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Yeah, Greedom! Get movin'! =)

And what is up with you people and the arm breakings? Geez... I'm certainly never taking over this collab. Everyone who's led it has broken limbs.

So Twinsen, or Orb, (what do you want called?) I had an idea.
If you did want to delay the due date one final time (personally I should be ready for this Friday though) then that would put us right in the neighborhood of January 19th, 2006. You know what that is, right? The one year anniversary of the "Shades of" series!
So what do you think? Wouldn't it be cool to have Shades of Purple debut in the portal exactly a year after Shades of Green?

Just a thought. Back to work for me.

Ooo, interesting shot there, jorncar. I'm very curious as to see what it's all about.

I worked late into the night and now have about a minute and a half (still without sound) of the cartoon I'm doing. I'm not sure how funny it will be compared to others I've done. Some of the humor is less "laugh out loud" funny, but hopefully people will still like it.

Looks like my entry may also come in at just about 2 minutes. =)

Wow, that looks increddible, myname!
Man, the shading is far beyond anything I think I could ever do... Very cool.
So you're at 5 seconds, huh? How long are you shooting for the whole thing to be? I didn't know you did the music for your SoG one. I wish I had your musical talent.

I just hit the 50 second mark on mine, but so far it has no sound. So there's still a long way to go. Now I'm not sure what to do, though, because I can either end mine in another 10 seconds, or go on for another probably 40 and finish the original idea I had. Basically it will most likely boil down to "Do I have enough time to finish?"
=)

Man! I am SO excited about this collab again!
My toon is coming along nicely and it seems like everytime I make a "Shades of" entry it hits me just how much I've improved at animation since the last one. This cartoon is shaping up to be my best yet! Well, one of my best. Maybe.
It should be all done by this Friday. I'll be working all this week on it.

ANYWAY, I promised a preview so here's a peak:

Ohhhhh okay. I think I get it now. I went back and read some posts I missed.

So TwinsenDude who is now -orb- has taken over the Shades of Purple lead from mynamewontfitin, and he is on holiday so the new due date is 1 week from now.

Is that right?

That would be good since I'm still working on mine. And it seems like a few other people are also still working. I'd post a preview of what I'm doing but I'm not at my computer at the moment, so it will have to wait. But soon I'll try and at least post an image.
Good luck to everyone (like me) still working on their toons!
Oh yeah, and HAPPY NEW YEAR to the whole "Shades Of" bunch!

Um, yeah, so no one ever replied... Huh...

Okay so here's my story:
I'm not done. Yeah, I know I've known about this for several months, but I never really figured out the final due date and the holidays took up a lot of my time.

So any chance of an extention? Otherwise my cartoon will probably be very short with little sound... Blah.
PLEASE SOMEONE RESPOND! DON'T MAKE ME E-MAIL YOU ALL SEPERATELY! =)

Hey everyone!

Long time no see! Sorry I haven't been around here much, I'm working on the debut of my second website (Cubetoons.com!) and busy with FredtheMonkey.com things as well.

But I really would still like to contribute to the SoP collab here! I'm working on an all new cartoon now. Much different than my original idea, and I just hope I can finish in time! It will probably be about 1 minute long or so.

The deadline is still December 31st? Yes?
Or was it moved back a bit?
Anyway, whoever knows the answer, let me know!
Good luck everyone!
(Remember, it's never to late to join as long as you meet the deadline!)

At 11/8/05 05:12 PM, Greedom wrote:

At 11/8/05 04:10 PM, TwinsenDude wrote: The playing field is level, it's way harder to make a 3d animation in maya than it is a 2d animation in flash.

I agree, 3d animation is way under-rated here on Newgrounds, I envy 3d artists- like Twinsen or stem, sometimes their talent goes un-noticed.

I'm not saying 3D isn't hard (I know it is, I've tried) or that it isn't worthwhile or anything like that. I was merely stating that for those people who DON'T work in 3D, it isn't very fair to compare what they do to stuff done in Maya or something, because Flash just can't do that. 3D is SO impressive, that it might take away votes from a deserving Flash animation that could NEVER be as impressive as what you did in 3D because such a thing is impossible (the 3D I mean) in Flash. You see?

Anyway, there are clay and video presentations on NGs a lot too, so it isn't just about Flash anymore I guess.

At 11/4/05 05:00 PM, TwinsenDude wrote:

At 11/2/05 11:42 PM, Bobly wrote: What was flash used for in The Future though? :)
I mean its great and all, but its not really flash :)

who cares?

Well for the monthly voting thing it's really about Flash animation, not other types. It's kind of difficult for Flash animation to compare with what you did. So there needs to be a level playing field. Anyway, it's really nice 3D.

So I've got good news and bad news.
The bad news is that I've decided to take my idea for Shades of Purple and turn it into a full-color animated short. It got too big with a very large script and I don't want to take up half of the allotted file size space for the whole collab submission. Also in the bad news department is that I now have no idea what I'm going to do for this collab.
On the good side, I'm still in and plan to do SOMETHING. But it probably won't be as high-level as my original idea. (Which I guess should have gone under "Bad news" but oh well.)

At 10/27/05 12:41 AM, Astropuff wrote: All my action scripting knowledge is gained through cut&paste brainwork from existing crap I have learned. So if it doesnt work, my bad!

In main timeline of first scene-
var showtext:Boolean;

On the NO_SUBTITLES button
on(release){
showtext = false;
}

At the start of all scenes in main-timeline-
if(showtext == false){
subtitles._visible = false;
}

Thanks, that works well! I put it to good use in the cartoon at
Blarg! A Fred Halloween

PROBLEM:

My menu (including the "Do you want Subtitles" button) is in the first scene with the preloader. But the subtitles and main movie are in other scenes. How do I get the button to react to the objects (subtitles) in the other scenes?

I tried to just use the above code and code from the other links, but it isn't working.
Any further suggestions? Thanks.

Thanks for the help everybody. I'm going to try putting in On/Off Subtitles in my Halloween cartoon now. I haven't gotten a chance to try it yet, I've just been forcing everyone to have subtitles on the latest toons. =)

At 10/24/05 06:13 PM, Bobly wrote: And heh, 2 months is quite long for a short to be part of a collab, remembering its for 5 artists, thats 1mb/artist, you should be able to get something decent done in 2 months...

Yep, plenty of time.
Regarding the 5 Artist/1MB thing, I really think we should include more if there are multiple quality entries. I loved how there were runner-ups in the Shades of Red and such, and Shades of Green had several pages of people's work! I'm not saying it should be that many, but seems like limiting it to just 5 is too low if there are some other really nice entries done that don't get the highest votes.
Though I guess as everyone makes bigger and better things, the file space quickly disappears...

At 10/23/05 09:13 PM, Xionic_Demon wrote:

At 10/23/05 07:33 PM, EviLudy wrote: Eventually, Someday, I am actually going to find out in time and have the time to join a 5 shades of collab.

sorry to let u down, but mynamewontfitin says that this one will be the last ='(

First of all, he said it MIGHT be the last one.
Second of all, HE LIES!!! DON'T LISTEN! IT CANNOT BE TRUE! TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE LIIIIIEEEEESSSSS!!!

Please?

I dunno, I guess I'll be pretty busy come December (with holidays and all) but if I can't get the cartoon done in TWO MONTHS then there's something seriously wrong and delaying to January won't help much. So I vote, sure, go ahead and make it mid-December, but please give us an exact date ASAP. Only because I know I'll be motivated differently if Mid-december = December 10th, vs. if it = December 20th, you know?

Oh and Snare, don't stop animating! It looks like you've got a real knack for it! Like Xion said, you just need some inspiration. Seems a shame to just give it up. You can take a break, but why not keep your eyes peeled for something you might want to put into a cartoon? You never know when a great idea will pop up! Good luck!

At 10/18/05 05:13 PM, Xionic_Demon wrote: well i finished the intro for the purp flash and here it is =O! http://media.putfile.com/purpxion257

Lookin' good! Great really.
One thing I might suggest. If you keep the subtitles, it would probably add a bit more drama if you broke up at least the first line. Do it in smaller chunks, you know what I mean?
"My name is..."
then "I'm a ninja..."
then a pause and "At least I used to be..."
It adds suspense which seems to be the direction your heading. So far it's looking awesome. I'd better get to work if I'm going to keep up! =)
Good luck!

At 10/17/05 10:15 PM, Xionic_Demon wrote: well i finally restarted my movie, aaaaaand, i need a VA for some lines for xion, if there is any male VA reading this, please say so xD

Well what does he sound like?
I need to go restart my movie too, but... sigh, I hate to waste so much work! Oh well, it must be done.

At 10/17/05 12:02 PM, MephistonX wrote: ive added some more to my animation - like some lil movie clips here and there -- i think it runs at the right speed on my crappy computer so if you have a really class computer might be 2 quick
Update!

and i know the dude thats walking is crap - i just did that quickly -- im gona redo that eventually

Nice! It's certainly coming along well. I was going to say "Work on the walking guy" but I see you beat me to it. =)
I think the music is very appropriate, and overall it is looking good. One thing you might want to try is adding some more shadows while the scene is getting darker, because it looks right now like the same image over and over with a different colored sky. If the buildings got a bit darker too I think it would express the reason for the pupil getting so large better, know what I mean? Anyway, keep at it!

On an unrelated topic, I am very excited to have "Happy Three Years, Fred!" be my very first "Front Page, Daily First" solo entry. I just wanted to share that with someone since my friends and family don't really know Newgrounds, and so have no idea why I'm so happy about these awards. =)

Hey Bobly-

Sorry to hear about the computer issues. I hate when stuff like that happens. Any chance of recovering the data? Is it backed up?
Well I hope it goes okay for you, getting the system back to working condition and all.

Anyway, there's not been another date set yet for the deadline, but it's looking like late December or early January. So there's plenty of time left. Good luck!
(For anyone who didn't catch what's been going on, Mynamewontfitin, who puts this collab together, broke his arm and had to push the due date back until he could animate again.)

So how are everyone's entries going? Coming along?
I unfortunately am having issues with mine. I can't seem to decide on an art style. I don't like the one I picked, but don't know how to do much else. So I'm stuck. Also my setup scene is slow and ugly. I want to make it faster paced, but there's nothing to cut or speed up. Sigh. Ah yes, and my title logo is hideous as well, but I spent so long on it that it pains me to delete the darn thing and start over.

Anyways, good luck to everyone else!

At 10/7/05 06:09 PM, MephistonX wrote: if added a flash in between each blink, made the time that they eye is open between each blink longer too purple eye version 2

It's a start! Here's my thought on the flash (of light).
The human eye is round, not flat. A gradient fill bar works very well for flashes when the object is flat, but round objects tend to need a little more work. Here, go to my site at FredtheMonkey.com and roll your mouse over the "Latest Update" button in the bottom corner. Do you see what I mean? If you took so much time to animate the eye Fbf, I think it would be worth the extra effort to Fbf a rounded flash for the eye. Trust me, it will look great. (It already looks great, I just mean the flash will look better.) If you need more help with how to do an effect like that, let me know.

At 10/7/05 07:18 PM, Xionic_Demon wrote: mmmh...i would animate other idea but...dont know, i already got some advance in the actual one, but as some people may say, the whole idea sucks hard mmmmh...

what do u people think? try with a so-so more creative plot or stick with the A.I. war flash?

I vote more creative plot. But heck, don't make it so-so! You've got plenty of time to put as much polish on it as you can and turn out something great. But yeah, I think the collab as a whole would be more interesting if they aren't all "Robots vs. Humans: The Future is Dark" toons. (I'm not saying they will be, but people like to watch new ideas that make them say "Hey I never would have thought of that! Cool!")
Let us know what you decide! (Or you can make it a surprise =P )

At 10/7/05 04:13 PM, 2A-Squared wrote:

At 10/7/05 03:48 PM, -snare- wrote: Your a really helpful person, it's great the stuff that you post.

Yeah, he is, I like him :)

Aw, well, thanks guys. That makes it all worth it. =)
Seems to me that it's more rewarding to help people along, especially with things like Flash and animation. You give a little input, maybe some things you've learned along the way, and your reward is that you get to watch an even better end product after all is said and done, plus be helpful to someone. (And the nice words are always cool too.)

At 10/7/05 04:36 PM, MephistonX wrote: this took me a few hours to make - its not that good, not enough as for a seperate piece for the colab but if there are any good action scripters they could turn it into a preloader or somthing ?

purple eye

the basic idea is that the human eye (even though its purple) is slowly mutating over time - look at the pupil

Wow, that's pretty sweet! It may be a little short at the moment, but if you can pull that off in a few hours, just think what you could do with two months! So I wouldn't give up. I bet if you check the Audio Portal and find some deep melody (I'm thinking slow and sweet maybe), then add in some fades with text, like it was an animated poem, heck it could stand alone for sure! Keep at it! (Of course, if you wanted to, it would still make an awesome preloader too.)
You could really go farther with this idea. Imagine images appearing and animatingin the pupil in between blinks. Just a thought!

At 10/7/05 02:30 PM, TwinsenDude wrote: If i can finish my animation on time (I better), I just know I'll beat zekey this time... unless people don't vote for mine cause mine is 3d and "unfair." Bastards... I hate when people do that.

Okay, just don't expect to win first prize BECAUSE it's 3D. The graphics might rock with their beautiful extra dimention, but if the animation isn't top quality, people vote elsewhere. Remember Shades of Red? =)
PS. I'm not picking a fight, so don't yell at me...

At 10/7/05 03:05 PM, -snare- wrote: Well I couldn't think of nothing so I did the intro first, so thats my reason, but I know what you mean and I really wanna get on with animating but I can't think of nothing >=(

Here's a tip. Or actually, a few.
One thing that helps me is outside opinions. Talk to your family or friends. Mention the collab and the theme being Future. Suddenly they might say something that sparks you on a whole story that's better than you could have come up with on your own. Some of my best ideas come from things my friends say.

Another possibility is to grab a thesaurus. Not the crappy online kind, mind you, the good old fashion book with paper and words. Check out "Future" there, or maybe something you associate with Future. That can be a big help. You can sometimes follow one synonym to another to another and all of a sudden you've got a great idea.

Just a few thoughts, good luck.

At 10/6/05 05:29 PM, 2A-Squared wrote: So I'm not considered a major contendor here eh? Ah, go figure, but I aim to prove everyone wrong. As for an update? Completely finished my little character, as well as editing my audio for the project. Here's something for you to look at. Maybe I'll share the audio sometime later.

Eh, don't feel bad about not getting mentioned for "co-author shoe-ins." It's really way too early to tell anything. Not only that, but ZekeySpaceyLizard has come in with the most votes, what, every time now? And he's not even on that list!
It's probably due to the fact that he (me too) doesn't usually show much in the way of previews. Then after the due date has passed, BAM, there's an amazing animation you never saw before. He certainly can't be overlooked... One day though, one day I'll defeat him... =)

Your character is still lookin' good! Can't wait to see what it ends up being... (It IS a space-bug with a gas mask, right? You can tell me!)

Mine is going slowly, but I guess that's okay since the due date has been pushed back most likely a month. Plenty of time... (I think I've said that every time...)
Continued good luck everyone!

At 10/5/05 04:53 PM, Greedom wrote: As a matter of fact, I say give us 5 Shades of Orange! then Yellow! and then finish it off with Black, for symbolic reasons of course! :)

oh, heres a screenshot of some what I have so far, if anyone's intrested...

Looks great! I really like the style of it, and that character looks super cool. Can't wait to see the whole thing (and find out what he's jabbing with that needle, um, thing... what is that?) I think I need to spend the next few months straight on my artwork if I've got any shot at co-author this time! Humor don't fail me now...

At 10/5/05 01:05 PM, mynamewontfitin wrote: hey everyone... I was just wondering if anyone would mind me pushing the deadline back to late december or early january. This would give me close to a month to animate one cuz i dont get my cast off until late november. This would also give all of you more time to work on urs and make them look nicer.
-let me know

Yes, on one condition: You don't make this the last 5 Shades collab! =)
Everyone wants at LEAST orange next year!
Seriously though, sure man, go ahead. I mean, I know I'd love the extra time! Three whole months? Heck, I might be able to churn out something TV quality by then! Woo.
The important thing is you get better. Don't push youself, because it would be dumb to hurt yourself further and delay the healing. Push back the due date as much as you need. And then when it's all said and done, make Shades of Orange and Yellow. =P

At 10/3/05 06:43 AM, TwinsenDude wrote: Smooth Shading is when you have multiple polygons of a single object of something you want to be smooth, rather than seeing all the different polygons, so you manipulate the normals of the geometry so that the computer makes it look smooth even though it's all made with polygons.

Ah, I see. Cool, thanks for explaining it to me. Like I said, I've not gotten deep enough into the program to know if it has anything like that yet. Heck, I still haven't figured out how to animate very much!

At 10/3/05 06:26 AM, Supi wrote: I so wanted to participate in this collab,but after finishing the first scene (duration 6.6 seconds - file size 190 kb) ,I don't think I can make my idea into a movie in less than 10 megs...So, damn...I'm out :)

Well that looks pretty cool, so you should keep at it even if you don't feel like you can get it into a normal size. I'm sure it would still be a great looking cartoon. Good luck.

At 10/3/05 12:37 AM, -IceFire- wrote:

At 10/2/05 11:31 PM, Space_Chicken wrote: Good to know that in a collab full of robots, fights, and destruction there's still room for a cute little girl...

Bit simple.. Maybe add some more detail?
I hope there's room for a rabbit wearing a spacesuit!? ^.^

no, seriously..

Yeah, I like to keep my art on the simpler side. Clean lines and not a lot of details. I guess that's just my style or something. But thanks for the idea. Maybe I'll go in and add a few little subtle things that don't look drastic but still add to the character. Of course, you'll probably see the back of her head more than anything else, so I don't want to spend TOO much time on her face or anything! =)
And I'm sure there's always room for a spacesuit wearing bunny!
Any other suggestions? I'll try to post some more when I get a little further into the toon.

At 10/2/05 11:19 PM, mynamewontfitin wrote:
thank u very much. heres proof lol. i also got huge cuts on my other arm and stomach. i was pullin a stunt on my bike that requires u to take ur hands off when i hit a sewer (don't laugh lol) and flew off my bike and slid 10 feet. lol. it sucked.

Suck muffins! Man, I'm sorry to hear that. Hope you feel better soon. And on the bright side, when it heals it will be even stronger for your next crazy stunt.

On a lighter note, here's a little preview of my main character for SoP. Still working on it, but it's a start I guess. Let me know what you guys think and also what I can do to improve it. Good to know that in a collab full of robots, fights, and destruction there's still room for a cute little girl...
OR IS THAT ALL SHE IS?!?! (Bwah ha ha ha...)

At 10/2/05 08:17 PM, -IceFire- wrote: I put in an entire day of work with swift, and found, that I'm not for 3D :P
It's too complicated, and the lack of use for the mouse is annoying. [For adjusting depth and so-on, you have to use the figures, instead of being able to adjust with your mouse]
^.^

Yeah, it's not for everyone I guess. But I'm determined. Also you can adjust depth with the mouse: You use the right mouse button. Click, hold, and drag to move in the 3rd dimension! Lousy third dimension... Why can't everything just be nice and flat...

At 10/2/05 10:38 PM, Hamslice wrote: =/ lots of good animators...hopes i gets in ^_^

Just keep working hard at it! The more time you put into it the better your chances. I just wish I would take my own advice. =)

At 10/2/05 09:32 PM, TwinsenDude wrote: in maya you use themouse a lot... i don't like swift much.

Rofl can swift do smoothshading? I've never seen a movie/object made with swift with smooth shading.

Sorry, I'm too new at this to know what smooth shading is! But if I find it I'll let you know.

At 10/2/05 08:44 PM, 2A-Squared wrote: Ok.. so I drew this... but I don't know what it is... Kind a robot thing I'm pretty sure, but is it the side view, front view.. I dunno, help would be great.

It's a side view of an alien-bug wearing a gas-mask-like-device. See, the star is his eye and the back lighter part is a set of folded wings. By the way, it looks awsome. How did you get the lines so nice and smooth? Very nice. Shading looks sweet too. Good luck deciding what it is!

At 10/2/05 06:00 PM, Xionic_Demon wrote: sorry for the dbl post but i remembered what i wanted to ask,
can we use grays? since some people is using that color o_o, well merely alphaed white

You CAN, by alpha-ing black, but why? I mean, first that would totally make the movie run slower on not-so-perfect machines, and second- doesn't that defeat the whole 5 Shades purpose? Come on! You can do it with just the purple! But if not, at least you know how to get gray.

Also Twinsen, Swift can do transparent, and bitmaps, and reflections. At least, from what I've learned so far. I don't think it's half bad for 3D if you know how to use it. I however, most certainly do not know how. Not yet anyway =)