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i read ur link... and there is no talk of Saddam's inner circle... just Iraqi officials...

that could be like a fucking luitentant for the army that surrendered early... and he didnt want to be arrested and taken as a POW...

could also be an Iraqi general... but we are unsure of who it is..

At 4/17/03 11:02 PM, TheEvilOne wrote: War with Syria is NOT imminent. Sure, they may be doing a lot to irritate us right now, but as I said before, we know when to quit.

what are they doing to irritate us? and the only time the US knows when to quit is when 70k body bags come back...

:Besides, karasz, you admitted that it's not exactly the most unbiased news source.

thats just cuz im not a fucking moron, and i mean if i didnt say it someone else would have...

Besides, it's starting to look like Syria doesn't want to irritate us too much. Here is a report that they may be about to expel some members of Saddam's inner circle.

what has syria done to irritate us to begin with?

At 4/17/03 10:46 PM, jimsween wrote:

At 4/17/03 07:24 PM, sabrewulf wrote: Man north korea has some balls...picking a fight with the U.S and all..

Actually they have very little balls, mostly everything they say is just threats. Kim just wants attention, thats why he keeps dragging his feet.

i dunno man, having 2 of ur fighter jets chinchill next to a US spy plane in international airspace is pretty fucking ballsy...

but ur right that lil kim jsut wants some attention...

At 4/16/03 02:53 AM, bumcheekcity wrote:

At 4/14/03 04:48 PM, Xellos_the_Mazoku wrote: I don't mind anti-war protesting, after all, it's protected by the 1st Amendment.

If shagging goats was protected by the 1st Amendment, would you be fine with that too?

yes... if it was protected by the first amendment then YES...

OR would u rather deny people their first amendment right?

let me know it should be an interesting answer for ya

nothin... canada will still rely on the US to defend it from outside sources...

and the US will still be the top army in the world..

so in conclusion canada is pissed at the US and nobody cares

i dont understand how u can be angry at people that are just exercising their 1st amendment right...

i mean that is the only thing everyone can agree on about the first amendment, protesting is allowed...

NONE of the elected officials support the troops... CONGRESS and the PREZ have cut veterans benefits by $25 BILLION over teh next 10 years... SO $2.5 BILLION LESS a year... and its not like they get that much to begin with...

SO anyone care to explain this brilliant idea?

At 4/17/03 06:18 PM, FUNKbrs wrote: if one side of a fight has a tactic works, then the other side will quickly copy it. democrats rely on passing laws to look efficient. in order for republicans to look efficient and "stamping out terrorism" they have to pass a bunch of laws increasing the power of homeland security.

true...

doesnt change the fact that they are breaking from a political belief that they all viewed even when they made the Dept of Education and Veterans Affairs, the best thing is they just cut veterans benefits $25 billion over the next 10 years... great way to support the troops, congress and the prez...

2 things...

first FUNKbrs, come on the government trying to MONITOR its citizens... this is America, we dont monitor our citizens, next ull be complaining about the govt passing legislation that violates the bill of rights OR something...

secondly why is it that the conservatives that have held the view of smaller govt role have expanded the government?

http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2003-04/17/article08.shtml

ok i know its islam-online, BUT still shows that Perle wants the admin to go into Syria...

At 4/17/03 01:00 AM, implodinggoat wrote: Nope hes right it was Johnson. He took over for Lincoln and took a rather lenient stance on the south. This pissed off the so called "Radical Republicans" in his own party. Thus they impeached him although the final vote to remove him from office failed as it did with Clinton. Following Johnson's term his party nominated Grant who while he was an excellent general had no bussiness being in politics. With Grant in place the Radical Republicans were able to do as they pleased.

johnson was a democrat... and clinton missed being removed by like 6 or 7 votes... right down party lines

jimsween FUCKING brilliant...

i wish i could say more... but i mean how do u top that?

-George Washington: hey, he set the bar...

-Thomas Jefferson: i hold many views that he did (like sleeping with ur slaves is a personal favorite)

-Andrew Jackson: he was a politician but acted like he wasnt, pure genius

-Teddy Roosevelt: the big stick policy, and come on TEDDY BEARS are named after him... he had to rock as a president for that

and thats it...

i play it all the time...

here and in classes, and in this group called CHASE im in...

hell even in conversations, i play devils advocate all the time...

probably y i dont take sides on issues...

got them all... 11/11

go fucking me...

polisci classes are a cinch...

At 4/16/03 02:49 AM, bumcheekcity wrote: The 'Oil for Food' program forces the Iraquis to give the US Oil, otherwise everyone starves. The result is the Iraquis get just enough food to survive (let's face it, none of the people I have seen on news videos look well fed,) and the US get loads of cheap oil. It IS a win-win situation, but I'm sure the Americans like the program more than the people it's supposed to be helping.

actually it is a UN program... also britian and france are much more involved in the oil for food program... AND 75-80% of the mid-east oil goes to japan, britain, france, russia... (called the strong points of the rimland...)

umm... the reason israel exists is cuz of the US... well its really cuz of the UN.. but its been proven the US IS the UN so there...

and as long as the US is still #1 they will influence every country they can to keep it that way

scariest thing to do would be put bombs in mall trash cans then have suicide bombers at the exits...

granted it wont blow up a city... but that is a haunting soon-maybe-a-reality...

personally i wouldnt mind if the US removed all dictators... but if they are going to, they should be fucking honest about it... of course that will never happen...

anyway... next is syria, they are harboring saddam... then lebanon cuz syria is tight with lebanon... then jordan becomes a democracy... next onto saudi arabia... thus causing teh rest of the arabian penisula to turn democratic...

OR my theory... the whole penisula forms into 1 fundamentalist nation bent on hating the US...

At 4/16/03 01:06 AM, UNpossible wrote: I want to join the political council, but I still have no idea how...

they CALL u...

not that it matters, cuz im sure ive pissed off enough people in both groups to not be accepted into either...

if i cared that would bother me

At 4/16/03 01:29 AM, TheEvilOne wrote: The new Iraq will be much more democratic than the old one, no questions asked.

true...

Some Iraqis are complaining about the idea of the US running an interim government, but the bottom line is that Saddam is gone, and a new government controlled by the Iraqi people will soon be in place.

how is it controlled by the iraqi people when the entire govt in controll was not voted by the iraqi people and has been living in europe/us for the past 12 years?

People question whether the Iraqi people will accept Western democracy, but the Iraqis will choose the form of the new government. It may be similar to American democracy, but it will be built with Iraqi interests in mind.

for the next 5-10 years the US will have ultimate say over who is in control of the Iraqi govt... so now we control the kuwait vote in OPEC and the Iraq vote once it is in...

At 4/16/03 01:30 AM, BinLadenmustdie wrote: Hmmmm. Look like N. Korea is acting a bit more agreeable after our manhandling of Saddam. I thought the Iraq war was supposed to make Kim Jong Il more aggressive, possibly starting WWIII? It's amazing how step-by-step the anti-Bush crowd is wrong, wrong and wrong again.

so wait... we are going to be holding talks with a guy that is no different than saddam other than his military being way better, and having nukes...

yet he is still a dictator letting his citizens die whilst living in luxury...

At 4/14/03 04:48 PM, Xellos_the_Mazoku wrote: I don't mind anti-war protesting, after all, it's protected by the 1st Amendment. BUT, what the 1st does NOT protect is civil disobedience. It really pisses me off when protesters get violent because our cops have to watch THEM rather than looking for terrorists. The big crowd of people who are blocking supplies from getting to our troops need to be removed, forcibly if necessary. Hindering our troops is not protest, it is wrong.

civil disobedience is by definition NOT violent... hence the fucking word CIVIL...

protesting is protesting is protesting... u might not like the methods but they are exercising their right to protest...

What really gets me though, is how these people are protesting for peace, yet Saddam Hussien is waging war on the Iraqi people, killing them by the millions and terrorizing them to stay in power?

then lets arm the IRAQI people... why has nobody else thought of this brilliant idea? we arm/train them... THEY take out saddam EVERYONE is happy...

These people are protesting for peace, yet they injure police officers?

yeah, but lets not forget cops injure protestors too... its a 2 way street, sadly... also lumping all protestors into 1 category is the same as me calling all the pro-war people drunken red-necks...

These people are protesting for peace, and yet they loot and vandalise.

the iraqis have no more saddam in power and they LOOT and VANALIZE... so y are we not also complaining about the iraqi people looting and pillaging...

These people protest for peace VIOLENTLY? That in my book, is hypocrisy.

but a war to achieve peace isnt hypocritical?

At 4/16/03 01:11 AM, whyme04 wrote: Will USA bring democracy to iraq??? my thoght is that the iraqies will refuse it...but some wil laccept it and maybe democracy will be put up in iraq...i dont know why it needs to be now that mad man died but...i think making iraq a democracy can make further problems, such as: them getting angry with us about tax's...us getting angry with them not obbiding the law well enuff...and stuff like that...Respond to this!

ok first u say iraqis will refuse it... BUT some will accpet it... its one or the other man...

um... people understand that taxes need to be used to pay for the govt to provide at the very least police and military...

well right now they are in a state of total anarchy... wait about 3 months until the marines calm things down in baghdad and looting drops... THEN complain about a democracy...

besides AS long as the leader of the iraqi democracy is backed by the US... IRAQ will be a democracy... and then with the US controlling the kuwaiti rulers and the iraqi rulers... before u know it OPEC is pretty pro-US...

lets just remember that the 2nd amendment was created for the sole purpose to make sure that if the GOVT got too greedy the citizens of the US would defend themselves....

and believe me, anyone tries fucking with my inalienable rights will meet their demise with a face full of lead...

At 4/16/03 12:51 AM, UNpossible wrote: Perhaps no one told you, but when you make a topic on the Politics BBS, you are EXPECTED to make a intelligent statement, and back up your arguement, which does not mean "I make assumptions that are automatically correct!"

yeah but that is the purpose of the politics crew, and political council... to find posts that they dislike and blam it into nothingness... thats how they will control things... and all i gotta say is there is nothing u can do to stop them... cuz even if the stupid posts go away then they will find stupid replies to flame and cause the post to suck until the whole politics forum is controlled by one of them and ur either part of the crew/council OR at another forum...

i love paranoia...

i was hit... until i was like 8, then they took stuff from me... like my tv and video games... or try to ground me... but im one of those kids that even by myself i can still have fun, and i drove my parents nuts when i was stuck inside the house they basically rescinded all punishments just to get me the fuck out of the house...

but i knew everything i was doing and i knew it was wrong... i jsut didnt care...

and i am quite the normal behavioral person...

also am i the only one that DOESNT take pills or see a therapist?

and 90% of blacks vote democratic... and im not sure of the actual make up of the south but im pretty sure there are a lot of blacks...

also... if the national democratic candidate was in good with the NRA, then the south would MAYBE go to the democratic side... but until that happens the south will have local dems and national reps

At 4/15/03 11:32 PM, MadMax501 wrote: now that we are setting up a new government in Iraq, and will hopefully keep friendly relations, do you think we'll be viewed differently? Before this, the only country we had very good relations in that region was Israel. Do you think Iraq's new found love for us will bring reformation in other arab nations, or just more animosity?

it wont change the view... we are still the guy everyone hates for one reason or another, but also the guy everyone knows can keep the peace between the rival nations...

its not a love for us... its a love for no-dictatorship... thats all, dont get mixed up about stuff like this...

well it will be a jumping off point... next syria, then lebanon, then jordan, then kuwait, then saudi arabia... after saudi arabia the rest of the penisula will fall... but the question is, will they become democracies OR will they just fall into fake democracies that will be waiting for their 'hitler' to use the USA as a scapegoat and have the region fall back into oppressive regimes...

At 4/15/03 05:57 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote:

At 4/14/03 11:25 PM, karasz wrote: How is going after Cubans going to make the US safer?

In case you haven't noticed, Cuba is an enemy of the USA, and they are closer than any other rogue state.

so is FUCKING AL-QAEDA but where is OSAMA??? OH thats right osama doesnt exist anymore, ONLY saddam exists, and since he isnt going to be found, GUESS what, it will be someone else...

Sorry if that doesn't agree with your anti-american propoganda, fool.

im not anti-american... just PRO-THINKING... and i know that Cuba is considered an 'enemy' but jesus fucking christ what for? cuz they are communists? `there are many other MORE dangerous countries to the US than fucking CUBA... like NORTH KOREA, which has not been talked bout by the BUSH administration since the Iraq thing came up... saudi arabia has more ANTI-AMERICANS than cuba does... yet we DO nothing to saudi arabia... but CUBA we have sanctions on... makes great fucking sense to me...

And another thing... what makes me anti-american?