At 7/6/08 11:26 AM, Memorize wrote:
At 7/6/08 07:13 AM, kalmikii wrote:
To believers against abortion: If God REALLY wants to bring a child into the world he COULD prevent the abortion (almighty?). And if He has created us, He has also created our future: If He also created the world, He prevented us from having free will. That's because the world and it's people determine the things we do. Without free will, anything goes EXACTLY how God wants, so when you (a believer) complain about abortions, you attack against God's will.
A few problems.
1) You're assuming that all Christians believe in pre-destination.
-Actually no, but Christians believe that God created them and the world --> created the future.
2) You're assuming that God created all of the future.
-Well, by creating the world, YES, that is bound to happen.
3) How are you attacking God's will by complaining about abortions if that event was already written by God for you to attack and complain about abortions?
If anything, #3 is doing exactly what God's will entails if you do believe he writes the future and all of its events before they happen.
-Yes, I know that's controversial (So is the Bible..). But either way you do it, according to Christian beliefs, it is pointless. And the problem here is the fact that no matter what, it's controversial. So is my comment and I aknowledge that. But if you read my points CAREFULLY, you should understand
where I'm aiming at. God wants you to rebel and at the same time doesn't.
And finally...
#4: You assume that all of those who are against abortion do so for religious reasons.
-NO I DO NOT. "To believers against abortion: ..." -That's how my comment BEGINS! My comment was solely written for believers.
And by the way, I was a Christian when I was a child, so I know quite well the main points. Now I'm happily an Atheist.
Really? How fascinating. Keep me posted when you take a shit.
-That's for people saying "you can't critisize religion if you don't know what it's like". So really, if you want to be an asshole, do it somewhere else.
