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At 3/17/03 07:41 PM, NJDeadzone wrote: lol nice one! Yeah we don't answer to anyone. We don't need the French permission to let terrorist nations persist. Do not make me cite my german shepard. And we certainly don't need these small toilet nations either. We're so caught up in trying to please everyone that we're holding our own balls as the searing sand blows up our skirts...

but by attacking iraq it makes us in violation of the UN... the very THING that we are attacking IRAQ for doing... im not the only one that sees the irony behind this right???

personally i think the UN should be re-worked and re-made to suit the post cold war world...

At 3/17/03 09:49 PM, TheShrike wrote: Hmmm... Arrogant cliquey shit....

Right to assembly, anyone?
Even if those in the cliques are stupid, that's also a right of theirs, if I'm not mistaken

good call shrike (or should i call u the???) anyway, its the same thing as the anti-war protesters are allowed to protest, cuz after all the guys fighting are defending the protesters right to protest the very war the military is fighting... I LOVE IRONY...

OK, im sick and tired of the fucking french jokes...
lets not forget we begged them to help us during the revolution. and to all the assholes that think the freedom fries idea is great, french fries were made in belguim, when the fries got to the US the guy named them wrong.

i want to know why we are all making fun of a country that finally got sick and tired of letting the US push them around, god forbid anyone develops a backbone against the US...

also the 'coalition of the willing' is a fucking joke, the people of britian and spain and vastly against this, and if the leaders help it could very well be the end of their careers...

i enjoy the fact that the US and any country that attacks iraq will be in violation of the UN, the very thing we are going to attack iraq for doing, so in conclusion:

france = reason the US is not Canada
french fries = made in belguim, named wrong by American
american cheese = called 'idiot cheese' by france
war with iraq = violation of UN = what saddam is doing
saddam killing own people = turkey and israel do too

sadly yes...

although that too was sarcastic...

oh you are a sly one... you are

theshrike i was just fuckin with ya... i thought the cybernetic implant laserbeams was a joke...

one more example of internet sarcasm gone bad...

At 3/16/03 10:41 PM, TheShrike wrote: Or maybe it'll just be a few more centuries before we have to kill rats with our cybernetic implant laserbeams, because the fleas they harbor could kill with one bite.

sounds good... especially the cybernetic implant laserbeams... they almost sound like REAL words...

At 3/16/03 09:18 PM, jimsween wrote: Actually this does have alot to do with politics, see its a metaphor think of Mai as george bush, the game as the war on Iraq, and penis as cluster bomb.

Ok it has nothing to do with politics but it was worth the try.

Kudos for the attempt... the judges score:
France: 0.8
Russia: 1.3
Iraq: 0.0
Britain: 100.0
Canada: 7.9
Germany: 1.1

tough break on those judges though...

wow this was funny in my head, but now that i look at it, it is much less funny

*sits on La-Z-Boy*
*grabs hoagie/sub/grinder/whateverthefuckucallitwhereurfrom* *turns on pay-per-view to watch girls gone wild uncensored with the PIP box on this*

At 3/16/03 01:40 AM, Jlop985 wrote: The problem (for you, that is. I see it as a blessing.) is that we care too much about human life. Maybe you do not have a disabled relative of friend, but I have had one. They are people too, and have much to offer the world. Sure they may not be able to survive on their own, but we need them just as they need us. So take your nazi eugenics ideas and put some thought into them, because they are seriously flawed.

We care TOO MUCH for human life? then why are u bitching too me about this topic?

what happens when the parents of the challenged kid dies? then he will be tossed into some home that is paid with taxpayer dollars that could go to education or something else that helps more people. (scientifically speaking people with down syndrome have an extra chromosome TECHNICALLY making them another species... sorry but that is how scientist classify the different species, for example if a dog has 48 chromosomes that scientists will call it a human, gratned bad example but it proves my point)

how do we need them as much as they need us? you are wrong, if i had to live with a challenged person i would have to stuff for him that he could not do for himself.

i have put thought into this and it would give more money, more food, more resources to the healty?

oh and calm the hell down, its just a question, so dont get all pissy at me for wanting to rid the world of crippled, retards and the rest...

OK, we are all aware of Darwin and his natural selection talk... my question is which is better side: Natural Selection OR Medicine. I could be politically correct but dont really give a fuck anymore.

Natural Selection would say: Cripples = Fucked... Retards = Screwed... Cancer = Death... AIDS = dont even think about touching me... Polio = kids are dead... and there are millions of other diseases that should kill people but medicine keeps most of these people alive...

Thomas Malthus wrote that the world's population would increase at a rate that the food supply could not meet, so the logical thing to do would be let the people that should be dead, die off and let the healthy survive and thrive without much problems...

i am also aware of the mathematician (i think) that figured out that with 6 billion people in the world we couls all live in China and have 5 feet of personal space, which would mean that 30 billion people would, in China, have 1 foot of personal space...

i saw an episode of Sliders on Sci-Fi a few days ago, and the world they landed on took what malthus said to heart and basically played population control... the city (san fran i think) was a peaceful relaxing town with a mere 100k people, crime was reduced to nothing and less people meant less competition for resources which is a good thing...

feel free to state your beliefs....

At 3/16/03 12:59 AM, Jlop985 wrote: I wonder how could a judge and jury be so ridiculously stupid? Is there like a certain part of the country that these people come from? We need some common sense in our justice system. We need some common sense in our people too.

sadly the justice system has become a lottery for the stupid... a trial is no different that a political race, its not about the facts its about who looks the best and how easy the story is to follow; the average US juror watches 17.5 hours of soaps a week, almost 1 out of every 7 days is spent watching soap operas, the jury likes an easy case, the who, when and why, people dont like to think... sadly common sense doesnt exist anymore, natural selection has come to a halt, the stupid guy that flies off the road cuz he left his RV on cruise control while he went away from the seat is given money to re-imburse him whereas 50 years ago he would have been laughed outta the country...

i dont know who said it but, "The amoutn of intelligence in the world is steady, the problem is the population grows." sadly this could not be more true...

At 3/16/03 12:02 AM, swayside wrote: recently, there was a limit set on the amount of so called "pain and suffering" amounts involved in lawsuits. an example of this would be, "my mom had a heart attack because of this whole ordeal so you have to give us more money". the limit was set to 200,000 dollars. what do you think of this? personally i still think it's too much.

the limit is 250k i think... also pain and suffering is more than that, its if a doctor screws up and gives you the wrong heart and lungs then you can sue for the medical bills and the 250k pain and suffering, the rationale is the limit will stop the multi-million dollar suits that raise everyone's insurance and cause in some places doctors to leave the field, good theory but if you have a mother lose her newborn how can you tell her that due to incompentence on a doctors/nurses/hospitals part she can only get 250k, granted its not the best of examples but it helps my point...

also, on the subject of law suits, can anyone give me a good reason to file one? not a hypothetical situation, but what is the purpose of one?

someone else causes u a problem, would be the simplest way to put it i guess... the other way is use this case... the erin brokovich case from the movie: a factory is dumping chemicals into a towns water supply, that was the original intent of suing, and if a doctor screwed up in the sense gave u the wrong medicine and those kinds of things...

personally i think it is impossible to know how much pain and suffering should be given... ask people with children if after their kid was born and something happened because the doctor/nurse/hospital screwed somethign up if 250k would be enough to help them get over their loss...

At 3/15/03 01:05 PM, panik wrote: No it was good thats why I put the smile face. Man nobody can just take a compliment any more.

its not so much people cant take compliments, its just that so many people are sarcastic its hard to tell the difference sometimes...

especially when u cant see the person.

At 3/14/03 01:42 AM, SickJester13 wrote:

:Whats this pretentious bullshyt changing the name of food, what kinda stupid crap is that i really think france cares we changed french fries and french toast to freedom fries, this like when they changed that name of Hotdogs during WW cause they didnt want the german named frankfooter you think we get over our selves after so long but some shyt dont change at all!

first off i would like to say to you welcome to the forum...

second let me tell you that you are basically a pain in the ass...

you base your whole little rant about how something is so stupid, yet are giving it the publicity that you are bitching about that it already has...

and personally, whats the big deal if they change the name... even if they are called french fries and french toast but dont originate from france... oh yeah and french kissing is supposedly being called freedom kissing... so hey let that special someone know a kiss with a tongue is a kiss with democracy...

At 3/14/03 12:22 AM, implodinggoat wrote:

At 3/12/03 11:30 PM, Jlop985 wrote:

actually the whole reason the book of revelations,if im not mistaken, is to help people know how not to let it happen.

The book of revelations is bullshit that the Catholic Church added to the Bible in the middle ages to scare people into following the church, kind of makes you wonder how much the Catholic church edited the bible over the years.

what you mean like how at one point Jesus goes from 12 to 30 in the new testament...

do u have any proof to ur statement about the middle agesand the book of revelations...

although i wonder if someone were to take Nostradamus' book of prophecies and the book of revelations and see if they are anyhow linked in prohecies...

well that makes, sense... unfortunately ive gotta co-oridinate the presidents side to this... i will be finding out tomorrow hopefully for some of the parameters....

Ok, here is teh deal... at my school, Roger Williams University, in the political science department, we have 2 American Presidency classes and a Congress class... for the end of the year the Presidency classes have to convince the Congress class to give the President war declaring power... (sadly though the format hasnt been established yet...)

What I am asking for is really 2 things... 1) anything you can think of that would be useful... 2) what are all of your opinions on this topic: should the president be allowed to declare war? (despite the fact that the prez basically does now anyway...)

So... does anyone have anything to debate?

I have to say NO... never censor anything... UNLESS it falls into the category of assualt, then its illegal, i hold the first amendment to mean EVERYTHING...

well then i suppose im wrong... oh well, not the first time...

At 3/12/03 11:11 PM, Murph_Dogg wrote: So i'm the bad guy now?

noone is the bad guy... but i disagree with your rationale

I realize that opinions in this world don't matter any more.

this whole FUCKING board is to state one's opinions... dont bitch to me when yours are shot down... u have to remember the freedom of speech works both ways... if you state an opinion be ready to defend it because there will always be people that disagree with u...

All you fucks out there can do is shoot me down for thinking Gerogey boy is an idiot.

no i shot u down for thinking the dozens of other things u put in ur previous post... none of which referred to bush's intelligence... personally i agree, i did not/do not think bush was the best man for the presidency (based on his 2 failing business adventures and only being governor of texas for 6 years as opposed to Gore who was a senators son, and senator for over 10 years...)

In the end, Americans are going to die, and "peace" will begin.

so what is ur point? yes we are all well aware of the casualities of war... i also know that there will be many more orphans after the war then at the beginning of the war,

Then what?

then we see if bush and his followers were right or the opposition was... it is possible that bush is right and in 5 years we are seeing CNN in baghdad celebrating their 5 year anniversary of independence... its also possible that 5 years from now iraq is in slightly better condition than it is now... nobody has a crystal ball, so sadly we have to wait...

Obviously no one is with me that oil is a key player in this. And that its matter of defending the country and that I'm a moron.

its just the simple fact that we are all SICK and TIRED of hearing how bush is doing this for oil and only oil... i understand how u can logically make the arguement, but a new thread everyday saying the same thing just gets annoying...

personally i dont see it as defending America, as much as fixing another country... but i think the US should be a policeman of the world, solving injustices all over the world... but then again i think it should be everywhere NOT just SOME countries...

you are not a moron, these are your opinions and odds are they wont be changed... but if you thought that typing your opinions without consequences was going to happen then yeah you are a moron...

What is it really about.

what is what really about? im serious i am confused by this question...

I watch CNN and read Adbusters,

what is adbusters???

You think your better than me because you can wave your numbers around and rationalize everything to keep yourselves in the dark.

Please tell me that you arent mad at me for using rationale logic and debate to argue your points... cuz if that is what you are implying then please never come here again...

The world has problems, war is not the way.

ok what should we do with Iraq? and North Korea? and then Iran? (Iran doesnt have nukes YET, but they are trying to build them as soon as they can... taking a page outta the NK playbook... the US wont bother you if you have nukes...)

At 3/12/03 11:30 PM, Jlop985 wrote: If you are a supposed Christian, then at least clean up your language.

im not a christian, doesnt mean i cant read the bible though...

Also, since we cannot stop the events of the last days from occurring, then we must look at the world as it were never to happen. Expect the apocalypse, but don't let it change your views on world events.

actually the whole reason the book of revelations,if im not mistaken, is to help people know how not to let it happen... i know that is the rationale behind Nostradamus' book of prohpecies, only problem is noone can decipher the prophecy until after the fact...

i like living... so armageddon affects me, and i dislike having to fight the final battle... but hey thats me...

It is funny... dont feel bad for laughing at it... although I still dont understand why the Brits sent the Iraqi troops back... i think that is odd... (and i swear to god if i hear one person say its so there can be more bloodshed i think ill find them and shed some blood...)

i still think that Saddam will use some chem weapons on some of the invading armies... and despite popular opinion Bush uses a nuke and destroys Baghdad... and about 25 years from now when the country starts being rebuilt, armageddon begins... somewhere in the book of revelations it says when Babylon is rebuilt the end times are begun... (i know most people are anti-bible and such but hey, we be screwed...)

babylon=baghdad
baghdad=nuked=eventually rebuilt=we are so fucked...

OK, excuse my lack of knowing, so how do I get myself to be a member of this crew?

At 3/12/03 10:33 PM, Murph_Dogg wrote: What is wrong with you people? Bush is doing what ever he wants and the UN won't stop him.

Well, the UN has to be remade. It was created Post-WW2, in a bi-polar world, USA & USSR... now the US is the big guy on the block... this will prove the question does teh US need the UN or the UN need the US?

If the oil in Iraq doesn't go to us then who then, hmmm?

Western Europe and Japan (these are called the strong-points of the rimland,[the strong-point of the rimland is very important to the US] i can go into more detail if anyone wants me too)... approx. 50+% goes there anyway, Russia and France both have mutli-(b)million (i cant remember the exact numbers) dollar deals with Saddam... which is why they are both against an Iraq War.

The US is going to setup the new government and be pulling all the strings. Do you people not see that?

Yeah politically it will be the US's baby, BUT finacially will be supported by France and Russia, so in about 25 years it will be 'exciting' to say the least, how that country reacts to an international incident, where the camps are seperated...

You jack asses say I spout psyco babble, but what is the underlying truth here?

that you are a very strong-minded liberal that started hating bush cuz he's a republican, then won the election (granted i dislike the way he won too, but he did win) and you will never like him no matter what...

Do you deny that the US consumes the most oil and that the Bush adminastration is radical and not at all concerned with fuel emisions!

Okay this is a 2 edged question so lets do this rationally Question #1: Do you deny that the US consumes the most oil You are right, the US consumes the most... Question #2: Do you deny that the Bush administration is radical and not at all concerned with fuel emissions? The Bush admin is not radical, in the sense that they are trying to change the system of government... granted they are VERY close with some things (Patriot Act, Homeland Security Act) but this is still a democracy so calm down... well the big donors to them are the oil companies and energy companies that pollute... ya cant bite the hand that feeds you... im sorry but that is politics guy...

This country is fucking hopeless! Go watch MTV and join the masses, douche bag!

The country is not hopeless, if you are so pissed off then do something other than bitch and moan at newgrounds... im really starting to get sick of all the damn threads that are the same thing... i mean i enjoy keepin my skills sharp but JESUS FUCKING CHRIST do something else...

i dont watch mtv... i dislike its anti-playing music video agenda...

I have to say this is a damn good idea. Also I have to say how cool it is to be thought of in the same respect as the others you have stated. In fact when I started reading your post I was wondering if I would be allowed to or not, and I must say that I am very pleased to be in here.

Well if im not mistaken... French Fries and French Toast are from America... the creator of the food just called them French...

does anyone have any proof to disprove/prove me?

personally i think its stupid... god forbid people do things that the US govt dont like...

At 3/10/03 02:09 PM, panik wrote:

the first part of this im not going to attack because i agree with Mr. Daniels on his dont cut the military out. i am under teh belief that this is charlie daniels of the 'devil went to georgia songs' if not then i basically sound like a know nothing moron... but if it is the whole reply makes sense... so if im wrong let me know and i will be happy to be the first one to flame myself...

Why, you bunch of pitiful, hypocritical, idiotic, spoiled mugwumps. Get your head out of the sand and smell the Trade Towers burning.

i enjoy how your using 9-11 for political gains, the very thing that ur boy W. said he would not do but does... but its ok cuz the media are a bunch of pussies...

Do you think that a trip to Iraq by Sean Penn did anything but encourage a wanton murderer to think that the people of the U.S.A. didn't have the nerve or the guts to fight him?

Ok, personally i think it was stupid of him to go, but the media didnt have to go with him... perhaps ur yelling at the wrong thing... Rumsfeld went to meet that very same 'wanton murderer' but i suppose we all forget that cuz he was our ally then... I keep forgetting killing people with gas when those people are Iranians or kurds are ok... until someone needs to fight with Saddam... and the most ironic thing is WE GAVE HIM THE VERY WEAPONS HE USED... i love political irony...

Barbra Streisand's fanatical and hateful rankings about George Bush makes about as much sense as Michael Jackson hanging a baby over a railing.

Streisand did make a good point that nobody has yet to disprove... Saddam didnt make 9-11 happen... cuz he didnt... of the 19 hijackers 15 were from saudi arabia... 0 from iraq... and what are we doing? going to iraq... makes sense... also last time i checked it was ok to bash the president... lest we forget clinton and how much of a fan the republicans were of him... SO SHUT THE FUCK UP when it comes to the 1st amendment... god forbid anyone speaks their mind...

The next 3 paragraphs i have nothing to say because it is basically who you ask... Mr. Daniels have those very people ask some of the 500k that protested the war in NYC the very city hit, along with Somerset PA, and the Pentagon... So basically YES different people will have different views, this is nothing new...

You people are some of the most disgusting examples of a waste of protoplasm I've ever had the displeasure to hear about.

For doing their 1st amendment right of freely speaking... perhaps we should get rid of this little inconvience so we can be better ready to handle war...

Sean Penn, you're a traitor to the United States of America. You gave aid and comfort to the enemy. How many American lives will your little "fact finding trip" to Iraq cost? You encouraged Saddam to think that we didn't have the stomach for war.

actually i think they gave him aid and comfort... why does it matter if he goes to Iraq... does any nation doubt the force of the US army... besides Saddam knows from Vietnam that the public will not support a long drawn out war with many casualities, so all he did was went to Iraq... big fuckin deal, so did Rumsfeld but you say nothing...

You people protect one of the most evil men on the face of this earth and won't lift a finger to save the life of an unborn baby. Freedom of choice, you say?

We are not Pro-SADDAM you incompetent fucking moron... the world is not black and white, like you would prefer, probably to kill all the black people you dirty hick... i disagree with the technique Bush is using to go to war... i want osama to be captured and killed not saddam, OR even Kim Jong Il.. cuz he HAS NUKES... america was built on not agreeing so FUCK U u god damn dirty ass-fucking DELIVERANCE wannabe...

Well, I'm going to exercise some freedom of choice of my own. If I see any of your names on a marquee, I'm going to boycott the movie. I will completely stop going to movies if I have to. In most cases, it certainly wouldn't be much of a loss.

OK... why is it so wrong to stand up for what you believe in... just because you disagree? should the country turn into a single mindset, and get rid of those that disagree? i think that happened before... the guys name was Joe something... ah yes, Stalin. So fine lets round up all the people expressing their freedoms, much the same way you are by boycotting their movies, and kill them or send them to Siber... Alaska... cuz ya know America doesnt need any of those 1st amendment people...

You scoff at our military, whose boots you're not even worthy to shine. They go to battle and risk their lives, so ingrates like you can live in luxury. The day of reckoning is coming when you will be faced with the undeniable truth that the war against Saddam Hussein is the war on terrorism.

actually i have the most respect for those that put their lives on the line... i personally dislike the idea of being shot at, which is why i want to go into the political arena and change things... the war on terror is not a WAR against SADDAM... Kim Jong Il is a bigger threat to the US than Saddam... why are we not doing anyhting about THIS?????

America is in imminent danger. You're either for her or against her. There is no middle ground.

This statement is the reason i hate the Pro-war people... The world is not black and white... you are a fucking moron if you believe that... just because i think North Korea is going to hit us harder than Saddam can or Osama has doesnt mean i am Pro-DICTATORS, it makes me Pro-TAKEOUTTHEBIGGERTHREAT... because i enjoy the Bill of Rights does not make me Pro-TERRORISTS, it makes me a bigger patriot than you, wanting to live in a land where i have the right to say the government is wrong, without consequence other than pissing off people is a place i want to live in and die in...

I think we all know where you stand. What do you think?

I think you are Pro-Dictator in not questioning the President... idly following someone is not the way I do things and never will... im not saying being pro-war is bad or wrong, its your personal belief and that is what makes the US great, everyone can say what they want and when they want... if you dont like it discuss it... but why is it that on this issue we are not allowed to question the president?

also i love the 'devil went to georgia'

Although it would be nice for michigan, a state with 18 or so electoral votes and one that the parties actually care about winningwould start the races and would show that big states do matter in the primaries... since california's 55 EV's go to the already announced winner BUT the party bi-laws are set up so that the primaries will always be the way they are...

Remember their are actually 102 political parties... each state has a DEM and REP party... and then the National DEM and REP parties...

We only have until armageddon comes... the Book of Revelations (I am well aware that its the Bible) says the world will end when Babylon is rebuilt...

Babylon = Baghdad

Baghdad = gonna get nuked after the US invades and Saddam uses his chemical weapons on the invading Marines...

World = FUCKED by 2015