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At 2/7/09 02:59 AM, SolInvictus wrote:

At 2/7/09 02:56 AM, Jonowales wrote: No, you dont like those people, i have many athiest friends. Generalisations are never a good way to go.

angry faic is serious?

what?

At 2/6/09 08:26 PM, SolInvictus wrote:

At 2/6/09 07:35 PM, Brick-top wrote:

At 2/6/09 07:16 PM, SolInvictus wrote: no, but you are talking about a story as if it were something other than a story.

Some see it as an historical fact ;)

but no one likes those people >:(.

No, you dont like those people, i have many athiest friends. Generalisations are never a good way to go.

At 2/4/09 01:27 PM, pyromaniac616 wrote: exactly what the title asks

yes

so why is everything better now than before?

At 2/3/09 10:25 PM, reacon341 wrote: There aren't very many quakers around today and I doubt you will find any on NG. Good Luck...

mm porridge....

At 2/4/09 03:53 PM, Otto wrote: Listen to DroopyA, self-taught instrumentalists have the biggest egos and the worst habits. There's always someone to learn from.

hey im self taught and i dont have an ego...

At 2/4/09 03:50 PM, Dry-Ice wrote:

At 2/4/09 03:41 PM, DroopyA wrote:

By all means, don't just spend your time learning scales and chords, but don't neglect it either.

to an extent i agree, it depends though, some people music comes to more naturally than others, look at wes montgomery...

At 2/4/09 11:43 AM, JaY11 wrote: I've just finally picked up my (electric) guitar and try to learn it. What is a good way to start?

There are many good ways, get lessons from a professional guitarist, Learn the basics of music theory etc, learn songs you like and build up experience from that.
Lessons are good though, if your like me and just tend to learn things your own way it channels it all and since the lessons started my guitar playing has improved loads.

If you have an 'ear' for music you could just try and work out songs without music tab etc.

Learn in a way that you enjoy playing, people forget music is about enjoyment, yes theres lots of technical stuff e.t.c, just enjoy it, :) There is no BEST way to learn.

Why do dumb asses like you always appear and tell people to stop arguing? I mean, come on, this is a forum meant for arguing, and this is a topic meant for arguing about atheism. Can't you just accept that and get out? Why do you have to come and tell us to stop having fun?

fair point, i just get tired because it seems like the same old topics and debates and points keep coming up.

At 2/2/09 10:04 PM, aninjaman wrote:

At 2/2/09 10:00 PM, Bacchanalian wrote:

At 2/2/09 09:57 PM, aninjaman wrote: But if God creates morals and also creates us, why aren't we infused with these set morals?
Why aren't they in my genes?

Are you really refuting a clearly logical flaw with a presumption of God's will?

I don't know why God does things or doesn't do things.
I was just asking why doesn't God if God could.
If God wants us to follow a set of morals why doesn't God make it so we have to follow said morals?
Why does God give us the option to sin?

Why are we spending our valuable and all to short time on here talking about things we will never resolve?

Some people believe one thing, some people believe the other, accept that everyone will think differently, and have the grace to move on....

too simple?

At 10/14/08 04:20 PM, homor wrote:

At 10/14/08 01:47 PM, Jonowales wrote: pointless crappy thread

what kind of hunk of shit comment is that you brain dead idiot?

omfg u swore! im telling....

At 10/10/08 10:10 PM, homor wrote: stuff

and what if your auntie had some gonads? would it bother you that she would be your uncle?

pointless crappy thread

How come no one can just accept people are going to believe different things? No one knows who is right, Just accept we wont be able to explain everything and move on?

Or is that just too easy?

At 10/14/07 06:05 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 10/14/07 05:59 AM, capnyoaz wrote: Of course god exists.

There.

Is.

No.

Fucking.

Proof.

so you only believe what you can prove? thats rather sad

At 10/6/07 12:41 PM, Drakim wrote:

At 10/6/07 12:15 PM, Jonowales wrote:

At 10/6/07 11:49 AM, Drakim wrote:

At 10/6/07 10:07 AM, GenerousPortions wrote: things

So why do we need to label people?

Because otherwise people wouldn't know if they were to be nice or act like assholes in advance.

Or, we could actually get to know people before we make judgements, now im not saying im perfect, but i think the world would be a little better if people listened as much as they talk...

At 10/6/07 11:49 AM, Drakim wrote:

At 10/6/07 10:07 AM, GenerousPortions wrote: things

So why do we need to label people?

At 10/6/07 09:18 AM, SmilezRoyale wrote: Well Drakim number one is, in society it's common knowledge that moderates are the least common people to protest at all; it's [one of] the thing[s] that makes them moderate, the lack of 'caring' [which isn't always good] in an issue which gives them less of a need to assert themselfs as true.

But can you really judge how much someone cares about a subject by how much they protest?

At 10/5/07 05:24 PM, SolInvictus wrote:

At 10/5/07 10:07 AM, Jonowales wrote: and that proves...?

how different people will focus on certain things differently. maybe Jesus as described in the Bible was a composite of the many supposed messiahs of the time.

don't try and act like a smartass.

believe what you want to believe, and i will believe what i believe, end?

At 10/4/07 07:10 PM, WolvenBear wrote:

At 10/4/07 09:25 AM, Drakim wrote:

At 10/4/07 09:53 AM, Jonowales wrote: Who said anything about not fighting injustice and evil?

"As a Christian, it is not my job to tell others what they are doing wrong."
So, uh, him.

So the only way I can fight against injustice and evil is by having a go at people?
Or, I can fight it in pro active ways, giving food to someone who is starving, helping the homeless in the community, being there for someone that is hurting? No?

Or should i just go around telling people what to do?

At 10/4/07 10:56 PM, SolInvictus wrote:

At 10/4/07 09:14 PM, Zoraxe7 wrote: 2) The Romans certanly knew about him, its sort of hard to have sombody that doesnt exsist exicuted.

though they weren't to impressed by him as they focus very little on him.

and that proves...?

At 10/4/07 04:00 PM, Drakim wrote:

At 10/4/07 03:50 PM, Jonowales wrote:

At 10/4/07 03:00 PM, Brick-top wrote:
LOLlolz

Anywho back to work. my sister has overwhelmed me, does that mean I have to worship it?

Lots of people say they feel God or that they know he's there or that he's changed their lives in some. Or it could simply be that your perception of everything around has changed.

my perception has changed... whats your point?

and great argument, comparing a couch to God, yeah step aside Plato...

He did bring up a valid point. You can't brush it aside without a response to why it isn't a good argument. >>

Well you cant compare two things which are completely different... Its like trying to compare a wooden brick to askyscraper...

At 10/4/07 03:00 PM, Brick-top wrote:
LOLlolz

Anywho back to work. my sister has overwhelmed me, does that mean I have to worship it?

Lots of people say they feel God or that they know he's there or that he's changed their lives in some. Or it could simply be that your perception of everything around has changed.

my perception has changed... whats your point?

and great argument, comparing a couch to God, yeah step aside Plato...

At 10/4/07 11:54 AM, Drakim wrote:

At 10/4/07 09:56 AM, Jonowales wrote: But faith with evidence is not faith at all. If we could prove faith then it wouldn't be faith...

I still don't see why exactly we should not only belive in things without evidence, but even praise it as a good thing. It just doesn't make any sense.

For example, I could have faith in murdering people to sent them free. Would this be a good thing since it is faith?

When did i say we should only believe in things we cannot see? I was just saying, My personal faith in God and what he has done through christ I am not looking to make evidence for, I cant explain it, how do you explain God? All i can say is that i have felt SO loved since becoming a christian it has totally and completely overwhelmed me, and that has changed me so much it can only be God.

Well quite obviously that wouldnt be a good thing. But i dont think putting your faith into random things is a good idea anyway.

At this moment (will prob change tomorrow)

Robert Johnson
Nick Drake,
Loudon Wainwright III
Led Zeppelin

At 9/23/07 02:35 PM, pieandeggs wrote:

Because the Bible is a Christian theory, and the Big Bang is a mostly atheist one. Also, there's the fact that the Big Bang wasn't even conceived of until the last century.

Generalizations are always a good way to win a debate.... no?

But faith with evidence is not faith at all. If we could prove faith then it wouldn't be faith...

He's not being Christian. That's flat out idiocy. Avoiding confrontation for the sake of being nice is directly ignoring Christianity.

It is his duty as a Christian to fight injustice and evil (though we may all disagree on what that is). By taking the "It's not on me to judge bull, he is directly ignoring the tenets of his faith."

Who said anything about not fighting injustice and evil?

28One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, "Of all the commandments, which is the most important?"

29"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.[e] 30Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.'[f] 31The second is this: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'[g]There is no commandment greater than these."

At 10/2/07 08:05 PM, ProBo wrote:

At 10/2/07 07:20 AM, Drakim wrote:

At 10/2/07 06:43 AM, Jonowales wrote: As a christian, I am not told by Jesus to go and tell people what they are doing wrong, i am told to love others as i would want to be. Simple as.

Thank you for that. We need more christians like you.

Well, God didn't come down and die on the cross so we could all start telling others what theyre doing wrong did he... that's just how people have twisted the Gospels to fit their own agenda...

why does having a faith and science always have to be conflicting?