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Response to: Bass Amp = Subwoofer?! Posted May 7th, 2009 in Audio

If you're mixing your music to be listened to with a subwoofer, then master it on a subwoofer.

If not, then don't.

Response to: New Kingbastard Ep! (available Now) Posted May 5th, 2009 in Audio

Track 4 has the single greatest title for a track ever, and it is worth buying the EP for the sole purpose of having such a named track in your collection.

Response to: The Reason Thread Posted May 5th, 2009 in Audio

Just jumping in on this one, assuming the topic.

It sounds like you think your music doesn't sound 'loud enough' compared to most other tracks. The reason for this is compression.

That being said, the fact your music doesn't sound like others is probably a good thing.

Commercial music these days is compressed beyond all levels of understanding for various reasons. They actually do compress tracks to make them as loud as possible for the purpose of making the music sound worse.

Yes. You heard me. Though that's a bit of a rudimentary way of explaining it, let's look in depth at why this is.

The playback method for music has changed a lot in recent years. The rise of MP3 players and other portables means that people are lisning to music on their own in a wholly different way. Tracks are being equalised to sound their 'best' on earbuds and other sound-isolating mediums.

Earbuds are not great for volume, they have tiny, low powered amplifiers with a high SNR in the lower amplitude (volume) ranges. Having a higher general volume means tracks can avoid distortion. Also, earbuds have rubbish bass, and as such tracks are compressed to isolate bass sounds so they ring through as if they were being played by a dedicated subwoofer.

This of course means that tracks, when played properly sound muddy and over-compressed. Why do recording studios not optimise their levels for a real set of speakers? That's where the money comes into it.

The only way that you can hear a track properly with the dynamic range that would naturally occur with a song is to hear it live. Although this, of course, applies less to electronic music, essentially speaking artists make their music sound shit when recorded in a studio to make their live performances and club recitals sound better, when other factors such as crowd noise, distance from speakers and room shape would otherwise make the track sound a lot worse.

Have a look at your track in a waveform viewer. A modern mastered track from pretty much any band or artist you can think of would look like a solid block of waveforms with little to no discrimination in amplitude levels from one part of the song to another.

On the other hand, a correctly compressed and EQ'd track would have very clear differences in amplitude in different parts of the music.

If you want your track to sound as good as possible, mix the stereo effects on a good set of headphones, then EQ and compress your track on a set of good quality speakers with a subwoofer.

Response to: The Audio Forum Lounge Posted May 5th, 2009 in Audio

Wow, I'm gone for a while, come back and nothing has changed.

Hear me? Nothing. Has. Changed.

Sure, you've got your RSS dohinkeys and zero bombers, but they've always been there - and everyone on the forums (including myself) really enjoy complaining about it.

There are flaws - big ones too - in how the audio portal works. From the voting system that is nothing more than a glorified, weighted 'like/dislike' system, to the over-easiness to just run down a list of tracks and hit the zero button on every one, but without a dedicated major redesign, this is not going to change anytime soon.

So instead, why aren't we using the audio portal as it should be used? Dump our stuff, let others hear it, tell our friends online and on the forums to have a listen and fuck what that militant 13 year old with a twitchy voting finger does with it!

...Coincidentally, how is everyone? Any of the REALLY old regulars still hanging around?

Response to: Audio Advertisements! Posted May 5th, 2009 in Audio

Oh lawdy, I vanish for a few months and suddenly you get all these link things. Rucklo, what have you been up to, my good sir.

Also:

  • Khuskan - Fifteen Seventeen
    Khuskan - Fifteen Seventeen by Khuskan

    Click to listen.

    Score
    4.36 / 5.00
    Type
    Song
    Genre
    Dance
    Popularity
    220 Views

and a locked groove for the ladies:

  • Khuskan - 1517 (Loop)
    Khuskan - 1517 (Loop) by Khuskan

    Click to listen.

    Score
    2.84 / 5.00
    Type
    Loop
    Genre
    Dance
    Popularity
    12 Views

Response to: The Audio Forum Lounge Posted January 24th, 2009 in Audio

Oh god what the fuck what the fuck I haven't been here for a while what happened to the old one

what is this I don't even

Response to: Oboes are gay in major? Posted June 23rd, 2008 in Audio

At 6/23/08 12:35 PM, Fuoco wrote:
At 6/23/08 10:37 AM, Khuskan wrote: Wow, you're ignorance of the English language amazes me.
Don't be an ass, I can hardly speak english properly and you want me to know about ancient english?

No, but I half expect you to understand some level of sarcasm.

Response to: Oboes are gay in major? Posted June 23rd, 2008 in Audio

At 6/22/08 04:33 PM, Fuoco wrote: Rimsky Korsakov says oboes sound gay in the major scale.

ctrl+ f: gay
How the hell does a melody/instrument manage to sound gay?
This was written decades ago, I don't think he was allowed to say that in his legendary book.

Typo or not, it's funny. What do you think he really meant?

Wow, you're ignorance of the English language amazes me.

Response to: Reason 4 and rack/rout connecting Posted June 21st, 2008 in Audio

At 6/21/08 04:06 AM, Darren-M wrote: can anyone out there offer me a link or instruction about how to do this or even just tips

please help.

It's simple to understand that the path of the wires go where the sound is going, the problem I've always had with Reason (and it's my main piece of audio software) is that it does get pretty confusing on some devices.

The best bet is, if you get confused, rip everything out and start again, going from sound source through effect in/out until you get to a mixer. Try to order your devices on the rack in the direction the sound is 'moving', otherwise you get wires everywhere.

Response to: Quick question Posted June 20th, 2008 in Audio

There's a voice acting genre IIRC

Response to: hmm Posted June 20th, 2008 in Audio

Ableton is made for live performances. As a stand alone sequncer, it isn't that great.

Have a look into Reaper - Fully featured multi-track sequencer.

Response to: Found a great new program Posted June 20th, 2008 in Audio

At 6/19/08 06:07 PM, SymbolCymbal wrote: Shit i run on OS-x mac it only werks fer windows......

"FUCKING WINDOWS 98 ...... GET BILL GATES IN HERE!!!"

.... you're moaning because you cannot run hammerhead.

You can run garageband and logic.

Why complain?

Response to: Reaper sequencer Posted June 20th, 2008 in Audio

At 6/19/08 08:44 PM, Epicness wrote: But how many options does it give to the user looking to get to the next level from say FL Studio and wants to get more advanced techniques to create better audio?

It's got all the options of professional kit - It easily rivals Cubase and Logic in it's feature set.

Response to: Banned from the Reviewing Posted June 19th, 2008 in Audio

Because no song deserves 0, and no matter how to back it up, it still makes you look like an asshole.

Premade loops are allowed on the portal as long as they are legal to use under NGs license. Sure, working entirely from loops is questionable, but there are some great musicians who do it such as Daft Punk and Lemon Jelly. It's just another technique.

Also, you're not doing yourself any favours with moderating staff by going around saying 'This song was stolen' in the review. If you want to get something done about it, contact a moderator in private.'

Response to: What program do you use? Posted June 18th, 2008 in Audio

http://www.reaper.fm/

Fully featured audio sequencer, supports everything that you'll ever need to use.

Free trial is unlimited. If you want to use it to submit to NG, you should purchase a non commercial license ($50) out of good faith.

Response to: Taking Suggestions For The Next Mac Posted June 18th, 2008 in Audio

At 6/18/08 12:16 PM, Deflektor wrote:
At 6/18/08 11:54 AM, Khuskan wrote:
To tell the truth, i would say that if the next MAC was to be without restriction, i suggest the contestants create a song rather than submit an older work. The purpose of the MACs is also to show one's skill. I don't see the point in submitting an older work when you can submit a better song.

Well perhaps work of nominations as opposed to people submitting their own. Ok, sure, it would be more like a yearly audio competition, but just because stuff is older doesn't mean that anything you make later on is going to be better!

Response to: How'd you think of your music name? Posted June 18th, 2008 in Audio

Because I played homeworld 1 when I was 14 online and had to come up with an internet handle for multiplayer.

I chopped up the name of one of the playable races, the Kushan and added in an extra K.

It's awesome because it's unique. Googling it only results in pages upon pages of me.

Response to: Suggestion for Audio Listing Posted June 18th, 2008 in Audio

Haha, mine isn't that big :-P.

It's not the size, it's how you use it.

Also, stop using IE if you're getting slow down.

Response to: reason sequencer Posted June 18th, 2008 in Audio

Reasons sequencer has always been so so, and there are various 'improvements' in the v4 sequencer that have actually been quite poor decisions in my opinion.

The biggest would be that you now have to have EVERY piece of midi data in a clip, meaning you can't just stick notes where you want them and group them up later.

Vector control over CVs is nice though.

Reaper sequencer Posted June 18th, 2008 in Audio

Reaper is a relatively new sequencer along the veins of Logic and Cubase with a complete stack of features for Windows and Macintosh. It is the single most awesome thing to happen to home musicians for a reason I will shortly reveal.

Reaper is capable of running VST/VSTi's, Direct X plugins, it can record live audio on multiple channels, has powerful piano roll and wave editors, and full ReWire support. It's extremely user friendly (Far more so than Cubase) and being mainly developed for PC, it should be attractive to all those first-timers who have no idea what a command key is. It is, by all means, a very competent sequencer as far as things go, and I'm hard pressed to find any features that Logic can do that Reaper cannot.

Now here's the best part. If you want to purchase Reaper for commercial use, it's $255. If you want to use it non commercialy, it's only $50.

If, however, you're new to audio and are unlikely to be making any full tracks in it any time soon, the trial version is COMPLETELY UNLIMITED, giving you a real chance to try before buy. That's right, besides from a short (6 second) 'Click here to purchase' message on boot, there's no time limits or technical barriers that will stop you from using it to its full potential.

I'm thinking that the Reaper team realised that, no matter how much time they spend trying to pirate-proof something, people will eventually work out how to bypass it and it will be up on bittorrent in a few weeks, and this is a good thing, as not only means that you can learn to use it for free, but it also means that they spend more time on the important aspect of learning to use the software.

Why am I bringing this here in some huge advertising like tone? Back when I regged these forums, we were forever hassled by new musicians trying to find the ultimate free sequencer package - and now there more or less is one. They can download the trial, learn how to use it, then cough up $50 to license it for non-commercial use which covers the NG license. It's perfect, its cheap, and if everyone starts up on the same gear, then it will start to generate it's own powerful user base who can solve each others problems.

Anyway, without any further stalling, here's a link to their website.

Oh and the download is only 3.2mb, as if things couldn't get any better.

Response to: Taking Suggestions For The Next Mac Posted June 18th, 2008 in Audio

I might be a bit crazy here -

But how about about a general music, unrestricted MAC.

Let people submit any work they've done in the last say, two years on the basis that it has to have a score of say, over 4.3, then duke it out to find the best audio portal song EVER.

It's about time that all this new development in NG actually pointed back at some of the older audio works :P

Response to: back from ze audio TO. meetup! Posted June 4th, 2008 in Audio

Chron, there are not enough people in that bed with you.

Response to: Lookin for some good techno music:) Posted May 16th, 2008 in Audio

At 4/22/08 12:20 AM, Super-Da-Mario wrote: Im pretty sure shes a girl... anyway you have way to many music for me to listen to.

The denial is strong in this one.

Response to: I need new head phones! Posted May 16th, 2008 in Audio

REAL sound techs just Beyedynamic DT 100s. They may be ugly as sin, but jesus they're the most comfortable headphones I've ever worn.

Response to: The Audio Forum Lounge Posted May 5th, 2008 in Audio

Random question not deemed worthy enough for a new thread:

What is the most used song on the audio portal?

By that I mean in flash... The most used one I've found has 125 uses. Any other ideas?

Response to: The Audio Forum Lounge Posted May 5th, 2008 in Audio

At 5/5/08 09:22 AM, WritersBlock wrote:
At 5/5/08 09:08 AM, Khuskan wrote:
At 5/5/08 09:07 AM, Khuskan wrote: We are approaching 100 page get. Brace for epic.
Oh shi- I meant 1000.
The flash lounge celebrated with 30 cat pix. What will we do?

Write a song about it.

Response to: Electronica Idea! Posted May 5th, 2008 in Audio

At 5/4/08 03:21 PM, howtokillamonster wrote: back to my idea, well obviously fruityloops is a midi intergrated program, you make your beats through a midi sequence. my thought is that if i make a beat (with my mouse, as i do not own a midi keyboard), and then i plug a microphone into the laptop, and run my laptop through performance speakers, will i get the sound of my beats through the speakers, and is it possible to while the beats are playing and the microphone is plugged into the laptop, could i start the vocoder, and synth and run my vocals through it while singing to make my voice vocoded?

Short answer: No
Long answer: Sort of yes but still mostly a no anyway
You can do a live vocoder using Rewurshel (part of Asio4All) and Reason 3 or 4, however to get it to work effectively you would need to have the following:

-A very fast processor - At least a dual core
-A quality microphone with a low gain to reduce feedback, plugged into a fast audio input device
-A midi controller to give some playing ability
-Anything other than laptop speakers.

Even then, you're still going to be getting at least 2ms of latency between saying things into your microphone and them coming out the speakers, which can be very off-putting. Also, Asio4All uses up so much processor power, you are unlikely to be able to use the same computer for playing backing audio.

Response to: Mac8 - Music to Motion Posted May 5th, 2008 in Audio

Are there any alternate ways to get this video rather than megaupload? I can't download from that god awful site at any reasonable speed :(

Response to: Starting A Business? Posted May 5th, 2008 in Audio

You're unlikely to get anywhere in the recording industry without having your own studio and equipment. You won't make any money off renting space and equipment as it's just too damn expensive.

Instead, try to work your way up the pyramid of making money in audio recording (in order of cost):

Busking > Hired performance > Travelling DJ > Sound for live events > Recording at live events > Studio Recording

Response to: Vista + Laptop = Help! Posted May 5th, 2008 in Audio

The problem isn't Vista. Lo and behold:

Realtek High Definition Audio

Try to update drivers for the laptop motherboard (good luck with that) or more specifically, the sound card. Also check in your control panel that you only have one active sound device. It could be that the laptop was incorrectly set up and it thinks it has more than one input.

Ultimate fix would be to get an external sound card though, for example an Audiophile.