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The rift between Tony Blair and the British public over war against Iraq is today confirmed by an opinion poll which shows for the first time that a clear majority of British voters now oppose a military attack.
The survey, taken over the weekend, reveals that Mr Blair has sustained significant political damage from the debate over Iraq. His personal rating has dropped through the floor to minus 20 points, the lowest level since the petrol crisis two and a half years ago.
This month's Guardian/ICM poll also shows that at least one person from 1.25 million households in Britain went on Saturday's anti-war march in London, confirming estimates that between one million and two million people went on the march.
The poll shows it is the prime minister's personal standing rather than the Labour party which has suffered the wrath of anti-war voters. Labour's standing is down four points from 43% last month to 39% this month but the government still maintains a healthy eight-point lead over the Conservatives.
Opposition to the war has risen five points in the past month to 52%, with support for the war falling to 29%, the lowest level since the Guardian's tracker poll started last August.
Opposition is much stronger among women than men, with 59% of women saying they disapprove of a military attack on Iraq. Half of Conservative voters now clearly oppose the war but more Labour voters - 44% - still say they approve of military action than the 38% who are opposed.
Mr Blair faced further difficulties at the EU emergency summit in Brussels last night when Jacques Chirac insisted that France would veto a second UN resolution to explicitly authorise military action.
"There is no need for a second resolution today, which France would have no choice but to oppose," Mr Chirac said.
Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, appeared to be moving to the government's fallback position by repeating that though a new UN resolution was desirable, 1441 "gives us the authority we need".
Mr Blair, evidently irritated by France, Germany and others seeking to drag the process out, stuck to his guns, saying: "I think most people understand... if that [disarming] cannot be done peacefully, it must be done by force. That's why we require a timetable."
Earlier yesterday Mr Straw told the BBC that the government had to "take account of public opinion" and said that if a large part of the population opposes military action, it would be "very difficult indeed in those circumstances".
Later, his mood appeared to have hardened. "I don't think all the people on that demonstration - unquestionably the largest we've seen in my lifetime in the UK - would say that they represented alone British public opinion, but they certainly represented a very important element of it.
"But talking to people I know on that demonstration, some said to me that they were opposed to military action in any circumstances, others said they were worried about military action being taken prematurely but accept that military action may be necessary as a last resort - and that is the position of the British government."
In the French capital, meanwhile, a new poll showed that French public opinion had hardened against going to war. Eighty-seven percent were against military action, up from 77% six weeks ago, the Ipsos agency found in a poll for France 2 television conducted on Saturday.
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I just figured everyone deserved to laugh at Tony before he doomed his people to ricin gas and suicide bombers.
I rather enjoy the button that says "Pre-Emptive War is Terrorism". It sets down my views on the subject quite clearly, and comes in flashy red.
I'd just wait until Delta Force came through.
Well, since he's most likely going to be re-elected, we have a good four more years to tear at the guy for everything he does while conveniently ignoring some of the more 'eccentric' policies of my fellow dems. That's just the way it works!
If you're going to make an Anti-Iraq War thread, at least give it a bit more power than this. I mean, I'm a staunch advocate of the anti-war movement, yet I fail to feel driven by this piece of work.
If you're thinking North Korea, by the way, don't expect a ground or air strike any time soon.
We aren't moving nearly as fast with Korea due to the simple fact that they have nuclear weapons. We can't push them around. Bush doesn't know what to do now that he has someone that he can't pick on because he knows they can fight back. Nukes pointed at Seattle, even if they've never been flight tested, are enough of a bargaining point to arouse our caution. Funny how Iraq is going to get bombs for having no nukes, while Korea demands aid money to avoid bombing the United States. Sounds like blackmail to me.
That has got to be the most horrific picture I've ever seen in my life. I could have died happier without knowing that it existed.
It's the godless people like us that really have life down. Make the most out of it, because there's no coming back to make up for what you missed.
I have created this thread to serve a grand purpose: to give every human being on this planet who does not believe in the war hungry, oil lusting ways of George W. Bush a place to assemble. If you would like to voice your opinion graphically, please feel free to copy the badge I have made in my Signature Pic and add your Member Number. If you do make an Anti-George badge, make sure you post your number here so people don't get confused.
Enjoy Peace, My Friends.
Well, isn't that a jim-dandy little signature pic! I feel so accepted now!
::Marches off to fight the good fight::
Damn right! The UK and ....... like ..... um ..... Spain ... and ...... um Poland!
Good thing you have the Poles on your side!
The Poles? We've got this one in the bag! I'm surprised Hussein hasn't just stepped down at the thought of them coming through!
At 2/15/03 05:57 PM, swayside wrote: um...wow, how awful. your point?
His point is that the guy who got shot got away without PAYING for the gas! The thief! Lock him up!
Newgrounds is fine how it is. It's something relaxing when you're coming in from a country (at least here) that is gradually getting so many rules that it's like living in an orange-shaded Israel.
Ooook it's been a day and I'm slowly losing interest in it...
That's how it shouldn't have been!!!
And that's how it should not be!!!
America wants to attack Iraq, so they do. But if another country is preparing an attack, the US has to interfere and wants to prevent it!
That's how things are, and that's how thing shouldn't be.
At least some see it the right way.
At 2/17/03 04:51 PM, old_school_fat_strat wrote: the threat has always been here. we just know about it. go live on with your lives people, stop being such cowards.
WELL SAID! Move along, people, nothing more to see here. Close the topic, the silver bullet has hit the target.
I am English so automatically a lot of people would think I was a stuck up toff who has tea at 16:00 with the Queen.
TEA! HAHAHA! No, I'm just kidding, KIDDING! I'm friends with a lot of English people. I agree with what your saying, though.
Why Christians don't wake up out of the dream world and realize that when we die we just rot in the ground and become fertilizer is beyond me. The thought of going to a nice place forever is good for calming fears of death, but come on, grow up.
Grand. Now where can I get one of them nifty badges of membership?
At 2/15/03 07:11 PM, redneckking wrote: I disagree with you about most Americans thinking they are better than everyone else but the people in charge and some other important people aredoing stupid things doesn't mean we are all like that. Most people from other counties go to the places where tourism is big and the people who live around those areas are rude to everyone.
Places with big tourism is where you can even find Americans being rude to Americans. I think we need to hold hands across the world. Someone would sneak in a knife or something, though. THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!
You don't count because you're Canadian.
As you may have noticed the political forum is not the most active place on NG. I have not been advertizing nor have I been spaming other forums to gain notoriety. I look more for quality of those who would be interested in joining rather than boast an inflated number. Of course if numbers mater to you then I suppose you missed the point of this group.
Like I said, sign me up!
Wow, this is the least productive thread I've ever seen in my entire existance on Newgrounds. I love it.
At 2/16/03 08:34 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: This revelation shakes my world to it's core beliefs.
That he could use words like "stupid", the likes of which not heard since second grade, truly shows us how very mad he is.
Yes. I agree. Now, if he would have said "Stupid doo-doo head" we would be dropping the first hydrogen bombs right on his cave.
Blair is a puppet for the United States with his own little agenda. His government is slowly edging away from him so they can minimize the collateral damage. Oh well.
Yeah. We tell too much about what we're going to do before we do it. Lucky we didn't have that sort of 24 hour news coverage the night before Normandy
