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u forgot the most importants that are food and water.
the overpopulation is also a problem due evolution is not made by the stongest or smarter, but it is who MATE more, and the people with more money/studies/culture/inteligence (those who are capable of mantaining a family) use to have less children, and the poor/stupid people use to have a lot more, so peoplo who should be having more children isnt and the people who shouldnt be having children is (at least in the % they should), possible solutions... steriliziation... new laws about breeding (if it were a way to make them be enforced).. u tell
for more info see the movie Idiocracy, which is a nice example of this.

the should make them sterile, that way the can sell more slaves, and prevent their overpopulation, same thing that can be aplied in some places because killing them would be "atrocious"

The title should say who "We" are

things always seem to be the best quality if they're made in the US, meaning that we won't have as many broken pieces of shit in our landfills if we manufacture products here.

Lol, us manufactures are not the best quality by far.

If u want more us factories u should chance the inmigratory politics, at lest that u are willing to work for that salary, companies will always try to profit, thats capitalism, having the less construction cost

u should specificify who is "Our" in ur post

And btw this topic has been seen here many times, u could write there instead of makng a new post

Read the thread first! Understand what its about Then your welcome to post again.

Im always welcomed to post, like it or not, and i dd read them, urs only have the difference of starting from an even more false point

At 1/18/11 11:34 AM, Korriken wrote:

At 1/16/11 12:10 PM, kakalxlax wrote: justice is just revenge with a socially accepted name

To give someone the prescribed punishment for breaking a prescribed law is not revenge. to do someone wrong for doing you wrong is revenge.

Thats exactly what it is. law is the sense of justice of someone who died years ago, and u do something bad to him/her according to his crime, a bill, time in prison, comunity service, death penalty.
With the other type of justice tipe of justice, revenge (which only difference is that its liked or not but that person how already died) u also do a crime/punishment balance.
The only difference is that the current power benefics go with calling ur revenge justice or not

At 10/1/06 05:45 PM, ZeroAsALimit wrote: It was a great country once. Whenh Peron was in power.

You need more men like him and more women like Evita.

Oh ye im bumping but this needed to be said.
Argentina had the potential of replacing usa a world potence the peron took the power and destroyed every posibility of progress there, bringing ppl from the country to the capitol to get the votes of ignorants what created the lowest class that now form the "villas" and creating the "negros villeros" (which is totally different from "black" as african), it is refered to hive minded gun pointing burglars who are payed from taxes money to vote the peronists and literaly be a shoke force against any protest against goverment. So not only they get payed for doing nothing
Making short term politics that make everybody think that everything is ok but destroying the economy in a large term.
Peronists made of argentina a country ruled by moblike unions (as guild)
Aaaand where the first (at lest in argentina) goverment that used a big nasty media manipulation to discredited everybody who is against them, now even more obvious with the new "media laws"
So what argentina needs is to erradicate all signs of peronism

As the strawberry of the cake....... peron was nazi

u had a stupid sex ed teacher, circumcisited ppl is a minority, not even close to be expected

justice is just revenge with a socially accepted name

At 1/15/11 12:42 AM, Jon-86 wrote:

At 1/15/11 12:37 AM, camobch0 wrote: I'm atheist and pro-abortion, so this argument is totally invalid.

No its not, your a neutral thats taken a side.

Ur an idiot....
Typical american thought that ur group is the only one "america is the world" lol, there are other groups religious or not, and i dont think that all catholics and all protestants thinks the same way.
Aside that it shouldnt be seen as a religious or moral issue, it should be seen with logic, its like saying "u can kill ppl fron certain age" murdering a 40 years old means life prison, a 30years old 20 years, a 20 years old 10years and a 10 years old its called choice... ye the "choice" of killing someone.
I dont say that abortion should be legal or illegal but if it is also murder should be, they are not independent stuff.

And btw this topic has been seen here many times, u could write there instead of makng a new post

Seriously though, the Bible may be unreliable, what can you possibly have to back up your claim to the contrary?

Ur right thats why ppl shouldnt believe in things that doesnt respect the logic, because that way anyone can say anything, thats one of the things that makes religion stupid.
If ur interested about the taxes stuff internet awaits for you

Then the Pharisees went out and laid plans to trap him in his words. They sent their disciples to him along with the Herodians. "Teacher," they said, "we know that you are a man of integrity and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. You aren't swayed by others, because you pay no attention to who they are. Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay the imperial tax[a] to Caesar or not?" But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, "You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? Show me the coin used for paying the tax." They brought him a denarius, and he asked them, "Whose image is this? And whose inscription?" "Caesar's," they replied. Then he said to them, "So give back to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's." When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away.

The other ones are in Mark and Luke.

So u take that from the evangelions which only were founded like the 10% and were edite by roman while making the new bible... ye thats reliable
Religion is made to control people, thats not in discussion, so do u think that romans would want ppl to think its wrong to pay taxes, i dont think so
if jesus was turned to romans is because ppl know that if u protest against then they will kill u, and that what happened

Ok, so no proof

I think you should post your opinions on www.reflectquote.com! :P

Thanks

Though the Romans didn't generaly pick religious leaders (of whom they all thought were absolute quacks) and kill them. The idea of an alterior motive - civil unrest caused by preachers of other religions losing followers, his criticism of social hierarchy including the strong anti-samaritan sentiment held by Judeans - would seem likely.There's no documentation of him causing anti-roman violence and his historicle references are breif, but the Roman slant seemed to be that he was daft and harmless.

As i said, he was killed for repliying against roman taxes over jews, basicaly for beeing a ol´ timie hippie thing

in fact; Judas was so pleased he hung himself in traditional Jewish celebratory manner.
how much blame can be placed on the Jews when this whole betrayal, death and resurection thing was planned before time and couldn't happen any other way?

Again... proof?

JC said so, homes.

Ok, so no proof

in fact; Judas was so pleased he hung himself in traditional Jewish celebratory manner.
how much blame can be placed on the Jews when this whole betrayal, death and resurection thing was planned before time and couldn't happen any other way?

Again... proof?

Uh they turned him over and were cheering when he was nailed to a cross (i.e. Judas)

Proof?

At 1/9/11 01:03 PM, SolInvictus wrote:

At 1/9/11 12:30 PM, kakalxlax wrote: In fact israel conceded territory in exchange of peace, ofc muslims didnt honor the deal, it was matter of time still jews get a country, england offered that territory since jewish people always had a link to it

good god, its SB all over again. run Avie; fucking run!

Stupidiest message ever

This is not an argument about the "stupidity" of religion. I think people who say that religion is for idiots are just as bad as people saying that everyone but them is going to hell.

Not even close of meaning anything, that kind of people sais "live as i say or u will be eternaly punished", ppl who sais that religion is stupid is criticizing the ppl who tears apart logic, and still lives with primitives concepts of the universe ignoring the evolution of society and science

At 1/9/11 12:54 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 1/8/11 01:09 AM, kakalxlax wrote: Well they dont have what we call "democracy" properly said.

So? There are other acceptable government systems then democracy. There have been some monarchies that were actually quite beneficial to it's populace for instance.

I said that because some people sais that they have a rightful government cuz they have a democracy but they dont do it as we percive democracy, only people with money and muslim can vote, ur basically beeing gunpointed while voting, and there is no control over the voting chambers so the votes are shifted

and the responsables about the inocent palestianian deaths are the terrorists,

Shouldn't the people who kill innocents in pursuit of these terrorists, especially since those killing them have a much more superior military force also bear some responsibility as well? I'm in no way saying all, but I'm just saying you're telling me that we can blame the terrorist solely and the trigger man has no responsibility at all for the ending of that life?

If u kill my family and i shoot u and in that moment u grab an inocent and use it to cover urself from the bullet to make everybody else im the bad guy, ur the guilty.
Terrorist most abundant resource is human flesh thats why they expend it as it were no tomorrow, even teaching young children to be suicidel bomber, and isnt that other way to killining inocents? palestinian an israelis

they are victims or a war they started and that they involved in it using them as human shield,

They are indeed victims of a war. Bad things happen in war I get it. But it also takes two sides to have a war. Are you taking the satanbrain position that once they become "human shields" they are no longer of consequence as they've become a tool of the terrorist, even unwillingly?

If israel dont get a part of that war they would be beeing killed, they took the defense position, they were attacked, but i guess every nation need a independece/fundation war.

plus they are killing innocent israelis

Which I think betrays who you really give a shit about in all this...to me, an innocent person is an innocent person. Nationality or citizenship has no bearing on it whatsoever.

I ment they are the responsables for the innocent palestinian and israelis deaths

At 1/9/11 12:49 AM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 1/8/11 01:17 AM, kakalxlax wrote: So if u say that jews lost their right of that land because of getting kicked then jews can gain back the right by kicking muslims (although is was rightfuly english territory)

It's what's in parentheses that is to me the crux of the "is Israel legal and right?" argument. Because that was British land ceded to them...but even at that with things like "Tower and Stockade"

we see Israel from the start bending the laws to acquire more territory.

In fact israel conceded territory in exchange of peace, ofc muslims didnt honor the deal, it was matter of time still jews get a country, england offered that territory since jewish people always had a link to it

I thought Jesus saving us was not so much a "I will end all evil and ugliness!" but more "I am freeing you of sin, now you can have a place in the house of my father". That was my understanding anyway at the most basic level from Christians I know. In the end what Jesus did was purge mankind of things like "original sin" and allowed them a shot at a better world, but they were still going to have to make that happen themselves.

So basically he came to earth to die so we can go to heaven, how killing someone allows people to go to heaven? if u kill the devil maybe or someone really evil seems logical... or more than
-ok lets say everyone that jesus was god or something
-but wait he died, gods arent supposed to die (in monotheist religions)
-ok......mmm.... lets say he died because... i dont know... ye bacause that way people can go to heaven
- -_- that doesnt make any sense
-c´on we live in a primitive society it the ol´ times baby ppl here believe anything
- muahahahahahaha
- muahahahahahaha

And thats kiddo, its the way it started

So what? Seriously, so. the. fuck. what? They got kicked out at one point and many different people have held the territory and called it different things.

So if u say that jews lost their right of that land because of getting kicked then jews can gain back the right by kicking muslims (although is was rightfuly english territory)

Jesus divinity was not some sort of secondary message he came to spread. According to Christianity, he came not to heal some blind beggars or tell us to be cool to each other. He came to die on the cross, to save mankind.

Have u seen the world and the consecuences of christiance existence? we can hardly say that jesus saved anything

I don't say "meh" at all. I am deeply concerned that they'd vote in people that think violence is the answer. I made that clear. But what is there to do then? I mean, are you actually suggesting we just kill them all and have a Palestinian genocide? Then how are we any better then the assholes who want an Israeli genocide?

Well they dont have what we call "democracy" properly said and the responsables about the inocent palestianian deaths are the terrorists, they are victims or a war they started and that they involved in it using them as human shield, plus they are killing innocent israelis

It's a JEWISH rail line, built upon Palestinian land. [... ]The train was initially to be built on Israel land, but using Palestinian land was a shorter route.

It doesnt exist such thing as "palestinian land", it not s sorveign territory so, that doesnt make any sense

This thread is about Israel being a Jewish state and thus for Jewish people. I don't feel any state is entitled to this sort of attitude of only really wanting a people of a certain faith/heritage and that the premise on which Israel was built was false. Now what's done is done etc. etc., but I don't feel the rhetoric of "God's land for god's people" should be used to justify it.

So what if its a jewish state, there are lots of christian/catholic and islam countries and i dont see u protesting about that, and in israel u can live perfectly even be involved in politics beeing from other religion when in many countries literaly they hunt and kill ppl from other religion, islam still now and christians not so much now but its a wealthy part of their history

ok, pm if u need me for it

At 1/3/11 07:46 PM, killaboy69 wrote:

At 1/3/11 07:33 PM, kakalxlax wrote: This is obviously made up, but funny though

Why!? Why would you bump this.

He linked this in other newer post

These "Jews" are Christians. Jews today believe that Jesus was just an ordinary man claiming to the be the Messiah, and when he died, well, he died. He's dead. He ain't coming back. False alarm.

In fact jesus never claimes to be the messiah

seems interesting, but its a comedy, drama or whot

At 1/3/11 01:45 PM, SirCannabisClock wrote: Yeah like, he could recruit 300 villagers and fight to the death against overwhelming odds.

XD XD XD

i could, but ull have to specify a lil more about the kind of story

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