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Response to: Anti-Homosexuality? - A Challenge Posted January 8th, 2006 in Politics

At 1/8/06 10:55 AM, Draconias wrote: Can you provide strong reasons why everyone except for the Gay couples should want to support this major change that goes against much of our religious and cultural values?

Because they deserve the same rights as you. You know, in my country gay marriage is legal, but I have yet to see an explosive increase of gayness here. As opposed to the US where everyone likes to look at men in thight outfits at wrestling, baseball and american football games.

Response to: Anti-Homosexuality? - A Challenge Posted January 8th, 2006 in Politics

By the way, I got this in my email, might be fun to share:

10 reasons Gay Marriage is wrong:

1. Being gay is not natural. And as you know Americans have always rejected unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because, as you know, a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

4. Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed. The sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

9. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

Response to: Anti-Homosexuality? - A Challenge Posted January 8th, 2006 in Politics

At 1/8/06 12:38 AM, TurmionKatilot wrote: Imagine yourslef in the fetal postion, while some guy rams his pelvis into your ass. Sound like fun?

Not to me, no, but some people enjoy it. Let them have their fun and love.

Response to: Anti-Homosexuality? - A Challenge Posted January 7th, 2006 in Politics

At 1/7/06 01:28 AM, SilentPoet wrote: Well, I have met alot of gay people, infact one of my family members is gay. I have yet to see one gay person interested in anything besides sex. Not one. You can interpret this as you like. I realy can't past judgement, its not my place.

You know some pretty fucked up people then. My mom's a lesbian and she sure as hell doesn't stay with her girlfriend for the sex.

:However I do know right from wrong, everyone does. Its just that people lie to themselves. We lie to ourselves everyday. And we are very good liars. We are such good liars that some of us could convince ourselves that certain urges are love and not lust. Perhaps I am short sighted, but I can see nothing in homosexuality other than lust. Or atleast that is all I've seen so far.

Your suggesting, based on nothing whatsoever, that gay people are incapable of love or something. Why would gay people even have relationships if all they wanted to do was fuck each others brains out? Who the hell are you to think you know what gay people feel? Sheer arrogancy!

:Other than that, I suppose the only other arguement that would start a flame war is perhaps the health issues. If someone sticks something we it wasn't meant to be, there's gonna be promblems. Rip skinned for both partners. Imagine that for a second. Your penis' skin has been ripped. x_x

I really just don't think homosexuality is worth what it cost, physically, emotionally, or physically.

Of course! Your penis' skin will rip, because of all the razor blades that humans have inside their anus. Homosexuality doesn't cost you shit. Surpressing your homosexuality however, causes great emotianol problems. And that's all thanks to people like you.


For spiritually minded homosexuals: You are in for some tough times. You have to resist temptation. You have to close the door. Stop doing it, repent, and ask forgiveness. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise and don't let others get on to you afterwards. That's the devil trying to get you down. The door is shut, the path closed, the deed done and forgiven. Don't take nothing from nobody because our God (everyone's God) is of another, and another, and another power! You ask forgivenees and Jesus will give it, case closed.

Yes, case closed, unless you're not a fundemental christian, which a lot of people tend to be.

(To the person who started this thread)
If you think this is an arguement that you can't argue against, email at nerevarsilentpoet@yahoo.com. I will give your specifics on what to but on your thread.

I think I managed just fine.

Response to: America Done Right. Posted July 26th, 2005 in Politics

At 7/25/05 01:25 PM, Solthiel wrote: You know, its funny that most Americans that know so little about their country can list so many, when we're one of the top ten youngest countries on Earth. We have achieved more noteworthy things than most other countries have in their entire histories.

Noteworthy doesn't have to mean good. Hitler did a lot of "noteworthy" things too.

Hmm...how do you get to work? Or how do you get around town...what is almost the sole reason why this entire planet is dependant on oil? Well you have the Americans to thank for how cars are built and manufactured today. Because of a man named Henry Ford the world is not only more safe but is also more mobile.

Ford sucks. Volkswagen rules.

Hmm...let's get away from everyday society...what would battle be without belt-fed guns, rocket propelled armaments, and state of the art airplanes? Bloodshed? Yes. Lives saved? Soldier-side and enemy-side? Most likely. And while you're at it, this man also revolutionized flight all together, if you want to fly between countries or cities, you have this American to thank. They just made a movie about him in fact, and the company he created (American made...who would have thought)...put one of the first sattelites into space and is the forefront of cancer research. Ah, that's right, does the name Howard Hughes ring a bell? American again...

You're just gonna name some inventors who happened to be American? I could start naming inventors from my country too, to prove how kickass we are.

By the way, I'm pretty sure it wasn't an American who invented the wheel. An invention a millions times more important than planes and automobiles.

Or how about a man named Franklin Delano Rosevelt...if you don't have him to thank, you really ought to re-evaluate your history lessons. The man broke foreign policy to save western civilization numerous times...and not only that but got involved in a war he didn't have to even touch and gave one of the most infamous men in history a run for his money against all odds while also fighting Hirohito and moving across Africa against Rommel.

Yeah, he was okay. But there also have been lots of good leaders in other country's. Having had one good leader doesn't mean anything.

Or how about the absolutely and irrefutably incredible men that made this country what it was? How about Benjamin Franklin, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson? Do I even have to say anything about them? They basically stand upon their own achievements as far as I can see, like many men in American history.

Blabla, they stole land from the Natives, dediced they didn't want to pay taxes to England anymore and started a war in which they didn't even fight themselves. Big fucking deal.

Let's skip away from the people that made this country fantastic for a moment though, I could only list about a million. We have one of the most balanced and foolproof governmental systems on Earth, if not -the- most balanced. The fact that any man and woman anywhere can vote. The fact we have the permission in our very own constitution to keep our government in order through acts of force or acts of politics. We are the product of the corrupt governments of the world's history, and this is more or less the dream country of the men who fought for it. This country who you are so blatantly insulting, while its obviously your right to do so, had to endure years of bloodshed in numerous wars in order to become what we have and give you the permission to question it at all. We are the most priveleged country in the world and also the most politically active, also the most defended; you will never have to worry about being attacked on your own land, we are nearly unable to be invaded.

I'd love to explain how absolutely stupid and opposite of the truth this whole part is, but I don't have the time right now. Maybe later. Just remember how great your voting system worked in 2000, for starters.

Response to: easy way to prevent terrorism Posted July 24th, 2005 in Politics

At 7/23/05 04:53 PM, dangertosociety wrote: I agree with u, veggiemeal, but this post sounds almost exactly like the chapter
''want to stop terrorism, stop being terrorists''
from dude, wheres my country, by micheal moore

get ur own opinions

It's many people's opinion that the US should stop bully around the world, not just Michael Moore's. Besides, it's been ages since I read that book, I don't even remember most of it.

Response to: easy way to prevent terrorism Posted July 24th, 2005 in Politics

At 7/24/05 05:50 AM, Jimsween wrote:
At 7/23/05 01:24 PM, Veggiemeal wrote: I can't help noticing that after three major "terrorist" attacks in western countries we've still learned squat. The first thing the governments decide is to "fight terrorism even more".
What has Egpyt done to fight terrorism in the first place? Hmm?

Since when is Egypt a western country?

News flash:
Who the hell says news flash?

I did. Who cares? It hasn't got anything to do with my point.

you can't destroy terrorism. How about you start and think about why these people want to blow us up so bad?
There is no logical reasoning for cold blooded murder. It is inherently illogical.

Sure, when THEY attack YOU, it's cold blooded murder. The other way around it's okay, of course.

It's not "because they hate our freedom". It's because we're making a hobby out of pissing these people off.
Do you actually know why they hated us to begin with? No, not Israel, it was because we sent troops to protect Saudi Arabia during the first Iraq war. Look it up, thats thier main gripe.

Besides the point that sending troops to Saudi Arabia could be a legitamite reason to hate the US, the keyword here is MAIN gripe. There are plenty of other way's the US pissed those people off.

I also find it very funny that when the US air force bombs the houses of Iraqi and Afghan people and killing countless civillians they call it "collateral damage" but when a few Arab guys blow up a bunch of American, Spanish or British people it's terrorism and the whole world is shocked. Never mind people are being blown apart by our troops every day. They don't matter. They're just not white enough.
Hm, perhaps you should look up the definition of terrorism. The main difference between what we do and what they do is that we do not target civilians, the civilians are just in our way. We have exerted alot of effort to gaurantee minimal civilian losses in Iraq, and it has worked.

It has worked??? More than 20.000 Iraqi civillians got killed so far and you say it has worked?!

Also, why exactly are the al quaida attacks terrorist attacks and the Iraqi and Afghan invasions aren't? When you strike at someone, he strikes back. That's what these people are doing.
Because we did not target civilians.

Perhaps, but you sure have a shitty aim. You tell the families of those killed Iraqi's that you did not "target" them. I'm sure they'll be very happy.

Therefore, they have no right to be treated the way they are being treated in Guantanamo Bay. They deserve the same treatment as any other soldier. And you know what? We attacked them. Therefore, they have the right to attack us back. We kill their citizens, they kill ours.
The 9/11 attacks were the first aggression, I don't know what your talking about.

Yeah, before 9/11 the US was a saint.

And at that, Proteas is right you only have POW privileges if you are in uniform. Our spies and covert ops out of uniform are not protected by the geneva convention.

Maybe, but would you like those spies and covert ops to be treated like they do with people in Guantanamo Bay or Abu Graib?

How to stop this "terrorism"? Stop giving these poeple more and more reasons to hate us. Don't occupy their lands. Don't give weapons to Israel. Don't abuse those imprisoned, and for fuck's sake, share your wealth.
Terrorism does not arise because of provocation. It arises out of poverty, poor living conditions, and oppression. You can take away all thier reasons and they will still hate. There are civil wars and genocides in Africa, there are communist insurgencies and cartel wars in South America, and there are bombings in the middle east.

And what do you think the cause of this "poverty, poor living conditions and oppressions" is? Iraq, for example, was a relativaly well off country before the US barged in. The living conditions of the Iraqi's are pure shit now and the way they see it, they are being oppressed by the US.

The fact that you would use the deaths of innocent civilians to justify your political idealology after the fact is sad.

Sure, when my point of view doesn't agree with yours, it's sad. I can burst into tears any second now.

easy way to prevent terrorism Posted July 23rd, 2005 in Politics

Wanna stop terrorism? Then stop begin terrorists.

I can't help noticing that after three major "terrorist" attacks in western countries we've still learned squat. The first thing the governments decide is to "fight terrorism even more". News flash: you can't destroy terrorism. How about you start and think about why these people want to blow us up so bad? It's not "because they hate our freedom". It's because we're making a hobby out of pissing these people off. On a certain day in september in 2001 a few guys thought they'd show the world they wouldn't take it anymore. How did the western world react? By invading two countries. That's one hell of a way to make friends. Hardly surprising more attacks followed.

I also find it very funny that when the US air force bombs the houses of Iraqi and Afghan people and killing countless civillians they call it "collateral damage" but when a few Arab guys blow up a bunch of American, Spanish or British people it's terrorism and the whole world is shocked. Never mind people are being blown apart by our troops every day. They don't matter. They're just not white enough.

9/11 killed about 3000 people. 191 died in the Attacks on Madrid and 37 in London. At the moment I'm writing this the Iraqi civillian body counter is at 22880. Do your maths. Why is everone screaming about how evil these terrorists are when we are the ones doing the lion share of all the killing?

Also, why exactly are the al quaida attacks terrorist attacks and the Iraqi and Afghan invasions aren't? When you strike at someone, he strikes back. That's what these people are doing. Therefore, they have no right to be treated the way they are being treated in Guantanamo Bay. They deserve the same treatment as any other soldier. And you know what? We attacked them. Therefore, they have the right to attack us back. We kill their citizens, they kill ours.

How to stop this "terrorism"? Stop giving these poeple more and more reasons to hate us. Don't occupy their lands. Don't give weapons to Israel. Don't abuse those imprisoned, and for fuck's sake, share your wealth.

Response to: R I P, Eu Constitution Posted May 31st, 2005 in Politics

I even made a comic about it

Response to: Why do we shy away from nudity? Posted May 31st, 2005 in Politics

At 5/31/05 05:47 PM, drDAK wrote: Because of sexually aroused morons like this sad person here.
The last thing I was to see is old grandpa's wang hangin' out there with his balls dragging on the sidewalk just strolling down main. Besides, the sexual assault rates would sky rocket through the roof, that's just asking for more crime.

I'd say it's the other way around. The more people can get off on visuals, the less they need to rape or behave improperly otherwise to statisfy their needs. It's a vent you know.

Response to: NIN cancel over political statement Posted May 31st, 2005 in Politics

Why even bother making a political statement on MTV? The average MTV viewer can't even spell "political".

Response to: R I P, Eu Constitution Posted May 31st, 2005 in Politics

I'm gonna vote NO tommorow. Seriously, the EU is, after the US, the single most corrupt government in the western world. Just that is reason enough to vote against the constitution, because I don't want those fuckers to think we actually like the EU.

That constitution isn't even that big of a deal. It's just a few rules about how the EU should work. It's not even worth letting people vote about it. Why didn't they let us vote about weither we wanted that stupid euro? Oops, that's to important, we don't get to decide about important stuff so they just let us vote about something that will barely have any effect at all.

Screw the EU and all it's shit, I want my Gulden back!

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted April 13th, 2005 in Politics

Hey people, haven't been here for a long time, because I've been very euhm... busy. Who knows I might mingle myself in some fierce discussions again in the future, as long as they're not about meat.

Anyway, a couple a weeks ago I started my very own webcomic called Ritalin Boy and Jake, about the adventures of a chornic ADD patient, a diehard stoner and their goldfish.

Being the spotlightseeking whore that I am, I'm just blatantly promoting it here. If you like, check it out at http://www.ritalinboyandjake.com

Enjoy

Response to: Ritalin Boy and Jake Posted April 13th, 2005 in General

At 4/13/05 02:43 PM, ChechenRebel wrote: Cool
How many time a week you'll update it ?

I try to update about 2-3 times a week. I wish I could update more frequent, but I'm still in college (art academy) which takes a lot of my time (yes this is about the only form of college in which you actually have to work pretty hard).

Ritalin Boy and Jake Posted April 13th, 2005 in General

Hey people, a couple a weeks ago I started my very own webcomic called Ritalin Boy and Jake, about the adventures of a chornic ADD patient, a diehard stoner and their goldfish.

Being the spotlightseeking whore that I am, I'm just blatantly promoting it here. If you like, check it out here or if for some shitty reason that won't work ate http://www.ritalinboyandjake.com

Enjoy

Response to: US Government represses science Posted February 26th, 2005 in Politics

At 2/24/05 11:21 PM, Jimsween wrote: Global Dimming + Global Warming = The same temp.

It's not conclusive but the same stuff that keeps the sunlight in, also blocks it out. There may be a tiny bit more staying in than being blocked out, but yeah. Just food for thought.

Euhm... that happens to be bullshit. Global Warming has nothing to do with the amount of exposion to sunrays, it's the amount of co2 molecules in the atmosphere that holds the heat of the sun, and those molecules don't dim anything.

Response to: down with balkenende Posted February 23rd, 2005 in Politics

At 2/22/05 04:41 PM, La-Z-boi wrote: Heh, is that guy still prime minister? When are the next elections?

2 more years, if I'm not mistaken.
Anyway, didn't we already have this discussion (and I'm using this term losely here) before?

Vote SP!

Germans In Ww Ii: Victims? Posted February 17th, 2005 in Politics

I read a news article the other day (I'm not gonna give you any links or anything, I'm a lazy piece of shit) about a group of right extremist Germans who were remembering (I'm not sure this is the right English word in this situation, correct me if I'm wrong) the German victims of the Attacks on Dresden in WW II. A lot of people say this is inapropriate because the Germans were "wrong".

Of course, Hitler was a bad guy, and so were Himmler, Goebbels and all those Nazi leaders. But my question is, weren't the normal German people victims of the Nazi's just as well? Sure, they were cheering and cheering when Hitler rode by, and (most of them) did not stand up against the Nazi government, but name one people that has ever managed to overthrow a dictature themselves? People practically always tend to think of the sake of themselves and their beloved ones first. That's only human. The allied bombs killed German womand and children, basically innocent people. Shouldn't they be remembered? They're victims in my humble opinion. They were human. They suffered too.

Keep in mind that I in no way support Nazism. I just think people should start looking more objectivly at this situation.

Your thoughts?

Response to: Take off life support or not? Posted February 17th, 2005 in Politics

At 2/17/05 04:20 PM, ReiperX wrote: Do you think the woman will be able to pay the hospital bill? I doubt it, the bill is going to be huge. Hell my wife and I racked up nearly a thousand dollar doctor bill for being checked out briefly after an auto accident with a 18 wheeler, and all we did was take a shower, and the doc asked us a few questions.

Unpayed bills are probally one of the reasons that the bills are so damned high. Even if insurance coveres part of this, I doubt it covers all of it. Well that, and the kid is going to die anyways, stop the suffering.

Don't you just love universal health care.... I think I'm gonna break a few bones, just out of spite, since I don't have to pay jack shit because I live in Europe mwuhahahaha!

Response to: - The Regulars Lounge Thread - Posted February 17th, 2005 in Politics

At 2/17/05 04:19 PM, red_skunk wrote: I'm in the library, and I just printed out a shitload of copies of stuff for Amnesty International. 70+ pages, I believe. There's no way I'm going to use my ink.

But then I noticed that a line started to form around the printers. I have to lay low for awhile before I go and pick the stuff up.

>.>
<.<

Just walk over there and shout: "hey Jack, your prints are ready!..... Jack? Oh well, I'll just give it to him next time I see him..." Then pick up the shit and walk away.

Response to: Hilarious Bill O'reilly Quote Posted February 17th, 2005 in Politics

At 2/17/05 04:15 PM, ReiperX wrote: Bah Tolerance is a horrible thing. It leads to homsexuality.

And vegetarianism.

Oh! And communism and baby-killing!

Ooooooo, how I just love to melt baby's!

Response to: Take off life support or not? Posted February 17th, 2005 in Politics

Depends, I guess... You say he's taking up space that could be put to better use. I agree with that, if there is a shortage of hospital beds. Otherwise, let the lad live as long as possible.

Response to: Hilarious Bill O'reilly Quote Posted February 17th, 2005 in Politics

At 2/16/05 10:24 PM, silencedintruder wrote: Bill O Reiley is merely a tool of the zionist media propaganda network headed by Rupert Mordock known as News Coperation International.

Yes, and the Dali Llama is secretly a Chinese government agent and Al Simmons is the Green Goblin. Who gives a fuck, you can call everyone a tool. I think you are a tool of the anti-o'reilly movement.

Anyhoo, Bill O'Reilly should shut his hypocrit mouth. His own show is one big fat propaganda machine.

Response to: Is the USA a terrorist Posted January 10th, 2005 in Politics

Yes, the USA is a terrorist state. Now leave me alone.

Response to: The most generous president of all Posted January 8th, 2005 in Politics

Some people here are missing my point. Why don't I give a piddly squat about what Michael Moore or Sandra Bullock donated to Asia? Because those people didn't bother us about sending millions to Iraq to rebuild that country, a country with rich oil resources that was a lot better of than most of area's hit by the tsunami are right now. Bush used billions of taxpayers money to "rebuild" Iraq and Afghanistan, but he can't spare more then 10 grand for those devasted country's were almost 200.000 got killed, diseases are breaking out and billions of dollars of damage has been made. It's just kinda hypocrit in my humble wooden shoe person opinion. Also, anyone who thinks Bush really just makes 400 grand a year needs to get his head examined.

Oh and by the way FUNKbrs, what would you know? You're a stupid American!

The most generous president of all Posted January 7th, 2005 in Politics

There once was a guy who had owned a very big fortune... he also spend hundreds of billions of dollars on useless wars... he asked the governments around the world to relieve Iraq of their national debt, and encouraged people to send money for rebuilding that country...

This same man sent and enormous amount of money to the victims of the tsunami in Asia, namely.... 10.000 dollars.

Yeah, I'm talking about Bush here.

The guy's a fucking trazillionair, wastes money all over the globe and wanted us to give money to the poor people of iraq and afghanistan but out of his huge fortune he couldn't spare more than 10.000 lousy dollars to aid the people in Asia. I bet the only reason he bothered to sent anything at all was because it would look even worse if he didn't contribute anything.

Response to: How to make Fox fair and balanced.. Posted December 26th, 2004 in Politics

At 12/25/04 06:31 PM, drDAK wrote: 2. Bill O'rielly (independant)

I wouldn't call a guy who keeps praising Bush an independant.

Response to: Merry Christmas, all. Posted December 25th, 2004 in Politics

Merry Christmas and have a kick ass New Year everyone! And here's a message from a friend of mine:

Merry Christmas, all.

Response to: Slavery Posted December 12th, 2004 in Politics

You know, you don't have to press enter after every sentence.

Response to: two pints of bitter please? Posted December 12th, 2004 in General

Hertog Jan Pilsener! The best beer ever created by mankind.

two pints of bitter please?