownership but we know that will never happen as the oligarchy controls the Police the Military and the people.
that doesn't make us fascist or evil. the crime with firearms in the US is mostly attributed to gangs in areas with heavy gun control legislation Like Cali and illinois
Nothing wrong with keeping a shot gun around if you live in the sticks to ward off Bears and the like but in the cities it is the job of the Police to take care of the Corporal punishment of the gangs and retards. If we extend the people the right to engage in vigilantly "Corporal punishment" then we undermine the ideal of upholding a safe and equal society. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"
At 12/3/12 03:49 PM, Silverdust wrote: Limiting the vote to a select people (especially with IQ testing, or similar approaches) would quickly lead to fraudulent activity.
You are implying that it is not currently fraudulent. IMO elections are inherently illegitimate by design as in practice only a very narrow percentage of the population gets to have a vote aside from the many that don't care to.
Recent election cycles have shown that if someone has the power to manipulate the vote, they will at least attempt to.
Can you please cite your sources in where you based this claim ?
Making unnecessary changes to the democratic process can only complicate the problem.
Changes to make the system of voting more accurate and better is quite the opposite of unnecessary.
Plus, testing may not always be accurate or available for everyone.
The Government can make IQ testing available to potential voters although IQ testing is a moot and highly asinine ideal.
I think the main issue lies with the money in elections, not the people.
Money in general is a problem and money in politics creates Oligarchy.
The United States has done a fine job in the past, electing fully capable Presidents.
That is a matter of opinion especial considering the economic depression the US is currently got itself into and it's been a long time coming.
At 12/3/12 01:54 PM, JMHX wrote: LOL. I KNEW you would post something from ASPO.
On ASPO's "Peak Oil Date:
- Initially projected to occur by the year 1997.
- Pushed back to 2000
- Then 2010
- Then 2006
- Then 2005
- Then 2010 again
They also tend to ignore how the global recession dented global demand for oil and gas, leading to a slump in refining due to lack of aggregate demand. PEAK OIL INDEED, SIR.
The fact remains that Oil dependency is on the rise while the ability to fuel the demand has diminished. You cannot refute oil prices.
At 12/3/12 01:41 PM, poxpower wrote:
Realistically, if you could restrict the vote to like the 20% of the smartest, most educated and aware part of the population, it's very likely you'd get better outcomes.
Who or what decides on the makeup of said 20% ?
So it seems you could indeed have a giant chunk of the population who are not allowed to vote.
There are a huge chunk of the population that that do not for a staggering amount of reasons.
At 12/3/12 01:31 PM, JMHX wrote:At 12/3/12 01:14 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:It must be very boring for you, knowing everything with absolute certainty in spite of experiential evidence to the contrary.At 12/3/12 01:09 PM, JMHX wrote: I'm all for demolishing barriers to trade and thus lowering the cost of fuels and other goods in the process.The cost of Oil will never go down it will always be on the incline due to post "Peak Oil" which nobody seems to want to factor into reality.
Obama will not Dictate to you that we have reached Peak oil I mean why would he ?
http://www.oildecline.com/
I can use graphs to
At 12/3/12 01:09 PM, JMHX wrote: I'm all for demolishing barriers to trade and thus lowering the cost of fuels and other goods in the process.
The cost of Oil will never go down it will always be on the incline due to post "Peak Oil" which nobody seems to want to factor into reality.
At 12/3/12 12:29 AM, Revo357912 wrote: Another thing worth mentioning is that not many people want to kill the president of Uruguay as, say, the president of the United States, so living in a hut on an open farmland is also acceptable because of that.
Wouldn't say people want to kill the pres of the US as most people know another one will just continue the agenda. The presidency in America can learn allot about sacrifice from the countries that they have been fucking up the ass for the last century.
