At 8/9/08 04:49 AM, jarrydn wrote: But my heart belongs to synthesis. If I had a choice between a creaky old Jupiter 8, or any number of shiny, expensive rompler workstations, I'd smack my money down on the Jupiter. If I actually had to go out and get a rompler, I'd go for the JV-1080 (for practical reasons), but would much rather prefer a Korg M1 or 01/W. I dunno...I just have a boner for 80's workstations and synths.

I don't quite know where I'm going with this.

you've got every right in the world to hate romplers...

but you may change your mind after hearing demos like the one's on this page:
http://www.projectsam.com/Products/Symph obia/ (click at the top right after the short logo animation)

does something need to be synthesis for it to require extreme amounts of skill and ability to make expressive textures...? evidently not.

At 8/9/08 06:17 AM, jrhager84 wrote:

At 8/9/08 03:49 AM, joshhunsaker wrote: lol, i crack myself up. sorry - i just really really couldn't resist the urge on that last post. can you blame me?

Hello pot, have you met kettle?

I don't remember calling you any names - I was being a little bit facetious really. Anyway - I know that you know what you're talking about (anyone who actually owns something like a UAD card typically does) but it was just rather funny that this happened two posts in a row.

At 12/12/07 03:22 PM, Nav wrote:

At 10/31/07 09:39 AM, Sp1r1T wrote: Nexus

Sucks. Romplers are gay.

korg triton.......gay??? fantom xr......gay?????

i really hope not. oh well.

lol, i crack myself up. sorry - i just really really couldn't resist the urge on that last post. can you blame me?

At 8/8/08 07:29 AM, Archon68 wrote: Once again, I mention that I'm looking for AUDIO HARDWARE, as in MICROPHONES and RECORDING DEVICES. You people don't read at all...

yeah, the people here really don't know how to read half the time.

HERE LET ME THE SEEMINGLY ONLY COMPETENT PERSON HERE PROVIDE AN ACTUAL ANSWER (gee does this thread look familiar, anyone?)

you would like:
EMU 0202
Lexicon Alpha
Blue Snow Ball (usb mic)
Samson C012
Rode Podcaster
Photon X25
Zoom H2

um...presets are there to help you.

you people have to remember that "classical" music is simply nomenclature attached to a specific period of the world's time to separate different genres and feelings that tended to be conveyed through each specific group of composers which depended quite a bit upon the instrumentation available, the political concepts, state of economy, and distribution of people into classes or castes. Saying you are going to compose "rock" music isn't as similar as saying you are going to compose "classical" as most might think - rock typically always signifies a genre or music...and classical typically does not. If you are truly trying to create "new" music that isn't a rehash of the musical/phrasing/harmonic/structural concepts that were introduced with each new artist of the olden days (the classical period specifically - because that's what's being discussed), then you are really not composing "classical" music but "modern". The correct word would be to say that you are composing (or scoring) orchestral works - not just writing classical music.

At 8/5/08 01:08 AM, zellers wrote: K... but the AP rules state, that no copyrighted samples should be used. I'm just wondering though, because now, I do have rights to them.

Yes, the reason for that is because your music goes under (for this site only, you can have your music under mulitple licenses depending on the terms YOU decide upon) a creative commons license.

That means - even though you DID buy the samples and get the copyright for a specific purpose, you probably can't place them here because that would then enable people to access your work with those copyrighted attributes under a license that allows them to make modifications to the song and then re-release it under their own name - which I'm sure the label you contacted would not approve of (even it is non-commercial).

you need a better vocoder and a better microphone/preamp/ad stage...

At 8/4/08 05:48 AM, xXDathDalerXx wrote: studio monitors are overrated...people don't listen to music on studio monitors, they listen in their car, on their PC, on the stereo system, on a walkman & now even cel phones
it's impossible to master a song so that it will sound perfect on all systems. & even the monitors don't all sound the same
& that's why they make various bounce tracks to test on different systems when mastering a song, the monitors become irrelevant, thus why audio devices usually come with an EQ

and that's why there is such a thing as auratones....professional engineers aren't stupid. Also the reason you tend to see multiple pairs of monitors on the mixing desk of most studios as well as differences of near to far-range monitors and usually headphones.

unless you're using massenburg/algorithmix/eiosis/flux/waves /ssl software or the scope/uad/powercore really really high quality (and very expensive) type cards or actual mastering-grade hardware and systems like pyramix or sequoia to finish up your tracks with...I would probably refrain from calling what everyone does here, "mastering".

Throwing a pair of akg 240's on and putting FL's peq2 followed by a random freeware compressor on the master buss is about as much "mastering" as is riding in a soapbox racer and calling it "driving a car".

http://www.reasonstation.net/

At 8/2/08 06:49 PM, Arbiter wrote:

At 8/2/08 03:56 PM, JocolateMuffins wrote: I need some music and ill sing to them or rap.

Let me summarize my thoughts:
You're a 15 year old male - most likely in puberty.
This means that your voice will be inconsistent and undeveloped.

I take it you've never heard of things like the vienna boys choir?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GabHGlGm 14

pure awesomeness...

At 8/2/08 01:53 AM, Smurfbeatz wrote: Well...the guy gave me a good review. I thought he was a judge. I thought I had a chance. Now I'm smitten....:(

you, uh - love him? huh?

At 8/1/08 02:05 AM, DJGameFreakTheIguana wrote: I'm Cool, I'd rather get low scores on my own Style of music, studying Underground Hip-hop and Video Game Tracks then vice versa, studying Wack ass pop-idils and MTV/BET Rappers

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Pop stars seem to have the worst rap in the world, yet somehow their music has made it through about huge amounts of ridiculously stringent filters (when was the last time a big label gave you a phone call?) while still coming out on the top of the EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Pop stars are doing something right - much to the disagreement of most people here. Nobody, however - would like to own up to that fact, which is where the paradox lies. The fact is, most people believes their music is better sounding, better mixed, better mastered, and more smartly constructed than the "popular" stuff.

Sorry - but it is not. Truth is, there are still plenty of pop stars I would rather listen too than the best of the best around these parts, but a HUGE part of that simply has to do with the fact that those guys have ALL the gear and were smart about marketing themselves and knowing how to appear as an appealing investment to labels and such. That's the difference. I'm sure if I gave rig a pcm91, dynaudio monitors, halcro amps, UAD cards, virus' and andromedas and moogs and a cad equitek - he'd be bangin out all-star work by the time he learned the subtleties of each piece of gear.

Truth is 99% of the people here have/exclusively use/stole FL Studio as their workhorse and simply cannot afford the nice stuff at all. And those free synths? Well, unless you've got tons and tons and tons of experience under your belt - don't expect to fool people into thinking you've got a Fantom XR unit sitting in your rack with the freebie stuff (except maybe very possibly Helix, but that's going payware soon anyway...so, yeah) I have yet to hear a song that just completely blew me away that was made without rather expensive amounts of payware.

Takstar PCM 2400

best $25 I ever spent on music gear. not even joking.

if you want your music to not sound like crap, then you need to study the people who's music doesn't sound like crap. Namely - the "pop stars" that everyone seems to hate, yet eerily get so so many requests and rave reviews when the radio stations come calling for opinions after piloting them...

"Rough Cut"

Electronic/experimental
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1 61950

it's a song I made probably 3 months ago and forgot to post.

At 7/30/08 11:09 PM, cornandbeans wrote: cornandbeans-Departed

I might submit something extra tomorrow if time allows.

well, I guess I won't worry about my chance of winning anymore...

At 7/29/08 07:09 PM, Gloudas wrote:

At 7/29/08 07:03 PM, joshhunsaker wrote: My entry here:

"Saved at Last"

thought your entry was can't hold on? cause that one kicked ass

yeah, I thought I had entered that one but then the original thread got locked and in the fray - I was forgotten...

that's okay though. I made a new one - more fitting for the genre as well.

My entry here:

"Saved at Last"

At 7/29/08 08:03 AM, jrhager84 wrote: Labels will fuck you. End of story. My knowledge in this area is FAR too vast to cover in a single post, but my advice to you is this:

Do as much as you can to stay away from labels. With the exposure of the internet, you don't NEED a label to get ahead in this industry. They'll advance you money, put you in debt, and you recoup at your negotiated rate (normally ~8points) that's 8% of whatever your EP or album is selling. You'd have to go gold or platinum just to make it out of the hole from your advance. Also, other things like option extensions, and merchandising make it a PITA for you to make money.

Long story short:

They use you, abuse you, then throw you away. DO NOT TRY TO GET SIGNED! They will fuck you!

end warning.

Also, feel free to PM me, and I'll explain the option system, as well as recoup points/merchandising etc. ;-)

-Joel

this doesn't have to be the case if you get a lawyer before you jump into it. Yes, they will try to take you for all you've got - but there is no reason that you have to remain a dumbass and simply let them walk all over you. That's what the law is for. If you know what you are doing, then it is on your side.

wow, that's actually pretty impressive...the whole sprinkler sound. very convincing.

At 7/27/08 01:21 PM, WizardSleeve wrote:

At 7/22/08 03:00 AM, joshhunsaker wrote:

At 7/21/08 11:19 AM, lustforpain wrote: No computer can really run multiple instances of the high-end plugins simultaneously.

i'm sure they can't.

Thats debateable... if you have a soundcard which does onboard processing.. 4gb of 800mhz+ ram lots of free hd space and a Quad core processor u shouldn't have many problems at all

the point was I was totally joking. I was responding to someone who obviously had never used a half decent computer before. And I think the whole point of "high-end" plug-ins, is that they normally are coded efficiently enough to run far below the crappy ones cpu-wise.

DavidOrr mentioned synths tend to be more cpu intensive than samplers...this is not necessarily true in any sense though. I suppose it could be, but in general there is no real 'rule' about such things...

It's all about the code, some software dev.'s know how to code things effeciently, and some don't - that's really all it comes down to. There's always a better way to do it.

Roland sx-700 for the win...

Mr. op - maybe you haven't realized that it's a lot harder to make a great flash than it is to make a great song. There are twice as many elements to configure (visual and auditory) and that means typically twice the decisions and at least twice the amount of time something of comparable quality...

At 7/26/08 10:46 AM, Koriigahn wrote: Buy Vengeance essential Club Sounds, it's a sound pack almost everyone on here uses for trance.

I'd be interested to hear where you picked up that statistic from.

actually,

I know a few guys with a mic closet worth more than your car who still use $40 dollar mics for many situations, but that's a different story. It has really very little to do with the "dough".

At 7/25/08 01:10 AM, jrhager84 wrote: By "went away", you meant the long-term effects haven't become overly noticeable, right? Any damage to your ears is permanent.....just not noticeable right away....

that's not completely true. Damage, yes. But there is a short term attenuation that physically happens within the structure of the ear by pulling the hammer, anvil, and stirrup away from the ear drum as a reaction to loud sounds to protect hearing. Generally, it tends to occur over relatively long periods of time (hours) the same way our eyes adjust to the dark by opening the pupils. The outer and middle ear are not what you have to worry about. It's just the hair cells on the inside of the cochlea that will determine whether or not someone is going deaf.