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by the way yes, some tips on melody writing would be cool, since in the book i have it explains nothing. totally nothing.
like practical tips, not "just follow your heart and music will come by itself" lol, that happened only once

i wish i could write better melodies. i always get stuck when it comes to melodies and hooks. when i listen to other songs here, sometimes i ask "holy crap it's just four notes yet it's very effective".
it just seems i can't get the "mood" or the "tension" right. in some hands up tracks, the melody is not really the most important part, but sometimes i hear some good tracks that really smash the floor, lol.

BTW

even if they are shit I think I could share these. the only one that came good was "liquid piano" (published here, but no link or it's spam). feel free to use these. the other three are just three melodies i couldn't finish (make in a song) and felt like they were terrible, don't know.

MIDI 1 - http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?guu19h5adb50b9e
MIDI 2 - http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?h3bu2ev5dqlwb4o
LIQUID PIANO (3) (I have no idea how the fuck I was able to create this nice melody lol) - http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?93kd221uvfpd5tn
MIDI 4 - http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?7tc7qeriqy17jq4

See ya

ok dude, i'm not into this extreme ambient genre so i don't know what to say from a 'fan' point of view, so i'll talk as a listener.

i guess that's a characteristic of the genre that all the songs last so short. also, it seems a lot of songs share the same sounds slightly altered.

these pieces seem like normal progressions with some extra. if i was in you i'd concentrate on one song only. 'boss' was probably the only one i listened twice because i liked the bells on top of the strings/pads, but you used them too much IMO.

i liked the sounds in 'mercy'. nothing exceptional though, i never understood this genre. 'loader' had a cool but too much repetitive melody.

some sounds are very horrible, like in 'overworld'. but hey that's just my opinion.

good luck dude

At 4/20/13 07:52 AM, MetalRenard wrote:

At 4/20/13 04:43 AM, The-iMortal wrote: Inspiration combined with information is unstoppable. I am far from a music theory expert, but anybody who believes they should not study music theory at all is either a moron or lazy imo.

That's kind of insulting to people like myself who choose to not study theory because they like to discover things in their own way. I like the journey and experimentation of trying everything for myself rather than reading about it in a book.

he probably meant "... anybody who believies they should not know music theory".
I too learnt something from myself instead of reading, and when I read it I was like: "oh wow, i already knew this thing, but didn't know it was called 'minor chord'"

btw to answer the title: No.

At 4/18/13 03:41 PM, Breed wrote: Beside that, You can also lock patterns to a track so that you dont have to select it on that track anymore after the first time.

Maybe i'm a blind faggot but how can one do this in an older version of fl studio?

At 4/18/13 03:28 PM, Vyill wrote: I'm almost 99% sure that is Refx's Nexus vst making that choir sound. I have used it in one of my unreleased tunes, and it sounds very similar.

check out this reply:
http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1327591#bbspost24533401_
post_text

stop listening to music for a week, then make a song like it was your first one, with no influences or whatever

At 4/3/13 03:18 PM, SineRider wrote: Sounds like a bandpass filtered square wave with a lot of portamento/glide on it

thanks sine, forgot to say that i was able to reproduce it modifying a preset, changing some waves and filters. By the way I have another sound:

-- Around 0:30 the sound starts. It's obviously a saw, with glide/portamento on it. I can't recreate it (what a surprise!). I'm missing how to make that "bzz" sound, like wasp. To me the sound seems on two layers: the base sound and this other sound, that dominates. Or probably it's just one sound that has both characteristics. What synth do you suggest, and how you'd reproduce it?

Thank you all
(yes that's a really old song)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQebEgqsgrM

^
You sure the UVI WorkStation is free?
I read the iLok and things... do I need something? Ignorant from this point.

Right now downloading it. If it is really free I think im gonna buy the Emulation II, seems like a badass library

At 4/13/13 01:16 PM, Chemich wrote: posts above are exactly why other communities laugh at newgrounds.
get over yourselves, dear god.

this.
also, i like sequential one.

^ Up.

No one ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjCvyp7Xgmk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG_mpqvyFdQ

Both are similar, and are at the start at the song.
It's just a good envelope for attack or what? How would you achieve such sound?

Thanks

At 3/15/13 04:24 PM, Chemich wrote: Get your facts straight before you talk shit, the most you are to me is a troll that just wanted to plug his own shit and did it by a means of argument.

Very nice, you're certainly livid yourself.

troll? lol man, get a life.
now stop this debate, i was wrong you were right etc

At 3/15/13 03:51 PM, Chemich wrote: Everything has a mix of genre one way or another, that's how other genre's get made. Old elements made with new ideas, so please stop trolling and work harder on your music if you're going to shamelessly plug them.

Just sounds like a bad attempt at Psytrance, nothing more. If you have a problem with taking criticism then you're going to hate making music all together, sorry if you don't like my opinion. If you really want to create a piece that sounds unique and which the differences of genre will be noted in, then try harder. I'm not going to glorify a turd just because you think it deserves to have diamonds sprinkled all over it.

To me it just sounds like you're trying to plug your own track and glorify it just because you used different "ideas," it'll take a lot more than that to convince me otherwise. Then again when we're talking about beliefs and opinions no one wins but themselves. It's obvious you just baited an argument to plug your music, please stop trying to convince me otherwise. You didn't read my post and didn't understand that I was speaking of generalized ideas, and how things are perceived through DEFINITION. If you had read my original post at all, you would've never even tried baiting the argument.

So obviously, you just tried getting more views on your track. Nice job.

i wont even comment on this load of nonsense bullshits dude, i know my music sucks and i do it for a hobby because i like it, you talk like i care. get your shit together and talk with me in pm if you have a problem, you seem upset at writing all this block of shit for two words, grow up

At 3/15/13 03:55 PM, Cross666 wrote: I'm not going to touch trance because I don't have that much hands on intimacy with it. But that should pretty much cover the essentials.

Trance is probably the most controversial genre. Check out these ones

Robert Miles - Children
- dream trance

Giacomo Orlando - Trippologiko
- progressive trance

Cosmic Gate - Tomorrow
- hard trance

ATB - 9 PM
- euro trance

ETC ETC
Would you consider these as "similar songs"?
I wouldn't. Basically there is nothing, really concrete, that says why a song is trance.

Nice guide Cross.

At 3/15/13 02:34 PM, Chemich wrote: it just sounds like really terrible Psytrance.

You said a lot of shit but what I need was just this: so is this a psytrance track or none? You would classify it as?
My point is: it's hard to classify it because it's just a mix of genres and concepts as the wise Cross said. Don't be so arrogant kid

to Cross: makes sense what you said, it's a bit like what I meant
:.. carve your own little nitch in the wall. You didn't set out to make a trance track, you sat down and just took different concepts and made something thats more YOU than it is anything else.

Ok so if you're so good, please, categorize my last song, since I can't (don't say trance omg).
not advertising, just letting you know that it's impossible unless you say a mix between 2-3 genres

holy fuck the bad and irritant guy with dog avatar uploaded a new song!!1 omg

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At 3/14/13 11:35 AM, Buoy wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rock_genres
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_subgenres

if you ask me: this is quite ridicolous, look at that list.
bah

At 3/14/13 11:21 AM, midimachine wrote:

At 3/14/13 11:07 AM, Lachi wrote: i repeat: don't care about genres, this is totally pointless

nah this is a silly thing to say. how do you look for music that follows a certain style without referring to genre classification? i might want to listen to "EDM" that sounds like house, but not "EDM" that sounds like dubstep.

yeah but the deeper you go, the more complex things you have.
i know songs (especially amateur ones, like dj splash or boosterz, but there are milion of examples) that are a mix between commercial trance and hands up, eurotrance and eurodance (pay attention: they're different, lol), etc. Then we have the old school with acid, old house (not the modern house), progressive dream dance and progressive dream trance, and some others are totally inclassificable due to their nature: dark minimal intelligent dance music?

it all depends on how deep you want and can go, i gave up on making genres after years of try

I know for personal experience that it's impossible make a genre division.
I totally prefer a division based on period, years and "style", not to be confused with genre.

EDM is the big global genre. After that, I think every song is a different song.

Who the hell cares anyway for genres, just make it trance or techno, since noobs today think everything electronic is techno (oh, it's not. real techno used to be good music, like acid house or the first rave songs in the free parties).

i repeat: don't care about genres, this is totally pointless

LOL
Right, confused Reason and Reaper

At 3/13/13 07:47 AM, strikepravus wrote: Hey everyone, are there any VST/synth programs that I can get for free? Looking for something like Helix - I used to use the free beta version of that waaaaay back when that was available, but I've lost that.

I work in Reaper, if that makes a difference.

Thanks!

I thought Reaper had no VST support. If I'm wrong, check out the DSK plugins, very cool ones there.
4FrontPiano is a good piano sound, and check out SoundFonts too.

What genre/style are you making?

At 3/11/13 05:05 PM, RampantMusik wrote: They're getting about as predictable as Apple. And, just like Apple, none of the "new" features are really ones that I need, want, or wow me enough to say, "I gotta have this."

apple had some "old" features that were usefull? lol
Btw these guys at Komplete (are they the same of Massive and Kontakt, right?) are making too many vsts and libraries, IMHO.

Just do one thing, and do it good (like Spectrasonics with Omnisphere)

@Frootza - yes, that's a really good analogy, makes something a bit more clear

@Metal R - Yeah, I guess effects do their part too

Thank you all guise

At 3/9/13 12:35 PM, Lasse wrote: sorry only moderators are allowed to whore their stuff out (and then ban you if you critisize it)

lèl.

Check out audio advertisment thread and all the related stuff

Nevermind I'm gay

MIDI link doesn't work

At 3/8/13 04:12 PM, Buoy wrote: EQ isn't the solution to everything though of course, I would say it's far more important that the sounds and melodies you use fit well together initially.

Well yeah, we're talking as we already have melodic and harmonic material that actually sounds good by itself.

For the automating effects, I was watching a video where a guy used a Peak controller to automate the Bass frequencies, so that when the kick hit, a certain bass' frequency lowered making the kick more pumping. I guess there are multiple ways here, too...

Thanks Buoy, I'll keep practising on this, like I did when I was stuck creating melodies and progressions... hopefully I will get better at it.

At 3/8/13 03:52 PM, Buoy wrote:
You have to make room. Each instrument has to fit together with the entire rest of the mix, not just what you've already done. There are lots of tips and tricks on how to get a good mix but that's the main principle that you have to be aware of.
etc

Yes panning! Totally forgot about it, but it's another solution.

By the way I always do what you said: whenever I add a pattern/channel, I put it in the mixer and adjust all the frequencies, volume, etc. But I have a doubt: is it good cutting frequencies ONLY WHEN NECESSARY? Let's say I have this intro:

0:00 to 0:10 bass
then the kick enters.

The frequencies I should cut to the bass are for all the whole song, or only when needed? I don't know if you get what I mean but I'm really bad at explaining, sorry. Thanks for answering