599 Forum Posts by "lapslf"
Allright, I'm getting tired of all the quoting, so I'll just type.
First of all. Jimme boy, you accuse me of not using valid arguments, while you have replies like "No." or just say the exact same thing you said before. Or, even more stupid, you just say how dumb I am without even discussing my point.
Second, you say that it's complete nonsense when I say warmonging and ethnocentrism is just as embarassing as imperialism, because I don't explain it, while I haven't heard you explaining why imperialism is more embarassing.
Third, you say American wars contribute something to society. That's the most stupid thing I've heard in a long time. Just take a look at Iraq and Vietnam, mkay?
Fourth, you say the US is also after columbian terrorists. First of all, I think the government tends to mix drug dealers with terorrists. Second, they do it on a much, much smaller scale than muslim terrorists.
Fifht, about the indian stuff: Genocide is genocide. Fine, perhaps the Spanish killed more, so that's more embarassing, but killing Indians is still embarassing as it is, no matter how litte.
Sixth, I did not denie the impact on your economy would be huge, I only said you think an economic malaise in the US is worse than Chinese living under tiranny. You can't denie that.
Seventh, My skull is just fine.
Eighth, you say the US is more democratic than Canada. That's the most moronic thing I've ever read. Just because of your election system you are already less democratic.
Nineth, I don't care what you do in the present, your history is still embarassing. You can't unembarassed that. Perhaps in your eyes, but not in mine. Besides, the stuff the US has done over the years has only made it more embarassing.
Tenth, you don't believe me when I talk about racism in the US? How about that stuff they did in the vietnam war, sending black people to the most dangerous location, so they would get killed first. The same thing happens today in Iraq: Immigrants who sign up for the army get sent to the most dangerous positions in Iraq.
Eleventh, what the Netherlands did to make other stuff "unembarassing" as you call it? Well, we have a great drugs policy, and a good economy, and we don't waste all our tax money in the military, like a certain country in the west tends to do.
At 11/28/03 06:42 PM, Jimsween wrote: First of all, how does that make me a facist?
If you don't think unjustified, senseless violence is a bad thing, than you are pretty close to a facist.
I just brought up the cold war, I didn't say it was thier fault.
Yes you did. You said: "Russia - Cold war". Well, call me stupid, but it seems you are insinuating that Russia caused the cold war with that sentence. But, by denying you said that you're actually just giving in, so that's okay.
Stuff about France.
Yes, they fought in WO I. So what? I think you had a lot more wars you only started to look after your own interest.
Which would make them warmongerers, and ethnocentrists. Not near as embarrasing as being an imperialist.
I'd say it's just as embarassing.
Fine, spanish inquisition, crusades, slaughter of indians, ect.
Hm, the US is in some sort of crusade right now too. They say they are after terrorists, but so far, they are only after muslim terrorists. Never heard of terrorists with an other religion?
I would go on, but those are pretty much the major things. And one mans opinions are not a bad thing, nor something to be embarrased about, just becauise he may be wrong in our point of view does not mean he is bad.
If you think gay marriage is wrong, than you are BAD. Than you are just an intolerant asshole.
First of all, the spanish slave trade spanned the entire world, and they were the ones that enslaved the Africans in the first place, the American slave trade was hardly "damn big", espescially when compared to Spain's. And it is wrong, but the scale of how big it is changes how embarrased one would be. You should think about what the debate is before you go off on a tangent, killing 100 indians is not nearly as embarrasing as killing 100,000.
Let me ask you a question: How do you think all those black people ended up in the US? I don't know exactly how many black people there are in the US, but it must be millions. Perhaps the US did not sell much slaves, but they sure as hell bought quite a few. And the US did kill very much Indians. Maybe Spain killed more, but you killed a lot.
Again, you aren't stressing this enough, our ENTIRE economy depends on China, almost all of our products come from there, without China, our economy WOULD COLLAPSE. Not go down say 10k in GDP, I mean go from 30k, to 4k. And the lives of one billion chinese people are not in danger, only a few of thier lives are in danger. After all, the purpose of a country is to protect the lives of it's own people, not to go on a crusade against all that is evil, if you neglect your own people's lives, then you end up like Canada.
You're still saying economy is more important than human lives. And maybe not all Chinese people's lifes are in danger, but you have no right to complain about they're tiranny when you are the one that benefits from it.
I never said anything about a war dumbass.Then how would you propose we solve it? If we put sanctions on them, we not only ruin our own citizens lives, but we also ruin millions of Chinese people's lives. I guess you didn't really think this out did you?
Funny how you Yanks think: Problems in another country? Two options: sanctions or war. Just look at Iraq. Ever heard of diplomacy? Okay, now you might wanna hear a diplomatic solution. How about giving the Chinese some trade benefits if they agree on some better Human right laws?
Than why is the communistic party still ruling China? Those "democratic parties" in China can't do shit, but hey, if the US would have any more complain they can kiss their trade goodbye.Maybe you should try reading the news sometime, we complain alot, so does the entire UN, but... CHINA DOESN'T CARE!!! They dont listen to what we ask them to do, the only thing they would listen to is a direct threat. And as stated before, that just makes things worse.
Well, you just said thank's to the complaints from the US they had those great political parties. Right now you are contradicting yourself.
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Go fuck yourself.
So you're saying you can only be "interesting" by going into a lot of wars? Otherwise you have an embarassing history? Can you spell n-a-z-i?First of all, I didn't say you have to get into alot of wars to be interesting, nor did I say being not interesting is embarrasing. The only thing that can make you interesting is by doing extreme stuff, which Australia doesn't do, and if you aren't interesting you don't get any "unembarassing" points, like the ones we get for kicking Japan's ass.
So you're saying you have to do extreme stuff to be interesting? Well, I think a peacefull country, with a good economy and a beatiful environment is rare these days. Isn't that extreme?
Yes, they are being made fun of by stupid arrogant Yanks such as you, while they have a damn lot better country.No, they have alot "nicer" country, but your country neglects the welfare of anybody not living in a metropolis. I've seen the cities, and the rural sectors. The rural sectors are made of mostly of people with 20 year old cars, living in broken down homes, and making 2-5 dollars an hour. If you have ever crossed the border at international falls, you know what I mean, you go from brand new cars, buildings that look like they were just painted, and people making at minimum 8 dollars an hour, to a place that looks like it was devestated by war. And the people at international falls arent even rich, they are the working class.
Same thing in the US, only the cities are even worse.
And I explained how we managed to "unembarrass" our history.
So? We're talking about embarassing history's here, not about the present.
I don't care how things are now, the history is still embarassing. By the way, there's still a lot of racism going on the US, putting black people in prison for crimes they've never comitted.
Can anyone hear the words "sex slave trade"?
So what? You think that does not happen in the US? Because prostitution is illegal in the US you get a lot of that kind of criminal activities. At least we have legal prostitution, safely monitered by the government, wich makes the illegal prostitution wich contains sex slave trade happen less. Besides, if this is the only embarasing thing you can name, than I guess you have only proven my point.
At 11/28/03 12:45 AM, Jimsween wrote: The fact that alot of indians died shouldn't embarass people, at the very most they should be ashamed of what happened, but it wasn't as if we actually commited genocide, in fact not many indians were killed, most that did die died of starvation (from lack of being able to obtain food in the reservations). The reason there are so few indians is because they "assimilated" into the population (married non indians or did not have children at all).
No matter how you tell it, you did kill a damn lot of Indians. If that's not embarrasing to you you are just a facist asshole.
The US was just as much to blame for the cold war!I wouldn't say just as much, we were more responsible for the cuban missile crisis, but we weren't nearly as much responsible for the hostilities when they invaded thier "satellites" repeatedly.
But you also have to take into consideration that the USSR killed 40+ million people during the cold war, every one of them one of thier own citizens I might add.
Yes, the killed people during the cold war, but that's not a reason for blaming the cold war in general on them.
Yes, that must be it. *rolls eyes*France - Too easyOr so diffecult you can't think of anything.
Yes, cause you obviously still haven't thought of anything.
US - Today's ImperialistThats funny, I don't remember us forcing countries to pay tribute, oppressing citizens and/or forcing them to work for our benefit, or claiming any country as our property ever. I guess Merriam Webster's definition of imperialism must be wrong, they should know that your definitions are right, and there's are wrong.
By precize definition of the word, the US might not be imperialistic. But they have intervered and invaded a damn lot of country's, and are forcing their ways to people all over the world.
There is nothing wrong with being "Uber catholisism" or "Uber christianity", the "caused more things than I can list" part is what was embarrasing. Do you want me to list those things?Italy - Uber Catholisism (caused more things than I can list)US - Uber Christianity
Well, the uber christianity in the US caused Bush'stupid views on abortion and gay marriage. Right now, I've named two more things than you have.
We never traded slaves, and our slaughtering of indians was on a much, much, much smaller scale.
Perhaps you never sold slaves to other countries, but in your own nation you had a damn big slave trade. And I don't care how big the scale is, slaughtering Indians is wrong.
US - Does not say or do anything about it, because of fear to lose an important trade partnerI don't think important puts it strongly enough, if we lost China, our economy would collapse. Forgive me if I think that is not a good enough reason to not start a war with a country that has 1 million infantry and 5,000 nuclear missiles.
In other words: The US economy is more important than the lives of one billion Chinese people.
I never said anything about a war dumbass.
And FYI, we do often say things, which is probably why China is allowing there to be democratic parties.
Than why is the communistic party still ruling China? Those "democratic parties" in China can't do shit, but hey, if the US would have any more complain they can kiss their trade goodbye.
Japan - Horrible defeat in WW2, the creation of "furries"73|-| I=I_I|2|2135 P\/\//\/ j00!!1!
Hm... can't think of anything for that one.
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Hell no! Australia is one of the coolest countries ever! They've got Koala's and kangaroo's and stuff, and great beaches.*snore* Yes, that'll get them into the history books.
So you're saying you can only be "interesting" by going into a lot of wars? Otherwise you have an embarassing history? Can you spell n-a-z-i?
Why? Are you refuteing the fact that Canada is consistantly made fun of? They can be humanitarians all they want (which I might add, has crippled thier rural infastructure) but they still are constatly mocked.Canada - Oh please...I'm not even gonna react on this one.
Yes, they are being made fun of by stupid arrogant Yanks such as you, while they have a damn lot better country.
But we evilized racists and "the man" for doing such, therefore making it seem like we are completely changed, and that we "overthrew" the old country that did those things. So through the magic of commercialisation we turned it to our favor. And also through the magic of commercialisation we made it so instead of being embarrased that you are an American for it, you are embarrased you are a caucasian for it. Neat eh?South Africa - AparthiedUS - pretty much the same thing for a long time.
So? We're talking about embarassing history's here, not about the present.
Is your country by any chance the mystical land of Narnia?
If you would have taken the effort of having a look at my profile you would have seen it's the Netherlands.
At 11/26/03 07:01 PM, Matrixguy200 wrote:At 11/21/03 05:34 PM, Veggiemeal wrote:blah, blah, blah.....America sucks.
I don't blame you for being an idiot, but I do blame you for your ignorance.
Here's the expression:
" Don't judge America by Bush"
Dude, I just insinunated that Bush is an idiot in one line. I didn't even mention his name. I said a lot of stuff that's going on in the US way before Bush. But hey, that's okay, you're just an idiot and I don't blame you for it.
At 11/26/03 10:24 PM, the2nd187 wrote: Right wing or Left Wing?
Left Wing, for most stuff
Republican or Democrat?
Fuck that, I'm not a Yank
Pro Life or Pro Choice?
Pro Both
Pro corp. or Pro small business?
Pro small business. I think it's more... personal.
any political power in your family/you?
Yeah, My dad happens to be the King and Queen of Cheese.
At 11/27/03 10:22 AM, bulletproofdisaster wrote: A lot of stuff, and summed it up with:
Dont blame the armed forces, blame the government
Like I've said in an other thread, the armed forces are also the ones to blame. Sure, they just take orders, but they can think for themselves! I would respect a soldier if he would have the balls to stand up to his government and say "fuck you, I won't do this, it isn't right!" instead of just obeying like a mindless zombie. If a gangster kills someone because his mafia boss told him so, can you only blame the mafia boss and is the killer completely innocent?
At 11/24/03 11:54 PM, Jimsween wrote:
I really don't think the Indian thing is too embarrasing, we won didn't we?
Right, you won! You wiped out an entire race! Of course that's nothing to be embarassed about! You can do anything you like, just as long as you win, it isn't embarassing!
However, even if it was, it is not even comparable to what other civilizations/countries did,
Germany - Third Riech
True, true.
Russia - Cold War
The US was just as much to blame for the cold war!
France - Too easy
Or so diffecult you can't think of anything.
Britan - Imperialist warmongering for the past millenium
US - Today's Imperialist
Italy - Uber Catholisism (caused more things than I can list)
US - Uber Christianity
Spain - Slaughter of indians, slave trade, horrible defeat by England
US- pretty much the same thing, except for the defeat by England
China - Still going strong with that whole tyranny thing
US - Does not say or do anything about it, because of fear to lose an important trade partner
Japan - Horrible defeat in WW2, the creation of "furries"
Hm... can't think of anything for that one.
Australia - Quite possibly the least interesting country ever (however good it may be)
Hell no! Australia is one of the coolest countries ever! They've got Koala's and kangaroo's and stuff, and great beaches.
Canada - Oh please...
I'm not even gonna react on this one.
South Africa - Aparthied
US - pretty much the same thing for a long time.
I challenge you to find a country with less embarrasing history than the USA's. We may have had our blunders, but I think the whole "Fighting for freedom" thing tends to make those blunders much less visible.
You named 11 countries out of the hundreds that excist on this planet. But to answer your question: I think my country has a pretty nice history. We did some slave trade and colonies in the past, but that's about it. We were also one of the first republics in history and have a very good drugs policy and we are a lot more democratic than the US. I'm not exactly proud of my country, but I think it's a lot better than the US.
You wanna die? Die.
The only trouble is when someone is in coma or in any other way unable to decide for himself. In that case I'd say Omega is right.
At 11/24/03 10:55 AM, 70TA wrote: You sure as hell don't sound like it. You're just covering your ass so you can live here.
How can you here weither someone's american or not? You're stereotyping your own kind, dumbass.
God damn you, you fuckin fag piece of shit, how many times do I have to tell you that I'm not a homophobe?
Let's play "seek the paradox" with this sentence!
Assassinate Bush? Wow, you really need to be shot in the head, you loser fuck.
Indeed! Don't waste a bullet on Bush if you can use it to shoot
70TA!
At 11/23/03 12:15 PM, THE_HULKSTER wrote: The war in Iraq is wrong, but it's not the soldiers who caused it.
True, but it IS the soldiers who can END it. I don't mind if someone's fighting, but it has to be for a good cause. If there isn't a good cause, you should refuse to fight. A good soldier is a soldier who fights to defend the good, and refuses to fight for the evil.
diazepim, I have a question, have you ever smoked pot yourself?
I used it once. Yes, only once, no addiction or anything. And you know what? It did not effect me at all. It gave me a calm feeling, and that's it. You hear al that shit your conservative fat ass mother is telling you about how dangerous drugs is blablabla, and you just believe it like a dumb monkey.
You think drugs shouldn't be legalized? Well, in my country it is. Jup, I could just go to the coffee shop around the corner and get some weed. Fun fact: Apperantly, people in the US (where drugs are illegal) regularly die because of overdosises, while the last time I heard or read about someone dying of an overdosis in my eeny-weeny country is such a long time ago I can't even remember. Hm...Hm...Hmmmm.............<start thinking>
At 11/21/03 02:39 PM, diazepim wrote: I just saw Blair on CNN and he's about the only honorable and courageous man in Europe who's got brass balls size of Montana.
A-hem! I live in Europe too!
Listen up, that includes you, potheads, in the "illegal drug" topic group.
Yes daddy.
Tony Blair and GW Bush understand that Terrorist needs to be stomped out from the face of Mother Earth for good and for all. The very breath of freedom we enjoy as a democratic society is in thanks to courageous men like Blair and Bush.
First of all, since when does Bush give a fuck about mother earth? All he does is screwing up the environment. Second, what do they exactly do that is so courageous? Making stupid decisions that causes the deaths of both civillians and soldiers? Third, I breathe air, not freedom. You suck as a poet.
We did not take the war to Al Queda, they brought it to the 60 international countries both in domestic and foreign lands, in acts of cowardly terrorist violence over last 40 years.
If they are terrorising us for 40 years already, why did the US didn't anything about it earlier?
I do not condone violence, but to let scumbag terrorists, nations, organization, that harbor terrorist and support terrorist thrive and terrorize innocent people... I will go American Jihad on your ass. Terrorism will not be tolerated on Earth. America will not tolerate it. Britain will not tolerate it.
You mean they don't tolerate it from anyone other than themselves.
I know somewhere along Britain's history, there's something or was something called English Honor and Courage... the British Empire's Navy had it in the 1500-1700's... and I know British Airfore had it in the 1940's. And you can definitely see it in Blair.
All I can see in Blair is a shaky little guy with a wee dick.
If we sit back and let terrorist proliferate, whereever, in Afghanistan or Iraq, we have failed since birth of history of mankind to fulfill our destiny to be free. You will all be living under tyranny of fear.
You are living under the tiranny of fear already. Bush has scared you with his crap about terrorism so you support him.
Every American and free countries of the world need to stand up to terrorists like Saddam regime in Iraq, who harbor and support terrorism of free nations.
There has never, ever, been any proof of Iraq harboring terrorists.
That is why it's mindboggling to see 35% poll rate of Brits thinking Bush is war monger and do not support America. Brits should be ashamed of those minority in Britain. Because Americans are ashamed of anti-American liberal idiots in America who are against Bush.
If you are ashamed of people in your country with a different opinion, than you aren't exactly a very democratic person, be ya?
France is another topic I will rip into soon. The French is idiotically amnesic and smoking some heavy stuff. The Third Reich, need I say more?
Yes, I don't know what te fuck you are trying to say with this.
I just want to say that thank God for free nations and democracy, and thank God that reasonal courageous people are in the majority and retards that oppose Blair and Bush are still in the minority... 35% of Brits is still alarmingly high.
Why is supporting Bush and Blair courageous? You're saying the majority is doing this, so actually it's just going with the flow. Not very courageous, if you ask me.
For all you whiners about Bush, grow some ballz and support our troops that are in the trenches right now... helping to provide the very freedom we breathe... that we can freely speak our minds and press freely at keyboards.
All you've done so far is compaining about people who freely speak their minds.
Even the concept of newgrounds.com is ALL AMERICAN.
And why is that? Because there are a lot of retarded members?
:There shouldn't be one person that logs on here that oppose the War on Terror.
Well, I'm here. Sue me.
:Stuff people write and produce, imagine if we were under the Saddam regime--you, we'd all be eating camel dung in a dungeon cell in a torture chamber with a red hot poker stuck up our ass. And there shouldn't be one woman on Earth who isn't supporting War on Terror. Afghanistan women were treated like camel or worse, do you want to be treated like camel?
Well, first of all, I'm not a woman. Second, if all the Iraqi people were eating camel dung there wouldn't be any Iraqi's left.
Thank you President Bush, You're doing a swell job. Destroy terrorists!
<puke>
Thank you Prime Minister Blair. You're doing the right thing. Anihilate terrorists!
<more puke>
Thank you US Armed forces. You are true freak'n American Heroes. Eradicate terrorist whereever there hide.
<more more puke>
At 11/20/03 06:33 AM, diazepim wrote: No that's not the case. American kids are taught the virtues of democracy.
Oh no! They got you too!
Little kids in school have to pledge legiance (or how the fuck you spell it) to the flag, the same way young Germans had to say sieg heil to a portrait of Hitler or Iraqi kids had to swear loyalty to a portrait of Saddam.
German and Iraq as well as Cuba, N Korea, Iran, Palestines... are dictated by idiots.
Don't say it... don't say it... ARGH! I can't resist! If there's one country dictated by an idiot it's the US!!!!
Native americans were so much at war with one another, they would have eventually died off in the future.
Uhm... the US is in war all the time too, but do you think they'll die too eventually? And still, just because they would "die eventually" doesn't make it right to wipe them out.
:it's not totally inappropriate to paint the picture how you want it.
Tell me the difference between lying and "painting the picture the way you want it", and we'll talk some more.
I think you should be more worried about US kids with shooting each other over Pokemon or getting seizures playing Playstations than nationalism.
Of course!!! Instead of worrying how kids are being brainwashed, let's start moaning about the fact that they play fictional games involving cute little fantasy animals, cause that's were the real danger is!
People, starting as kids, should be more involved in world politics and nationalism, and domestic politics... y? So that they aren't idiots when the grow up to be senators and congressmens and presidents of the USA.
It's exactly that kind of nationalism that you cram in those kids that makes them the idiots that rule the US right now.
54. Put pornographic pictures in your school newspaper.
At 11/20/03 09:30 AM, D2KVirus wrote: Is this man cognisant of people like Hitler or Stalin?
Would sunshine here know those guys are uhm... death?
He also demanded bullet proof glass in front of his windows, and he demanded that the British authorities would make sure there would be no unhappy British people around him because he wanted to make some nice video's for his election campaign.
Fuck that fucking fucker.
At 11/20/03 04:21 AM, diazepim wrote: Milk is for babies. Grown-ups drink Heinken.
Heineken is crap. Too much water, too little taste. Hertog Jan is the best!
Ok, but back to the topic, I don't know exactly how harmful milk really is. Sure, there might be bad stuff in it, but there's also a lot of good stuff in it, like chalk and calcium. It's like beer: it has some really good stuff (vitamin C) and some really bad stuff (alcohol).
I do know I like it a lot, and it would be hard for me to quit drinking it and pouring it in my corn flakes. Soja milk would not be a very good option for me, it makes me puke.
At 11/19/03 10:29 PM, MikeBillings wrote:When a child has a different opinion and refuses to believe al that crap or does not want to pledge to that stupid flag he could risk detention or other punishment. A kid even got sewed once for wearing a anti-war T-shirt.I don't believe that last part. If the T-shirt had profanity on it, he might get in trouble, but he can't get sued for protesting a war.
I swear to god this really happened, and the judge even forbade the kid to wear the T-shirt. I know, I don't have any hard evidence, you just have to take my word for it.
At 11/19/03 01:09 PM, BWS wrote: Hahaha. No, thats not what I was getting at. And trust me, I know what im talking about; that company would produce crap, and there is no fucking way in hell that these slaves laborers could produce more than we could here. No way.
No? Who do you think that makes Nike's products? American employees with a nice wage and a dental plan?
At 11/19/03 12:28 PM, I_Am_3 wrote: i hate when people talk about how high cd prices are and how cheap it is to make them, it is not cheap to make mass produced music cds, if you want to buy plain blank cds, you can buy a 50 pack of blank nameless disks from a computer store or something for like 10 bucks, but it will just be the disks, because all the rest of the money is going into everything else that goes into making a cd, you just want a plastic disk? ok go ahead you can get one for 5 cents, but you want a music cd, it costs a lot more...
From all the money you pay for a music CD about 50% goes to the record company, what's left goes to the musician, the store and other stuff. I'd say the prices could be a bit lower.
At 11/19/03 09:28 AM, TheInfamousTM wrote: Noticing the topics on this forum, there's a lot of people (like in the recent topic, where that veggie Dutch dude claims Americans are brainwashed the Nazi Germany way) who have axes to grind with the U.S. in one way or another.
"veggie Dutch dude", another one for my nickname list!
Anyhow. Given that topic beforehand, I'm going to give a little spiel on U.S. education before I get to the actual point of this thing. As a guy who in recent years got out of the formative education system in the U.S., I can say that the education system is flawed, but not quite in the way many people outside the U.S. claim. The flaws mainly lie in the management of funds, and teaching (in my opinion) of frivoulous subject matter. In other words, teaching us things that are not important to our daily lives or future careers. Things we do not keep in mind we forget, such as world geography. That's right - a common misconception is that Americans are completely ignorant of geopolitics, but we actually get world geography, right down to every last nation in the world, drilled into our brain (or at least I did my Freshman year). However, we never use it - so we forget. I have forgotten most of what I learned then myself, because it was not useful.
I think that's in every country. Schools indeed teach us a lot of stuff we will never use in our future careers. But since most children don't know what they want to do after school, they can't give just teach everyone exactly what he'll need to know later on.
As an aside, I tend to get irritated quickly with people outside America who angst that "Americans know nothing because they do not know anything about my country." I don't expect them to know where Rhode Island is on a map - that isn't important to their daily lives. In fact, I doubt that the people who rant and rave on this subject would know where the Sierra mountains are, or where Death Valley, or the Mississippi River is. This kind of self-important dualism annoys me greatly.
I don't care if you don't know where the Netherlands is. What do pisses me off is that in a lot of hollywood movies Dutch people speak German.
But I digress. Anyone who tries to compare the United States to Nazi Germany does not know what they are talking about, frankly.
Not nescasserily. There's some resemblence, like that pledge (in my opinion). But you are indeed shortminded if you say those countries are a lot alike.
When you burn a national flag, you are making a hostile gesture to the people of that nation and the nation itself. If I were to take a flag of Canada and burn it, it'd be like me going up there and giving everyone rude gestures and telling them to fuck off and die. (I actually don't hate the Canadians; they're quite cool people. Just merely an example, here!)
In my eyes a flag is just a piece of fabric. I think it's a bit of over reacting to think that someone wants to kill you if you see him burning your flag. That guy is just pissed off about your government, not about you. A picture of Bush might indeed be more politically correct, but hey, a flag is more classic.
At 11/19/03 09:59 AM, Peter90688 wrote:At 11/19/03 08:26 AM, Veggiemeal wrote: That means you're a terrorist, and unamerican and unpatriotic, so you should be shot!I agree.
Thank you lord, for sarcasm.
I'd say number two. The worst thing about that one is that it's officially legal.
At 11/19/03 07:59 AM, UNpossible wrote: Actually, I'm going to wonder what's the big deal about not saying the pledge, and the deal people make about not saying it.
That means you're a terrorist, and unamerican and unpatriotic, so you should be shot!
At 11/18/03 08:37 PM, Peter90688 wrote: Hey, schools have been doing the pledge for a while now, get over it. Its a rule in many schools. AMERICAN SCHOOLS. and its Cojones.
I'm sorry. They say it in AMERICAN SCHOOLS. So that makes it allright to force little children to mumble some stupid phrases.
At 11/19/03 05:18 AM, Hippy-Flip wrote: what is your opinion on it?
Read up on it before you start flaming it. It's not as dangerous as the anti-drug adds tell you. Alchohol companies make the campaigns because both E and booze are both party drugs, and the more people do E, the less they drink. Alchohol companies are greedy and will take as much money as possible, so yes they will go as far as making anti-drug adds to get people to drink.
It does NOT put holes in your brain. It just burns away the seritonum in your brain for about 18 hours. The "hole" assumption comes from that. People think that it burns more than just the seritonum, and that is false. You can replace the seritonum with 5htp pills the following day, which replenishes your brain with it.
You CAN NOT die from Ecstasy, the pill. The people who die after using it are irresponsable with it, such as not getting enough water or overheating. If you take numerous pills on an average basis, you will suffer long term effects.
If you check on anti-drug websites, they will tell you that Ecstasy is harmless....an ANTI-DRUG site will tell you that.
I'm not a druggy. If you read up on it you will understand.
I'm all for legalising every single drug, including ecstacy. Even in the Netherlands ecstacy isn't legal, but still very populair. It's just as you said: it's not as harmful as everyone says, just like all that crap the anti-drug people tell you about marihuana. If you use it with care, it's not more harmful than alcohol or tobacco. Besides, a lot more people die from the effects of alcohol and tobacco than drugs. Sure, because it's illegal less people use it, but every time someone dies from ecstasy it's so special you can read about it in the national newspapers the next day (Even in our drugs paradise). If you illegalize drugs, go ahead, but than you should illegalize cigarettes and alcohol too.
Allright, close this topic. It has gone totally the wrong way. It started with children being brainwashed and now it's about eating meat again.
It seems my vegetarinism keeps hunting me....
At 11/18/03 11:46 AM, Ruination wrote: Gay marriages... why not? The church holds but a fraction of the power it used to have over modern democratic states.
Tell that to Bush.
At 11/17/03 09:14 PM, I_Am_3 wrote: and i have one other thing to add, on the subject of vegan or vegetarianism, its fine with me, but i always think its foolish if people are vegan/vegetarians simply because they feel bad for animals, because christ, plants are alive too, on a cellular level plants could be said to be more advanced than animals (could be from a certain point of few), they are alive, so if someone says its ok to eat animals because its morally wrong it pisses me off, so what its ok to eat things that arent cute? i'm gonna go eat me an ugly person! YAY! i always wanted to try human!
Plants do not have feelings, do not have nerves, do not have brains. Plants are alive, but plants do not feel pain or stress. Show me one plant that is more advanced than an animal, hm? I'm not a vegetarian because I think our livestock is cute (what the fuck is so cute about a big fat pig?), I just think it is wrong to hurt and kill a living creature (with feelings!) just because you want to eat something you don't nescasserily need. So before you start accusing me of being stupid, think about what you say.
And could we PLEASE stop the vegetarian discussion? I've dealt with this for three fucking times already and I do not want to have to go through this again.
At 11/17/03 12:35 PM, RedSkunk wrote:You can't get guns without meat, and you can't rely on beans or eggs for protein.How's this for an arguement: "Yes you can."
That's too difficult for that toenailbrain.
