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Bush had his chance to unite the united states of america during the war in afghanistan, after the events of september the eleventh.
However, he did not take this opportunity, and jumped into the war in Iraq, which he has been planning for years.
I do not beileve the nation will unite for many years to come because of this, sorry Kerry.

At 11/3/04 06:46 PM, hahahahahah wrote: One thing i noticed you had wrong - bush knew that the attacks on 9/11 would involve planes, and did nothing to strengthen airport security. But that's it.

Ah, I did not know that when I wrote that.
Also, im glad you liked my points... I will post more later, right now I have to do my homework.

At 11/3/04 06:46 PM, OmniLogic wrote: Who the hell is Ossama Ben Ladden, if this is a pathetic try at a parody joke then I'll have to compare your intelligence with a republican's

Osama Bin Laden is the man responsible in the septermber 11th attacks, the author of this topic just had a typo... I hope.
Also, crappy insults to the conservitave party such as "I'll have to compare your intelligence with a republican's" just makes you sound like a dumbfuck {and i am a liberal saying this so um.... good luck getting flamed by the republicans}.

Haha I hope you are joking, because that just made you sound like a fucking retard.

{NOTE: this point was directed to the starterof the topic, not the person who posted just before I did}

CONTINUATION OF POINT #2- IRAQ:
Also, I am fucking tired of hearing people say Saddam has and is willing to use weapons of mass destruction, there are two major problems with saying this:
1. Saddam Hussein has been captured already, so how could he STILL have weapons of mass destruction?
2. Every media station, inlcuding fox news, has admitted there were no weapons of mass destruction. the Bush administration has admitted this. more proof that us americans dont listen.

POINT #3- Misleading names on bills by the Bush administration:
This is also a biggie that is not mentioned much out in public.
Notice- the Bush administration has labelled everything very nicely, in some situations simply so that Bush could say them properly; I will list many of them now.

Weapons of mass destruction: This one was cleverly named to both terrify people, and so Bush wouldn`t have to mispronounce "Nuclear" anymore.

The clean skies act: its interesting that this bill has actually made skies more polluted then they were before, a perfect example of a misleading name.

The patriot act: ...is it really neccessary to add in the word "patriot" to make it sound patriotic??

No child left behind act: Once again... this backfired, and left thousands of children behind in their education/monetary funds.

I could name many, many more....

I will post more points later, for now I am curious to see the response to my little speech.

To those of whom it may concern,
I have seen many, many people over the past two years who have been horribly misinformed. I am not blaming this on any specific person, but I will say that both Micheal Moore and Fox News have played a large role in this.
I will explain the way I view politics right now as intellegent as I can, by explaining one point to another.

Point #1- September 11th
This is where I see the most fear tactics being played, by both sides.
This is basically what happened, summed up into about a paragraph:
Osama Bin laden warned us forehand that he was going to attack a major monument in the United States of America, but he did not say exactly where. president Bush got reports of this, and I am not aware that he did anything to prevent it {NOTE: I am not saying he did NOTHING , I am simply pointing out that I do not know what he did exactly about it; if anything. Then, a fine september morning, Al Qaueda Hijiacked multiple airplanes.
One was targeted to the Pentagon, it hit, and it did quite a bit of damage to the Pentagon building, killing many.
The other was beileved to be aimed at the whitehouse, but because of a few young men {and possibly women, mind you}, it crashed in some woods.
Now for the one we hear so much about: the two planes that hit the twin towers {world trade center}. Noone expected this. I do not and never did expect anyone to expect this. However, this was an obvious target coming from Osama Bin Laden, as he has tried to attack these towers before. Bush ignored that little peice of American history. everyone did. That right there is probably one of the most exxagerated slip-ups by the left wing, people saying that Bush knew that Osama aimed at the twin towers.
There were many things that the CIA did not plan well, however.
The date was a huge clue. the main police number in America is 911, the date was 9/11. See a resemblence?

After 9/11 George Bush installed the 9/11 commission, which did its job just fine, they are a major source of facts while I am writing this.
Also, George W. Bush attacked Afghanistan, in attempts to hunt down and imprison {if not kill} Osama Bin Laden. He kept his focus here. The country was United {unlike now}. Hell, we had ALLIES , there was even a headline for a major newspaper in france saying "We are ALL america now".... we don`t have anything close to that now.
What George Bush should have done is keep America and all the countries united, by staying after Osama Bin Laden.
If he had done this I would love him.
I would love the president, it would have been a landslide against John F. Kerry.
However, Bush had to go on with his former plans of going into Iraq and killing Saddam Hussein.
This is my next point, may I add.

Point #2: Saddam Hussein
Even before George W. Bush became president, after his father`s term as president, he thought it a mistake to go into Iraq and not kill Saddam Hussein.
He had plans of going into Iraq when he was running foroffice back in the year 2000. He was going to go into a war, get the nation behind him, get a major terrorist out of power, and get oil from the whole routine {oil was not the main cause; I don`t beileve it to be anyway}.
He had the chance to do all of this with the war in Afghanistan.
He didn`t stay focused on Afghanistan, and went into Iraq, transporting the majority of the U.S.A`s army there.
this, may I add, was a horrible, horrible mistake. we the majority of the alliances I mentioned before.

From Iraq, many people have died obviously, and a draft may or may not be instituted.

One of the worst things I hate about the misinformed americans is when they claim "Saddam was a bad man, therefore it was right to go to Iraq". It is fucking obvious he was a bad man, he was a HORRIBLE man.... that is still no reason to go to war with Iraq. Osama is bad too, shouldn`t our main focus be on him instead??
Another thing I hate is "Always support our president in time of war", which is an actual quote from Britney Spears.
That one quote is possibly the most retarted and uneducated statement I have ever heard a human being in their right mind say.
Listen up. think on your own. Always question decisions, don`t just think its right because everyone else does. This is a theory by the philosoher Plato, he wanted his students to question him.
Don`t you think we should start questioning a few things instead of trying to be stereotypical 'patriotic' rednecks?
I do. I for one am tired of the 'patriotic' bullshit.

Because I am nearing my character limit (for posting), Im afraid I will have to post my other points in seperate posts, I also apologize for any misspellings in here.
Discuss.

I just like plain chips with salt on them.
.....yes, I am boring.

At 11/3/04 12:20 AM, teh_1337_ownz_u wrote: GO FUCK YOURSELF!

This coming from a noob who has a name in 1337.

Fox news always gets things wrong; live with it.

At 11/3/04 08:03 AM, Carmilla wrote: I was too busy watching "The Daily Show". LOL Their special last night was great.

Hahaha, I recorded it, im going to watch it this afternoon.
Im glad to hear it sounds funny!

At 11/3/04 08:02 AM, Carmilla wrote:

At 11/3/04 08:00 AM, BastardBoy wrote: I swear to FUCKING GOD if i hear the word bush or kerry again i will kill every person i see.

Bush. Kerry.

Sorry, but you asked for that.

Hehehe its like I made a double post only by using someone else.
weird.

At 11/3/04 08:00 AM, BastardBoy wrote: Shut THE Fuck UP !
GO HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS SHIT !!!!!!
I swear to FUCKING GOD if i hear the word bush or kerry again i will kill every person i see.
</RANT>

Bush.
Kerry.
Also, those results must have not been official; because right now it is considered too close to call.

At 11/3/04 07:44 AM, Peter90688 wrote: Theres no way Kerry can win, he would have to get 100% in the next votes coming in frmo Ohio. He hasnt gotten 100% in any area, its impossible. And the fact he hasnt conceeded, thats just sad and immature.

It is funny that you claim it is sad and immature that John F. Kerry does not resign, when you have not brought up Ralph Nader or any other third party candidate.

I noticed the front page seemed a bit biased weeks ago, I really don`t care. It is completely up to tom and wade what to put on the front page, I don`t think that any of us would be able to help the fact that they support kerry (if they do).

At 11/2/04 07:45 PM, CrazytheClown wrote:

At 11/2/04 06:06 PM, Krosork wrote: Yes, and from the very recent polls, Kerry is winning.

Maybe in Bizarro-world. But here on Earth, Bush ain't doing too badly in the polls.

"Bizzarro"??
I beileve I saw that once in a funny episode of SeaLab 2021, yet that has nothing to do with politics.
Now, so far, Kerry is winning.
Don`t deny it, I wouldn`t deny it if he was losing

At 11/2/04 06:32 PM, DrunkenFUNKen wrote: And let me assure when you make those repeat spam topics, I will personally ban the living shit out of you.

And after reading this, I will personally promise to just post in one of those repeat spam topics, instead of making one.
(promise ^-^)

I'm going to an election party tonight, but I'm going to start a Kerry won gloating topic when I get back regardless of how many already exist.=)

At 1/6/03 04:55 PM, calmius wrote: Because they're gay and marriage is for a man and woman.

Marriage is the bonding between two essences intwined in love, let them be man or woman.
Marriage is obviously not just for a man and a woman, it can be for a man and a woman, a man and a man, a woman and a woman, a neither {see micheal jackson} and a woman, a neither and a man, and last and probably least {as this probably will never happen -_-} a neither and a neither.

At 11/2/04 06:05 PM, CrazytheClown wrote:

At 11/2/04 05:38 PM, BarferPro wrote: Mindless bull.

Give up. The election's practically over.

Yes, and from the very recent polls, Kerry is winning.

At 11/2/04 04:53 PM, earlofpie wrote:

If you don't vote republican you can burn in an abortion filled, married homosexual hell hole.

If you don't vote liberal you can burn in a war filled, natureless, intoxicated, hell hole.

bush)4
kerry)15
nader)1

I translated it via google, I still have no fucking clue what this means however:

To Bush go to the White House and impact Kerry on your head and say "Kerry is the LOOSE and I is President on fear moorland years" and Kerry cries and cries. To Kerry go to Edwards' bed and drinks Edward's man wassa and say "I and Edward is luswig".

At 10/24/04 05:50 AM, Relinquished423 wrote: Kerry supports abortion

Noone supports abortion, but if a woman is going to have an abortion, then why not use Stem Cell research to make people`s lives better?
In short, Kerry supports Stem cell research, get your facts straight.

he supports the war

So does Bush, and Nader is oblivious.

he supports every fucking thing

He supports Bush?!

kerry sucks

In your opinion.

dont vote for him

Bit late to say that NOW, isn`t it?

At 10/24/04 04:11 AM, BeFell wrote: OMG Kerry is a flip-flopping French loving hippie.

1. John kerry has no affiliation whatsoever with the French.
2. "OMG KERRY FLIP-FLOPS"?
...This is supposed to be an intellegent forum, where we dont say stereotypical things such as this.
3. John Kerry is not a hippie, I doubt you have ever even seen a real hippie.

If he's elected he will turn our soviernty over the the UN

Making alliances with the united nations is bad why exactly?

start a hug a terrorist campain.

"I will hunt down, and kill the terrorists."
~John F. Kerry

Then he will have thousands of babies murdered because he belives eating their remains gives his skin a heathy glow.

....Again, noone likes abortion, but sometimes it is neccessary. And noone would use a fetus` corpse for vanity.... the thought alone sickens me.

At 10/24/04 12:03 PM, red_skunk wrote: ... Kerry sux.

Back up your claims with facts please, also this is just your opinion.

waffle. waffle.

What does this have to do with politics?

At 10/27/04 08:02 PM, Goldencat wrote: oh my gosh, did you guys see what that genius Kerry did?

Kerry voted to raise the gas tax by FIFTY CENTS PER GALLON. Check it out here. I'll tell ya, once you figure out his position, Kerry is a pretty scary guy.

OMGOMGOMG FIFTY CENTS! WHATEVER SHALL WE DO?
Get over it. fifty cents is barely anything, but thanks for supporting your facts. you actually raised a good point, but I do not really care about gas prices.

1. Super flash bros.
2. Tom fulp
3. Ozcar
4. That_Is_Bull
5. Synj

Oh yes and sorry to double post, but I want to add something to what mastershaked said, and say that humanity will bring its own demise, I highly doubt nature will.
Nuclear warfare is a possible cause of humanity`s "suicide", and a very likely one at that.

Also I would like to thank the creator of this topic, it taught me that im not alone with my beileifs, and got me to get quite a few things off my chest to say the least.

...Please, dont commit suicide. I see your purpose in life.
I share the same beileif as you, I made it myself, yet it seems nearly exactly the same, when shortened, it basically is just that humanity considers themselves better than the rest of the world, when they are not. I have been trying to convince people of this for months, you are the only person I have seen so far who thinks this as well, its no reason to commit suicide.
Think about it, if you die, noone will care, the human race will keep fucking up the planet. ast least try to do something about it.
please.

Im not sure if what you wrote meant that you were contemplating suicide or something, but it sure soudned like it.

If I could vote, I would vote for Kerry.
I have many reasons why... i would explain them better if this was in the politics forum.
Oh yes and I beuleve this is the right time to post this political poster I made using real footage of GW bush:

At 11/2/04 02:50 PM, Sean_Connery wrote: mole implant, not the animal.

Again,
It depends what it is wearing.

At 11/2/04 02:38 PM, Sean_Connery wrote: Can a mole be sexy?

Depends what it is wearing.

I dont like foamy, pretty much everything on Nickelodeon, daytime cartoon network, Fox, PBS is too boring, disney channel.
Some shows on Cartoon Network are really overrated in my opinion, like Sealab 2021, or Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
Oh yes and I dont like Futurama, Simpsons are becoming too cliche and re-used for my taste, DragonBall and DragonBallGT both suck, I still find DragonBallZ slightly entertaining.
I also hate queer eye for the straight guy, Pokemon, there is also one show on comedy central I dont remember the name of, its "shorties something something", I think its shorties watching shorties. its about two babies attempting stand up comedy, that show sucks ass.
I also dislike most of the romance movies on the spanish channel, its pretty much if you have seen one, you have seen them all.
I dont really like the Brak show, on adult swim usually, but it has its moments from time to time.

I got 166 miles per hour.